Re: Diet confusion SCD or LOD or just Vitamin K2 or ?? for high ammonia

[Guest guest]

Snap! My son has been at this weight for almost a year as well. I

was shocked to see that trousers he wore last year are now too loose

on him.

Looking for help here too in how to get calories into our kids. We

have him off of so many foods including eggs which he loved. We just

decided it was going to be allergy or starvation. We choose allergy.

I really feel myself like i am going too far, way too far with the

diet thing. My own boy does not have IBS or coeliac and seems to

tolerate a little bit of gluten so we are going to give him store

bought potato waffles, his favorite.

We have been cooking a vegetable mash coated in a non alcoholic beer

batter which he loves. Only way to get veggies into him. For us, the

diet is just getting way WAYYYY too hard and we have to think about

nutrients from food that are not getting into our boy.

Its a hard one and i dont have answers for you. Maybe some othes

will come on board to help us both.

>

> Hello

>

> When we did SCD with Tom it definitely helped his gut but he lost

> weight. Now given that we're told to restrict the amount of

protein

> he has due to high ammonia and given the choice he would gorge on

> rice cakes which we know feed his yeast and give him dark circles

we

> dont know where to turn. What on earth does he eat??

>

> He is very underweight. 42lbs. He's been 42lb for about hte past

> twelve months despite the fact that in that time he's grown about

2

> inches. You can see all his ribs.

>

> We need to get wholesome calories into this boy (and he has the

> appetite of a sparrow). If he's only going to eat a little bit I

> need to make sure that what he does eat is calorific (he runs for

> hours) but not going to complicate his diet/gut/yeast erc.

>

> Things he will eat:

>

> chicken, sardines in tomato sauce, gf anything (but I am having my

> doubts about these commercial gf things), gf pasta (ditto),

carrots,

> oranges, rice cakes (in industrial quantities if allowed), juice

of

> all kinds, water, chips, bolognaise sometimes, tomato pasta sauce.

>

> He also loves brie and marmite but we try to steer clear of those.

I

> am currently giving yucca with each protein meal and k2 once a

day.

> But is this just going to stop him using the protein properly? If

we

> go back to SCD how do we balance that with high ammonia?

>

> Help!

>

> Steph x

>

[Guest guest]

I take it enzymes don't work. Does he have gut inflammation?

Sally

stephaniesirr wrote:

Hello

When we did SCD with Tom it definitely helped his gut but he lost

weight. Now given that we're told to restrict the amount of protein

he has due to high ammonia and given the choice he would gorge on

rice cakes which we know feed his yeast and give him dark circles we

dont know where to turn. What on earth does he eat??

He is very underweight. 42lbs. He's been 42lb for about hte past

twelve months despite the fact that in that time he's grown about 2

inches. You can see all his ribs.

We need to get wholesome calories into this boy (and he has the

appetite of a sparrow). If he's only going to eat a little bit I

need to make sure that what he does eat is calorific (he runs for

hours) but not going to complicate his diet/gut/yeast erc.

Things he will eat:

chicken, sardines in tomato sauce, gf anything (but I am having my

doubts about these commercial gf things), gf pasta (ditto), carrots,

oranges, rice cakes (in industrial quantities if allowed), juice of

all kinds, water, chips, bolognaise sometimes, tomato pasta sauce.

He also loves brie and marmite but we try to steer clear of those. I

am currently giving yucca with each protein meal and k2 once a day.

But is this just going to stop him using the protein properly? If we

go back to SCD how do we balance that with high ammonia?

Help!

Steph x

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[Guest guest]

Yes he takes enzymes. I think eating a decent size meal actually hurts

him sometimes. He just nibbles stuff.

[Guest guest]

We don't know if his gut is inflamed. Dr Murch thought not but he also

thought he wasn't impacted until he saw the xray! I don't know how we

tell if he's got inflamed guts really.

[Guest guest]

---Hi ,

My son has weight problem for years.In the last 3 years he had

severe gut infection when we were abroad,since his health was not

right and he didn't gain much weight despite vit/min.supplements,enzymes.

Then he was referred to the Royal Free Hospital gastroenterologist.He

was put on high calorie drinks which was called clinutren.>He was also

recommended calojen..high cal.oil supplements..In the last 6 months he

gained 3.5 kgs.he will be on until January.

he is on GF/CF diets but occasionally he consumes some yogurt may be

rye or oat biscuits.

I know how frightening when you see your child's ribs

countable,worrying about muscle development..

Dr H interprets his test result says Lysozmye is high which indicates

inflammation.WE know he has bacteria and parasities and I am trying to

clean these nasties by caprylic acid and Biocidin.

I don't know how much my personal information will be helpful for you

but we have similar experiences that's why I wanted to share.

I hope things will be better soon.

Warmly

nevin

[Guest guest]

Hi Steph

I am afraid I do not have any suggestions for you - I wish I did - still trying to educate myself in all this stuff!!

But couple of things you mentioned interested me. You mentioned that rice cakes feed his yeast?!! Luke eats 3-4 rice cakes a day and we are often battling with a yeast problem with him. What is in rice cakes that feed yeast?

Also you mentioned high ammonia - Luke also has this problem - and the only thing we have tried is AKA -which doesn't seemed to have helped at all. Dr H did also suggest royal jelly - which I have bought but haven't tried yet. But you mention limiting his protein intake? How restrictive should this be?

Luke has always be a really fussy eater though has improved recently - so I know what you are going through. It is very difficult, it was one of the hardest things I had to deal with. I really wish and Tom you all the best.

Nicola

Diet confusion SCD or LOD or just Vitamin K2 or ?? for high ammonia

HelloWhen we did SCD with Tom it definitely helped his gut but he lost weight. Now given that we're told to restrict the amount of protein he has due to high ammonia and given the choice he would gorge on rice cakes which we know feed his yeast and give him dark circles we dont know where to turn. What on earth does he eat??He is very underweight. 42lbs. He's been 42lb for about hte past twelve months despite the fact that in that time he's grown about 2 inches. You can see all his ribs. We need to get wholesome calories into this boy (and he has the appetite of a sparrow). If he's only going to eat a little bit I need to make sure that what he does eat is calorific (he runs for hours) but not going to complicate his diet/gut/yeast erc.Things he will eat:chicken, sardines in tomato sauce, gf anything (but I am having my doubts about these commercial gf things), gf pasta (ditto), carrots, oranges, rice cakes (in industrial quantities if allowed), juice of all kinds, water, chips, bolognaise sometimes, tomato pasta sauce.He also loves brie and marmite but we try to steer clear of those. I am currently giving yucca with each protein meal and k2 once a day. But is this just going to stop him using the protein properly? If we go back to SCD how do we balance that with high ammonia?Help!Steph x

[Guest guest]

-avocado?, got more to say, but no time now, Josie xxxxx

-- In Autism Treatment , " stephaniesirr " <

mark.grabiec@...> wrote:

>

> Hello

>

> When we did SCD with Tom it definitely helped his gut but he lost

> weight. Now given that we're told to restrict the amount of protein

> he has due to high ammonia and given the choice he would gorge on

> rice cakes which we know feed his yeast and give him dark circles we

> dont know where to turn. What on earth does he eat??

>

> He is very underweight. 42lbs. He's been 42lb for about hte past

> twelve months despite the fact that in that time he's grown about 2

> inches. You can see all his ribs.

>

> We need to get wholesome calories into this boy (and he has the

> appetite of a sparrow). If he's only going to eat a little bit I

> need to make sure that what he does eat is calorific (he runs for

> hours) but not going to complicate his diet/gut/yeast erc.

>

> Things he will eat:

>

> chicken, sardines in tomato sauce, gf anything (but I am having my

> doubts about these commercial gf things), gf pasta (ditto), carrots,

> oranges, rice cakes (in industrial quantities if allowed), juice of

> all kinds, water, chips, bolognaise sometimes, tomato pasta sauce.

>

> He also loves brie and marmite but we try to steer clear of those. I

> am currently giving yucca with each protein meal and k2 once a day.

> But is this just going to stop him using the protein properly? If we

> go back to SCD how do we balance that with high ammonia?

>

> Help!

>

> Steph x

>

[Guest guest]

-avocado?, got more to say, but no time now, Josie xxxxx

-- In Autism Treatment , " stephaniesirr " <

mark.grabiec@...> wrote:

>

> Hello

>

> When we did SCD with Tom it definitely helped his gut but he lost

> weight. Now given that we're told to restrict the amount of protein

> he has due to high ammonia and given the choice he would gorge on

> rice cakes which we know feed his yeast and give him dark circles we

> dont know where to turn. What on earth does he eat??

>

> He is very underweight. 42lbs. He's been 42lb for about hte past

> twelve months despite the fact that in that time he's grown about 2

> inches. You can see all his ribs.

>

> We need to get wholesome calories into this boy (and he has the

> appetite of a sparrow). If he's only going to eat a little bit I

> need to make sure that what he does eat is calorific (he runs for

> hours) but not going to complicate his diet/gut/yeast erc.

>

> Things he will eat:

>

> chicken, sardines in tomato sauce, gf anything (but I am having my

> doubts about these commercial gf things), gf pasta (ditto), carrots,

> oranges, rice cakes (in industrial quantities if allowed), juice of

> all kinds, water, chips, bolognaise sometimes, tomato pasta sauce.

>

> He also loves brie and marmite but we try to steer clear of those. I

> am currently giving yucca with each protein meal and k2 once a day.

> But is this just going to stop him using the protein properly? If we

> go back to SCD how do we balance that with high ammonia?

>

> Help!

>

> Steph x

>

[Guest guest]

Hello Nicola

Rice cakes just seem to make Tom a bit spacey and dark eyed. And

anything he actually craves rather than just wanting makes me

suspicious. And there are times he craves them.

The ammonia fed by protein thing is a Yasko idea that's also

supported I think by Dr Usman. It's at odds with the SCD brigade who

feel that protein heals the gut. Presumably both might be true - high

protein heals the gut but at the expense of high ammonia. I'm

waiting for Tom's uninary amino acids test to arrive from the US to

test whether he actually is high in ammonia. My feeling is that he

is. I can't deny that his gut was in better shape on SCD. It's just

impossible to balance all of these conflicting needs sometimes isn't

it?

Steph x

>

> Hi Steph

>

> I am afraid I do not have any suggestions for you - I wish I did -

still trying to educate myself in all this stuff!!

>

> But couple of things you mentioned interested me. You mentioned

that rice cakes feed his yeast?!! Luke eats 3-4 rice cakes a day and

we are often battling with a yeast problem with him. What is in rice

cakes that feed yeast?

>

> Also you mentioned high ammonia - Luke also has this problem - and

the only thing we have tried is AKA -which doesn't seemed to have

helped at all. Dr H did also suggest royal jelly - which I have

bought but haven't tried yet. But you mention limiting his protein

intake? How restrictive should this be?

>

> Luke has always be a really fussy eater though has improved

recently - so I know what you are going through. It is very

difficult, it was one of the hardest things I had to deal with. I

really wish and Tom you all the best.

>

> Nicola

>

>

>

>

> Diet confusion SCD or LOD or

just Vitamin K2 or ?? for high ammonia

>

>

> Hello

>

> When we did SCD with Tom it definitely helped his gut but he lost

> weight. Now given that we're told to restrict the amount of

protein

> he has due to high ammonia and given the choice he would gorge on

> rice cakes which we know feed his yeast and give him dark circles

we

> dont know where to turn. What on earth does he eat??

>

> He is very underweight. 42lbs. He's been 42lb for about hte past

> twelve months despite the fact that in that time he's grown about

2

> inches. You can see all his ribs.

>

> We need to get wholesome calories into this boy (and he has the

> appetite of a sparrow). If he's only going to eat a little bit I

> need to make sure that what he does eat is calorific (he runs for

> hours) but not going to complicate his diet/gut/yeast erc.

>

> Things he will eat:

>

> chicken, sardines in tomato sauce, gf anything (but I am having

my

> doubts about these commercial gf things), gf pasta (ditto),

carrots,

> oranges, rice cakes (in industrial quantities if allowed), juice

of

> all kinds, water, chips, bolognaise sometimes, tomato pasta sauce.

>

> He also loves brie and marmite but we try to steer clear of

those. I

> am currently giving yucca with each protein meal and k2 once a

day.

> But is this just going to stop him using the protein properly? If

we

> go back to SCD how do we balance that with high ammonia?

>

> Help!

>

> Steph x

>

[Guest guest]

Hello Nicola

Rice cakes just seem to make Tom a bit spacey and dark eyed. And

anything he actually craves rather than just wanting makes me

suspicious. And there are times he craves them.

The ammonia fed by protein thing is a Yasko idea that's also

supported I think by Dr Usman. It's at odds with the SCD brigade who

feel that protein heals the gut. Presumably both might be true - high

protein heals the gut but at the expense of high ammonia. I'm

waiting for Tom's uninary amino acids test to arrive from the US to

test whether he actually is high in ammonia. My feeling is that he

is. I can't deny that his gut was in better shape on SCD. It's just

impossible to balance all of these conflicting needs sometimes isn't

it?

Steph x

>

> Hi Steph

>

> I am afraid I do not have any suggestions for you - I wish I did -

still trying to educate myself in all this stuff!!

>

> But couple of things you mentioned interested me. You mentioned

that rice cakes feed his yeast?!! Luke eats 3-4 rice cakes a day and

we are often battling with a yeast problem with him. What is in rice

cakes that feed yeast?

>

> Also you mentioned high ammonia - Luke also has this problem - and

the only thing we have tried is AKA -which doesn't seemed to have

helped at all. Dr H did also suggest royal jelly - which I have

bought but haven't tried yet. But you mention limiting his protein

intake? How restrictive should this be?

>

> Luke has always be a really fussy eater though has improved

recently - so I know what you are going through. It is very

difficult, it was one of the hardest things I had to deal with. I

really wish and Tom you all the best.

>

> Nicola

>

>

>

>

> Diet confusion SCD or LOD or

just Vitamin K2 or ?? for high ammonia

>

>

> Hello

>

> When we did SCD with Tom it definitely helped his gut but he lost

> weight. Now given that we're told to restrict the amount of

protein

> he has due to high ammonia and given the choice he would gorge on

> rice cakes which we know feed his yeast and give him dark circles

we

> dont know where to turn. What on earth does he eat??

>

> He is very underweight. 42lbs. He's been 42lb for about hte past

> twelve months despite the fact that in that time he's grown about

2

> inches. You can see all his ribs.

>

> We need to get wholesome calories into this boy (and he has the

> appetite of a sparrow). If he's only going to eat a little bit I

> need to make sure that what he does eat is calorific (he runs for

> hours) but not going to complicate his diet/gut/yeast erc.

>

> Things he will eat:

>

> chicken, sardines in tomato sauce, gf anything (but I am having

my

> doubts about these commercial gf things), gf pasta (ditto),

carrots,

> oranges, rice cakes (in industrial quantities if allowed), juice

of

> all kinds, water, chips, bolognaise sometimes, tomato pasta sauce.

>

> He also loves brie and marmite but we try to steer clear of

those. I

> am currently giving yucca with each protein meal and k2 once a

day.

> But is this just going to stop him using the protein properly? If

we

> go back to SCD how do we balance that with high ammonia?

>

> Help!

>

> Steph x

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Steph,

Know how you feel....

We are very restricted and Katy is not growing , on the 3rd centile

for growth.

If I give her food she can't tolerate ,it will make her inflammation

worse.I'm hoping with time and keeping inflammation down she will

start absorbing more.

We give here Avocados ,I feel she tolerates things better if they

are soaked.I make her flour from soaked mung beans and

chestnuts,these are quite starchy.

We are also Low protein,SCD apart form rice occassionally and LOD

which I feel is going to be winner for us.

Sorry not more help.

Love Sharon xx

>

> Hello

>

> When we did SCD with Tom it definitely helped his gut but he lost

> weight. Now given that we're told to restrict the amount of

protein

> he has due to high ammonia and given the choice he would gorge on

> rice cakes which we know feed his yeast and give him dark circles

we

> dont know where to turn. What on earth does he eat??

>

> He is very underweight. 42lbs. He's been 42lb for about hte past

> twelve months despite the fact that in that time he's grown about

2

> inches. You can see all his ribs.

>

> We need to get wholesome calories into this boy (and he has the

> appetite of a sparrow). If he's only going to eat a little bit I

> need to make sure that what he does eat is calorific (he runs for

> hours) but not going to complicate his diet/gut/yeast erc.

>

> Things he will eat:

>

> chicken, sardines in tomato sauce, gf anything (but I am having my

> doubts about these commercial gf things), gf pasta (ditto),

carrots,

> oranges, rice cakes (in industrial quantities if allowed), juice

of

> all kinds, water, chips, bolognaise sometimes, tomato pasta sauce.

>

> He also loves brie and marmite but we try to steer clear of those.

I

> am currently giving yucca with each protein meal and k2 once a

day.

> But is this just going to stop him using the protein properly? If

we

> go back to SCD how do we balance that with high ammonia?

>

> Help!

>

> Steph x

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Steph,

Know how you feel....

We are very restricted and Katy is not growing , on the 3rd centile

for growth.

If I give her food she can't tolerate ,it will make her inflammation

worse.I'm hoping with time and keeping inflammation down she will

start absorbing more.

We give here Avocados ,I feel she tolerates things better if they

are soaked.I make her flour from soaked mung beans and

chestnuts,these are quite starchy.

We are also Low protein,SCD apart form rice occassionally and LOD

which I feel is going to be winner for us.

Sorry not more help.

Love Sharon xx

>

> Hello

>

> When we did SCD with Tom it definitely helped his gut but he lost

> weight. Now given that we're told to restrict the amount of

protein

> he has due to high ammonia and given the choice he would gorge on

> rice cakes which we know feed his yeast and give him dark circles

we

> dont know where to turn. What on earth does he eat??

>

> He is very underweight. 42lbs. He's been 42lb for about hte past

> twelve months despite the fact that in that time he's grown about

2

> inches. You can see all his ribs.

>

> We need to get wholesome calories into this boy (and he has the

> appetite of a sparrow). If he's only going to eat a little bit I

> need to make sure that what he does eat is calorific (he runs for

> hours) but not going to complicate his diet/gut/yeast erc.

>

> Things he will eat:

>

> chicken, sardines in tomato sauce, gf anything (but I am having my

> doubts about these commercial gf things), gf pasta (ditto),

carrots,

> oranges, rice cakes (in industrial quantities if allowed), juice

of

> all kinds, water, chips, bolognaise sometimes, tomato pasta sauce.

>

> He also loves brie and marmite but we try to steer clear of those.

I

> am currently giving yucca with each protein meal and k2 once a

day.

> But is this just going to stop him using the protein properly? If

we

> go back to SCD how do we balance that with high ammonia?

>

> Help!

>

> Steph x

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Steph

Joe had a thing for rice cakes too, would eat 2 packets a day if he

could, and came out as mildly intolerant to rice in a york allergy test

I had done years ago. Apparently this is quite common when you

substitute one food group for another, ie rice for gluten.

I read somewhere rice cakes have the highest G.I. reading you can get,

but I'm not sure of the relevance of this!

When I took Joe off rice cakes I gave him corn cakes instead, but when

he came off corn for SCD two years ago he had the worst withdrawals

ever so I wouldn't recommend that.

I am lucky Joe is quite a big boy and eats all the time but I add

avocado to all his baked foods as it is high fat. Low protein SCD is a

hard one though, I am hoping Joe doesnt have that Yasko mutation. I

think Sharon in Surrey had that result so maybe she has some tips to

pass on.

How is Tom with honey?

[Guest guest]

Any chance that you have links to any of these papers on-line?

Or even abstracts?

I'd be interested in reading these.

Liam

[Guest guest]

Any chance that you have links to any of these papers on-line?

Or even abstracts?

I'd be interested in reading these.

Liam

[Guest guest]

Any chance that you have links to any of these papers on-line?

Or even abstracts?

I'd be interested in reading these.

Liam

[Guest guest]

my son also had a rice cake thing going pre scd, esp those yeast extract ones

( who'ld blame him ) anyway could anyone point me in the right direction to

read more about yasko, in particular the ammonia issue, know nothing about

yasko or ammonia, and my son is scd and having a lot of reflux at the

moment, dont know if the 2 are related but I need to read around a bit, thanks

Josie xxxxxx

>

> Hi Steph

> Joe had a thing for rice cakes too, would eat 2 packets a day if he

> could, and came out as mildly intolerant to rice in a york allergy test

> I had done years ago. Apparently this is quite common when you

> substitute one food group for another, ie rice for gluten.

> I read somewhere rice cakes have the highest G.I. reading you can get,

> but I'm not sure of the relevance of this!

> When I took Joe off rice cakes I gave him corn cakes instead, but when

> he came off corn for SCD two years ago he had the worst withdrawals

> ever so I wouldn't recommend that.

> I am lucky Joe is quite a big boy and eats all the time but I add

> avocado to all his baked foods as it is high fat. Low protein SCD is a

> hard one though, I am hoping Joe doesnt have that Yasko mutation. I

> think Sharon in Surrey had that result so maybe she has some tips to

> pass on.

> How is Tom with honey?

>

>

[Guest guest]

my son also had a rice cake thing going pre scd, esp those yeast extract ones

( who'ld blame him ) anyway could anyone point me in the right direction to

read more about yasko, in particular the ammonia issue, know nothing about

yasko or ammonia, and my son is scd and having a lot of reflux at the

moment, dont know if the 2 are related but I need to read around a bit, thanks

Josie xxxxxx

>

> Hi Steph

> Joe had a thing for rice cakes too, would eat 2 packets a day if he

> could, and came out as mildly intolerant to rice in a york allergy test

> I had done years ago. Apparently this is quite common when you

> substitute one food group for another, ie rice for gluten.

> I read somewhere rice cakes have the highest G.I. reading you can get,

> but I'm not sure of the relevance of this!

> When I took Joe off rice cakes I gave him corn cakes instead, but when

> he came off corn for SCD two years ago he had the worst withdrawals

> ever so I wouldn't recommend that.

> I am lucky Joe is quite a big boy and eats all the time but I add

> avocado to all his baked foods as it is high fat. Low protein SCD is a

> hard one though, I am hoping Joe doesnt have that Yasko mutation. I

> think Sharon in Surrey had that result so maybe she has some tips to

> pass on.

> How is Tom with honey?

>

>

[Guest guest]

my son also had a rice cake thing going pre scd, esp those yeast extract ones

( who'ld blame him ) anyway could anyone point me in the right direction to

read more about yasko, in particular the ammonia issue, know nothing about

yasko or ammonia, and my son is scd and having a lot of reflux at the

moment, dont know if the 2 are related but I need to read around a bit, thanks

Josie xxxxxx

>

> Hi Steph

> Joe had a thing for rice cakes too, would eat 2 packets a day if he

> could, and came out as mildly intolerant to rice in a york allergy test

> I had done years ago. Apparently this is quite common when you

> substitute one food group for another, ie rice for gluten.

> I read somewhere rice cakes have the highest G.I. reading you can get,

> but I'm not sure of the relevance of this!

> When I took Joe off rice cakes I gave him corn cakes instead, but when

> he came off corn for SCD two years ago he had the worst withdrawals

> ever so I wouldn't recommend that.

> I am lucky Joe is quite a big boy and eats all the time but I add

> avocado to all his baked foods as it is high fat. Low protein SCD is a

> hard one though, I am hoping Joe doesnt have that Yasko mutation. I

> think Sharon in Surrey had that result so maybe she has some tips to

> pass on.

> How is Tom with honey?

>

>

[Guest guest]

thank you for this! Just yesterday I had a drink wtih coconut milk,

pineapple and almonds and thought " this could make a smoothie " . I

know coconut milk is meant to be good stuff, I'll give this a go for

the Boy Wonder

> >

> > Hello

> >

> > When we did SCD with Tom it definitely helped his gut but he lost

> > weight. Now given that we're told to restrict the amount of

protein

> > he has due to high ammonia and given the choice he would gorge on

> > rice cakes which we know feed his yeast and give him dark circles

> we

> > dont know where to turn. What on earth does he eat??

> >

> > He is very underweight. 42lbs. He's been 42lb for about hte past

> > twelve months despite the fact that in that time he's grown about

2

> > inches. You can see all his ribs.

> >

> > We need to get wholesome calories into this boy (and he has the

> > appetite of a sparrow). If he's only going to eat a little bit I

> > need to make sure that what he does eat is calorific (he runs for

> > hours) but not going to complicate his diet/gut/yeast erc.

> >

> > Things he will eat:

> >

> > chicken, sardines in tomato sauce, gf anything (but I am having

my

> > doubts about these commercial gf things), gf pasta (ditto),

> carrots,

> > oranges, rice cakes (in industrial quantities if allowed), juice

of

> > all kinds, water, chips, bolognaise sometimes, tomato pasta sauce.

> >

> > He also loves brie and marmite but we try to steer clear of

those.

> I

> > am currently giving yucca with each protein meal and k2 once a

> day.

> > But is this just going to stop him using the protein properly? If

> we

> > go back to SCD how do we balance that with high ammonia?

> >

> > Help!

> >

> > Steph x

> >

>

[Guest guest]

this is something I thought I would try last week, but do be aware that in the

cans of c. milk even the organic barts c. milk they have a few additives which

aren't very nice but the coconut cream has nothing but coconut in ( you just

add water, dead easy! ) best wishes Josie xx

> > >

> > > Hello

> > >

> > > When we did SCD with Tom it definitely helped his gut but he lost

> > > weight. Now given that we're told to restrict the amount of

> protein

> > > he has due to high ammonia and given the choice he would gorge on

> > > rice cakes which we know feed his yeast and give him dark circles

> > we

> > > dont know where to turn. What on earth does he eat??

> > >

> > > He is very underweight. 42lbs. He's been 42lb for about hte past

> > > twelve months despite the fact that in that time he's grown about

> 2

> > > inches. You can see all his ribs.

> > >

> > > We need to get wholesome calories into this boy (and he has the

> > > appetite of a sparrow). If he's only going to eat a little bit I

> > > need to make sure that what he does eat is calorific (he runs for

> > > hours) but not going to complicate his diet/gut/yeast erc.

> > >

> > > Things he will eat:

> > >

> > > chicken, sardines in tomato sauce, gf anything (but I am having

> my

> > > doubts about these commercial gf things), gf pasta (ditto),

> > carrots,

> > > oranges, rice cakes (in industrial quantities if allowed), juice

> of

> > > all kinds, water, chips, bolognaise sometimes, tomato pasta sauce.

> > >

> > > He also loves brie and marmite but we try to steer clear of

> those.

> > I

> > > am currently giving yucca with each protein meal and k2 once a

> > day.

> > > But is this just going to stop him using the protein properly? If

> > we

> > > go back to SCD how do we balance that with high ammonia?

> > >

> > > Help!

> > >

> > > Steph x

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

this is something I thought I would try last week, but do be aware that in the

cans of c. milk even the organic barts c. milk they have a few additives which

aren't very nice but the coconut cream has nothing but coconut in ( you just

add water, dead easy! ) best wishes Josie xx

> > >

> > > Hello

> > >

> > > When we did SCD with Tom it definitely helped his gut but he lost

> > > weight. Now given that we're told to restrict the amount of

> protein

> > > he has due to high ammonia and given the choice he would gorge on

> > > rice cakes which we know feed his yeast and give him dark circles

> > we

> > > dont know where to turn. What on earth does he eat??

> > >

> > > He is very underweight. 42lbs. He's been 42lb for about hte past

> > > twelve months despite the fact that in that time he's grown about

> 2

> > > inches. You can see all his ribs.

> > >

> > > We need to get wholesome calories into this boy (and he has the

> > > appetite of a sparrow). If he's only going to eat a little bit I

> > > need to make sure that what he does eat is calorific (he runs for

> > > hours) but not going to complicate his diet/gut/yeast erc.

> > >

> > > Things he will eat:

> > >

> > > chicken, sardines in tomato sauce, gf anything (but I am having

> my

> > > doubts about these commercial gf things), gf pasta (ditto),

> > carrots,

> > > oranges, rice cakes (in industrial quantities if allowed), juice

> of

> > > all kinds, water, chips, bolognaise sometimes, tomato pasta sauce.

> > >

> > > He also loves brie and marmite but we try to steer clear of

> those.

> > I

> > > am currently giving yucca with each protein meal and k2 once a

> > day.

> > > But is this just going to stop him using the protein properly? If

> > we

> > > go back to SCD how do we balance that with high ammonia?

> > >

> > > Help!

> > >

> > > Steph x

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Yum yum, you are a kitchen goddess. Sure it must be time to ocme back

up to Manchester and see you!

> > >

> > > Hello

> > >

> > > When we did SCD with Tom it definitely helped his gut but he

lost

> > > weight. Now given that we're told to restrict the amount of

> protein

> > > he has due to high ammonia and given the choice he would gorge

on

> > > rice cakes which we know feed his yeast and give him dark

circles

> > we

> > > dont know where to turn. What on earth does he eat??

> > >

> > > He is very underweight. 42lbs. He's been 42lb for about hte

past

> > > twelve months despite the fact that in that time he's grown

about

> 2

> > > inches. You can see all his ribs.

> > >

> > > We need to get wholesome calories into this boy (and he has the

> > > appetite of a sparrow). If he's only going to eat a little bit

I

> > > need to make sure that what he does eat is calorific (he runs

for

> > > hours) but not going to complicate his diet/gut/yeast erc.

> > >

> > > Things he will eat:

> > >

> > > chicken, sardines in tomato sauce, gf anything (but I am having

> my

> > > doubts about these commercial gf things), gf pasta (ditto),

> > carrots,

> > > oranges, rice cakes (in industrial quantities if allowed),

juice

> of

> > > all kinds, water, chips, bolognaise sometimes, tomato pasta

sauce.

> > >

> > > He also loves brie and marmite but we try to steer clear of

> those.

> > I

> > > am currently giving yucca with each protein meal and k2 once a

> > day.

> > > But is this just going to stop him using the protein properly?

If

> > we

> > > go back to SCD how do we balance that with high ammonia?

> > >

> > > Help!

> > >

> > > Steph x

> > >

> >

>