RE: Re: Diet confusion SCD or LOD or just Vitamin K2 or ?? for high ammonia

[Guest guest]

Hi,

Have you tried making your own coconut

milk and using that as a basis for smoothies? Coconut is good for the gut, SCD and if

you blend in avocado and very ripe bananas or cooked pineapple if tolerated

they are great and filling. My NT

child drinks them too. Also there are

some good coconut based recipes and the almond flour muffins are also filling. Only we have to be careful with these as

they can cause constipation in . Also I don’t know how long you were

on SCD but with he stopped being ravenous after about 4-5 months and his

diet has expanded a lot on it. So

much so that most evening meals are SCD and the whole family enjoys them. I never thought I would ever stop making

2 or 3 different meals every dinner time.

Also have you asked for advice on

pecanbread? That is where I learned

about the smoothies etc . Finally we

are also attempting LOD only we are doing it very gradually. At the moment we simply avoid high

oxalate fruit and veg.

Don’t know if this is of any use at

all.

Best of luck

Elaine

From: Autism Treatment [mailto:Autism Treatment ] On Behalf Of Sharon

Sent: 11 December 2006 00:10

Autism Treatment

Subject:

Re: Diet confusion SCD or LOD or just Vitamin K2 or

?? for high ammonia

Hi Steph,

Know how you feel....

We are very restricted and Katy is not growing , on the 3rd centile

for growth.

If I give her food she can't tolerate ,it will make her inflammation

worse.I'm hoping with time and keeping inflammation down she will

start absorbing more.

We give here Avocados ,I feel she tolerates things better if they

are soaked.I make her flour from soaked mung beans and

chestnuts,these are quite starchy.

We are also Low protein,SCD apart form rice occassionally and LOD

which I feel is going to be winner for us.

Sorry not more help.

Love Sharon xx

>

> Hello

>

> When we did SCD with Tom it definitely helped his gut but he lost

> weight. Now given that we're told to restrict the amount of

protein

> he has due to high ammonia and given the choice he would gorge on

> rice cakes which we know feed his yeast and give him dark circles

we

> dont know where to turn. What on earth does he eat??

>

> He is very underweight. 42lbs. He's been 42lb for about hte past

> twelve months despite the fact that in that time he's grown about

2

> inches. You can see all his ribs.

>

> We need to get wholesome calories into this boy (and he has the

> appetite of a sparrow). If he's only going to eat a little bit I

> need to make sure that what he does eat is calorific (he runs for

> hours) but not going to complicate his diet/gut/yeast erc.

>

> Things he will eat:

>

> chicken, sardines in tomato sauce, gf anything (but I am having my

> doubts about these commercial gf things), gf pasta (ditto),

carrots,

> oranges, rice cakes (in industrial quantities if allowed), juice

of

> all kinds, water, chips, bolognaise sometimes, tomato pasta sauce.

>

> He also loves brie and marmite but we try to steer clear of those.

I

> am currently giving yucca with each protein meal and k2 once a

day.

> But is this just going to stop him using the protein properly? If

we

> go back to SCD how do we balance that with high ammonia?

>

> Help!

>

> Steph x

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Coconut also contains MCT which helps with weight gain sharon Gstephaniesirr <mark.grabiec@...> wrote: thank you for this! Just yesterday I had a drink wtih coconut milk, pineapple and almonds and thought "this could make a smoothie". I know coconut milk is meant to be good stuff, I'll give this a go for the Boy Wonder> >> > Hello> > > > When we did SCD with Tom it definitely helped his gut but he lost > > weight. Now given that we're told to restrict the amount of protein > > he has due to high ammonia and given the choice he would gorge on > > rice cakes which we know feed his yeast and give him dark circles > we > > dont know where to turn. What on earth does he eat??> > > > He is very underweight. 42lbs. He's been 42lb for about hte past > > twelve months

despite the fact that in that time he's grown about 2 > > inches. You can see all his ribs. > > > > We need to get wholesome calories into this boy (and he has the > > appetite of a sparrow). If he's only going to eat a little bit I > > need to make sure that what he does eat is calorific (he runs for > > hours) but not going to complicate his diet/gut/yeast erc.> > > > Things he will eat:> > > > chicken, sardines in tomato sauce, gf anything (but I am having my > > doubts about these commercial gf things), gf pasta (ditto), > carrots, > > oranges, rice cakes (in industrial quantities if allowed), juice of > > all kinds, water, chips, bolognaise sometimes, tomato pasta sauce.> > > > He also loves brie and marmite but we try to steer clear of those. > I > > am currently giving yucca with

each protein meal and k2 once a > day. > > But is this just going to stop him using the protein properly? If > we > > go back to SCD how do we balance that with high ammonia?> > > > Help!> > > > Steph x> >> Send instant messages to your online friends http://au.messenger.

[Guest guest]

Hi Coconut also contains MCT which helps with weight gain sharon Gstephaniesirr <mark.grabiec@...> wrote: thank you for this! Just yesterday I had a drink wtih coconut milk, pineapple and almonds and thought "this could make a smoothie". I know coconut milk is meant to be good stuff, I'll give this a go for the Boy Wonder> >> > Hello> > > > When we did SCD with Tom it definitely helped his gut but he lost > > weight. Now given that we're told to restrict the amount of protein > > he has due to high ammonia and given the choice he would gorge on > > rice cakes which we know feed his yeast and give him dark circles > we > > dont know where to turn. What on earth does he eat??> > > > He is very underweight. 42lbs. He's been 42lb for about hte past > > twelve months

despite the fact that in that time he's grown about 2 > > inches. You can see all his ribs. > > > > We need to get wholesome calories into this boy (and he has the > > appetite of a sparrow). If he's only going to eat a little bit I > > need to make sure that what he does eat is calorific (he runs for > > hours) but not going to complicate his diet/gut/yeast erc.> > > > Things he will eat:> > > > chicken, sardines in tomato sauce, gf anything (but I am having my > > doubts about these commercial gf things), gf pasta (ditto), > carrots, > > oranges, rice cakes (in industrial quantities if allowed), juice of > > all kinds, water, chips, bolognaise sometimes, tomato pasta sauce.> > > > He also loves brie and marmite but we try to steer clear of those. > I > > am currently giving yucca with

each protein meal and k2 once a > day. > > But is this just going to stop him using the protein properly? If > we > > go back to SCD how do we balance that with high ammonia?> > > > Help!> > > > Steph x> >> Send instant messages to your online friends http://au.messenger.

[Guest guest]

Hi Steph

Re the coconut theme…..I have

recently been using coconoil for baking and cooking. Check out www.coconoil.com

As you know I am always trying to fatten

up on and have developed a yummy chocolate cake which he is eating a

large

Slice of every day. Yes, it has the dreaded sugar in it but

he has to have something or he will be falling down grids or even cracks in

floorboards!

I use the oil, gluten free flour, green

& black cocoa powder, sugar, gluten free baking powder, and eggs. Comes out really delicious and I have to

fight

The other boys off from having any…..just

the usual shop bought crap for them I am afraid. You could use ground almonds instead of

the flour if you are scd but I always find that the

end product is a little ‘wet’ when I have tried this.

Hope this helps. Give me your address and I will send you

a sample!!

Sally

-----Original

Message-----

From: Autism Treatment

[mailto:Autism Treatment ] On Behalf Of stephaniesirr

Sent: 12 December 2006 22:31

To:

Autism Treatment

Subject:

Re: Diet confusion SCD or LOD or just Vitamin K2 or

?? for high ammonia

thank you for this! Just yesterday I had a drink wtih coconut milk,

pineapple and almonds and thought " this could make a smoothie " . I

know coconut milk is meant to be good stuff, I'll give this a go for

the Boy Wonder

> >

> > Hello

> >

> > When we did SCD with Tom it definitely helped his gut but he lost

> > weight. Now given that we're told to restrict the amount of

protein

> > he has due to high ammonia and given the choice he would gorge on

> > rice cakes which we know feed his yeast and give him dark circles

> we

> > dont know where to turn. What on earth does he eat??

> >

> > He is very underweight. 42lbs. He's been 42lb for about hte past

> > twelve months despite the fact that in that time he's grown about

2

> > inches. You can see all his ribs.

> >

> > We need to get wholesome calories into this boy (and he has the

> > appetite of a sparrow). If he's only going to eat a little bit I

> > need to make sure that what he does eat is calorific (he runs for

> > hours) but not going to complicate his diet/gut/yeast erc.

> >

> > Things he will eat:

> >

> > chicken, sardines in tomato sauce, gf anything (but I am having

my

> > doubts about these commercial gf things), gf pasta (ditto),

> carrots,

> > oranges, rice cakes (in industrial quantities if allowed), juice

of

> > all kinds, water, chips, bolognaise sometimes, tomato pasta sauce.

> >

> > He also loves brie and marmite but we try to steer clear of

those.

> I

> > am currently giving yucca with each protein meal and k2 once a

> day.

> > But is this just going to stop him using the protein properly? If

> we

> > go back to SCD how do we balance that with high ammonia?

> >

> > Help!

> >

> > Steph x

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Steph

Re the coconut theme…..I have

recently been using coconoil for baking and cooking. Check out www.coconoil.com

As you know I am always trying to fatten

up on and have developed a yummy chocolate cake which he is eating a

large

Slice of every day. Yes, it has the dreaded sugar in it but

he has to have something or he will be falling down grids or even cracks in

floorboards!

I use the oil, gluten free flour, green

& black cocoa powder, sugar, gluten free baking powder, and eggs. Comes out really delicious and I have to

fight

The other boys off from having any…..just

the usual shop bought crap for them I am afraid. You could use ground almonds instead of

the flour if you are scd but I always find that the

end product is a little ‘wet’ when I have tried this.

Hope this helps. Give me your address and I will send you

a sample!!

Sally

-----Original

Message-----

From: Autism Treatment

[mailto:Autism Treatment ] On Behalf Of stephaniesirr

Sent: 12 December 2006 22:31

To:

Autism Treatment

Subject:

Re: Diet confusion SCD or LOD or just Vitamin K2 or

?? for high ammonia

thank you for this! Just yesterday I had a drink wtih coconut milk,

pineapple and almonds and thought " this could make a smoothie " . I

know coconut milk is meant to be good stuff, I'll give this a go for

the Boy Wonder

> >

> > Hello

> >

> > When we did SCD with Tom it definitely helped his gut but he lost

> > weight. Now given that we're told to restrict the amount of

protein

> > he has due to high ammonia and given the choice he would gorge on

> > rice cakes which we know feed his yeast and give him dark circles

> we

> > dont know where to turn. What on earth does he eat??

> >

> > He is very underweight. 42lbs. He's been 42lb for about hte past

> > twelve months despite the fact that in that time he's grown about

2

> > inches. You can see all his ribs.

> >

> > We need to get wholesome calories into this boy (and he has the

> > appetite of a sparrow). If he's only going to eat a little bit I

> > need to make sure that what he does eat is calorific (he runs for

> > hours) but not going to complicate his diet/gut/yeast erc.

> >

> > Things he will eat:

> >

> > chicken, sardines in tomato sauce, gf anything (but I am having

my

> > doubts about these commercial gf things), gf pasta (ditto),

> carrots,

> > oranges, rice cakes (in industrial quantities if allowed), juice

of

> > all kinds, water, chips, bolognaise sometimes, tomato pasta sauce.

> >

> > He also loves brie and marmite but we try to steer clear of

those.

> I

> > am currently giving yucca with each protein meal and k2 once a

> day.

> > But is this just going to stop him using the protein properly? If

> we

> > go back to SCD how do we balance that with high ammonia?

> >

> > Help!

> >

> > Steph x

> >

>

[Guest guest]

send us all one. Sounds great

Sally

Sally wrote:

Hi Steph

Re the coconut theme…..I have

recently been using coconoil for baking and cooking. Check

out www.coconoil. com

As you know I am always trying to fatten

up on and have developed a yummy

chocolate cake which he is eating a

large

Slice of every day. Yes, it has the dreaded

sugar in it but

he has to have something or he will be falling down grids or even

cracks in

floorboards!

I use the oil, gluten free flour, green

& black cocoa powder, sugar, gluten free baking powder, and eggs.

Comes out really delicious and I have to

fight

The other boys off from having any…..just

the usual shop bought crap for them I am afraid. You

could use ground almonds instead of

the flour if you are scd but I always find that the

end product is a little ‘wet’ when I have tried this.

Hope this helps. Give me your address and I

will send you

a sample!!

Sally

-----Original

Message-----

From: Autism-Biomedical- Europe@grou ps.com

[mailto:Autism- Biomedical- Europe@grou ps.com] On

Behalf Of stephaniesirr

Sent: 12 December 2006 22:31

To:

Autism-Biomedical- Europe@grou ps.com

Subject:

Re: Diet confusion SCD or LOD or just

Vitamin K2 or

?? for high ammonia

thank you for this! Just yesterday I had a drink wtih

coconut milk,

pineapple and almonds and thought "this could make a smoothie". I

know coconut milk is meant to be good stuff, I'll give this a go for

the Boy Wonder

> >

> > Hello

> >

> > When we did SCD with Tom it definitely helped his gut but he

lost

> > weight. Now given that we're told to restrict the amount of

protein

> > he has due to high ammonia and given the choice he would

gorge on

> > rice cakes which we know feed his yeast and give him dark

circles

> we

> > dont know where to turn. What on earth does he eat??

> >

> > He is very underweight. 42lbs. He's been 42lb for about hte

past

> > twelve months despite the fact that in that time he's grown

about

2

> > inches. You can see all his ribs.

> >

> > We need to get wholesome calories into this boy (and he has

the

> > appetite of a sparrow). If he's only going to eat a little

bit I

> > need to make sure that what he does eat is calorific (he runs

for

> > hours) but not going to complicate his diet/gut/yeast erc.

> >

> > Things he will eat:

> >

> > chicken, sardines in tomato sauce, gf anything (but I am

having

my

> > doubts about these commercial gf things), gf pasta (ditto),

> carrots,

> > oranges, rice cakes (in industrial quantities if allowed),

juice

of

> > all kinds, water, chips, bolognaise sometimes, tomato pasta

sauce.

> >

> > He also loves brie and marmite but we try to steer clear of

those.

> I

> > am currently giving yucca with each protein meal and k2 once

a

> day.

> > But is this just going to stop him using the protein

properly? If

> we

> > go back to SCD how do we balance that with high ammonia?

> >

> > Help!

> >

> > Steph x

> >

>

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[Guest guest]

send us all one. Sounds great

Sally

Sally wrote:

Hi Steph

Re the coconut theme…..I have

recently been using coconoil for baking and cooking. Check

out www.coconoil. com

As you know I am always trying to fatten

up on and have developed a yummy

chocolate cake which he is eating a

large

Slice of every day. Yes, it has the dreaded

sugar in it but

he has to have something or he will be falling down grids or even

cracks in

floorboards!

I use the oil, gluten free flour, green

& black cocoa powder, sugar, gluten free baking powder, and eggs.

Comes out really delicious and I have to

fight

The other boys off from having any…..just

the usual shop bought crap for them I am afraid. You

could use ground almonds instead of

the flour if you are scd but I always find that the

end product is a little ‘wet’ when I have tried this.

Hope this helps. Give me your address and I

will send you

a sample!!

Sally

-----Original

Message-----

From: Autism-Biomedical- Europe@grou ps.com

[mailto:Autism- Biomedical- Europe@grou ps.com] On

Behalf Of stephaniesirr

Sent: 12 December 2006 22:31

To:

Autism-Biomedical- Europe@grou ps.com

Subject:

Re: Diet confusion SCD or LOD or just

Vitamin K2 or

?? for high ammonia

thank you for this! Just yesterday I had a drink wtih

coconut milk,

pineapple and almonds and thought "this could make a smoothie". I

know coconut milk is meant to be good stuff, I'll give this a go for

the Boy Wonder

> >

> > Hello

> >

> > When we did SCD with Tom it definitely helped his gut but he

lost

> > weight. Now given that we're told to restrict the amount of

protein

> > he has due to high ammonia and given the choice he would

gorge on

> > rice cakes which we know feed his yeast and give him dark

circles

> we

> > dont know where to turn. What on earth does he eat??

> >

> > He is very underweight. 42lbs. He's been 42lb for about hte

past

> > twelve months despite the fact that in that time he's grown

about

2

> > inches. You can see all his ribs.

> >

> > We need to get wholesome calories into this boy (and he has

the

> > appetite of a sparrow). If he's only going to eat a little

bit I

> > need to make sure that what he does eat is calorific (he runs

for

> > hours) but not going to complicate his diet/gut/yeast erc.

> >

> > Things he will eat:

> >

> > chicken, sardines in tomato sauce, gf anything (but I am

having

my

> > doubts about these commercial gf things), gf pasta (ditto),

> carrots,

> > oranges, rice cakes (in industrial quantities if allowed),

juice

of

> > all kinds, water, chips, bolognaise sometimes, tomato pasta

sauce.

> >

> > He also loves brie and marmite but we try to steer clear of

those.

> I

> > am currently giving yucca with each protein meal and k2 once

a

> day.

> > But is this just going to stop him using the protein

properly? If

> we

> > go back to SCD how do we balance that with high ammonia?

> >

> > Help!

> >

> > Steph x

> >

>

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I realise that I meant -- post the recipe. Sounds great

Sally

Eva family wrote:

send us all one. Sounds great

Sally

Sally wrote:

Hi Steph

Re the coconut theme…..I have

recently been using coconoil for baking and cooking. Check

out www.coconoil. com

As you know I am always trying to fatten

up on and have developed a yummy

chocolate cake which he is eating a

large

Slice of every day. Yes, it has the

dreaded

sugar in it but

he has to have something or he will be falling down grids or even

cracks in

floorboards!

I use the oil, gluten free flour, green

& black cocoa powder, sugar, gluten free baking powder, and eggs.

Comes out really delicious and I have to

fight

The other boys off from having any…..just

the usual shop bought crap for them I am afraid. You

could use ground almonds instead of

the flour if you are scd but I always find that the

end product is a little ‘wet’ when I have tried this.

Hope this helps. Give me your address and

I

will send you

a sample!!

Sally

-----Original

Message-----

From: Autism-Biomedical- Europe@grou

ps.com

[mailto:Autism- Biomedical-

Europe@grou ps.com] On

Behalf Of stephaniesirr

Sent: 12 December 2006 22:31

To:

Autism-Biomedical- Europe@grou ps.com

Subject:

Re: Diet confusion SCD or LOD or just

Vitamin K2 or

?? for high ammonia

thank you for this! Just yesterday I had a drink wtih

coconut milk,

pineapple and almonds and thought "this could make a smoothie". I

know coconut milk is meant to be good stuff, I'll give this a go for

the Boy Wonder

> >

> > Hello

> >

> > When we did SCD with Tom it definitely helped his gut but he

lost

> > weight. Now given that we're told to restrict the amount of

protein

> > he has due to high ammonia and given the choice he would

gorge on

> > rice cakes which we know feed his yeast and give him dark

circles

> we

> > dont know where to turn. What on earth does he eat??

> >

> > He is very underweight. 42lbs. He's been 42lb for about hte

past

> > twelve months despite the fact that in that time he's grown

about

2

> > inches. You can see all his ribs.

> >

> > We need to get wholesome calories into this boy (and he has

the

> > appetite of a sparrow). If he's only going to eat a little

bit I

> > need to make sure that what he does eat is calorific (he runs

for

> > hours) but not going to complicate his diet/gut/yeast erc.

> >

> > Things he will eat:

> >

> > chicken, sardines in tomato sauce, gf anything (but I am

having

my

> > doubts about these commercial gf things), gf pasta (ditto),

> carrots,

> > oranges, rice cakes (in industrial quantities if allowed),

juice

of

> > all kinds, water, chips, bolognaise sometimes, tomato pasta

sauce.

> >

> > He also loves brie and marmite but we try to steer clear of

those.

> I

> > am currently giving yucca with each protein meal and k2 once

a

> day.

> > But is this just going to stop him using the protein

properly? If

> we

> > go back to SCD how do we balance that with high ammonia?

> >

> > Help!

> >

> > Steph x

> >

>

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I realise that I meant -- post the recipe. Sounds great

Sally

Eva family wrote:

send us all one. Sounds great

Sally

Sally wrote:

Hi Steph

Re the coconut theme…..I have

recently been using coconoil for baking and cooking. Check

out www.coconoil. com

As you know I am always trying to fatten

up on and have developed a yummy

chocolate cake which he is eating a

large

Slice of every day. Yes, it has the

dreaded

sugar in it but

he has to have something or he will be falling down grids or even

cracks in

floorboards!

I use the oil, gluten free flour, green

& black cocoa powder, sugar, gluten free baking powder, and eggs.

Comes out really delicious and I have to

fight

The other boys off from having any…..just

the usual shop bought crap for them I am afraid. You

could use ground almonds instead of

the flour if you are scd but I always find that the

end product is a little ‘wet’ when I have tried this.

Hope this helps. Give me your address and

I

will send you

a sample!!

Sally

-----Original

Message-----

From: Autism-Biomedical- Europe@grou

ps.com

[mailto:Autism- Biomedical-

Europe@grou ps.com] On

Behalf Of stephaniesirr

Sent: 12 December 2006 22:31

To:

Autism-Biomedical- Europe@grou ps.com

Subject:

Re: Diet confusion SCD or LOD or just

Vitamin K2 or

?? for high ammonia

thank you for this! Just yesterday I had a drink wtih

coconut milk,

pineapple and almonds and thought "this could make a smoothie". I

know coconut milk is meant to be good stuff, I'll give this a go for

the Boy Wonder

> >

> > Hello

> >

> > When we did SCD with Tom it definitely helped his gut but he

lost

> > weight. Now given that we're told to restrict the amount of

protein

> > he has due to high ammonia and given the choice he would

gorge on

> > rice cakes which we know feed his yeast and give him dark

circles

> we

> > dont know where to turn. What on earth does he eat??

> >

> > He is very underweight. 42lbs. He's been 42lb for about hte

past

> > twelve months despite the fact that in that time he's grown

about

2

> > inches. You can see all his ribs.

> >

> > We need to get wholesome calories into this boy (and he has

the

> > appetite of a sparrow). If he's only going to eat a little

bit I

> > need to make sure that what he does eat is calorific (he runs

for

> > hours) but not going to complicate his diet/gut/yeast erc.

> >

> > Things he will eat:

> >

> > chicken, sardines in tomato sauce, gf anything (but I am

having

my

> > doubts about these commercial gf things), gf pasta (ditto),

> carrots,

> > oranges, rice cakes (in industrial quantities if allowed),

juice

of

> > all kinds, water, chips, bolognaise sometimes, tomato pasta

sauce.

> >

> > He also loves brie and marmite but we try to steer clear of

those.

> I

> > am currently giving yucca with each protein meal and k2 once

a

> day.

> > But is this just going to stop him using the protein

properly? If

> we

> > go back to SCD how do we balance that with high ammonia?

> >

> > Help!

> >

> > Steph x

> >

>

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