Guest guest Posted February 2, 2003 Report Share Posted February 2, 2003 go to groups hit edit groups and u will see all your groups and hit no email From: [mailto: jr31655@...] candidiasis Date: Sat, 1 Feb 2003 23:55:04 EST Subject: help again!!!! <html><body> <tt> how do i block these e-mails?....what address do i put in...please help<BR> <BR> <BR> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 12, 2006 Report Share Posted July 12, 2006 The problem you will find is that 99% of doctors don't know what to test for. Standard blood tests do not find mold illnesses. They will run there " standard " tests and they will all come back normal. (At least in my case they did). I would get them to at least write you a prescription for cholestyramine. You can read all about it in this group. Next, order 2 copies of the book Mold Warriors (from www.moldwarriors.com). Read one and give one to your doctor. That should get you started on the path to recovery, and educate your doctor too... > > I am just CERTAIN I have black mold in me. However, NO DOCTOR IN THIS > TOWN will test me!!! They either say they don't want to get involved > or they don't have the capabilities! I have explained that it's NOT > about 'getting involved' but HELPING ME GET WELL. I am at my wits > end and this is taking a toll on me. Any suggestions????? > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 12, 2006 Report Share Posted July 12, 2006 get yourself tested. moldsurvivors.com has a list of doctors who treat. 4 who come to mind are Dr. Grey in AZ, Dr. Shoemaker in Md, Dr. in TX and Dr. Rea in Dallas TX. They can use the Immunosciences tests for molds. they are expensive tests. in the meantime, obtain mold plates and test your home, office, car, etc. and move immediatlely if you think you contracted the mold at your residence. don't take anything with you.. medlin_minnie <medlin_minnie@...> wrote: I am just CERTAIN I have black mold in me. However, NO DOCTOR IN THIS TOWN will test me!!! They either say they don't want to get involved or they don't have the capabilities! I have explained that it's NOT about 'getting involved' but HELPING ME GET WELL. I am at my wits end and this is taking a toll on me. Any suggestions????? --------------------------------- Want to be your own boss? Learn how on Small Business. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 12, 2006 Report Share Posted July 12, 2006 Thank you, , for the information. I shall put it to good use! nippernine09 <nipper_nine@...> wrote: The problem you will find is that 99% of doctors don't know what to test for. Standard blood tests do not find mold illnesses. They will run there " standard " tests and they will all come back normal. (At least in my case they did). I would get them to at least write you a prescription for cholestyramine. You can read all about it in this group. Next, order 2 copies of the book Mold Warriors (from www.moldwarriors.com). Read one and give one to your doctor. That should get you started on the path to recovery, and educate your doctor too... > > I am just CERTAIN I have black mold in me. However, NO DOCTOR IN THIS > TOWN will test me!!! They either say they don't want to get involved > or they don't have the capabilities! I have explained that it's NOT > about 'getting involved' but HELPING ME GET WELL. I am at my wits > end and this is taking a toll on me. Any suggestions????? > --------------------------------- Sneak preview the all-new .com. It's not radically different. Just radically better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 12, 2006 Report Share Posted July 12, 2006 Here are clinical signs of having a black mold infection. Do you have these? " Black molds cause a wide variety of diseases. If these fungi get into breaks in the skin, they can form large warts or or cauliflower-like lesions in the skin. They can also cause areas of swelling and redness that may constantly leak fluid and be associated with pain and discomfort. Other molds may infect toenails or fingernails causing discoloration and cracking. " Patients with defects in immunity (for example organ transplant patients receiving immunosuppressing agents to prevent rejection) may inhale these fungi and develop severe pneumonia. These molds can also become lodged in the air sinuses and cause sinusitis that fails to improve with antibiotic and decongestant therapy. In some cases infection can spread to the brain or even enter the blood stream resulting in spread throughout the body. If you really do have black mold, I don't think the doctors can do much. Molds often do not respond to antibiotics, based on what I have read anyway. But there are probably some natural therapies that can help. If you really do have this, I would look for immune-boosters to fight mold infection, and probably there are some natural mold killing herbs, or maybe colloid gold. --Kurt [] Help Again!!!! I am just CERTAIN I have black mold in me. However, NO DOCTOR IN THIS TOWN will test me!!! They either say they don't want to get involved or they don't have the capabilities! I have explained that it's NOT about 'getting involved' but HELPING ME GET WELL. I am at my wits end and this is taking a toll on me. Any suggestions????? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 12, 2006 Report Share Posted July 12, 2006 I don't know where you live but Dr. Shoemaker is in southern land and is excellent. Try to read his book, Mold Warriors, available through his office or Amazon.com. It has everything you and your Dr. need to know about a toxic illness, how to diagnose it, how to treat you, what blood work to do and what labs to send it to! His website is _www.chronicneurotoxins.com_ (http://www.chronicneurotoxins.com) which is a wealth of information. If your Dr. is interested have him/her check it out. Sue I am just CERTAIN I have black mold in me. However, NO DOCTOR IN THIS TOWN will test me!!! They either say they don't want to get involved or they don't have the capabilities! I have explained that it's NOT about 'getting involved' but HELPING ME GET WELL. I am at my wits end and this is taking a toll on me. Any suggestions?end Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 12, 2006 Report Share Posted July 12, 2006 Thank you all very much for your help and advice. God knows I need it!!! ssr3351@... wrote: I don't know where you live but Dr. Shoemaker is in southern land and is excellent. Try to read his book, Mold Warriors, available through his office or Amazon.com. It has everything you and your Dr. need to know about a toxic illness, how to diagnose it, how to treat you, what blood work to do and what labs to send it to! His website is _www.chronicneurotoxins.com_ (http://www.chronicneurotoxins.com) which is a wealth of information. If your Dr. is interested have him/her check it out. Sue I am just CERTAIN I have black mold in me. However, NO DOCTOR IN THIS TOWN will test me!!! They either say they don't want to get involved or they don't have the capabilities! I have explained that it's NOT about 'getting involved' but HELPING ME GET WELL. I am at my wits end and this is taking a toll on me. Any suggestions?end Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 15, 2006 Report Share Posted July 15, 2006 Carl, I am looking for any research and or statistics that discuss permanent sensitization resulting from mold exposure. Could you be so kind as to point me in the direction of the source from where you obtained the number of 24% that continue with symptoms? Also, a colleague of mine contacted me looking for anything that links up a connection to toxic mold exposure and psoriasis. Any help from anyone with this would be greatly appreciated. Thank you, In a message dated 7/14/2006 5:23:14 PM Central Standard Time, grimes@... writes: Dear Group, I would caution everyone to pay attention to vocabulary and how terms are used. And I'm not picking on Marcie or Kurt it's just that this topic provides a forum for the following points. There is more to our very real and serious exposure problems than JUST mold. Not all mold is " black mold. " For example, the infection risk mentioned below for Aspergillus fumagatus - which is very dangerous -- is NOT black mold. A. fumagatus is green with a white fringe. So just because the mold you see is not black, do not think that it is safe. On the other hand, there are an estimated 20,000 black molds, most of which are not as toxigenic as Stachybotrys chartarum; which is the typical black mold but is not strictly black but more of a very dark green or greenish-black. I have also sampled Stachybotrys that is not black and even white. Not all Stachybotrys produces toxins. There are huge and critical differences between infectious, toxic, allergic, irritant, heurologic, etc. Killing mold will prevent infection but none of the other effects. Infection, which can be deadly, is not as common as the others which is why mold should be removed and not just killed. Why the precision of terms? The experts make their living and save our lives because of the precision. You don't want them giving you allergy shots if you have an infection, or visa versa. When the mold exposure stops about 24% of us will stay sick because of how our body creates other complications from what was started by the mold exposure. Confusing outside exposure from internal exposure can lead to a lack of proper treatment. We aren't the experts so all we should do is report our experience, hoping the experts will identify the cause. When they can't or don't then we have to become our own expert but we lose all credibility because of imprecise vocabulary. We can't out-argue the experts on vocabulary and that shifts the focus away from the fact that we are sick. Finally, the reason molds don't respond well to antibiotics is not because mold is so hard to kill. It is because antibiotics are for bacteria and any specific one won't kill all bacteria. Different bacterial infections require different types of antibiotics. So, if you want to kill a mold infection you need an antimycotic. Proof that even doctors have problems with this one is revealed by the Mayo Clinic study that finally explained why many sinus infections were helped by antibiotics. The infection wasn't bacterial but fungal. They needed an antimycotic. Critical difference in terms with life and death implications. 1. Improve your vocabulary and use of terms but don't let that stop you from taking action to protect yourself. 2. When the experts claim you can't be sick because they don't have a diagnosis, don't try to argue vocabulary or to escalate the claim with a more dangerous situation. If further weakens your position. 3. When making a claim don't specify mold or black mold or whatever. Their responce will be geared solely to disprove your " obviously wrong diagnosis " and the focus then shifts to a personal argurment instead of the fact that something is still making you sick. Stopping the sickness is the remedy. I realize this is overly simplified and easier said than done, but let's not shoot ourselves in the foot just because the " marksmen " don't even aim correctly. It also shifts the liablity away from them and back onto us. That creates the outrage so many of us have experienced. I'm not saying stop making claims, just be careful what they are so you don't inadvertantly assist the opposition. Carl Grimes Healthy Habitats LLC ----- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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