Guest guest Posted July 19, 2006 Report Share Posted July 19, 2006 Ive used hydrogen peroxide to clean wood before. I also gargle with it. I used white vinager on the board on my balcony that turned green. Never came back. Janet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 19, 2006 Report Share Posted July 19, 2006 my doctor recommended a paste of baking soda and hydrogen peroxide to use on my toungue. Janet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 19, 2006 Report Share Posted July 19, 2006 I found this article on hydrogen peroxide. http://www.atsdr.cdc.gov/tfacts174.html It is a toxic substance and toxins aggrevate your immune system. Just food for thought. Might want to find something a little safer to use. Gingersnap1964@... wrote: Ive used hydrogen peroxide to clean wood before. I also gargle with it. I used white vinager on the board on my balcony that turned green. Never came back. Janet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 19, 2006 Report Share Posted July 19, 2006 I have heard from an excellent source that peroxide works very well! However, you have to use 40 weight CLEAR straight peroxide. I buy it at Sally's Beauty Supply in a large bottle and use it straight.Make sure to wear gloves and use a cotton cloth. Believe me it works especially on shower tile. Sue Will 35% hydrogen peroxide, mixed half and half with water, satisfactorily kill visible mold on wood flooring and wall supports? I need to make sure the mold won't come back. Thanks in advance, S Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 20, 2006 Report Share Posted July 20, 2006 Water is toxic if you drink too much and can be deadly if even a tiny bit goes into your lungs instead of your stomach. Cyanide is " safe " if used carefully under known, controlled conditions for a specific purpose. Chemotherapy is a deliberate poison strong enough to kill cancer cells but weak enough to keep the patient alive (usually). 35% H2O2 is such a strong oxidant that there are warnings on the MSDS that it can cause paper or wood to catch fire. (I've seen it). H2O2, bleach and most pesticides usually are not more effective at stronger concentrations. The recommended concentration for a particular use is where they are most effective. Again, vocabulary and terms are critical. If they weren't we could just do whatever we wanted, whenever we wanted and our success would be guaranteed solely by our intention. Kind of like a doctor getting an F in med school but being allowed to practice medicine anyway because she/he meant well. We must understand the principles by which the physical world works so we can harness them and use them to support our life and well- being. Because we are not all-knowing, knowledge is often lacking or has not achieved consensus. Even so, we still must acknowledge the principles by which the physical world works PLUS the principles of living with uncertainty. Coming to terms with uncertainty is perhaps the hardest challenge of all. Hope could perhaps be described as part of what sustains us until we achieve enough knowledge to reduce the uncertainty. Carl Grimes Healthy Habitats LLC ----- > my doctor recommended a paste of baking soda and hydrogen peroxide to > use on my toungue. Janet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 20, 2006 Report Share Posted July 20, 2006 Carl, What an absolutely beautiful description of " Hope. " It brought tears to my eyes. Barb E. --- " Carl E. Grimes " <grimes@...> wrote: > Water is toxic if you drink too much and can be > deadly if even a tiny > bit goes into your lungs instead of your stomach. > Cyanide is " safe " > if used carefully under known, controlled conditions > for a specific > purpose. Chemotherapy is a deliberate poison strong > enough to kill > cancer cells but weak enough to keep the patient > alive (usually). 35% > H2O2 is such a strong oxidant that there are > warnings on the MSDS > that it can cause paper or wood to catch fire. (I've > seen it). H2O2, > bleach and most pesticides usually are not more > effective at stronger > concentrations. The recommended concentration for a > particular use is > where they are most effective. > > Again, vocabulary and terms are critical. If they > weren't we could > just do whatever we wanted, whenever we wanted and > our success would > be guaranteed solely by our intention. Kind of like > a doctor getting > an F in med school but being allowed to practice > medicine anyway > because she/he meant well. > > We must understand the principles by which the > physical world works > so we can harness them and use them to support our > life and well- > being. Because we are not all-knowing, knowledge is > often lacking or > has not achieved consensus. Even so, we still must > acknowledge the > principles by which the physical world works PLUS > the principles of > living with uncertainty. Coming to terms with > uncertainty is perhaps > the hardest challenge of all. Hope could perhaps be > described as part > of what sustains us until we achieve enough > knowledge to reduce the > uncertainty. > > Carl Grimes > Healthy Habitats LLC > > ----- > > my doctor recommended a paste of baking soda and > hydrogen peroxide to > > use on my toungue. Janet > > > __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 21, 2006 Report Share Posted July 21, 2006 Leigh, True, like Carl said in his July 19th post, " Chemotherapy is a deliberate poison strong enough to kill cancer cells but weak enough to keep the patient alive (usually). " And, " Cyanide is " safe " if used carefully under known, controlled conditions for a specific purpose. " So poisons can be useful, and I suppose, since several people in the group, including yourself, have stated that they use hydrogen peroxide, I guess it's probably okay, but personally, I would not be comfortable putting a modearate, or even a small amount of it in my mouth. But then again, to each their own! Barb E. --- Leigh McCall-Alton <mccallalton@...> wrote: > they also use toxins to kill cancer. A modicum of > hydrogen peroxide is okay. > > Ali <lilly_aca@...> wrote: > I found this article on hydrogen > peroxide. http://www.atsdr.cdc.gov/tfacts174.html > It is a toxic substance and toxins aggrevate your > immune system. Just food for thought. Might want > to find something a little safer to use. > > Gingersnap1964@... wrote: Ive used > hydrogen peroxide to clean wood before. I also > gargle with it. I > used white vinager on the board on my balcony that > turned green. Never came back. > Janet __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 21, 2006 Report Share Posted July 21, 2006 Which is a toxin...vinegar or hydrogen peroxide? Is Chemotherapy done with a mycotoxin? --- Barbara <floridabound03200@...> wrote: > Leigh, > > True, like Carl said in his July 19th post, > " Chemotherapy is a deliberate poison strong > enough to > kill cancer cells but weak enough to keep the > patient > alive (usually). " And, " Cyanide is " safe " if > used > carefully under known, controlled conditions > for a > specific purpose. " So poisons can be useful, > and I > suppose, since several people in the group, > including > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 21, 2006 Report Share Posted July 21, 2006 Barb Vinegar is fine. If you want to know more about Hydrogen Peroxide, check out http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hydrogen_peroxide And you'll have to ask Carl if Chemo. is done with a mycotoxin, because I don't know. Barb E. --- bbw <barb1283@...> wrote: > Which is a toxin...vinegar or hydrogen peroxide? > > Is Chemotherapy done with a mycotoxin? > > --- Barbara <floridabound03200@...> wrote: > > > Leigh, > > > > True, like Carl said in his July 19th post, > > " Chemotherapy is a deliberate poison strong > > enough to > > kill cancer cells but weak enough to keep the > > patient > > alive (usually). " And, " Cyanide is " safe " if > > used > > carefully under known, controlled conditions > > for a > > specific purpose. " So poisons can be useful, > > and I > > suppose, since several people in the group, > > including > > > __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 21, 2006 Report Share Posted July 21, 2006 Barb, That's what I was trying to say in a round about way. I hope I didn't come off sounding like a know it all. Ali Barbara <floridabound03200@...> wrote: Leigh, True, like Carl said in his July 19th post, " Chemotherapy is a deliberate poison strong enough to kill cancer cells but weak enough to keep the patient alive (usually). " And, " Cyanide is " safe " if used carefully under known, controlled conditions for a specific purpose. " So poisons can be useful, and I suppose, since several people in the group, including yourself, have stated that they use hydrogen peroxide, I guess it's probably okay, but personally, I would not be comfortable putting a modearate, or even a small amount of it in my mouth. But then again, to each their own! Barb E. --- Leigh McCall-Alton <mccallalton@...> wrote: > they also use toxins to kill cancer. A modicum of > hydrogen peroxide is okay. > > Ali <lilly_aca@...> wrote: > I found this article on hydrogen > peroxide. http://www.atsdr.cdc.gov/tfacts174.html > It is a toxic substance and toxins aggrevate your > immune system. Just food for thought. Might want > to find something a little safer to use. > > Gingersnap1964@... wrote: Ive used > hydrogen peroxide to clean wood before. I also > gargle with it. I > used white vinager on the board on my balcony that > turned green. Never came back. > Janet __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 21, 2006 Report Share Posted July 21, 2006 An alternative doctor wanted to give me hydrogen peroxide drip. I didn't realize he was giving it to me at first. He has heavy Russian accent so sometimes I don't understand him. When I realized what IV had in it, I declined. I just don't feel comfortable taking something via IV that I would not drink or eat. I feel that way about things I put on my skin also. However I do use Hydrogen Peroxide on my skin come to think of it! --- Barbara <floridabound03200@...> wrote: > Barb > > Vinegar is fine. > > If you want to know more about Hydrogen > Peroxide, > check out > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hydrogen_peroxide > > And you'll have to ask Carl if Chemo. is done > with a > mycotoxin, because I don't know. > > Barb E. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 21, 2006 Report Share Posted July 21, 2006 Hi everyone- I have a good friend that is a dental hygienist. I had told her that I was rinsing my mouth with 3% hydrogen peroxide. She told me to be careful as it can cause your tongue to turn black. I think she also said that it also could cause sores. I also have settled my workmans comp case. I received a small monetary payment but also received a restoration of sick days used for the problems connected with my exposure. I see this as a win. If anyone would like info - please email me off list. I will probably not be able to respond until the weekend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 21, 2006 Report Share Posted July 21, 2006 Ali, I don't have any problem at all with what you wrote. Don't sweat the small stuff is what I always say! Okay? Barb E. --- Ali <lilly_aca@...> wrote: > Barb, > > That's what I was trying to say in a round about > way. I hope I didn't come off sounding like a know > it all. > > Ali > > Barbara <floridabound03200@...> wrote: > Leigh, > > True, like Carl said in his July 19th post, > " Chemotherapy is a deliberate poison strong enough > to > kill cancer cells but weak enough to keep the > patient > alive (usually). " And, " Cyanide is " safe " if used > carefully under known, controlled conditions for a > specific purpose. " So poisons can be useful, and I > suppose, since several people in the group, > including > yourself, have stated that they use hydrogen > peroxide, > I guess it's probably okay, but personally, I would > not be comfortable putting a modearate, or even a > small amount of it in my mouth. But then again, to > each their own! > > Barb E. > > --- Leigh McCall-Alton <mccallalton@...> > wrote: > > > they also use toxins to kill cancer. A modicum of > > hydrogen peroxide is okay. > > > > Ali <lilly_aca@...> wrote: > > I found this article on hydrogen > > peroxide. http://www.atsdr.cdc.gov/tfacts174.html > > It is a toxic substance and toxins aggrevate your > > immune system. Just food for thought. Might want > > to find something a little safer to use. > > > > Gingersnap1964@... wrote: Ive used > > hydrogen peroxide to clean wood before. I also > > gargle with it. I > > used white vinager on the board on my balcony that > > turned green. Never came back. > > Janet > > > __________________________________________________ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 21, 2006 Report Share Posted July 21, 2006 I don't blame you for declining. Vitamin C ivs burn my veins so I seldom take them. bbw <barb1283@...> wrote: An alternative doctor wanted to give me hydrogen peroxide drip. I didn't realize he was giving it to me at first. He has heavy Russian accent so sometimes I don't understand him. When I realized what IV had in it, I declined. I just don't feel comfortable taking something via IV that I would not drink or eat. I feel that way about things I put on my skin also. However I do use Hydrogen Peroxide on my skin come to think of it! --- Barbara <floridabound03200@...> wrote: > Barb > > Vinegar is fine. > > If you want to know more about Hydrogen > Peroxide, > check out > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hydrogen_peroxide > > And you'll have to ask Carl if Chemo. is done > with a > mycotoxin, because I don't know. > > Barb E. --------------------------------- Talk is cheap. Use Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. Great rates starting at 1ยข/min. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 21, 2006 Report Share Posted July 21, 2006 Well, I did do a few months of IV with Vit C and glutathione, etc but I hated it. People there were getting IV's through their finger or hand and I asked why and it was because vein in arm was no good. That is what finally turned me off. I actually used to feel a bit perky after them but I think there is more than one way to do things. --- Leigh McCall-Alton <mccallalton@...> wrote: > I don't blame you for declining. Vitamin C ivs > burn my veins so I seldom take them. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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