Re: Re: SubQ Needle insertion

[Guest guest]

What is LMX? My 5 yo seems to do fine with EMLA but my 2 year.....it doesn't

seem to make a difference...it's almost as if I have not put anything on. Does

EMLA not work for some kids? Kim

From: sievertlaura@...

Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2011 01:15:34 +0000

Subject: Re: SubQ Needle insertion

We started out with EMLA and it didn't seem to be working as well so we

switched to LMX. We leave it on for an hour before needle insertion and it

usually helps. Even if it helps relieve some anxiety to have it on board it is

worth it. It took us a while to get to routines that usually work for us and now

Tate knows when he has a bad infusion it doesn't mean the next one will be too.

>

> What level of pain do your children experience with the insertion of the

> subQ needles and does it get better over time? We've been doing them using

> Ethyl Chloride spray, but he is still really upset and saying they hurt. We

> think much of it is anxiety, but wondering if any of you have had luck using

> LMX or Emla first? I have LMX so I can try that next week.

>

>

>

> Also, we used 2x2's and paper tape with skin prep first and it worked really

> well. The tape came right off with no issues. It held everything in place

> and it's cheap so I guess we will just go with that for now.

>

>

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>

>

> Mom to Caelan 11

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[Guest guest]

What is LMX? My 5 yo seems to do fine with EMLA but my 2 year.....it doesn't

seem to make a difference...it's almost as if I have not put anything on. Does

EMLA not work for some kids? Kim

From: sievertlaura@...

Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2011 01:15:34 +0000

Subject: Re: SubQ Needle insertion

We started out with EMLA and it didn't seem to be working as well so we

switched to LMX. We leave it on for an hour before needle insertion and it

usually helps. Even if it helps relieve some anxiety to have it on board it is

worth it. It took us a while to get to routines that usually work for us and now

Tate knows when he has a bad infusion it doesn't mean the next one will be too.

>

> What level of pain do your children experience with the insertion of the

> subQ needles and does it get better over time? We've been doing them using

> Ethyl Chloride spray, but he is still really upset and saying they hurt. We

> think much of it is anxiety, but wondering if any of you have had luck using

> LMX or Emla first? I have LMX so I can try that next week.

>

>

>

> Also, we used 2x2's and paper tape with skin prep first and it worked really

> well. The tape came right off with no issues. It held everything in place

> and it's cheap so I guess we will just go with that for now.

>

>

>

>

>

> Mom to Caelan 11

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>

>

>

[Guest guest]

My son refuses EMLA because he HATES the numb

feeling. Again he is 15 but he has been doing them without sprays or EMLA for

4 years. He says it hurts less when he does not use anything. But he also had

several years of fighting me in the middle of this time period

BARBIE

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From: Steltz <kmay77@...>

Sent: Sat, January 22, 2011 5:27:23 PM

Subject: RE: Re: SubQ Needle insertion

What is LMX? My 5 yo seems to do fine with EMLA but my 2 year.....it doesn't

seem to make a difference...it's almost as if I have not put anything on. Does

EMLA not work for some kids? Kim

From: sievertlaura@...

Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2011 01:15:34 +0000

Subject: Re: SubQ Needle insertion

We started out with EMLA and it didn't seem to be working as well so we

switched to LMX. We leave it on for an hour before needle insertion and it

usually helps. Even if it helps relieve some anxiety to have it on board it is

worth it. It took us a while to get to routines that usually work for us and now

Tate knows when he has a bad infusion it doesn't mean the next one will be too.

>

> What level of pain do your children experience with the insertion of the

> subQ needles and does it get better over time? We've been doing them using

> Ethyl Chloride spray, but he is still really upset and saying they hurt. We

> think much of it is anxiety, but wondering if any of you have had luck using

> LMX or Emla first? I have LMX so I can try that next week.

>

>

>

> Also, we used 2x2's and paper tape with skin prep first and it worked really

> well. The tape came right off with no issues. It held everything in place

> and it's cheap so I guess we will just go with that for now.

>

>

>

>

>

> Mom to Caelan 11

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

My son refuses EMLA because he HATES the numb

feeling. Again he is 15 but he has been doing them without sprays or EMLA for

4 years. He says it hurts less when he does not use anything. But he also had

several years of fighting me in the middle of this time period

BARBIE

________________________________

From: Steltz <kmay77@...>

Sent: Sat, January 22, 2011 5:27:23 PM

Subject: RE: Re: SubQ Needle insertion

What is LMX? My 5 yo seems to do fine with EMLA but my 2 year.....it doesn't

seem to make a difference...it's almost as if I have not put anything on. Does

EMLA not work for some kids? Kim

From: sievertlaura@...

Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2011 01:15:34 +0000

Subject: Re: SubQ Needle insertion

We started out with EMLA and it didn't seem to be working as well so we

switched to LMX. We leave it on for an hour before needle insertion and it

usually helps. Even if it helps relieve some anxiety to have it on board it is

worth it. It took us a while to get to routines that usually work for us and now

Tate knows when he has a bad infusion it doesn't mean the next one will be too.

>

> What level of pain do your children experience with the insertion of the

> subQ needles and does it get better over time? We've been doing them using

> Ethyl Chloride spray, but he is still really upset and saying they hurt. We

> think much of it is anxiety, but wondering if any of you have had luck using

> LMX or Emla first? I have LMX so I can try that next week.

>

>

>

> Also, we used 2x2's and paper tape with skin prep first and it worked really

> well. The tape came right off with no issues. It held everything in place

> and it's cheap so I guess we will just go with that for now.

>

>

>

>

>

> Mom to Caelan 11

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Macey's used LMX for 3 of the 4 past years. The first year she used Emla

and then the pharmacy co. changed formularies and the contract was for LMX.

Both worked well. She leaves it on for an hour.

Ursula

mom to Macey (15,CVID)

On Sun, Jan 23, 2011 at 10:02 AM, Rcurk <RCurk@...> wrote:

>

>

> When we did it, I found that if there was any product on the needle (from

> priming it) it would burn, even with EMLA. So before I inserted, I would

> take the alcohol wipe that I was going to use to clean her site an wipe the

> outside of the needle to be sure there was no product on it at all. This was

> usually all it took to make for pain free insertions. Just a thought.

>

>

> Mom to Annette, selective antibody deficiency (currently trialed off of

> SubQ), , autoimmune epilepsy (on 50g of IVIG via port every 2 weeks)

> and 4 other wonderful children.

>

> www.caringbridge.com/ny/my2angels

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

My son holds an ice cube on his site for a minute...when he is ready, I

alcohol wipe and insert. It works for him...

Kim, Mom to CVID

Re: Re: SubQ Needle insertion

> Macey's used LMX for 3 of the 4 past years. The first year she used Emla

> and then the pharmacy co. changed formularies and the contract was for

> LMX.

>

>

> Both worked well. She leaves it on for an hour.

>

> Ursula

> mom to Macey (15,CVID)

>

> On Sun, Jan 23, 2011 at 10:02 AM, Rcurk <RCurk@...> wrote:

>

>>

>>

>> When we did it, I found that if there was any product on the needle (from

>> priming it) it would burn, even with EMLA. So before I inserted, I would

>> take the alcohol wipe that I was going to use to clean her site an wipe

>> the

>> outside of the needle to be sure there was no product on it at all. This

>> was

>> usually all it took to make for pain free insertions. Just a thought.

>>

>>

>> Mom to Annette, selective antibody deficiency (currently trialed off of

>> SubQ), , autoimmune epilepsy (on 50g of IVIG via port every 2

>> weeks)

>> and 4 other wonderful children.

>>

>> www.caringbridge.com/ny/my2angels

>>

>>

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