colostrum

January 7, 2001

Hi everyone,

Just a question for any one who would like to answer. I am preparing

my son for chelation with supplements. I read a great article on

colostrum and decided to use it. I started a few days ago and the

results have been remarklable. My understanding from the article is

that is has many vitamin, C,D,E, B1,B2,B3,B6,B12,B13,biotin, folic

acid, and many minerals, calcium,iron,manganese,phosphorus,potassium,

copper iodine, magnesium, choline, cobalt chromium, and selenium. It

also includes lysine, arginine, trytophan, leucine and glutathione.

It also raises the serotonin level in the brain. Some of the things

have been contoversial, such as glutathione, copper, (which my son is

high in)Iron which I know it has been recommended that the children

take a vitamin supp. without copper and Iron. It doesn't give exact

amounts of these on the back of the bottle. This was something I read

in the article. Can any one give me their thoughts. Positive or not

so positive will be fine. This has really made some neat changes for

my son. I hope they last.Thanks Leah

I have seen some on another list who say they've had good

experience with colostrum for autism treatment. I'm aware its

effective for a lot of other immune related conditions.

for someone with high copper, its usually good to reduce copper

levels through

zinc supplementation before doing chelation, etc.

And be aware that colostrum is a bovine milk product, so some may

have trouble

digesting the casein.

Bernie

January 8, 2001

Krkman's states that their colostrum product is casein free.

Vicky Debold

[ ] re: colostrum

>

> Hi everyone,

> Just a question for any one who would like to answer. I am preparing

> my son for chelation with supplements. I read a great article on

> colostrum and decided to use it. I started a few days ago and the

> results have been remarklable. My understanding from the article is

> that is has many vitamin, C,D,E, B1,B2,B3,B6,B12,B13,biotin, folic

> acid, and many minerals, calcium,iron,manganese,phosphorus,potassium,

> copper iodine, magnesium, choline, cobalt chromium, and selenium. It

> also includes lysine, arginine, trytophan, leucine and glutathione.

> It also raises the serotonin level in the brain. Some of the things

> have been contoversial, such as glutathione, copper, (which my son is

> high in)Iron which I know it has been recommended that the children

> take a vitamin supp. without copper and Iron. It doesn't give exact

> amounts of these on the back of the bottle. This was something I read

> in the article. Can any one give me their thoughts. Positive or not

> so positive will be fine. This has really made some neat changes for

> my son. I hope they last.Thanks Leah

>

> I have seen some on another list who say they've had good

> experience with colostrum for autism treatment. I'm aware its

> effective for a lot of other immune related conditions.

> for someone with high copper, its usually good to reduce copper

> levels through

> zinc supplementation before doing chelation, etc.

> And be aware that colostrum is a bovine milk product, so some may

> have trouble

> digesting the casein.

> Bernie

>

October 27, 2005

>

> The source that I recently found for raw dairy sells colostrum. I

don't know much about it but it sure had a wonderful yellow color. I

am wondering if it might be of benefit to me in my fight against lyme

disease and if I can drink it despite a problem with cows milk.(I am

consuming raw goats). Feedback is appreciated.

>

Phil,

what is the problem with cow's milk? if it is a mucus problem, the

colostrum will be even more aggravating than regular milk.

B.

October 27, 2005

I wouldn't disregard colostrum if it is raw. I would try the raw cow's

milk first to see if you have a reaction. Many people with the " mucus "

reaction are just fine with raw milks.

Re: Re: Colostrum

The cows milk is most mucus forming. However I have not tried the raw

cows milk yet. So that may be OK but if not them I guess by your

repsponse I can forget about the colostrum.

Phil

June 28, 2006

Hi ,

Have you looked into human milk? It's extremely powerful and is being

used in scientific research to treat many diseases, including cancer.

Obviously it's effective without the step of injecting the blood.

I do think that you should look at strengthening your overall immunity

rather than fighting a disease...after all, cancer is just the body's

own cells acting out of harmony with the body. Increasing the body's

strength and harmony means the out of balance cells are fewer and can

be brought back to harmony/cooperation. What strengthens the body (pure

water, fresh high quality food) automatically also works against cancer

On Jun 27, 2006, at 7:42 PM, Parashis wrote:

>

> Has anyone heard Jerry Burnetti's tape about how he has beaten

> lymphoma?

>

> One of the things he did was to drink colostrum from a cow that had

> been injected with his blood several times during her dry period. The

> cow built a lot of immunities against his cancer and whatever else was

> lurking in his body and then when she had her calf he was sent the

> colostrum from the first day when the antibodies are present.

>

> It was a procedure here but has been banned. I think it is available

> in

> Germany. Does anybody know where to contact someone there? Does anyone

> know how to contact someone here?

>

> I would like to have some for myself to fight breast cancer from

> coming

> back and whatever else is making me so fatigued.

>

> Thanks for any tips.

>

June 28, 2006

,

I don't know much about Jerry Brunetti's cure, but have heard of

some others, if you're interested.

I've been reading up on artemisinin because it's useful in treating

the co-infections of lyme disease, but they're doing some really

amazing research on it for cancer. It kills cancer cells by

exploding them, same way it kills parasites. It's drawn to iron-

rich cells (but not hemoglobin) and leaves the rest unharmed. It's

really hard to find good studies on the internet about it, I've been

emailed some but have lost them. They are looking at it as a

possibility for breast cancer prevention because of it's ability to

kill cancer cells on contact; in less than 24 hours! You can see

some articles at www.holleypharma.com. The best ones, like where a

woman took it for a week and her open oozing breast tumor was

completely healed a month later, are out of India and artemisinin is

mis-spelled in those articles.

Another thing to look into is amygdalin, which is good for

preventing cancer and is just a food nutrient. www.curezone.com

tells the story.

Dr. Rath has a combination therapy of vitamin C, green tea extract,

and a couple of other nutrients that prevents cancer from being able

to grow and isn't harmful to take. You can google Matthias Rath.

He's an arrogant egotist, so some don't like him, but otherwise

seems to be a solid, good guy.

Increasing the blood oxygen and decreasing the acidity of the blood

are believed to be effective in stopping cancer; there's a therapy

(I think it may be illegal in the US because it hasn't been

evaluated by the FDA) that uses ozone iv's to immediately increase

blood oxygenation and alkalinity. I don't know much about it other

than a guy in Philly used to be a big advocate but has disappeared.

There are people in the US who get ozone iv's so there must be some

sort of underground where you can get them.

Last, there are a few Rife groups on . Rife is the name

of a man who invented a machine that kills cancer using ultrasonic

frequencies. The key there is to get a machine that works and then

to find out which frequency to use; people on the groups share their

stories about the machines/frequencies.

I lost a friend to cancer two years ago and since then have had my

antenna up for cures; and have found half a dozen that look pretty

good.

Hope this helps!

- Renate

>

> Has anyone heard Jerry Burnetti's tape about how he has beaten

lymphoma?

>

> One of the things he did was to drink colostrum from a cow that had

> been injected with his blood several times during her dry period.

The

> cow built a lot of immunities against his cancer and whatever else

was

> lurking in his body and then when she had her calf he was sent the

> colostrum from the first day when the antibodies are present.

>

> It was a procedure here but has been banned. I think it is

available in

> Germany. Does anybody know where to contact someone there? Does

anyone

> know how to contact someone here?

>

> I would like to have some for myself to fight breast cancer from

coming

> back and whatever else is making me so fatigued.

>

> Thanks for any tips.

>

June 28, 2006

Sorry I gave you a wrong website, it's not curezone it's

http://www.cancure.org/home.htm It lists doctors who use alternative

methods to treat cancer as well, which is nice!

June 30, 2006

I read an article about Brunetti's ordeal with cancer. Fascinating!

If I were dealing with a diagnosis of cancer, I would look into what

Doug Kaufmann recommends. His web site is

http://www.knowthecause.com and he has some books out, as well as a

TV show.

The main thrust of his discussion is that, many times, when they call

something cancer, it might in reality be a fungal infection.

Cancer and fungus both thrive under the same conditions, so doing

antifungal things in terms of lifestyle, diet, supplements, and meds

can be helpful in knocking out cancer.

Beyond that, I would consider what Dr. Hamer has documented, and also

how Craig's EFT might be helpful. Hamer's work helps us

understand what emotional traumas might have contributed to the

development of the cancer, and Craig's EFT is a way of treating

emotional issues.

One of the sites devoted to Hamer's work is

http://www.newmedicine.ca , and I especially like this page

http://www.mrbean.net.au/~wlast/hamer.html . Craig's site is

http://www.emofree.com .

There is also a list on that deals with EFT in relation to

cancer:

EFT-Cancer-Study-Group/join

I lost my parents to cancer treatment, so I've kind of kept an ear to

the ground with respect to alternative/adjunct treatments.

Oh, one more thing--I would look into the possibility that I might be

subclinically hypothyroid. I like this site best for that, though

there are other good ones:

http://www.wilsonstemperaturesyndrome.com .

Here is a site that has a fascinating article about the connection

between hypothyroidism and malignant disease:

http://www.thyroidhistory.net/thyroidhistory.net/index.asp

Choose " Cancers " from the pop-up menu on the left, then click in the

long list of articles that comes up, and search for " BRITISH JOURNAL

OF CANCER 8:393-411, 1954 " in the long list of articles.

>

> Has anyone heard Jerry Burnetti's tape about how he has beaten

lymphoma?

>

> One of the things he did was to drink colostrum from a cow that had

> been injected with his blood several times during her dry period.

The

> cow built a lot of immunities against his cancer and whatever else

was

> lurking in his body and then when she had her calf he was sent the

> colostrum from the first day when the antibodies are present.

>

> It was a procedure here but has been banned. I think it is

available in

> Germany. Does anybody know where to contact someone there? Does

anyone

> know how to contact someone here?

>

> I would like to have some for myself to fight breast cancer from

coming

> back and whatever else is making me so fatigued.

>

> Thanks for any tips.

>

July 2, 2006

On 6/27/06, Parashis <artpages@...> wrote:

> One of the things he did was to drink colostrum from a cow that had

> been injected with his blood several times during her dry period. The

> cow built a lot of immunities against his cancer and whatever else was

> lurking in his body and then when she had her calf he was sent the

> colostrum from the first day when the antibodies are present.

>

> It was a procedure here but has been banned. I think it is available in

> Germany. Does anybody know where to contact someone there? Does anyone

> know how to contact someone here?

,

Do you know why it is banned? It sounds potentially dangerous to me.

The cow could also make antibodies to his own cells -- although I

suppose they wouldn't persist since they are the cow's antibodies and

not being produced in his body.

Chris

--

The Truth About Cholesterol

Find Out What Your Doctor Isn't Telling You:

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July 2, 2006

On 6/28/06, haecklers <haecklers@...> wrote:

> They are looking at it as a

> possibility for breast cancer prevention because of it's ability to

> kill cancer cells on contact; in less than 24 hours!

Vitamin A is a potent inhibitor of human breast cancer cell proliferation.

Chris

--

The Truth About Cholesterol

Find Out What Your Doctor Isn't Telling You:

http://www.cholesterol-and-health.com

July 2, 2006

On 6/30/06, <toyotaokiec@...> wrote:

> Cancer and fungus both thrive under the same conditions, so doing

> antifungal things in terms of lifestyle, diet, supplements, and meds

> can be helpful in knocking out cancer.

Good point! I haven't read Kaufman yet, but from what I've been

reading, I believe a hyperketogenic diet would probably be a very good

treatment for many cancers (there are some successful trials with it),

especially with animal fats emphasized.

Most cancer cells have a defective carnitine system, which means they

can't burn long-chain fats for fuel. On the other hand, they LOVE

sugar, so carbs feed them preferentially. The long-chain saturated

fats that cannot be burnt are toxic to them, because they basically

start accumulating at a certain part of the mitochondria where they

have to be used for things that unsaturated fats should be used for,

and the cells wind up committing suicide.

So a ketogenic diet (hyperketogenic would be severe carb and

protein-restriction with 90% fat, but you can do more mild forms too)

with a specific emphasis on long-chain saturated fat would, I would

think, be helpful.

This is based on a handful of studies I've seen. I downloaded a lot

of research to investigate this possibility more thoroughly but

haven't gotten a chance to read it all yet.

Chris

--

The Truth About Cholesterol

Find Out What Your Doctor Isn't Telling You:

http://www.cholesterol-and-health.com

July 2, 2006

" Masterjohn " :

> but from what I've been

> reading, I believe a hyperketogenic diet would probably be a very

> good treatment for many cancers (there are some successful trials

> with it),

> especially with animal fats emphasized.

I completely agree! A ketogenic diet is one, if not the most powerful

weapons against cancer. There are many studies which confirm this.

You may be interested also in Intermittent Fasting studies. Make a

google search for ¨Intermittent Fasting¨, which shows the benefits of

caloric restriction but without the need of restricting calories.

There are also studies on humans, not only in lab animals, who

improved their aging biomarkers by doing IF.

J. M. Escalante

July 2, 2006

Excerpt from article in my AM mail.

Novel Connection Found Between Biological Clock and Cancer

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2006/06/060630100044.htm

The team of Loros and Dunlap were among to first to delineate the intricate

web of clockwork genes, proteins and feedback loops that drive circadian

rhythms, working chiefly in the classic genetic model organism Neurospora, the

common bread mold.

One gene (period-4) was identified over 25 years ago by a mutation that

affects two clock properties, shortening the circadian period and altering

temperature compensation. For this study, the researchers cloned the gene based

on its position in the genome, and found it was an important cell cycle

regulator. When they eliminated the gene from the genome, the clock was normal,

indicating that the mutation interfered in some way with the clock, rather than

supplying something that the clock normally needs to run.

Wanita

On 6/30/06, wrote:

> Cancer and fungus both thrive under the same conditions, so doing

> antifungal things in terms of lifestyle, diet, supplements, and meds

> can be helpful in knocking out cancer.

Good point! I haven't read Kaufman yet, but from what I've been

reading, I believe a hyperketogenic diet would probably be a very good

treatment for many cancers (there are some successful trials with it),

especially with animal fats emphasized.

Most cancer cells have a defective carnitine system, which means they

can't burn long-chain fats for fuel. On the other hand, they LOVE

sugar, so carbs feed them preferentially. The long-chain saturated

fats that cannot be burnt are toxic to them, because they basically

start accumulating at a certain part of the mitochondria where they

have to be used for things that unsaturated fats should be used for,

and the cells wind up committing suicide.

So a ketogenic diet (hyperketogenic would be severe carb and

protein-restriction with 90% fat, but you can do more mild forms too)

with a specific emphasis on long-chain saturated fat would, I would

think, be helpful.

This is based on a handful of studies I've seen. I downloaded a lot

of research to investigate this possibility more thoroughly but

haven't gotten a chance to read it all yet.

Chris

July 3, 2006

No but it is one of the things I would like to find out if I ever get

his direct email.

ELizabeth

On Jul 2, 2006, at 6:47 AM, Masterjohn wrote:

> Do you know why it is banned?

Parashis

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July 24, 2006

is this the same as csm?

hope I researched the right name, heard it was for horses and its being

used for weight loss. it is for astma, opening the airways and for

energy. sounds like it could help the mcs. news said it may not be safe

but neither is mcs attacks. and I wonder if their just trying to stop a

good thing, might take away from sales of other drugs. Im not saying it

is safe either, dont know much about it. they said its the big rage in

lA for fast weight loss, flushes out fat cells. a dose limit is not

known for humans, but theres a lot about it on the web. I wonder if its

put in horse food to deal with the mycotoxicosis they get from eating

moldy hay and grain.

http://www.buyamag.com/horse_racing_performance.php

the horse medicine,

http://cancerchoices.com/colostrum.htm

http://www.colostruminfo.com/

http://www.lalecheleague.org/FAQ/colostrum.html

http://www.awcs.com.au/

July 24, 2006

CSM is short for Cholestyramine. On my patient info card it states it is

commonly used to lower cholesterol, also used to treat itching and diarrhea.

I'm

sure it would work on animals as well.

Sue

I know where it comes from, I was breast fed and breast fed my

daughters, I dont think the effects of that last for ever, just gives

you a healty start on life. I was wondering if anyone had tried it.

maybe I will look for the abstract studies on it and see what they

say. I was trying to remember what the name for csm was, but

remembering now that its for clorestoral, clorestermine? is that the

name?

July 25, 2006

Jeanine,

CSM is Cholestyramine. That's the generic name.

The Brand name is Questran.

Barb E.

--- who <jeaninem660@...> wrote:

> I know where it comes from, I was breast fed and

> breast fed my

> daughters, I dont think the effects of that last for

> ever, just gives

> you a healty start on life. I was wondering if

> anyone had tried it.

> maybe I will look for the abstract studies on it and

> see what they

> say. I was trying to remember what the name for csm

> was, but

> remembering now that its for clorestoral,

> clorestermine? is that the

> name?

>

> is

> this the same as csm?

> > hope I researched the right name, heard it was

> for horses and its

> being

> > used for weight loss. it is for astma, opening

> the airways and for

> > energy. sounds like it could help the mcs. news

> said it may not be

> safe

> > but neither is mcs attacks. and I wonder if their

> just trying to

> stop a

> > good thing, might take away from sales of other

> drugs. Im not

> saying it

> > is safe either, dont know much about it. they

> said its the big

> rage in

> > lA for fast weight loss, flushes out fat cells. a

> dose limit is

> not

> > known for humans, but theres a lot about it on

> the web. I wonder

> if its

> > put in horse food to deal with the mycotoxicosis

> they get from

> eating

> > moldy hay and grain.

> >

> http://www.buyamag.com/horse_racing_performance.php

> > the horse medicine,

> >

> > http://cancerchoices.com/colostrum.htm

> >

> > http://www.colostruminfo.com/

> >

> > http://www.lalecheleague.org/FAQ/colostrum.html

> >

> > http://www.awcs.com.au/

> >

> > ---------------------------------

> > Do you ?

> > Next-gen email? Have it all with the all-new

> Beta.

> >

> > [Non-text portions of this message have been

> removed]

> >

>

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July 25, 2006

If you google colostrum and cholestyramine (often referred to as CSM), you

will find that they are very different products.

See, for example, the listing for colostrum at Wilkipedia

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colostrum

and the listing for cholestyramine at a standard drug database

http://www.rxlist.com/cgi/generic3/cholestyramine.htm

Cholestyramine was originally prescribed to bind and flush cholesterol from

the body, but it also binds biotoxins, including mold toxins, Lyme Disease

toxins, marine plankton toxins, and spider bite toxins, so that they can be

flushed from the body.

Cholestyramine requires a prescription at the drug store. Some people are

able to tolerate it and some are not. For some who tolerate it, it seems to

have been very, very helpful after a biotoxin exposure; for others who

tolerate it, the benefits are not as striking or not as immediate.

Colostrum can usually be found at your closest health food store, as a

powder or as powder in gelatin capsules. With additional preparation and

refining, one can get transfer factors from colostrum. If one is in very

fragile health, too much of either product (colostrum or transfer factor)

can push the immune system too hard and stress the body.

July 25, 2006

COLOSTRUM IS THE FIRST MILK EXCRETED AFTER BIRTH--DIFFERENT THAN CHOLESTERAMINE.

TOTALLYYYYYYYY DIFFERENT SUBSTANCES.

V.

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