Re: Kitchen experiments : avoiding streptococcus thermophilus

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Dear Sharon (and Geir),

I read that Jordan Rubin has concerns about Strep Therm. I read his

book " Patient Heal Thyself "

http://www.crohns.net/page/C/PROD/Garden_Of_Life/GAN6500

and was impressed with how he healed his life-threatening irritable

bowel. I didn't realise at first that he is the maker of Primal

Defence. Jordan mentions that he has concerns about streptococcus

thermophilus and I wondered if this was perhaps something that had

aggravated Eddie - becuase we had had a very difficult time with him

tolerating probiotics and in fact got started with Boulardii.

We now use Primal Defence a lot (but are rotating) - it really really

suits Eddie. It seems that he gets on better with probios without

it. I feel sure enough to go to the trouble of avoiding it - but I

couldn't be totally sure (if you know what I mean) that this is a

problem for him.

Eddie does have a persistent 4+ Strep imbalance his intestine that we

have been completely unable to move. I am hoping that I can help

with this as I explore Yasko. I did wonder if Strep Therm and

intestinal strep were related - I think I will post a question about

it.

Sharon - I love your idea of the coconut yoghurt!

With best wishes,

Sandy

> >

> > Dear all,

> >

> > Here are some notes on our kitchen experiments with probios and

> > yoghurts.

> >

> > We have been experimenting for quite a long while with making our

> own

> > goat's milk yoghurt. We choose to use multi-strain probios and

> avoid

> > the strep. therm. strain. But otherwise we are pretty much SCD.

> >

> > We use a Lakeland yoghurt maker and do 24-30 hour yoghurts

(longer

> > times in colder months).

> >

> > Custom probios make a really lovely thick cream yog.

> >

> > We currently use 1 Culturelle and 2 Custom per 1 litre of goat

milk

> > and it is very nice indeed (once you get a taste for the tang of

> real

> > yoghurt).

> >

> > Kirkman's inulin free is also OK (but this contains Strep. Therm).

> >

> > We now rotate probios and use the above yoghurt and lots of

Primal

> > Defence (which we find really effective) and have just started

> > Metabolics Comobocillus (another multi-strain without strep

therm)

> > and Metabolics L. Salivarius which we mix with custom probois.

> >

> > What REALLY DOES NOT MAKE a good yoghurt is Primal Defence!! (We

> had

> > to try it) It contains S. Boulardii (the good yeast). And - we

> now

> > know - yeast is NOT good at all in a yoghurt maker!! What you get

> > after 24 hours in the yoghurt maker is a very pungent kitchen and

a

> > really oogey pot of cheesey and watery gloop than needs a good

wash

> > down the drain outside!

> >

> > However, S. Boulardii is pretty good at fighting (bad) yeast - so

> we

> > haven't given up experimenting. We are wondering if we can use

it

> in

> > baking as a yeast alternative (and Tim is wondering about beer I

> > think).

> >

> > We are also a few months into goat milk kefir which mixes well

with

> > pear puree. And have just made a young coconut kefir that seems

> > pretty nice ! (but we have yet to see if Eddie can tolerate it).

> >

> > Would love to hear any suggestions about other good probios (that

> > don't contain Strep Therm or Egg or cornstarch) OR about any

> cooking

> > experience with Boulardii.

> >

> > Best wishes,

> > Sandy

> >

>