Re: , please write a book.

[Guest guest]

Haley <myhaze@...> wrote:

>

> When you and Mold-Warrior Kitty have the time and energy to do it,

we'd all benefit as well as be able to remunerate you for your pearls

of wisdom through purchasing your tome. None of the rest of us are as

well-trained to be aware of biotoxin insults as you two are. Today,

I see I'd like to learn more from you about do it yourself mytoxin

testing...

> ~Haley

What I did seems absolutely crazy to people.

Even knowing that I was going to suffer for doing this, I took a

sample of mold out to the desert and did proximity experiments.

The hardest thing about this is not learning to perceive exposures.

It is learning to accept that certain subtle sensations are harbingers

of disaster - and to bring yourself to act in accordance with the

gravity of those indicators by understanding the consequences.

-

[Guest guest]

sorry erik, but i think your getting a little carried away with your

self. when you detect mycotoxins do you have different reacts based

on the type of mycotoxin?

how on earth do you manage to hold down a job because many here

cannot find a place to work that wont make them ill. were you only

exposed to one type of mold/mycotoxin? and only have a effect only to

that type?

please tell us some facts behind your exposure and how you know so

much as to be able to tell someone how they are or are not

precieveing their symptoms and what they smell and dont smell. how

they should be affected or not affected. I take it if you go hiking,

you dont have asthma,chronic sinusitis or allergys or food allergys,

so you just have MCS that still allows you to work. I dont think that

quailifies you to be a expert. I garentee you theres a lot more to

this illness when you have been exposed to several different

molds/mycotoxins that cause asthma problems, stomach problems,

allergys, sinus problems, etc. if you were exposed to T-myco's that

burnt your nose for a period of time do you have chronic

sinusitis/rhinositis?

if you have been exposed to aflatoxins do you have lung problems?

ochratoxins, vision problems? you never talk about anything like

this, only the same thing over and over again. are you suffering from

memory problems? consentration problems? acting like you know it all

does not mean you do. none of us have all the answers or we wouldn't

be here. all you do is quote from mold warriors. over and over again

than switch back to your veiws which we all dont agree with. you dont

even agree with all of shoemakers views, seeing your own as gospel.

theres things I agree with you on, but your detecting mycotoxins is

not one of

them.

> >

> > When you and Mold-Warrior Kitty have the time and energy to do

it,

> we'd all benefit as well as be able to remunerate you for your

pearls

> of wisdom through purchasing your tome. None of the rest of us are

as

> well-trained to be aware of biotoxin insults as you two are.

Today,

> I see I'd like to learn more from you about do it yourself mytoxin

> testing...

> > ~Haley

>

> What I did seems absolutely crazy to people.

> Even knowing that I was going to suffer for doing this, I took a

> sample of mold out to the desert and did proximity experiments.

>

> The hardest thing about this is not learning to perceive exposures.

> It is learning to accept that certain subtle sensations are

harbingers

> of disaster - and to bring yourself to act in accordance with the

> gravity of those indicators by understanding the consequences.

> -

>

[Guest guest]

Who,

Some very good points here. I am curious to your reference to aflatoxins. I am

having major problems coughing up some awful looking things and have not read or

heard much as far as the lungs go. I read most of the links you put out and have

seen the lung biopsy thing but outside of that I seem to be left hanging as far

as information on this subject. When you have a chance, if you have some

explanations you can jot down I would be greatful. Good post.

Thanks,

Chris...

who <jeaninem660@...> wrote:

sorry erik, but i think your getting a little carried away with your

self. when you detect mycotoxins do you have different reacts based

on the type of mycotoxin?

how on earth do you manage to hold down a job because many here

cannot find a place to work that wont make them ill. were you only

exposed to one type of mold/mycotoxin? and only have a effect only to

that type?

please tell us some facts behind your exposure and how you know so

much as to be able to tell someone how they are or are not

precieveing their symptoms and what they smell and dont smell. how

they should be affected or not affected. I take it if you go hiking,

you dont have asthma,chronic sinusitis or allergys or food allergys,

so you just have MCS that still allows you to work. I dont think that

quailifies you to be a expert. I garentee you theres a lot more to

this illness when you have been exposed to several different

molds/mycotoxins that cause asthma problems, stomach problems,

allergys, sinus problems, etc. if you were exposed to T-myco's that

burnt your nose for a period of time do you have chronic

sinusitis/rhinositis?

if you have been exposed to aflatoxins do you have lung problems?

ochratoxins, vision problems? you never talk about anything like

this, only the same thing over and over again. are you suffering from

memory problems? consentration problems? acting like you know it all

does not mean you do. none of us have all the answers or we wouldn't

be here. all you do is quote from mold warriors. over and over again

than switch back to your veiws which we all dont agree with. you dont

even agree with all of shoemakers views, seeing your own as gospel.

theres things I agree with you on, but your detecting mycotoxins is

not one of

them.

> >

> > When you and Mold-Warrior Kitty have the time and energy to do

it,

> we'd all benefit as well as be able to remunerate you for your

pearls

> of wisdom through purchasing your tome. None of the rest of us are

as

> well-trained to be aware of biotoxin insults as you two are.

Today,

> I see I'd like to learn more from you about do it yourself mytoxin

> testing...

> > ~Haley

>

> What I did seems absolutely crazy to people.

> Even knowing that I was going to suffer for doing this, I took a

> sample of mold out to the desert and did proximity experiments.

>

> The hardest thing about this is not learning to perceive exposures.

> It is learning to accept that certain subtle sensations are

harbingers

> of disaster - and to bring yourself to act in accordance with the

> gravity of those indicators by understanding the consequences.

> -

>

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[Guest guest]

" who " < wrote:

>

> sorry erik, but i think your getting a little carried away with

your self. when you detect mycotoxins do you have different reacts

based on the type of mycotoxin? how on earth do you manage to hold

down a job because many here cannot find a place to work that wont

make them ill. were you only exposed to one type of mold/mycotoxin?

and only have a effect only to that type?

please tell us some facts behind your exposure and how you know so

much as to be able to tell someone how they are or are not

precieveing their symptoms and what they smell and dont smell. how

they should be affected or not affected. I take it if you go

hiking, you dont have asthma,chronic sinusitis or allergys or food

allergys, so you just have MCS that still allows you to work. I

dont think that quailifies you to be a expert. I garentee you

theres a lot more to this illness when you have been exposed to

several different molds/mycotoxins that cause asthma problems,

stomach problems, allergys, sinus problems, etc. if you were

exposed to T-myco's that burnt your nose for a period of time do you

have chronic sinusitis/rhinositis?

if you have been exposed to aflatoxins do you have lung problems?

ochratoxins, vision problems? you never talk about anything like

this, only the same thing over and over again. are you suffering

from memory problems? consentration problems? acting like you know

it all does not mean you do. none of us have all the answers or we

wouldn't be here. all you do is quote from mold warriors. over and

over again than switch back to your veiws which we all dont agree

with. you dont even agree with all of shoemakers views, seeing your

own as gospel. theres things I agree with you on, but your

detecting mycotoxins is not one of them.

>

Well, if you saw my story in Mold Warriors, you must know a little

about my CFS story. The symptoms of Chronic Fatigue Syndrome have

been fairly well publicized, and those were the ones lifted from my

experience.

When I told Rick that my story validated his concepts of

trichothecene exposure and CFS, and that " people will want to hear

about this " , I was surprised when he had no interest in helping

me " spread the word " .

Rick explained that when he tried, that people with " all the right

signs for mold illness " threw his information back in his face, and

fought him even harder than the doctors.

I said that I could understand this, as there are so many rip offs

and snake oil salesmen trying to take advantage of sick people, that

one becomes suspicious of strange claims regarding recoveries and

bizarre therapies without overwhelming proof.

However, I said " They won't be able to do that to me, because I'm

an Incline Village survivor and prototype for CFS who is out

climbing mountains as a direct result of this strategy, I can't fake

something like that and only a brain dead moron could fail to be

interested in a story like mine " .

Rick laughed and said " I don't think they will listen to you " and he

declined to waste any more time and effort helping people.

And you may have noticed the conspicuous lack of any more articles

from Rick in the last six years despite his great knowledge.

Well, what can I say? I guess I should have listened to Rick.

He's a smart guy, and I should have taken his advice. I could have

spent even more time out having fun.

I spent yesterday on the Pacific Crest trail above Lake Tahoe,

hiking to the top of Mt. .

" Gloating " ? Sure, why not?

I'm pretty happy about it.

-

[Guest guest]

you should join the aspergillus group

then. Same address as this only put aspergillus

at the end, in place of .

--- Tazin Round <unitedstatesvet@...>

wrote:

> Who,

> Some very good points here. I am curious to

> your reference to aflatoxins. I am having major

> problems coughing up some awful looking things

> and have not read or heard much as far as the

> lungs go. I read most of the links you put out

> and have seen the lung biopsy thing but outside

> of that I seem to be left hanging as far as

> information on this subject. When you have a

> chance, if you have some explanations you can

> jot down I would be greatful. Good post.

> Thanks,

> Chris...

>