Re: Incidence of ASD in families (futher notes!)

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 18/12/2006 14:39:37 GMT Standard Time, bobsallyeva@... writes:

What a wonderful sounding lady. You are in Wandsworth so she must be at....................? I think this explosion must be caused by ultra-sound or all those little green men myself. Sally

Lol, Sally...Margaret was right, she's at St. 's. I wish I could share further what she did for us but I am not comfortable divulging the details. Needless to say, she's been amazing and has bucked strong political pressure in order to do what was right by .

Darla

[Guest guest]

This was St 's, I would think? -You are very lucky to be within

their catchment area.

As to the genetics, statistically there is an increases chance of

another child having ASD once you've already had one. May I suggest

you also think about going to a Foresight practitioner as they will

help you and your husband get " cleaned up " and without any

nutritional deficiencies which may improve chances of a child without

developmental problems http://www.foresight-preconception.org.uk/

Margaret

>

> Just had a 6 monthly review with the developmental paediatrician

who dx'd

> . I asked her for a referral for genetic counselling just

to give us

> the chance to speak to someone who might advise us further as to

the risk,

> etc for future children. The paed said that she would imagine that

our risk of

> another child with autism and/or other lesser or greater

disability would be

> 20 to 50%!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Good lord.

>

> She happily made the referral. Interestingly, she mentioned that

there is a

> *real* rise in the rates of autism (she even used the word

*exlplosion*) and

> said that there is no definitive explanation for this, she said it

could be

> vax's, or environmental triggers with a genetic vulnerability. I

felt very

> encouraged by this as she is HOD at the her practicing hospital

and she didn't

> pressure us to give the blasted MMR (which was nice.)

>

> She was also on the LEA panel and she supported 's VB funding.

>

> Good lord, I need a drink after the 50% thingy. That just does my

little

> head in. <sigh>

> Darla

>

[Guest guest]

She happily made the referral. Interestingly, she mentioned that there is a *real* rise in the rates of autism (she even used the word *exlplosion*) and said that there is no definitive explanation for this, she said it could be vax's, or environmental triggers with a genetic vulnerability. I felt very encouraged by this as she is HOD at the her practicing hospital and she didn't pressure us to give the blasted MMR (which was nice.)

>>Has she had a flyer for the conference? Send me her name off list and I will arrange for her to get one - that goes for anybody else too!

Mandi x

[Guest guest]

As to the genetics, statistically there is an increases chance of another child having ASD once you've already had one. May I suggest you also think about going to a Foresight practitioner as they will help you and your husband get "cleaned up" and without any nutritional deficiencies which may improve chances of a child without developmental problems http://www.foresight-preconception.org.uk/

>>Hey Margaret - I think Mrs is coming to conference and bringing a couple of her mates though not had their booking form yet - one of them has joined TA

Mandi x

[Guest guest]

St. 's

>>>I have sent flyers to every vaguely related medic at Chelsea & Westminster, GOS, ham - its St s part of GOS? It all seems such a muddle when you are looking for names on websites. I also did any paed, gastro, neuro at all and any of the Uk childrens hospitals and as many CDC's as I could find. Please mail me off list if you can help with a poster to yor CDC or flyers etc.

TIA

Mandi x

[Guest guest]

What a wonderful sounding lady. You are in Wandsworth so she must be

at....................? I think this explosion must be caused by

ultra-sound or all those little green men myself.

Sally

rexel45@... wrote:

Just had a 6 monthly review with the developmental paediatrician

who dx'd . I asked her for a referral for genetic counselling

just to give us the chance to speak to someone who might advise us

further as to the risk, etc for future children. The paed said that

she would imagine that our risk of another child with autism and/or

other lesser or greater disability would be 20 to 50%!!!!!!!!!

!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!! !!!! Good lord.

She happily made the referral. Interestingly, she mentioned

that there is a *real* rise in the rates of autism (she even used the

word *exlplosion* ) and said that there is no definitive explanation

for this, she said it could be vax's, or environmental triggers with a

genetic vulnerability. I felt very encouraged by this as she is HOD at

the her practicing hospital and she didn't pressure us to give the

blasted MMR (which was nice.)

She was also on the LEA panel and she supported 's VB

funding.

Good lord, I need a drink after the 50% thingy. That just does

my little head in. <sigh>

Darla

No virus found in this incoming message.

Checked by AVG Free Edition.

Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.15.23/591 - Release Date: 17/12/2006

[Guest guest]

There is a dublin study that showed cellular changes in mice that persisted for three generations after use of ultrasound. Aims do an excellent booklet on ultrasound called "Ultrasound Unsound" available from www.aims.org.uk very interesting reading.

Not suggesting anything, just following on from that thought.

Jane A UK

Re: Incidence of ASD in families (futher notes!)

What a wonderful sounding lady. You are in Wandsworth so she must be at....................? I think this explosion must be caused by ultra-sound or all those little green men myself. Sallyrexel45aol wrote:

Just had a 6 monthly review with the developmental paediatrician who dx'd . I asked her for a referral for genetic counselling just to give us the chance to speak to someone who might advise us further as to the risk, etc for future children. The paed said that she would imagine that our risk of another child with autism and/or other lesser or greater disability would be 20 to 50%!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!! !!!! Good lord.

She happily made the referral. Interestingly, she mentioned that there is a *real* rise in the rates of autism (she even used the word *exlplosion* ) and said that there is no definitive explanation for this, she said it could be vax's, or environmental triggers with a genetic vulnerability. I felt very encouraged by this as she is HOD at the her practicing hospital and she didn't pressure us to give the blasted MMR (which was nice.)

She was also on the LEA panel and she supported 's VB funding.

Good lord, I need a drink after the 50% thingy. That just does my little head in. <sigh>

Darla

No virus found in this incoming message.

Checked by AVG Free Edition.

Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.15.23/591 - Release Date: 17/12/2006

[Guest guest]

I have just found a paper from 1999, ls of the New York Academy of Sciences entited, "Micronutrients Deficiencies: A Major Cause of DNA Damage". I'll post when I can get into my university library as it is down fo repair at the moment. Jane Ashwell <granadan@...> wrote: There is a dublin study that showed cellular changes in mice that persisted for three generations after use of ultrasound. Aims do an excellent booklet on

ultrasound called "Ultrasound Unsound" available from www.aims.org.uk very interesting reading. Not suggesting anything, just following on from that thought. Jane A UK Re: Incidence of ASD in families (futher notes!) What a wonderful sounding lady. You are in Wandsworth so she must be at....................? I think this explosion must be caused by ultra-sound or all those little green men myself. Sallyrexel45aol wrote: Just had a 6 monthly review with the developmental paediatrician who dx'd . I asked her for a referral for genetic counselling just to give us the chance to speak to someone who might advise us further as to the risk, etc for future children. The paed said that she would imagine that our risk of another child with autism and/or other lesser or greater disability

would be 20 to 50%!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!! !!!! Good lord. She happily made the referral. Interestingly, she mentioned that there is a *real* rise in the rates of autism (she even used the word *exlplosion* ) and said that there is no definitive explanation for this, she said it could be vax's, or environmental triggers with a genetic vulnerability. I felt very encouraged by this as she is HOD at the her practicing hospital and she didn't pressure us to give the blasted MMR (which was nice.) She was also on the LEA panel and she supported 's VB funding. Good lord, I need a drink after the 50% thingy. That just does my little head in. <sigh> Darla No virus found

in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.15.23/591 - Release Date: 17/12/2006

[Guest guest]

Yes, well I thought what might cause an explosion of a genetic

condition with an environmental trigger in the last 20 years.

Ultrasound fits the bill. Or whatever they substituted for lead in

petrol. That was the 80s. Or UFOs but they've been around for yonks.

When my daughter was diagnosed in 1996 the SEN department could almost

be heard sighing. Someone said "There's been a huge increase in this

suddenly". At the time I thought it was just one doctor (or lots)

diagnosing more. I blame the little green men. I never should have let

them in.

Sally

Jane Ashwell wrote:

There is a dublin study that showed cellular changes in mice

that persisted for three generations after use of ultrasound. Aims do

an excellent booklet on ultrasound called "Ultrasound Unsound"

available from www.aims.org. uk

very interesting reading.

Not suggesting anything, just following on from that thought.

Jane A UK

Re: Incidence of

ASD in families (futher notes!)

What a wonderful sounding lady. You are in Wandsworth so she

must be at.......... ......... .? I think this explosion must be caused

by ultra-sound or all those little green men myself.

Sally

rexel45aol (DOT) com wrote:

Just had a 6 monthly review with the developmental

paediatrician who dx'd . I asked her for a referral for

genetic counselling just to give us the chance to speak to someone who

might advise us further as to the risk, etc for future children. The

paed said that she would imagine that our risk of another child with

autism and/or other lesser or greater disability would be 20 to

50%!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!! !!!! Good lord.

She happily made the referral. Interestingly, she mentioned

that there is a *real* rise in the rates of autism (she even used the

word *exlplosion* ) and said that there is no definitive explanation

for this, she said it could be vax's, or environmental triggers with a

genetic vulnerability. I felt very encouraged by this as she is HOD at

the her practicing hospital and she didn't pressure us to give the

blasted MMR (which was nice.)

She was also on the LEA panel and she supported 's VB

funding.

Good lord, I need a drink after the 50% thingy. That just

does my little head in. <sigh>

Darla

No virus found in this incoming message.

Checked by AVG Free Edition.

Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.15.23/591 - Release Date: 17/12/2006

No virus found in this incoming message.

Checked by AVG Free Edition.

Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.15.23/591 - Release Date: 17/12/2006

[Guest guest]

Best to protect her.

Sally

rexel45@... wrote:

In a message dated 18/12/2006 14:39:37 GMT Standard Time,

bobsallyeva@ ntlworld. com writes:

What a wonderful sounding lady. You are in Wandsworth so

she must be at.......... ......... .? I think this explosion must be

caused by ultra-sound or all those little green men myself.

Sally

Lol, Sally...Margaret was right, she's at St. 's. I wish

I could share further what she did for us but I am not comfortable

divulging the details. Needless to say, she's been amazing and has

bucked strong political pressure in order to do what was right by

.

Darla

No virus found in this incoming message.

Checked by AVG Free Edition.

Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.15.23/591 - Release Date: 17/12/2006

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 18/12/2006 20:32:11 GMT Standard Time, neno@... writes:

I am so bad at abbreviations, what is GOS?

great Ormond Street and Child Development Centre

and CDC.if you mean St 's hospital it is in Wandsworth borough (ds wasborn there, had to register him in Wandsworth :)if you have not aready done so, there is something called Mery SheridanCentre in Kennington, London (SE1 if I remember correctly) - they aresome sort of 'umbrella' organisation for autism in Lambeth borough...all the paediatricians and SL people I come in touch with are basedthere.

>>Nope haven;t done that one - thanks I'll get on to it

Mandi x

[Guest guest]

I am so bad at abbreviations, what is GOS? and CDC.

if you mean St 's hospital it is in Wandsworth borough (ds was

born there, had to register him in Wandsworth

if you have not aready done so, there is something called Mery Sheridan

Centre in Kennington, London (SE1 if I remember correctly) - they are

some sort of 'umbrella' organisation for autism in Lambeth borough...

all the paediatricians and SL people I come in touch with are based

there.

Natasa

>

>

> In a message dated 18/12/2006 15:06:59 GMT Standard Time, rexel45@...

> writes:

>

> St. 's

>

>

> >>>I have sent flyers to every vaguely related medic at Chelsea &

> Westminster, GOS, ham - its St s part of GOS? It all seems

such a muddle

> when you are looking for names on websites. I also did any paed,

gastro, neuro

> at all and any of the Uk childrens hospitals and as many CDC's as I

could

> find. Please mail me off list if you can help with a poster to yor CDC

or flyers

> etc.

> TIA

> Mandi x

>