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[Guest guest]

Hi Janice,

Welcome to the group. My 10 1/2 yr. old daughter, Billie was diagnosed

with OCD last August. I moderate the OCDKids list. To subscribe, send

email addressed to OCDKidsSupportGroup-subscribe

Then type the word subscibe in the subject line.

If you have any trouble joining, please email me directly. The kids list

has been rather quiet lately. I suggest that you have your daughter send

an intro to the group when she is ready. Let me know if you have any

questions.

Kathy

At 3:44 PM +0000 1/22/2002, scarflady55 wrote:

>Hi,

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>I wanted to introduce myself. My name is Janice and I have an

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>11 year old daughter who was recently diagnosed with ocd. She

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>is on meds and therapy which have drastically helped her (and

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>the family).

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>I have reviewed some of the old posts and have one question.

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>Really, it is from my daughter. Is there a site that is monitored for

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>the children with ocd to use, chat, support and know that they are

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>not alone? She would like to use one under our supervision but

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>I don't know where to begin to find one. We asked her doc who

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>was not aware of one for children.

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>Any help would be appreciated. Thanks.

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>

>Janice (Scarflady55) :-)

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[Guest guest]

Thanks everyone for your posts. I will give my daughter the

information after school today and we can log on together and

sign up. Your help is greatly appreciated. She had a great

session this morning and is really on the " up-swing " .

She is also an immature 11 year old so I think the kids group

versus the teenage group would be much better for her.

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> >Janice (Scarflady55) :-)

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[Guest guest]

Thanks everyone for your posts. I will give my daughter the

information after school today and we can log on together and

sign up. Your help is greatly appreciated. She had a great

session this morning and is really on the " up-swing " .

She is also an immature 11 year old so I think the kids group

versus the teenage group would be much better for her.

> >

> >Janice (Scarflady55) :-)

> >

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[Guest guest]

Hi Lee, welcome to the group!

Well it sounds as if you are doing a great job with your son, getting

therapy and talking to him about this. Is his current therapist

familiar with OCD treatment too? Is your son already on any

medications?

I want to say STOP FEELING GUILTY!!!! and I know that can be hard to

do at times. I'm a single mom with 3 sons - oldest is 17, then twins

13 y/o. One of the twins was diagnosed at around age 11.9 with OCD

after it seemed to hit " overnight. " I knew immediately from his

behaviors that he had OCD, but as I learned MORE about it I realized

he'd ALWAYS had OCD in more ways than I realized. The most I'd

noticed was where in elementary school he would erase and rewrite

letters and trace over & over some. Nothing that really caused any

problems. Then I realized all those QUESTIONS about death and dying

and " when will this heal? " and " will I get cancer? " and so on had

been OCD. And his fear about dying, he'd leave the room if something

relating to it was on TV. Now all my kids went thru some fears about

death/dying but the other 2 got through it but his seemed to affect

him more/longer. And then at the beginning of 6th grade, lots of NEW

definite OCD compulsions began.

Anyway, then as I learned more I remembered ME and some behaviors I

had gone thru growing up plus also after I was " grown up " but they

seemed to pass. But they WERE OCD behaviors. So I thought, well he

got it from ME! Now, his twin also went thru definite OCD behaviors

as a toddler for a few months and they passed. My oldest doesn't

have any, at least that would get a diagnosis. By that I mean that I

think MOST people have a " little OCD. " I still have to check once

after turning the iron off to see IF it's off, but only once.

Anyway, so 1 out of my 3 seems to have OCD that apparently IS going

to stick around, unlike for me and his brothers. And now I find

myself looking at MY mom and thinking, " Hmm...maybe THAT'S why

everything had to be done HER way?? "

I'M TRYING TO SAY DON'T FEEL GUILTY as at least this IS a condition

that you well know is treatable and he can learn to deal with through

Cognitive Behavioral Therapy and ERP. With my son there are

no close-by OCD-experienced docs, so I just learn as much as I can

and educate myself and him. When it comes to " guilt " I save that for

the " I know I'm not spending enough time with... " and " I shouldn't

have said.....but I'm in a bad mood " and the times they complain to

ME about ME and I know they're right! But I don't feel guilty

anymore about 's having OCD. I sometimes have felt that maybe

I could have " headed it off " IF I'd done this/that, but in reality I

think even THEN he'd have probably begun these behaviors eventually

anyway.

Does some of his behaviors compare to what you experienced with OCD

when you were younger?

Gotta go! Again, welcome and hope to hear lots more from you!

> i just joined and thought i would take a minute to introduce

> myself... my name is Lee and i have one child who is 10. He has

been

> going to a therapist for a while for an anxiety disorder but over

the

> last several months he has been heving intrusive scary thoguths

that

> he just hasnt been able to get a handle on... it has been getting

> somewhat better. he has been working with his therapist on it and

i

> have experience with this as i started with ocd as a child and

> currently am on disability for bipolar disorder. He has been VERY

> concerned with health issue, overly concerned i would say...death

and

> sickness... and i have been wondering if he has been having any

> *complusive* things but i hadnt wanted to ask him ... this morning

> he told me that if he does something one one side of his body (like

> grind his teeth or bite his cheek) he has to do it on the other

> side... and that if he does something repetitve he does it to a

> specific tune...he hummed it for me... i talked to him a bit about

> it and he felt better because there was help for it... i just felt

> bad for him...guilty that i passed this mess on to him... sad. i

> cried after he left. and than i found this group. lee

[Guest guest]

Dear Lee,

Welcome -- I just joined, too, within the last month. I have an 8

yr. old daughter, who also experiences intrusive thoughts. It can be

scary (for both of us) but we're working on coping with it. Since my

daughter's diagnosis, I see so many tendencies in myself that

are " ocd-ish " so I suppose it's possible that we pass this on in some

way to our children, yet our guilt won't ever be productive. I

understand how you feel, just want to encourage you to keep your eyes

fixed on the path before you, and not on any guilt from the past. I

was extremely pleased and relieved to find this group, and it has

already offered me a lot of hope and support. I hope you'll find

that to be true, too.

Blessings,

> i just joined and thought i would take a minute to introduce

> myself... my name is Lee and i have one child who is 10. He has

been

> going to a therapist for a while for an anxiety disorder but over

the

> last several months he has been heving intrusive scary thoguths

that

> he just hasnt been able to get a handle on...

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 4/15/2002 4:36:15 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

@... writes:

> <Hi Lee, welcome to the group!

> Well it sounds as if you are doing a great job with your son, getting

> therapy and talking to him about this. Is his current therapist

> familiar with OCD treatment too? Is your son already on any

> medications? >

~~~~~~~~ My guess is she is familiar with ocd becuase she was very good with

helping him out about 2 months ago when the intrusive thoughts came up...plus

he trusts her ALOT which doesnt happen easily... and no he isnt on meds....

this thing with the touching and counting, he told me this

morning....~~~~~~~~~~

>

> <I want to say STOP FEELING GUILTY!!!! and I know that can be hard to

> do at times. I'm a single mom with 3 sons - oldest is 17, then twins

> 13 y/o. One of the twins was diagnosed at around age 11.9 with OCD

> after it seemed to hit " overnight. " I knew immediately from his

> behaviors that he had OCD, but as I learned MORE about it I realized

> he'd ALWAYS had OCD in more ways than I realized. The most I'd

> noticed was where in elementary school he would erase and rewrite

> letters and trace over & over some. Nothing that really caused any

> problems. Then I realized all those QUESTIONS about death and dying

> and " when will this heal? " and " will I get cancer? " and so on had

> been OCD. And his fear about dying, he'd leave the room if something

> relating to it was on TV. Now all my kids went thru some fears about

> death/dying but the other 2 got through it but his seemed to affect

> him more/longer. And then at the beginning of 6th grade, lots of NEW

> definite OCD compulsions began.>

~~~~~~~~~~He has always been overly sensitive to stuff like that too...

shows about illness would upset him for days.... having him check over his

body for lumps and bumps~~~~~~~~~~~~

>

> <Anyway, then as I learned more I remembered ME and some behaviors I

> had gone thru growing up plus also after I was " grown up " but they

> seemed to pass. But they WERE OCD behaviors. So I thought, well he

> got it from ME! Now, his twin also went thru definite OCD behaviors

> as a toddler for a few months and they passed. My oldest doesn't

> have any, at least that would get a diagnosis. By that I mean that I

> think MOST people have a " little OCD. " I still have to check once

> after turning the iron off to see IF it's off, but only once.

> Anyway, so 1 out of my 3 seems to have OCD that apparently IS going

> to stick around, unlike for me and his brothers. And now I find

> myself looking at MY mom and thinking, " Hmm...maybe THAT'S why

> everything had to be done HER way?? " >

~~~~~~~~~ I know i had it as a kid....the touching things a certain number of

times... the thoughts.... ugh. how i remember that stuff. and i still

have it although its a bit differen now and combined with the

bipolar~~~~~~~~~~~~~

>

> <I'M TRYING TO SAY DON'T FEEL GUILTY as at least this IS a condition

> that you well know is treatable and he can learn to deal with through

> Cognitive Behavioral Therapy and ERP. With my son there are

> no close-by OCD-experienced docs, so I just learn as much as I can

> and educate myself and him. When it comes to " guilt " I save that for

> the " I know I'm not spending enough time with... " and " I shouldn't

> have said.....but I'm in a bad mood " and the times they complain to

> ME about ME and I know they're right! But I don't feel guilty

> anymore about 's having OCD. I sometimes have felt that maybe

> I could have " headed it off " IF I'd done this/that, but in reality I

> think even THEN he'd have probably begun these behaviors eventually

> anyway. >

~~~~~~~~~I guess the guilt isnt so much that i couldnt have headed it

off...its that i passed it on at all....and maybe will pass on the bipolar

to.. its just that i know what it like to live like this.... ~`~~~~~~~~~~~

<> Does some of his behaviors compare to what you experienced with OCD

> when you were younger? >

~~~~~~~similar things, touching and counting~~~~~~~~~

>

> Gotta go! Again, welcome and hope to hear lots more from you!

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Lee,

I am glad you found us. Your son is lucky to have you

for his Mom. I have found being albe to talk about OCD

is a big step for getting free of it. Your son is at a

good age for learning about it. Our son has never been

able to openly talk about it and gets angry when it is

brought up. He is in big denial, but has been able to

take medication that helps a great deal. If he could

get CBT and ERP I think he would be so much better

off.

I hope your sons therapist can keep working with him

so he can avoid some of the secretness this disorder

seems to create.

Vivian

--- angryblond wrote:

> i just joined and thought i would take a minute to

> introduce

> myself... my name is Lee and i have one child who is

> 10. He has been

> going to a therapist for a while for an anxiety

> disorder but over the

> last several months he has been heving intrusive

> scary thoguths that

> he just hasnt been able to get a handle on... it

> has been getting

> somewhat better. he has been working with his

> therapist on it and i

> have experience with this as i started with ocd as a

> child and

> currently am on disability for bipolar disorder. He

> has been VERY

> concerned with health issue, overly concerned i

> would say...death and

> sickness... and i have been wondering if he has

> been having any

> *complusive* things but i hadnt wanted to ask him

> ... this morning

> he told me that if he does something one one side of

> his body (like

> grind his teeth or bite his cheek) he has to do it

> on the other

> side... and that if he does something repetitve he

> does it to a

> specific tune...he hummed it for me... i talked to

> him a bit about

> it and he felt better because there was help for

> it... i just felt

> bad for him...guilty that i passed this mess on to

> him... sad. i

> cried after he left. and than i found this group.

> lee

>

>

__________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

Hi Lee,

I am glad you found us. Your son is lucky to have you

for his Mom. I have found being albe to talk about OCD

is a big step for getting free of it. Your son is at a

good age for learning about it. Our son has never been

able to openly talk about it and gets angry when it is

brought up. He is in big denial, but has been able to

take medication that helps a great deal. If he could

get CBT and ERP I think he would be so much better

off.

I hope your sons therapist can keep working with him

so he can avoid some of the secretness this disorder

seems to create.

Vivian

--- angryblond wrote:

> i just joined and thought i would take a minute to

> introduce

> myself... my name is Lee and i have one child who is

> 10. He has been

> going to a therapist for a while for an anxiety

> disorder but over the

> last several months he has been heving intrusive

> scary thoguths that

> he just hasnt been able to get a handle on... it

> has been getting

> somewhat better. he has been working with his

> therapist on it and i

> have experience with this as i started with ocd as a

> child and

> currently am on disability for bipolar disorder. He

> has been VERY

> concerned with health issue, overly concerned i

> would say...death and

> sickness... and i have been wondering if he has

> been having any

> *complusive* things but i hadnt wanted to ask him

> ... this morning

> he told me that if he does something one one side of

> his body (like

> grind his teeth or bite his cheek) he has to do it

> on the other

> side... and that if he does something repetitve he

> does it to a

> specific tune...he hummed it for me... i talked to

> him a bit about

> it and he felt better because there was help for

> it... i just felt

> bad for him...guilty that i passed this mess on to

> him... sad. i

> cried after he left. and than i found this group.

> lee

>

>

__________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

Hi Lee,

I am glad you found us. Your son is lucky to have you

for his Mom. I have found being albe to talk about OCD

is a big step for getting free of it. Your son is at a

good age for learning about it. Our son has never been

able to openly talk about it and gets angry when it is

brought up. He is in big denial, but has been able to

take medication that helps a great deal. If he could

get CBT and ERP I think he would be so much better

off.

I hope your sons therapist can keep working with him

so he can avoid some of the secretness this disorder

seems to create.

Vivian

--- angryblond wrote:

> i just joined and thought i would take a minute to

> introduce

> myself... my name is Lee and i have one child who is

> 10. He has been

> going to a therapist for a while for an anxiety

> disorder but over the

> last several months he has been heving intrusive

> scary thoguths that

> he just hasnt been able to get a handle on... it

> has been getting

> somewhat better. he has been working with his

> therapist on it and i

> have experience with this as i started with ocd as a

> child and

> currently am on disability for bipolar disorder. He

> has been VERY

> concerned with health issue, overly concerned i

> would say...death and

> sickness... and i have been wondering if he has

> been having any

> *complusive* things but i hadnt wanted to ask him

> ... this morning

> he told me that if he does something one one side of

> his body (like

> grind his teeth or bite his cheek) he has to do it

> on the other

> side... and that if he does something repetitve he

> does it to a

> specific tune...he hummed it for me... i talked to

> him a bit about

> it and he felt better because there was help for

> it... i just felt

> bad for him...guilty that i passed this mess on to

> him... sad. i

> cried after he left. and than i found this group.

> lee

>

>

__________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 4/15/2002 6:39:05 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

edfamily5@... writes:

> I

> understand how you feel, just want to encourage you to keep your eyes

> fixed on the path before you, and not on any guilt from the past. I

> was extremely pleased and relieved to find this group, and it has

> already offered me a lot of hope and support. I hope you'll find

> that to be true, too.

>

... i am trying...i really really am. i had been relly hoping that he

would have been spared this during the genetic roulette.... i am looking

foward to getting to know this group too thanks for the welcome lee

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 4/15/2002 6:39:05 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

edfamily5@... writes:

> I

> understand how you feel, just want to encourage you to keep your eyes

> fixed on the path before you, and not on any guilt from the past. I

> was extremely pleased and relieved to find this group, and it has

> already offered me a lot of hope and support. I hope you'll find

> that to be true, too.

>

... i am trying...i really really am. i had been relly hoping that he

would have been spared this during the genetic roulette.... i am looking

foward to getting to know this group too thanks for the welcome lee

[Guest guest]

- welcome to the group - there really is an abundant pool of knowledge in

this group.... you will come to find that out!!! :-) Congrats on making the

decision to change your lifestyle as well.

I'm relatively new here myself (been doing BFL since Jan, but only " half-assed "

and today started a new self challenge)... but I'll give my two cents to some of

your questions! :-) My final straw was when I had to continue to by " regular "

t-shirts from the guy section because I hated walking through the female section

and seeing all the skimpy clothing that I couldn't wear (okay, some of it I

would NEVER wear in a million years regardless of my body lol). I used to be

able to feel comfortable in tank-tops, etc... and I had to pack all that away

when I gained my weight - that is my measurement, actually. I don't weigh

myself (depresses me), so my goal is to fit into my clothing from when I was

first married (2 years ago). :-) I am attaching something I find useful for

myself - it is a menu I make up every Sunday.. .this is my one from last week.

I put the time that I want to eat those meals, but I always mark on my calendar

each week, so that I know for sure when I

ate the meals, and if I altered at all (which I do sometimes). I post this

menu on the fridge each Sunday (which is also the day I go shopping) and keep a

pen right next to it so that I can make alterations as needed. But if I have it

on the fridge (next to a picture of my husband and I back when I was a good

size!), I really struggle with eating anything BUT BFL approved foods, because

it's right there staring me in the face, lol. :-) By the way - ALL of my foods

on this menu are in the Eating for Life book.

Body for Life is a very easy diet to adapt... because you aren't really

depriving yourself of anything... you are making a change that will last for

your lifetime... you aren't cutting carbs out, or lower protein, or anything.

In fact, with each meal - you should aim for equal carbs and protein.... don't

eat less carbs because you have heard you shouldn't eat carbs - just limit your

" bad " carbs. :-)

Do you have the Eating for Life book?? I would highly recommend it - all of the

recipes are real simple to make, and very family friendly. The great thing

about that book that I enjoy so much, is that a lot of the

breakfasts/lunches/snacks are measured out for 1 person (some are two). Dinners

are either 2 portions or 4 portions. It really is very easy to follow. :-)

A lot of people think that working out if you are doing cardio is done best on

an empty stomach, most would suggest first thing in the morning. Don't eat

before you go, and wait an hour after you get home to eat as well. That is ONLY

on cardio days though. When you do weights - eat something small before and

then make sure you eat right when you get home - you want to feed those muscles

- not deprive them! :-)

What part of ORegon are you in? I'm in Boise, Idaho.

Also.... an important aspect of BFL is to make sure you write down your goals

for your challenge... and re-read them everyday.

Anyways... post any questions you have here... and post often... this is a great

accountability group!!

-

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[Guest guest]

I'll take the first few...

1. Yes, you can have coffee and tea. Just make sure you're also

getting enough water. It's a good idea to drink an extra glass of

water for each caffeinated drink you have.

2. It takes most people at least one 12 week challenge for it to

become second nature. You know, so it's just what you do and not

something you have to think about so much.

3. Getting the workout done is much more important than getting the

timing perfect. If you can do it in the morning, great. If you can do

it later, great. Like the Nike slogan says, Just do it. :-)

> Hiya!

>

> I'm totally new to this Body for Life thing! I'm excited, yet intimidated by

> all of this. I want to change my eating habits and my non-existent exercise

> routine. I want to avoid a path of high blood pressure, high cholesterol,

> and especially diabetes. Bottom line, I'm just tired…so tired of being

> overweight and out of shape. I've been overweight since I was 10. I think I'

> ve slightly had it with always being the 'fat kid' in class. (I'm 35 now…I'm

> a tad bit out of school) ;-)

>

> I've been doing the Atkins diet off and on since 2001. It worked…at first. I

> lost 54 pounds. I'm not really sure what stopped me from continuing on that.

> Maybe it was because of the lack of a normal way of eating. Too many

> restrictions to fruits and veggies perhaps. I would sneak a 'forbidden' food

> and feel guilty about it…then I would have a weeklong binge of everything I

> wasn't supposed to eat. I came to the realization that this diet may not be

> the one for me. (At least not for me to continue on for the rest of my life

> that is)

>

> Anyhoo, I'm looking forward to learning all I can about this way of life. I

> have the BFL book, as well as Eating for Life. A few questions for you all

> before I hush up. ;-)

>

> 1. Are coffee and tea allowed with BFL? (I can't find any reference to it

in

> the books) I'm talking black coffee with a packet of splenda and a smidge of

> skim milk…not Starbucks :-)

> 2. How long did it take you all to get into a comfortable routine of

knowing

> what to eat, when to eat, when to exercise?

> 3. Can working out work at all times of the day? Does it have to be

before

> breakfast? (I homeschool my two children-some days are difficult to get them

> motivated to eat their breakfasts!) Can the fat-burning process occur no

> matter when you decide to exercise?

> 4. Not only with the weight loss and the muscle gain, what other changes

> have you seen with yourselves?

> 5. What was your 'final straw' to make you say enough is enough…I need to

> change my habits and get fit? (Mine was during our last trip to Las Vegas.

> Walking was a chore, and feeling totally uncomfortable wearing shorts in

> public isn't how I want to spend my life)

>

> Thanks so much for being here for support! I have been looking at all the

> before/after photos and I'm just blown away at the awesome results I've

> seen! I'm ready for a change…and I think this is the best path I can

> take…not only for me, but to show others around me that it's very possible

> to love the skin you're in! :-)

>

> Take care,

> in Oregon

[Guest guest]

Welcome ,

You have found a great support group here

Here's what has worked well for me...

-I homeschool two as well, ages 5 and 13.

-I prefer to do my cardio time first thing in the morning while they

are asleep and I can give it 100%.

-I go to the gym for weight training evenings when my husband is

having " quality time " with the kids.

-I made two copies of the food list on page 83. One I take to the

grocery store, one I post on the refrigerator to prompt me for what a

" meal " is

-coffee and I don't get along, but I do lean on green tea. One cup in

the AM and one at noon.

More later,

late for an appt.

M.

[Guest guest]

Welcome . If you have questions along your journey,

definitley post, everyone here is very helpful. I'm not surprised

you had trouble sticking with Atkins. I can't live without carbs

(healthy ones of course), they are essential for your brain to

function, help prevent disease, and fuel your workouts. So don't

beat yourself up about dropping Atkins. BFL is an easier plan to

follow, in my opinion, but it does require planning.

(our fearless leader!) answered some of your questions. I'll

give it a stab, too.

1. I drink coffee everyday. BFL even suggests a cup of coffee first

thing in the morning with fasted cardio to kickstart your fat

burning. Generally, I have 2 cups in the morning, after that I

stick to water and a green tea in the afternoon. Make sure you get

all of your water.

2. I've eaten 5-6 meals / day for a long time (pre BFL did South

Beach) so I'm not a good person to say how long until I got used to

it. I CAN'T miss these mini-meals, or I feel incredibly hungry. I

just love to eat!

3. Fat burning is about a calorie defecit, so make sure you get the

exercise in and eat the 6 small meals properly proportioned. Fasted

cardio in the morning is more of a 'tweak'. I can't do it at that

time either usually because I have 2 kids to get off to

school/daycare. I usually do my cardio at the end of the workday (5

pm or so), or lunchtime, or later in the eve at 9pm (not ideal

because it can keep people up sometime). I think the trick is to

make sure your pre-workout meal is 2 hrs before you do the cardio.

Then eat about 30 mins after it. For weights, I usually have a bit

of a snack 1-2 hrs before to actually fuel my workout, or you

can 'bonk' and not lift as strongly. You might consider going for a

walk with your kids first thing in the morning prior to eating

anything (except your cup of coffee). This would be added bonus to

the regular workout program.

4. I feel better, stronger. I sleep better at night. I've lost bf

and fit into my clothes better. I don't crave junk food anymore. I

actually feel physically ill if I drink any alcohol now. I don't

experience back pain anymore.

5. I've always been a healthy weight, but never happy with my

physique. I've worked out with weights for 10 yrs and cardio for 20

yrs consistently. BUT, my 'WHY' comes back to the death of my

father when I was 17 yrs old (cancer). I've seen what it can do to

a person and I'm doing whatever is in my power to be healthy. My

family history also include high blood pressure (mother), heart

disease (grandmother), and diabetes (grandfather), so I want to be

healthy for myself, my family & to watch my kids grow up. My

final 'straw' in my fitness quest was that the program I was on

(excessive cardio & weights) was not working, and I was getting

injuries.

>>>>>>

> I've been doing the Atkins diet off and on since 2001. It worked…

at first. I

> lost 54 pounds. I'm not really sure what stopped me from

continuing on that.

> Maybe it was because of the lack of a normal way of eating. Too

many

> restrictions to fruits and veggies perhaps.

>

> 1. Are coffee and tea allowed with BFL?

> 2. How long did it take you all to get into a comfortable

routine of knowing

> what to eat, when to eat, when to exercise?

> 3. Can working out work at all times of the day? Does it have

to be before

> breakfast? (I homeschool my two children-some days are difficult

to get them

> motivated to eat their breakfasts!) Can the fat-burning process

occur no

> matter when you decide to exercise?

> 4. Not only with the weight loss and the muscle gain, what

other changes

> have you seen with yourselves?

> 5. What was your `final straw' to make you say enough is enough…

I need to

> change my habits and get fit?

[Guest guest]

Hep

C is generally not a sexually transmitted disease. It requires blood to

blood contact for transmission, so sex would have to be rough, or both partners

bleeding to transmit it that way. Condoms are in order if an hcv infected

person has multiple partners, but probably no changes are necessary if that

person is in a monogamous relationship. I have no idea about the legal

issues involved though.

/De

New here

I guys, Im new here. I do

not have HepatitisC, but a dear friend hase

it. This person dont like to talk to others about it, sow I thought I

could try to find out few things for my friend.

Im not from any English spoken country so if Im miss spelling pleas

bear over with me, I'll try as good as I can.

Do have one question on my behafe, is it legal or iligal to have

intimat relation wile having Aids or HepatitisC in USA. My friend are

very worried about having to tell someone before knowing them well.

What does my friend need to know about taking precation for others if

having intimat relation ?

Help, I realy wish there was a way to make my friend feel better.

Sorry if Im bathering you guys with all this question's.......

sweet_blond_no

[Guest guest]

Hep

C is generally not a sexually transmitted disease. It requires blood to

blood contact for transmission, so sex would have to be rough, or both partners

bleeding to transmit it that way. Condoms are in order if an hcv infected

person has multiple partners, but probably no changes are necessary if that

person is in a monogamous relationship. I have no idea about the legal

issues involved though.

/De

New here

I guys, Im new here. I do

not have HepatitisC, but a dear friend hase

it. This person dont like to talk to others about it, sow I thought I

could try to find out few things for my friend.

Im not from any English spoken country so if Im miss spelling pleas

bear over with me, I'll try as good as I can.

Do have one question on my behafe, is it legal or iligal to have

intimat relation wile having Aids or HepatitisC in USA. My friend are

very worried about having to tell someone before knowing them well.

What does my friend need to know about taking precation for others if

having intimat relation ?

Help, I realy wish there was a way to make my friend feel better.

Sorry if Im bathering you guys with all this question's.......

sweet_blond_no

[Guest guest]

Hep

C is generally not a sexually transmitted disease. It requires blood to

blood contact for transmission, so sex would have to be rough, or both partners

bleeding to transmit it that way. Condoms are in order if an hcv infected

person has multiple partners, but probably no changes are necessary if that

person is in a monogamous relationship. I have no idea about the legal

issues involved though.

/De

New here

I guys, Im new here. I do

not have HepatitisC, but a dear friend hase

it. This person dont like to talk to others about it, sow I thought I

could try to find out few things for my friend.

Im not from any English spoken country so if Im miss spelling pleas

bear over with me, I'll try as good as I can.

Do have one question on my behafe, is it legal or iligal to have

intimat relation wile having Aids or HepatitisC in USA. My friend are

very worried about having to tell someone before knowing them well.

What does my friend need to know about taking precation for others if

having intimat relation ?

Help, I realy wish there was a way to make my friend feel better.

Sorry if Im bathering you guys with all this question's.......

sweet_blond_no

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

Is it Beverly? I hope you don't have Still's but welcome to see if you do.

Still's almost always has the spiking fevers and I've never had the bathroom

issues but there are never any fast and hard rules with this disease so a

doctors diagnoses is the only way to go. We are happy to have you and hope you

can learn some information to take to your doctors in search of answers.

--->I'm new here too and haven't been diagnosed yet, but after all the

Drs. and blood tests and after reading the symptoms on the website,

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[Guest guest]

Hi Bill, I am LMay I live in Kansas you will find a lot of kind caring people on here. I found a life line here. Wishing you well and clear. may

Subject: new here Date: Friday, March 20, 2009, 10:33 PM

was diagnosed with lung cancer 1 month ago and still trying to accept it.

[Guest guest]

Hi Bill, I am LMay I live in Kansas you will find a lot of kind caring people on here. I found a life line here. Wishing you well and clear. may

Subject: new here Date: Friday, March 20, 2009, 10:33 PM

was diagnosed with lung cancer 1 month ago and still trying to accept it.

[Guest guest]

WELCOME TO THE GROUP;;BILL

SORRY TO HEAR ABOUT THE CANCER;; I PRAY THAT YOU WILL BE HEALED

((HEALING)) ((HUGS))

DORT FROM MICH.U.S.A.

From: bill <oldrvnut@...>Subject: new here Date: Friday, March 20, 2009, 11:33 PM

was diagnosed with lung cancer 1 month ago and still trying to accept it.

[Guest guest]

sorry to hear of your diagnosis. you will meet so many great people here willing and ready to give support.

evelyncure cystic fibrosis

From: bill <oldrvnut@...>Subject: new here Date: Friday, March 20, 2009, 11:33 PM

was diagnosed with lung cancer 1 month ago and still trying to accept it.

[Guest guest]

sorry to hear of your diagnosis. you will meet so many great people here willing and ready to give support.

evelyncure cystic fibrosis

From: bill <oldrvnut@...>Subject: new here Date: Friday, March 20, 2009, 11:33 PM

was diagnosed with lung cancer 1 month ago and still trying to accept it.

[Guest guest]

WELCOME TO THE GROUP,INDIA;; I PRAY THE DRS GET TO THE BOTTOM OF THIS FOR YOU;TAKE CARE

HUGS

DORT FROM MICH U.S.A.

From: indiaw48 <indiaw48@...>Subject: new here Date: Thursday, April 2, 2009, 6:51 AM

Hiya, I'm new to this group, and I was wondering if any of you could help me identify some symtoms that i've been having for the past year or 2. Usually when I'm already a little hungry, but sometimes it can happen soon after i've eaten, I get a very strange feeling as if I'm going to faint which gets worse and worse until I eat sugar and carbohydrate. It makes me feel like my blood is very hot for some reason :-S I firstly thought it was my blood sugar, but i've had quite a few blood tests from different doctors and they haven't come up with anything. It's been going on for quite a while now and it is getting really hard for me to go out on my own because when it happens I can't look after myself. I have PCOS and was wondering if it has anything to do with that?Any help would be greatly appreciated,thanks,India :-)