Guest guest Posted January 31, 2010 Report Share Posted January 31, 2010 I am at my wits end. My daughter is always sick and feeling terrible. Her igg level is around 430 always and all her subclasses are low. She had a great antibody response and her b cells are normal. She also has slightly low platelet count consistantly. One dr. wants to do trial ivig infusions for a year. The other dr. says there is nothing wrong with her immune system. Anyone have any advice? This has been a 3 year ordeal. From: Pat <pat_pnrtransport@...> Subject: Blisters on the toes Date: Sunday, January 31, 2010, 10:48 PM Â My daughter (14yr) has had her 5th infusion and three days after started getting blisters on her toes. We had this problem when she was getting her infusions when she was 5yrs old. She had blisters on her hands and feet that got real bad. We quit the infusions then. But had to start back up last year. Was wondering if anyone else has had this problem. She is on Gamunex 20. As the month as gone by the blisters are getting worse. She has her next infusion on 2/5/10 hoping they don't get worse. Learning new things every day. I see alot of post on here where alot of you get the lab results back yourselves was wondering how I can go about getting them from my Dr's? They were suppose to draw labs at her last infusion. But don't think they drew what was ordered. They had a hard time getting a good vein. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 31, 2010 Report Share Posted January 31, 2010 I'm not sure I would go with the IVIG without knowing for sure that she has an immune disorder. We have never had those infusions yet, but I hear they are hard ont he kids. However, with the information you have provided, I would not necessarily believe the doctor that says her immune system is fine. My daughter has a confirmed immune disorder, but has never been sick enough to do IVIG treatments yet. So, I believe they can have problems with their immune systems, but still not be sick enough for IVIG. Do you have the option of seeing a 3rd doctor? I know it's ahuge pain in the butt to go through this whole process, but once you know for sure that you have a concrete answer, you will feel a lot better. Just my two cents worth.  Roach Mother of Hannah (2) Hyper Ige Syndrome Psalm 145:5 I will meditate on your majestic, glorious splendor and your wonderful miracles. From: Pat <pat_pnrtransport> Subject: Blisters on the toes groups (DOT) com Date: Sunday, January 31, 2010, 10:48 PM  My daughter (14yr) has had her 5th infusion and three days after started getting blisters on her toes. We had this problem when she was getting her infusions when she was 5yrs old. She had blisters on her hands and feet that got real bad. We quit the infusions then. But had to start back up last year. Was wondering if anyone else has had this problem. She is on Gamunex 20. As the month as gone by the blisters are getting worse. She has her next infusion on 2/5/10 hoping they don't get worse. Learning new things every day. I see alot of post on here where alot of you get the lab results back yourselves was wondering how I can go about getting them from my Dr's? They were suppose to draw labs at her last infusion. But don't think they drew what was ordered. They had a hard time getting a good vein. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 31, 2010 Report Share Posted January 31, 2010 Thanks for the advice. We've seen 2 allergist/immunologist. Do you think a hematolgist would be beneficial? Sorry you have a sick little one. My daughter is 13. From: Pat <pat_pnrtransport> Subject: Blisters on the toes groups (DOT) com Date: Sunday, January 31, 2010, 10:48 PM Â My daughter (14yr) has had her 5th infusion and three days after started getting blisters on her toes. We had this problem when she was getting her infusions when she was 5yrs old. She had blisters on her hands and feet that got real bad. We quit the infusions then. But had to start back up last year. Was wondering if anyone else has had this problem. She is on Gamunex 20. As the month as gone by the blisters are getting worse. She has her next infusion on 2/5/10 hoping they don't get worse. Learning new things every day. I see alot of post on here where alot of you get the lab results back yourselves was wondering how I can go about getting them from my Dr's? They were suppose to draw labs at her last infusion. But don't think they drew what was ordered. They had a hard time getting a good vein. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 31, 2010 Report Share Posted January 31, 2010 I do think a hematologist would be helpful. We actually started with an allergist/immunologist, and they referred us to a pediatric infectious disease doc. He made contact with a doctor at Duke University who is an expert on Hannah's particular syndrome. And then from there we were referred to a hematologist/oncologist that is about an hour and a half away from us. He is the one that contacted a lab in New York that did genetic testing to see if Hannah had this syndrome. The testing was even free, because they used it as research. Sorry, I had forgotten that he was a hematologist. Currently, we still see our infectious disease doc, our allergist/immunologist, and then an immunologist in Iowa City that knows a lot about her syndrome. We see the doc in Iowa City only once a year, because Hannah is doing good right now. The key, I think, is that if you honestly believe your child has an immune disorder, then keep persuing doctors until you get an answer that you are comfortable with. Immune disorders are very hard to diagnose and are missed quite often. We were blessed enough to get our answers VERY quickly in comparison to a lot of other stories I have heard. But even with that being said, we still had to push and push for answers when our baby had been on 7 different antibiotics by the time she was 5 months old, and they weren't taking care of the problem. Honestly, it's by the grace of God that we finally got our answer. I hope that you will get one soon too. Psalm 145:5 I will meditate on your majestic, glorious splendor and your wonderful miracles. From: Pat <pat_pnrtransport> Subject: Blisters on the toes groups (DOT) com Date: Sunday, January 31, 2010, 10:48 PM  My daughter (14yr) has had her 5th infusion and three days after started getting blisters on her toes. We had this problem when she was getting her infusions when she was 5yrs old. She had blisters on her hands and feet that got real bad. We quit the infusions then. But had to start back up last year. Was wondering if anyone else has had this problem. She is on Gamunex 20. As the month as gone by the blisters are getting worse. She has her next infusion on 2/5/10 hoping they don't get worse. Learning new things every day. I see alot of post on here where alot of you get the lab results back yourselves was wondering how I can go about getting them from my Dr's? They were suppose to draw labs at her last infusion. But don't think they drew what was ordered. They had a hard time getting a good vein. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 31, 2010 Report Share Posted January 31, 2010 I would encourage you to check in with a major university medical center to have another review of her system. It is possible it is something else. Generally the function of the system is more important than the numbers. But.... there could be other issues with allergies, her sinuses etc that are making her sick. I do not have enough info to give you a full opinion but clearly you have two conflicting views so you need to keep looking to come up with an appropriate plan for her. I am sure you are very frustrated and I can surely understand that. The important thing is to protect her organs from infection and to improve quality of life no matter what the treatment may be. BARBIE ________________________________ From: Roach <kmr7275@...> Sent: Sun, January 31, 2010 3:29:56 PM Subject: Re: Help! Two different drs say different things I'm not sure I would go with the IVIG without knowing for sure that she has an immune disorder. We have never had those infusions yet, but I hear they are hard ont he kids. However, with the information you have provided, I would not necessarily believe the doctor that says her immune system is fine. My daughter has a confirmed immune disorder, but has never been sick enough to do IVIG treatments yet. So, I believe they can have problems with their immune systems, but still not be sick enough for IVIG. Do you have the option of seeing a 3rd doctor? I know it's ahuge pain in the butt to go through this whole process, but once you know for sure that you have a concrete answer, you will feel a lot better. Just my two cents worth. Roach Mother of Hannah (2) Hyper Ige Syndrome Psalm 145:5 I will meditate on your majestic, glorious splendor and your wonderful miracles. From: Pat <pat_pnrtransport> Subject: Blisters on the toes groups (DOT) com Date: Sunday, January 31, 2010, 10:48 PM My daughter (14yr) has had her 5th infusion and three days after started getting blisters on her toes. We had this problem when she was getting her infusions when she was 5yrs old. She had blisters on her hands and feet that got real bad. We quit the infusions then. But had to start back up last year. Was wondering if anyone else has had this problem. She is on Gamunex 20. As the month as gone by the blisters are getting worse. She has her next infusion on 2/5/10 hoping they don't get worse. Learning new things every day. I see alot of post on here where alot of you get the lab results back yourselves was wondering how I can go about getting them from my Dr's? They were suppose to draw labs at her last infusion. But don't think they drew what was ordered. They had a hard time getting a good vein. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 3, 2010 Report Share Posted February 3, 2010 I would go with the dr who wants to trial IVIG. I have three kids on it, initially we " trialed " it to see if it would help.....and it really did. There were a few initial hiccups trying to find the right rate, dose and premends but once those were ironed out I would not want to go back to the way it was before. My kids have been on IVIG for four yrs almost and life for them is so much better. You already know what her quality of life is w/o IVIG, why not try it out and see if she gets better on it? valarie > > From: Pat <pat_pnrtransport> > Subject: Blisters on the toes > groups (DOT) com > Date: Sunday, January 31, 2010, 10:48 PM > > Â > > My daughter (14yr) has had her 5th infusion and three days after started getting blisters on her toes. We had this problem when she was getting her infusions when she was 5yrs old. She had blisters on her hands and feet that got real bad. We quit the infusions then. But had to start back up last year. Was wondering if anyone else has had this problem. She is on Gamunex 20. As the month as gone by the blisters are getting worse. She has her next infusion on 2/5/10 hoping they don't get worse. Learning new things every day. > I see alot of post on here where alot of you get the lab results back yourselves was wondering how I can go about getting them from my Dr's? > They were suppose to draw labs at her last infusion. But don't think they drew what was ordered. They had a hard time getting a good vein. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 3, 2010 Report Share Posted February 3, 2010 I would have to agree with osdbmom as far as IVIG. My daughter just started it in October but the most that she has been sick since then is an itchy throat this week. Besides that she is doing great. She has been in the best health of her life. She gets a 3-4 hour transfusion once a month and is hyper as soon as its over like she has been transfused with pure energy. She feels great immediatly afterwards and is ready to be back at school the next morning with no problem. It seems to me that if one of your doctors is recommending IVIG transfusions then at least give them a try. I learned through everything that it takes time for them to work. But after 3 months or so you should see an improvement at least of some sort. In Sept my babys (8 yrs old) igg was 380 and last month when they drew her she was 755. I almost couldnt believe it myself. From: osdbmom <osdbmom@...> Subject: Re: Help! Two different drs say different things Date: Wednesday, February 3, 2010, 9:51 AM  I would go with the dr who wants to trial IVIG. I have three kids on it, initially we " trialed " it to see if it would help.....and it really did. There were a few initial hiccups trying to find the right rate, dose and premends but once those were ironed out I would not want to go back to the way it was before. My kids have been on IVIG for four yrs almost and life for them is so much better. You already know what her quality of life is w/o IVIG, why not try it out and see if she gets better on it? valarie > > From: Pat <pat_pnrtransport> > Subject: Blisters on the toes > groups (DOT) com > Date: Sunday, January 31, 2010, 10:48 PM > >  > > My daughter (14yr) has had her 5th infusion and three days after started getting blisters on her toes. We had this problem when she was getting her infusions when she was 5yrs old. She had blisters on her hands and feet that got real bad. We quit the infusions then. But had to start back up last year. Was wondering if anyone else has had this problem. She is on Gamunex 20. As the month as gone by the blisters are getting worse. She has her next infusion on 2/5/10 hoping they don't get worse. Learning new things every day. > I see alot of post on here where alot of you get the lab results back yourselves was wondering how I can go about getting them from my Dr's? > They were suppose to draw labs at her last infusion. But don't think they drew what was ordered. They had a hard time getting a good vein. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 3, 2010 Report Share Posted February 3, 2010 Go with what you believe in your gut to be right. I did not believe my first immunologist was right about his diagnosis and after a year of him waiting to see, and her continually be so sick and admitted to the hospital over and over, I saw a second doctor who diagnosed her with CVID. Her titers were only 2 of 14 protective, HIB was low. IgG had fallen from the end of November check at 418 to January 14th check to 378, and all but one IgG subclass was low. And she is IgA deficient. Now that we are AGAIN sitting in the hospital with another infection and also now has a port, I'm all ready to try some immune therapy for her. HUGS!!! Mom to Reiley 3.5 years old/unspecified metabolic syndrome/CVID On Wed, Feb 3, 2010 at 8:51 AM, osdbmom <osdbmom@...> wrote: > > > I would go with the dr who wants to trial IVIG. I have three kids on it, > initially we " trialed " it to see if it would help.....and it really did. > There were a few initial hiccups trying to find the right rate, dose and > premends but once those were ironed out I would not want to go back to the > way it was before. My kids have been on IVIG for four yrs almost and life > for them is so much better. > You already know what her quality of life is w/o IVIG, why not try it out > and see if she gets better on it? > > valarie > > > > > > From: Pat <pat_pnrtransport> > > Subject: Blisters on the toes > > groups (DOT) com > > Date: Sunday, January 31, 2010, 10:48 PM > > > > Â > > > > My daughter (14yr) has had her 5th infusion and three days after started > getting blisters on her toes. We had this problem when she was getting her > infusions when she was 5yrs old. She had blisters on her hands and feet that > got real bad. We quit the infusions then. But had to start back up last > year. Was wondering if anyone else has had this problem. She is on Gamunex > 20. As the month as gone by the blisters are getting worse. She has her next > infusion on 2/5/10 hoping they don't get worse. Learning new things every > day. > > I see alot of post on here where alot of you get the lab results back > yourselves was wondering how I can go about getting them from my Dr's? > > They were suppose to draw labs at her last infusion. But don't think they > drew what was ordered. They had a hard time getting a good vein. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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