Re: Diluent with paint contaminated the door. Any way to deco...

July 8, 2006

*********What kind of paint was used??

July 8, 2006

It was the ordinary white enamel paint for wood. But it wasn't the

culprit for this contamiantion. One side of the door that has been

painted with it is not causing me problems.

it's the petroleum-based diluent that somehow got contaminated and

spoiled the whole thing. And even that diluent was used before without

problems, it's 10 years old as I was told.

Now even when I scrapped all the offending paint and only the wood

remained, it still offgasses mycotoxins.

I wonder if ammonia could help? I already tried just about everything.

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> *********What kind of paint was used??

July 9, 2006

>

> I think you have a chemical sensitivity thing going on.

No, this is definitely mycotoxin or mold. The symptoms are identical

to what I've been experiencing from mold in the past 15 years.

I am not especially sensitive to ordinary chemicals (strong scents,

paints, tar, cigarette smoke etc.).

July 9, 2006

I must be missing something, because from the way I

understand it, you were fine with the door until it

was painted, and you claim you are not especially

sensitive to ordinary chemicals such as paint. And if

I remember correctly, in one of your posts you stated

there was only a problem with one side of the door.

Now, if as you claim, it isn't the paint that's

causing the problems, then there had to be mold on the

door before it was painted, so why didn't it bother

you then?

--- Branislav <arealis@...> wrote:

>

> >

> > I think you have a chemical sensitivity thing

> going on.

>

> No, this is definitely mycotoxin or mold. The

> symptoms are identical

> to what I've been experiencing from mold in the past

> 15 years.

>

> I am not especially sensitive to ordinary chemicals

> (strong scents,

> paints, tar, cigarette smoke etc.).

>

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July 10, 2006

--- In , Barbara <floridabound03200@...>

wrote:

>

> I must be missing something, because from the way I

> understand it, you were fine with the door until it

> was painted, and you claim you are not especially

> sensitive to ordinary chemicals such as paint. And if

> I remember correctly, in one of your posts you stated

> there was only a problem with one side of the door.

> Now, if as you claim, it isn't the paint that's

> causing the problems, then there had to be mold on the

> door before it was painted, so why didn't it bother

> you then?

Barbara,

I didn't explain it well. My first explanation was confusing.

Before painting, neither side of the door caused me any problems.

When the door was painted with the white enamel paint only (without

the addition of any diluent), and the paint dried, again neither side

of the door caused me any problems. But, I mistakenly thought that the

outer side was slightly contaminated.

In an attempt to " fix " the outer side of the door and the wallboard

that's inside the flat, I tried to soften the paint from these

surfaces with the diluent for paint. And that's when the contamination

took place. It was the diluent. That diluent was contaminated with

some mold or mycotoxin. It was only applied on the outer side of the

door and on the wallboard that's inside the flat.

English isn't my first language, so I'm not sure if I'm using the

right word here - diluent - but I refer to that clear, volatile liquid

usually made of petroleum with characteristic odour you use to dilute

white enamel paint, or to wash your hands after painting.

For some odd reason I didn't detect right away that the diluent was

contaminated. However, by nightfall, all the surfaces treated with

that diluent started to cause me typical mold reactions. Those

surfaces included the outer side of the door and the wallboard inside

the flat.

After 2 days I tested the diluent directly on my skin and found out

that it was very much contaminated. How I didn't sense it in the first

place is a great mystery to me.

The inner part of the door which wasn't treated with the diluent is

still ok and doesn't cause me any problems.

I removed all the paint from the outer part of the door and from the

wallboard inside the flat, but the bare wood itself still causes me

problems. It's as if the mycotoxin from the diluent penetrated the

wood to some extent.

I already tried bleach, borax, and many fungicidal essential oils. No

effect so far. I only didn't try ammonia or quartenary ammonia salts

because they are hard to obtain in my country.

Is it likely that they would help in a situation like this or would I

just waste my time in trying to obtain them?

What else can I try to decontaminate this? It should penetrate the

wood and be able to both kill spores and decompose mycotoxins.

July 11, 2006

Have you ever used any cleaning products that tea tree oil in them?

This type of oil is a natural antiseptic killing germs on contact

like staph, strep, e coli, salmonella, fungus, and mold. I just

recently discovered a company that specializes in whole range of

these types of products that are safer (non-toxic), environmentally

sensitive, and more cost effective than the store brands. My husband

has horrible allergies and mold sensitivities which is what attracted

me to this board. I've been using these products for about few

months now and he's gotten a bit better. The bonus has been when I

use them I don't have to wear a face mask or worry about them eating

my hands while I'm cleaning. Not sure if it will solve your issue

with the door but it might be worth a try. If you'd like more

information, just send me an email. I'd be happy to share with you

what I know.

> >

> > *********What kind of paint was used??

>

July 11, 2006

Hi Lily,

I would be interested to know the product name and where to get it?

Thanks Janice.

On 10-Jul-06, at 5:47 PM, Alison wrote:

> Have you ever used any cleaning products that tea tree oil in them?

> This type of oil is a natural antiseptic killing germs on contact

> like staph, strep, e coli, salmonella, fungus, and mold. I just

> recently discovered a company that specializes in whole range of

> these types of products that are safer (non-toxic), environmentally

> sensitive, and more cost effective than the store brands. My husband

> has horrible allergies and mold sensitivities which is what attracted

> me to this board. I've been using these products for about few

> months now and he's gotten a bit better. The bonus has been when I

> use them I don't have to wear a face mask or worry about them eating

> my hands while I'm cleaning. Not sure if it will solve your issue

> with the door but it might be worth a try. If you'd like more

> information, just send me an email. I'd be happy to share with you

> what I know.

>

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July 11, 2006