Anita/was: Re: Dilation of pupils

[Guest guest]

Anita, you might want to check out the new Vitamin K board and the use of VSL to break down oxalates, in lieu of or instead of the low oxalate diet. Fwiw, thinking it is a much more superior way to go than the diet.

Btw, welcome back, hoping the New Year holds promise for lots of answers for you.

Re: Dilation of pupils

>> > As the discussion lots of factors contribute to the "problem",> Large pupils from my experience could be seen with high ammonia,> have that been tested ( urinary and stool pH ?. ).Haven't had this test done. Can it be done at home with the pH papers? Other testing has indicated possible ammonia issues; however, we've been low protein for 5 weeks now and using AKA for part of that time with no noticeable benefit. Other anti-ammonia steps have not been taken because Canada Post lost my parcel containing all the supps to address it (insert profanity).> > Any evidence about if there is still peptides in the urine ?? Have you> done control urinary peptide assay ? - Using only Naturally gluten> free products, and no soy ?Haven't done the peptide assay. He's always been soy free. Gluten free for five weeks with no improvement I can pinpoint. He did have an infraction four days ago with no discernible problem.> > If al this have been done, the ordinary DAN - next step - would be> looking at SCF diet and / or Low Oxalate diet .> A common problem when going into gfcf diet is increased starch content> in food, that foster lots of bad bugs, Clostridia, Bacteroides and> yests.We did go low oxalate for only 8 days, even though he had none of the signs considered promising for this diet, but all we got was severe constipation. I realize this mayt be a sign of dumping oxalates, but it seemed much more likely a sign of a complete lack of fibre in the LOD I was able to get into him.> > > How soon after going gfcf would one expect to see changes in the pupils> > if, in fact, GFCf was working as a result of diminished opioid effect?> > Well larg pupils could be seen as a result of gfcf diet, - for how> long they should stay large, i really don`t know, but maybe 3 months> or so like other abstinence reactions. ??Thanks for this.> I know of no other practical way than look at the pupil, and make an> estimate - at the same light conditions...Which I shall be doing.Geir, thank you for taking the time. I certainly appreciate it. Anita> >> >> >> >>

[Guest guest]

Hi Anita,

If you have any specifics on the cautions Owen's had, I'd be interested in hearing what they were. I never saw anything but some vague "I'd be careful", which is what I say to anyone even if they are just crossing the street. I may not even understand the cautions, or I might, but I like to be given the specifics of what they are.

Just 4 weeks of Vitamin K, a harmless fat soluble vitamin, brought our serum calcium into range for the first time ever. Another 6 weeks and they are down even further. Managing calcium correctly has huge benefits for our kids.

Btw, the cow is gone, yeahhhhh!!!, my spring flowers are thanking me in advance and we have found another way to get that good raw milk for our girl, although I might get busted. Never thought it would come to this, that's for sure.

I think SCD is probably the most healthful diet and what I would have gone to if I had known about it when we could not do the cf/gf diet. Good luck to you,

Anita/was: Re: Dilation of pupils

Hi ,I've read the Vitamin K paper you're referring to, rather too quickly I'm afraid. I also read Owen's comments (or at least some of them--not sure I got to all of them) and I must say I'm a bit leary about the K theories. Of course I don't understand the science, which leaves me completely unqualified to make any sort of assessment, but I do know believe that is careful and her cautions make me, well, cautious.Having said all that, if we do go to another special diet, it will be SCD. I am hoping though to try other routes first, including perhaps NAET and then more nourishing traditions sort of stuff (slowly trying to get there for everyone, but unlike some people I envy ;-) I don't yet have a cow in the backyard). Restrictive diets, at least for us here, just suck. I hate them. As for the VSL, I have been meaning to look into it, but having read that people with diarrhea problems use it, I've put it to the bottom of the list because our issues here are just the opposite. Thanks for the welcome back and good wishes :-)Anita>> Anita, you might want to check out the new Vitamin K board and the use of VSL to break down oxalates, in lieu of or instead of the low oxalate diet. Fwiw, thinking it is a much more superior way to go than the diet.> > Btw, welcome back, hoping the New Year holds promise for lots of answers for you.> > > >

[Guest guest]

Hi Anita,

Raw milk cannot be commercially sold in UK and I have tried to source some

locally but no organic dairy locally. Please tell us what are the benefits of

Raw Milk and improvements you have noticed.

Thanks

Bridget

>

> From: " Cochran " <Ladyshrink111@...>

> Date: 2006/12/12 Tue PM 10:44:46 GMT

> <Autism Treatment >

> Subject: Re: Anita/was: Re: Dilation of pupils

>

> Hi Anita,

>

> If you have any specifics on the cautions Owen's had, I'd be interested

in hearing what they were. I never saw anything but some vague " I'd be careful " ,

which is what I say to anyone even if they are just crossing the street. I may

not even understand the cautions, or I might, but I like to be given the

specifics of what they are.

>

> Just 4 weeks of Vitamin K, a harmless fat soluble vitamin, brought our serum

calcium into range for the first time ever. Another 6 weeks and they are down

even further. Managing calcium correctly has huge benefits for our kids.

>

> Btw, the cow is gone, yeahhhhh!!!, my spring flowers are thanking me in

advance and we have found another way to get that good raw milk for our girl,

although I might get busted. Never thought it would come to this, that's for

sure.

>

> I think SCD is probably the most healthful diet and what I would have gone to

if I had known about it when we could not do the cf/gf diet. Good luck to you,

>

>

>

>

>

>

> Anita/was: Re: Dilation of pupils

>

>

> Hi ,

>

> I've read the Vitamin K paper you're referring to, rather too quickly

> I'm afraid. I also read Owen's comments (or at least some of

> them--not sure I got to all of them) and I must say I'm a bit leary

> about the K theories. Of course I don't understand the science,

> which leaves me completely unqualified to make any sort of

> assessment, but I do know believe that is careful and her

> cautions make me, well, cautious.

>

> Having said all that, if we do go to another special diet, it will be

> SCD. I am hoping though to try other routes first, including perhaps

> NAET and then more nourishing traditions sort of stuff (slowly trying

> to get there for everyone, but unlike some people I envy ;-) I don't

> yet have a cow in the backyard). Restrictive diets, at least for us

> here, just suck. I hate them.

>

> As for the VSL, I have been meaning to look into it, but having read

> that people with diarrhea problems use it, I've put it to the bottom

> of the list because our issues here are just the opposite.

>

> Thanks for the welcome back and good wishes :-)

>

> Anita

>

>

> >

> > Anita, you might want to check out the new Vitamin K board and the

> use of VSL to break down oxalates, in lieu of or instead of the low

> oxalate diet. Fwiw, thinking it is a much more superior way to go

> than the diet.

> >

> > Btw, welcome back, hoping the New Year holds promise for lots of

> answers for you.

> >

> >

> >

> >

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Anita,

Raw milk cannot be commercially sold in UK and I have tried to source some

locally but no organic dairy locally. Please tell us what are the benefits of

Raw Milk and improvements you have noticed.

Thanks

Bridget

>

> From: " Cochran " <Ladyshrink111@...>

> Date: 2006/12/12 Tue PM 10:44:46 GMT

> <Autism Treatment >

> Subject: Re: Anita/was: Re: Dilation of pupils

>

> Hi Anita,

>

> If you have any specifics on the cautions Owen's had, I'd be interested

in hearing what they were. I never saw anything but some vague " I'd be careful " ,

which is what I say to anyone even if they are just crossing the street. I may

not even understand the cautions, or I might, but I like to be given the

specifics of what they are.

>

> Just 4 weeks of Vitamin K, a harmless fat soluble vitamin, brought our serum

calcium into range for the first time ever. Another 6 weeks and they are down

even further. Managing calcium correctly has huge benefits for our kids.

>

> Btw, the cow is gone, yeahhhhh!!!, my spring flowers are thanking me in

advance and we have found another way to get that good raw milk for our girl,

although I might get busted. Never thought it would come to this, that's for

sure.

>

> I think SCD is probably the most healthful diet and what I would have gone to

if I had known about it when we could not do the cf/gf diet. Good luck to you,

>

>

>

>

>

>

> Anita/was: Re: Dilation of pupils

>

>

> Hi ,

>

> I've read the Vitamin K paper you're referring to, rather too quickly

> I'm afraid. I also read Owen's comments (or at least some of

> them--not sure I got to all of them) and I must say I'm a bit leary

> about the K theories. Of course I don't understand the science,

> which leaves me completely unqualified to make any sort of

> assessment, but I do know believe that is careful and her

> cautions make me, well, cautious.

>

> Having said all that, if we do go to another special diet, it will be

> SCD. I am hoping though to try other routes first, including perhaps

> NAET and then more nourishing traditions sort of stuff (slowly trying

> to get there for everyone, but unlike some people I envy ;-) I don't

> yet have a cow in the backyard). Restrictive diets, at least for us

> here, just suck. I hate them.

>

> As for the VSL, I have been meaning to look into it, but having read

> that people with diarrhea problems use it, I've put it to the bottom

> of the list because our issues here are just the opposite.

>

> Thanks for the welcome back and good wishes :-)

>

> Anita

>

>

> >

> > Anita, you might want to check out the new Vitamin K board and the

> use of VSL to break down oxalates, in lieu of or instead of the low

> oxalate diet. Fwiw, thinking it is a much more superior way to go

> than the diet.

> >

> > Btw, welcome back, hoping the New Year holds promise for lots of

> answers for you.

> >

> >

> >

> >

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi

I looked for the ‘new vitamin K

board’ and couldn’t find it.

Is it a group and do you have the link?

Thanks Sally

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[mailto:Autism Treatment ] On Behalf Of Anita Kugelstadt

Sent: 12 December 2006 18:29

To:

Autism Treatment

Subject:

Anita/was: Re: Dilation of pupils

Hi ,

I've read the Vitamin K paper you're referring to, rather too quickly

I'm afraid. I also read Owen's comments (or at least some of

them--not sure I got to all of them) and I must say I'm a bit leary

about the K theories. Of course I don't understand the science,

which leaves me completely unqualified to make any sort of

assessment, but I do know believe that is careful and her

cautions make me, well, cautious.

Having said all that, if we do go to another special diet, it will be

SCD. I am hoping though to try other routes first, including perhaps

NAET and then more nourishing traditions sort of stuff (slowly trying

to get there for everyone, but unlike some people I envy ;-) I don't

yet have a cow in the backyard). Restrictive diets, at least for us

here, just suck. I hate them.

As for the VSL, I have been meaning to look into it, but having read

that people with diarrhea problems use it, I've put it to the bottom

of the list because our issues here are just the opposite.

Thanks for the welcome back and good wishes :-)

Anita

>

> Anita, you might want to check out the new Vitamin K board and the

use of VSL to break down oxalates, in lieu of or instead of the low

oxalate diet. Fwiw, thinking it is a much more superior way to go

than the diet.

>

> Btw, welcome back, hoping the New Year holds promise for lots of

answers for you.

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Bridget,

We didn't have to do enzymes as there are a ton of them in raw milk. I don't know if there are other improvements that I can pinpoint specifically to raw milk as we were doing so much back then. The raw milk was part of our organic diet that we did for a solid year to allow her to heal, along with the chickens and the eggs.

I would advise purchasing the raw milk rather than the cow. I really don't like cows and this one was daft, really. The last straw is when my dgd had left our back french doors open and the blame thing came right into my kitchen. It also ate all my flowers, would get them from everywhere in the yard and then come to the back door and stare at me with the flowers in it's mouth chewing.

It now has a nice home on a neighboring farm where my dh and dgd go visit it and we get the milk, cream and some butter also, so nice deal.

Anita/was: Re: Dilation of pupils

Sorry for the confusion Bridget. I don't have access to raw milk. It is simply a dream of mine so far. used to own a cow but now just gets the raw milk.The main reason I would like raw milk is because I went to a presentation by Sally Fallon, the founder of the Weston A Price organization. Her work, based on Price's work, is very compelling.You can look up their stuff here: http://www.westonaprice.org/index.htmlI am trying to switch my family to a more Nourishing Traditions (her cookbook) way. It's a long haul though, partly because we can't get stuff like raw milk, partly because it is time-consuming to prepare food the traditional ways.Sorry I can't be of much help.Anita>> Hi Anita,> > Raw milk cannot be commercially sold in UK and I have tried to source some locally but no organic dairy locally. Please tell us what are the benefits of Raw Milk and improvements you have noticed.> > Thanks> > Bridget > >

[Guest guest]

Can someone help Sally find the link to the vitamin K board, sorry, I don't do windows or links :-)

RE: Anita/was: Re: Dilation of pupils

Hi

I looked for the ‘new vitamin K board’ and couldn’t find it. Is it a group and do you have the link?

Thanks Sally

-----Original Message-----From: Autism Treatment [mailto:Autism Treatment ] On Behalf Of Anita KugelstadtSent: 12 December 2006 18:29Autism Treatment Subject: Anita/was: Re: Dilation of pupils

Hi ,I've read the Vitamin K paper you're referring to, rather too quickly I'm afraid. I also read Owen's comments (or at least some of them--not sure I got to all of them) and I must say I'm a bit leary about the K theories. Of course I don't understand the science, which leaves me completely unqualified to make any sort of assessment, but I do know believe that is careful and her cautions make me, well, cautious.Having said all that, if we do go to another special diet, it will be SCD. I am hoping though to try other routes first, including perhaps NAET and then more nourishing traditions sort of stuff (slowly trying to get there for everyone, but unlike some people I envy ;-) I don't yet have a cow in the backyard). Restrictive diets, at least for us here, just suck. I hate them. As for the VSL, I have been meaning to look into it, but having read that people with diarrhea problems use it, I've put it to the bottom of the list because our issues here are just the opposite. Thanks for the welcome back and good wishes :-)Anita>> Anita, you might want to check out the new Vitamin K board and the use of VSL to break down oxalates, in lieu of or instead of the low oxalate diet. Fwiw, thinking it is a much more superior way to go than the diet.> > Btw, welcome back, hoping the New Year holds promise for lots of answers for you.> > > >

[Guest guest]

Can someone help Sally find the link to the vitamin K board, sorry, I don't do windows or links :-)

RE: Anita/was: Re: Dilation of pupils

Hi

I looked for the ‘new vitamin K board’ and couldn’t find it. Is it a group and do you have the link?

Thanks Sally

-----Original Message-----From: Autism Treatment [mailto:Autism Treatment ] On Behalf Of Anita KugelstadtSent: 12 December 2006 18:29Autism Treatment Subject: Anita/was: Re: Dilation of pupils

Hi ,I've read the Vitamin K paper you're referring to, rather too quickly I'm afraid. I also read Owen's comments (or at least some of them--not sure I got to all of them) and I must say I'm a bit leary about the K theories. Of course I don't understand the science, which leaves me completely unqualified to make any sort of assessment, but I do know believe that is careful and her cautions make me, well, cautious.Having said all that, if we do go to another special diet, it will be SCD. I am hoping though to try other routes first, including perhaps NAET and then more nourishing traditions sort of stuff (slowly trying to get there for everyone, but unlike some people I envy ;-) I don't yet have a cow in the backyard). Restrictive diets, at least for us here, just suck. I hate them. As for the VSL, I have been meaning to look into it, but having read that people with diarrhea problems use it, I've put it to the bottom of the list because our issues here are just the opposite. Thanks for the welcome back and good wishes :-)Anita>> Anita, you might want to check out the new Vitamin K board and the use of VSL to break down oxalates, in lieu of or instead of the low oxalate diet. Fwiw, thinking it is a much more superior way to go than the diet.> > Btw, welcome back, hoping the New Year holds promise for lots of answers for you.> > > >

[Guest guest]

http://health./group/VitaminK

> >

> > Anita, you might want to check out the new Vitamin K board and the

> use of VSL to break down oxalates, in lieu of or instead of the low

> oxalate diet. Fwiw, thinking it is a much more superior way to go

> than the diet.

> >

> > Btw, welcome back, hoping the New Year holds promise for lots of

> answers for you.

> >

> >

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Oops, Anita thanks for reply.

Will check the link.

Bridget

>

>

> Date: 2006/12/13 Wed PM 08:42:29 GMT

> Autism Treatment

> Subject: Anita/was: Re: Dilation of pupils

>

> Sorry for the confusion Bridget. I don't have access to raw milk.

> It is simply a dream of mine so far. used to own a cow but

> now just gets the raw milk.

>

> The main reason I would like raw milk is because I went to a

> presentation by Sally Fallon, the founder of the Weston A Price

> organization. Her work, based on Price's work, is very compelling.

>

> You can look up their stuff here:

> http://www.westonaprice.org/index.html

>

> I am trying to switch my family to a more Nourishing Traditions (her

> cookbook) way. It's a long haul though, partly because we can't get

> stuff like raw milk, partly because it is time-consuming to prepare

> food the traditional ways.

>

> Sorry I can't be of much help.

>

> Anita

>

>

> >

> > Hi Anita,

> >

> > Raw milk cannot be commercially sold in UK and I have tried to

> source some locally but no organic dairy locally. Please tell us what

> are the benefits of Raw Milk and improvements you have noticed.

> >

> > Thanks

> >

> > Bridget

> >

> >

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Oops, Anita thanks for reply.

Will check the link.

Bridget

>

>

> Date: 2006/12/13 Wed PM 08:42:29 GMT

> Autism Treatment

> Subject: Anita/was: Re: Dilation of pupils

>

> Sorry for the confusion Bridget. I don't have access to raw milk.

> It is simply a dream of mine so far. used to own a cow but

> now just gets the raw milk.

>

> The main reason I would like raw milk is because I went to a

> presentation by Sally Fallon, the founder of the Weston A Price

> organization. Her work, based on Price's work, is very compelling.

>

> You can look up their stuff here:

> http://www.westonaprice.org/index.html

>

> I am trying to switch my family to a more Nourishing Traditions (her

> cookbook) way. It's a long haul though, partly because we can't get

> stuff like raw milk, partly because it is time-consuming to prepare

> food the traditional ways.

>

> Sorry I can't be of much help.

>

> Anita

>

>

> >

> > Hi Anita,

> >

> > Raw milk cannot be commercially sold in UK and I have tried to

> source some locally but no organic dairy locally. Please tell us what

> are the benefits of Raw Milk and improvements you have noticed.

> >

> > Thanks

> >

> > Bridget

> >

> >

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Oops, Anita thanks for reply.

Will check the link.

Bridget

>

>

> Date: 2006/12/13 Wed PM 08:42:29 GMT

> Autism Treatment

> Subject: Anita/was: Re: Dilation of pupils

>

> Sorry for the confusion Bridget. I don't have access to raw milk.

> It is simply a dream of mine so far. used to own a cow but

> now just gets the raw milk.

>

> The main reason I would like raw milk is because I went to a

> presentation by Sally Fallon, the founder of the Weston A Price

> organization. Her work, based on Price's work, is very compelling.

>

> You can look up their stuff here:

> http://www.westonaprice.org/index.html

>

> I am trying to switch my family to a more Nourishing Traditions (her

> cookbook) way. It's a long haul though, partly because we can't get

> stuff like raw milk, partly because it is time-consuming to prepare

> food the traditional ways.

>

> Sorry I can't be of much help.

>

> Anita

>

>

> >

> > Hi Anita,

> >

> > Raw milk cannot be commercially sold in UK and I have tried to

> source some locally but no organic dairy locally. Please tell us what

> are the benefits of Raw Milk and improvements you have noticed.

> >

> > Thanks

> >

> > Bridget

> >

> >

>

>

>