Re: Re: moldy fruit -Jeanine

[Guest guest]

Wow, literally seconds after I hit the send button on my post and prior to

my post showing up, Carl's post appeared with almost the same thing. This

tells me at least we are all on the same track even if it does not appear to be

that way. I wish only the best for the both of you and all that suffer from

this plaque of our society, called toxic mold.

In a message dated 7/20/2006 5:47:12 PM Central Standard Time,

grimes@... writes:

Barb and Jeanine,

I whole heartedly agree with you: " It is true though, if you notice

things you put on the counter seem to mold faster than they USED to,

you may want to check your house to see if moisture/mold/you may wa

problems are developing. It's another sign that should not be

ignored, particularly by people with health problems like us. "

Jeanine, your details have clarified much for me and I apologize if I

in any way offended or disturbed you. That was not my intention. Your

statements were true but some of the interpretations of what you said

were becoming misdirected. That's was I was " dissecting,were becoming

it. You have given so much to this group in spite of your difficult

struggles. Much of your research has been invaluable to me. A couple

of them last winter I used to justify changes in some of the

standards I work on. Please keep posting!

Carl Grimes

Healthy Habitats LLC

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[Guest guest]

Jeanine,

I totally understand your point and agree. I

think people are misunderstanding your simple

statement. Jeanine and I both know that fruit

going moldy is not an indication that there is an

indoor mold problem. I know also and many people

do too who are familiar with organic products

that they go bad quicker because we know they

were not sprayed with pesticides. That's why we

buy them and we know other products are sprayed

with pesticide precisely to deter spoiling, so it

is natural then to realize unsprayed things will

spoil faster. I would say close to 90% of people

here if not more understand these things. What

Jeanine said and I am in agreement, is that if

your house is moldier, fruit will go bad on the

counter faster. I have observed it and so has

she. I've discussed this with others who have

remarked that since they cleaned up their house

they have noticed they can keep produce much

longer in house before it goes bad. It's a

simple truth, that as kids might say, well

duhhhhh, of course! If house is moldier, things

will get moldier faster. Jeanine is just saying

you may not think of it even though it is

obvious, so she is stating the obvious, which

sometimes we ignore. It is true though, if you

notice things you put on the counter seem to mold

faster than they USED to, you may want to check

your house to see if moisture/mold/or mildew

problems are developing. It's another sign that

should not be ignored, particularly by people

with health problems like us.

--- who <jeaninem660@...> wrote:

> all I was trying to state is that if your

> aware of your invironment

> and you

[Guest guest]

Jeanine, your post was fine but communication is

sometimes tricky, as words can be taken many

different ways and people don't always know 'who'

(lol) they are talking to, what kind of

experience you've had, and what your knowledge

is, with mold and life in general. I hope you

feel better. I know I lived in moldy house for

ten years without bothering me. After I got

sick, I cleaned the house up to point that people

doing air tests were impressed. None the less if

air quality dips a little here from any cause,

I'm on the sofa again, like you. Can't take even

a little poor air quality now.

--- who <jeaninem660@...> wrote:

>Thanks Barb, and I will try to watch what I

> post, or not post when

> I'm suffering from a bad hit. this hit scared

> me bad. my legs went

> tottally numb and the felling and support went

> out of them

[Guest guest]

Barb and Jeanine,

I whole heartedly agree with you: " It is true though, if you notice

things you put on the counter seem to mold faster than they USED to,

you may want to check your house to see if moisture/mold/or mildew

problems are developing. It's another sign that should not be

ignored, particularly by people with health problems like us. "

Jeanine, your details have clarified much for me and I apologize if I

in any way offended or disturbed you. That was not my intention. Your

statements were true but some of the interpretations of what you said

were becoming misdirected. That's was I was " dissecting, " as you put

it. You have given so much to this group in spite of your difficult

struggles. Much of your research has been invaluable to me. A couple

of them last winter I used to justify changes in some of the

standards I work on. Please keep posting!

Carl Grimes

Healthy Habitats LLC

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> Thanks Barb, and I will try to watch what I post, or not post when

> I'm suffering from a bad hit. this hit scared me bad. my legs went

> tottally numb and the felling and support went out of them, my heart

> was beating very fast and my blood was rushing in my viens,my body

> went numb. my arms became very heavy and my energy was zapped from me.

> luckily some one was there to help me into my house. i had no use of

> my legs for quite some time and the firbromyalgia type pain set in.

> after a while, I could walk a little but it was very wobbly. and my

> legs had spasm type ackes in the muscles half of the night and burned.

> this was the night before last on my front steps, what I smelt was my

> neighbors drier sheets from her drier. yesterday my legs still acked

> and I layed around all day with no energy and not able to think well

> enough to do much of anything constructive,the ran over by a truck

> syndrome. today is a little better.but a bad hit is scary and

> sometimes you wonder if your going to servive it. for those of you

> that are not chemical sensative or have mcs or tilt. you need to

> consider the fact that its looking like many end up with it and if

> your in a moldy invironment and its makeing you sick, I just want you

> to know that nothing you have to leave is worth more than takeing a

> chance of ending up with this illness. it tottally controls your life,

> I think theres different levels of severity, but have also read that

> it continues to get worse with each hit, and even with practiceing

> advoidence its hard to avoid a hit if you try to have a life at all.

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