Guest guest Posted December 16, 2006 Report Share Posted December 16, 2006 I follow the arguement but not why it is relevant to autism Sally Cochran wrote: Vitamin K article, The message is ready to be sent with the following file or link attachments: Shortcut to: http://www.y2khealt handdetox. com/peakk2. html Note: To protect against computer viruses, e-mail programs may prevent sending or receiving certain types of file attachments. Check your e-mail security settings to determine how attachments are handled. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.15.21/589 - Release Date: 15/12/2006 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 16, 2006 Report Share Posted December 16, 2006 I follow the arguement but not why it is relevant to autism Sally Cochran wrote: Vitamin K article, The message is ready to be sent with the following file or link attachments: Shortcut to: http://www.y2khealt handdetox. com/peakk2. html Note: To protect against computer viruses, e-mail programs may prevent sending or receiving certain types of file attachments. Check your e-mail security settings to determine how attachments are handled. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.15.21/589 - Release Date: 15/12/2006 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 16, 2006 Report Share Posted December 16, 2006 Children with ASD often have trouble with calcium regulation and vitamin K is helpful for calcium absorption. There is a train of thought that says that calcium is overabsorbed in our kids and that the lack of fat soluble vitamins prevents its absorption. This may have relevance for those kids with fat absorption problems. However, here what we saw was a frank deficiency of calcium despite milk/cheese/yogurt consumption and supplementation that was ameliorated with the addition of vitamin K. Natasa's eagerly anticipated paper on calcium will illuminate other advantages of proper calcium regulation for our kids, but the ability to properly regulate calcium going in and out of the cells has huge implications for our kids. Re: Emailing: peakk2 I follow the arguement but not why it is relevant to autismSally Cochran wrote: Vitamin K article, The message is ready to be sent with the following file or link attachments:Shortcut to: http://www.y2khealt handdetox. com/peakk2. htmlNote: To protect against computer viruses, e-mail programs may prevent sending or receiving certain types of file attachments. Check your e-mail security settings to determine how attachments are handled. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.15.21/589 - Release Date: 15/12/2006 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 16, 2006 Report Share Posted December 16, 2006 Children with ASD often have trouble with calcium regulation and vitamin K is helpful for calcium absorption. There is a train of thought that says that calcium is overabsorbed in our kids and that the lack of fat soluble vitamins prevents its absorption. This may have relevance for those kids with fat absorption problems. However, here what we saw was a frank deficiency of calcium despite milk/cheese/yogurt consumption and supplementation that was ameliorated with the addition of vitamin K. Natasa's eagerly anticipated paper on calcium will illuminate other advantages of proper calcium regulation for our kids, but the ability to properly regulate calcium going in and out of the cells has huge implications for our kids. Re: Emailing: peakk2 I follow the arguement but not why it is relevant to autismSally Cochran wrote: Vitamin K article, The message is ready to be sent with the following file or link attachments:Shortcut to: http://www.y2khealt handdetox. com/peakk2. htmlNote: To protect against computer viruses, e-mail programs may prevent sending or receiving certain types of file attachments. Check your e-mail security settings to determine how attachments are handled. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.15.21/589 - Release Date: 15/12/2006 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 16, 2006 Report Share Posted December 16, 2006 I can tell that I am hugely out of my depth but if ASD kids over-absorb calcium and vitamin K helps absorption why is vitamin K desirable for our kids? The "lack of fat soluble vitamins" would be something to aim for if over-absorption is the problem Sally Cochran wrote: Children with ASD often have trouble with calcium regulation and vitamin K is helpful for calcium absorption. There is a train of thought that says that calcium is overabsorbed in our kids and that the lack of fat soluble vitamins prevents its absorption. This may have relevance for those kids with fat absorption problems. However, here what we saw was a frank deficiency of calcium despite milk/cheese/ yogurt consumption and supplementation that was ameliorated with the addition of vitamin K. Natasa's eagerly anticipated paper on calcium will illuminate other advantages of proper calcium regulation for our kids, but the ability to properly regulate calcium going in and out of the cells has huge implications for our kids. Re: Emailing: peakk2 I follow the arguement but not why it is relevant to autism Sally Cochran wrote: Vitamin K article, The message is ready to be sent with the following file or link attachments: Shortcut to: http://www.y2khealt handdetox. com/peakk2. html Note: To protect against computer viruses, e-mail programs may prevent sending or receiving certain types of file attachments. Check your e-mail security settings to determine how attachments are handled. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.15.21/589 - Release Date: 15/12/2006 No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.15.21/589 - Release Date: 15/12/2006 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 16, 2006 Report Share Posted December 16, 2006 I can tell that I am hugely out of my depth but if ASD kids over-absorb calcium and vitamin K helps absorption why is vitamin K desirable for our kids? The "lack of fat soluble vitamins" would be something to aim for if over-absorption is the problem Sally Cochran wrote: Children with ASD often have trouble with calcium regulation and vitamin K is helpful for calcium absorption. There is a train of thought that says that calcium is overabsorbed in our kids and that the lack of fat soluble vitamins prevents its absorption. This may have relevance for those kids with fat absorption problems. However, here what we saw was a frank deficiency of calcium despite milk/cheese/ yogurt consumption and supplementation that was ameliorated with the addition of vitamin K. Natasa's eagerly anticipated paper on calcium will illuminate other advantages of proper calcium regulation for our kids, but the ability to properly regulate calcium going in and out of the cells has huge implications for our kids. Re: Emailing: peakk2 I follow the arguement but not why it is relevant to autism Sally Cochran wrote: Vitamin K article, The message is ready to be sent with the following file or link attachments: Shortcut to: http://www.y2khealt handdetox. com/peakk2. html Note: To protect against computer viruses, e-mail programs may prevent sending or receiving certain types of file attachments. Check your e-mail security settings to determine how attachments are handled. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.15.21/589 - Release Date: 15/12/2006 No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.15.21/589 - Release Date: 15/12/2006 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 16, 2006 Report Share Posted December 16, 2006 Absorption is not only from gut to blood,but also from blood to bone and other tissue in need of Calcium..Increased absorption to bone might lower serum Calcium..Geir Flatabø On 12/16/06, Eva family <bobsallyeva@...> wrote: I can tell that I am hugely out of my depth but if ASD kids over-absorb calcium and vitamin K helps absorption why is vitamin K desirable for our kids? The " lack of fat soluble vitamins " would be something to aim for if over-absorption is the problem Sally Cochran wrote: Children with ASD often have trouble with calcium regulation and vitamin K is helpful for calcium absorption. There is a train of thought that says that calcium is overabsorbed in our kids and that the lack of fat soluble vitamins prevents its absorption. This may have relevance for those kids with fat absorption problems. However, here what we saw was a frank deficiency of calcium despite milk/cheese/ yogurt consumption and supplementation that was ameliorated with the addition of vitamin K. Natasa's eagerly anticipated paper on calcium will illuminate other advantages of proper calcium regulation for our kids, but the ability to properly regulate calcium going in and out of the cells has huge implications for our kids. Re: Emailing: peakk2 I follow the arguement but not why it is relevant to autism Sally Cochran wrote: Vitamin K article, The message is ready to be sent with the following file or link attachments: Shortcut to: http://www.y2khealt handdetox. com/peakk2. html Note: To protect against computer viruses, e-mail programs may prevent sending or receiving certain types of file attachments. Check your e-mail security settings to determine how attachments are handled. No virus found in this incoming message.Checked by AVG Free Edition.Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.15.21/589 - Release Date: 15/12/2006 No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.15.21/589 - Release Date: 15/12/2006 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 16, 2006 Report Share Posted December 16, 2006 Absorption is not only from gut to blood,but also from blood to bone and other tissue in need of Calcium..Increased absorption to bone might lower serum Calcium..Geir Flatabø On 12/16/06, Eva family <bobsallyeva@...> wrote: I can tell that I am hugely out of my depth but if ASD kids over-absorb calcium and vitamin K helps absorption why is vitamin K desirable for our kids? The " lack of fat soluble vitamins " would be something to aim for if over-absorption is the problem Sally Cochran wrote: Children with ASD often have trouble with calcium regulation and vitamin K is helpful for calcium absorption. There is a train of thought that says that calcium is overabsorbed in our kids and that the lack of fat soluble vitamins prevents its absorption. This may have relevance for those kids with fat absorption problems. However, here what we saw was a frank deficiency of calcium despite milk/cheese/ yogurt consumption and supplementation that was ameliorated with the addition of vitamin K. Natasa's eagerly anticipated paper on calcium will illuminate other advantages of proper calcium regulation for our kids, but the ability to properly regulate calcium going in and out of the cells has huge implications for our kids. Re: Emailing: peakk2 I follow the arguement but not why it is relevant to autism Sally Cochran wrote: Vitamin K article, The message is ready to be sent with the following file or link attachments: Shortcut to: http://www.y2khealt handdetox. com/peakk2. html Note: To protect against computer viruses, e-mail programs may prevent sending or receiving certain types of file attachments. Check your e-mail security settings to determine how attachments are handled. No virus found in this incoming message.Checked by AVG Free Edition.Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.15.21/589 - Release Date: 15/12/2006 No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.15.21/589 - Release Date: 15/12/2006 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 16, 2006 Report Share Posted December 16, 2006 Thanks, Geir, You wrote: "Increased absorption to bone might lower serum Calcium". This is exactly what we saw and have documented here on two CBC's two months apart after supplementing K. Re: Emailing: peakk2 I follow the arguement but not why it is relevant to autismSally Cochran wrote: Vitamin K article, The message is ready to be sent with the following file or link attachments:Shortcut to: http://www.y2khealt handdetox. com/peakk2. htmlNote: To protect against computer viruses, e-mail programs may prevent sending or receiving certain types of file attachments. Check your e-mail security settings to determine how attachments are handled. No virus found in this incoming message.Checked by AVG Free Edition.Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.15.21/589 - Release Date: 15/12/2006 No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.15.21/589 - Release Date: 15/12/2006 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 16, 2006 Report Share Posted December 16, 2006 Thanks, Geir, You wrote: "Increased absorption to bone might lower serum Calcium". This is exactly what we saw and have documented here on two CBC's two months apart after supplementing K. Re: Emailing: peakk2 I follow the arguement but not why it is relevant to autismSally Cochran wrote: Vitamin K article, The message is ready to be sent with the following file or link attachments:Shortcut to: http://www.y2khealt handdetox. com/peakk2. htmlNote: To protect against computer viruses, e-mail programs may prevent sending or receiving certain types of file attachments. Check your e-mail security settings to determine how attachments are handled. No virus found in this incoming message.Checked by AVG Free Edition.Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.15.21/589 - Release Date: 15/12/2006 No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.15.21/589 - Release Date: 15/12/2006 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 16, 2006 Report Share Posted December 16, 2006 Sally, Sorry, your post did not show here, only picked it up from Geir's post. I don't think that they are overabsorbing calcium, I merely included that as some others' have suggested that is the problem, and it may be, for some kids. I think they under absorb calcium and what Geir wrote appears more plausible to me, that increased absorption to bone lowers serum calcium, that is what we saw here and might be applicable for those children particularly with high blood serum Calcium. Surely, scoliosis should be a big warning sign that they are NOT absorbing adequate calcium or the calcium is not going where it should. Re: Emailing: peakk2 I follow the arguement but not why it is relevant to autismSally Cochran wrote: Vitamin K article, The message is ready to be sent with the following file or link attachments:Shortcut to: http://www.y2khealt handdetox. com/peakk2. htmlNote: To protect against computer viruses, e-mail programs may prevent sending or receiving certain types of file attachments. Check your e-mail security settings to determine how attachments are handled. No virus found in this incoming message.Checked by AVG Free Edition.Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.15.21/589 - Release Date: 15/12/2006 No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.15.21/589 - Release Date: 15/12/2006 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 16, 2006 Report Share Posted December 16, 2006 thanks, I'll google scoliosis and find out what it is. Sally Cochran wrote: Sally, Sorry, your post did not show here, only picked it up from Geir's post. I don't think that they are overabsorbing calcium, I merely included that as some others' have suggested that is the problem, and it may be, for some kids. I think they under absorb calcium and what Geir wrote appears more plausible to me, that increased absorption to bone lowers serum calcium, that is what we saw here and might be applicable for those children particularly with high blood serum Calcium. Surely, scoliosis should be a big warning sign that they are NOT absorbing adequate calcium or the calcium is not going where it should. Re: Emailing: peakk2 I follow the arguement but not why it is relevant to autism Sally Cochran wrote: Vitamin K article, The message is ready to be sent with the following file or link attachments: Shortcut to: http://www.y2khealt handdetox. com/peakk2. html Note: To protect against computer viruses, e-mail programs may prevent sending or receiving certain types of file attachments. Check your e-mail security settings to determine how attachments are handled. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.15.21/589 - Release Date: 15/12/2006 No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.15.21/589 - Release Date: 15/12/2006 No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.15.21/589 - Release Date: 15/12/2006 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 16, 2006 Report Share Posted December 16, 2006 thanks, I'll google scoliosis and find out what it is. Sally Cochran wrote: Sally, Sorry, your post did not show here, only picked it up from Geir's post. I don't think that they are overabsorbing calcium, I merely included that as some others' have suggested that is the problem, and it may be, for some kids. I think they under absorb calcium and what Geir wrote appears more plausible to me, that increased absorption to bone lowers serum calcium, that is what we saw here and might be applicable for those children particularly with high blood serum Calcium. Surely, scoliosis should be a big warning sign that they are NOT absorbing adequate calcium or the calcium is not going where it should. Re: Emailing: peakk2 I follow the arguement but not why it is relevant to autism Sally Cochran wrote: Vitamin K article, The message is ready to be sent with the following file or link attachments: Shortcut to: http://www.y2khealt handdetox. com/peakk2. html Note: To protect against computer viruses, e-mail programs may prevent sending or receiving certain types of file attachments. Check your e-mail security settings to determine how attachments are handled. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.15.21/589 - Release Date: 15/12/2006 No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.15.21/589 - Release Date: 15/12/2006 No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.15.21/589 - Release Date: 15/12/2006 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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