Guest guest Posted October 10, 2010 Report Share Posted October 10, 2010 I can relate. Wish I could make a wish and make every thing better for you, but I can't. Just know I'm sending good thoughts out to the universe to you. Hang in there. It does get better. Patti On Oct 10, 2010 5:48 PM, " onewhorled " <onewhorled@...> wrote: > Just not feeling great... not taking care of myself... bingeing. I am OK. > just feeling slightly hopeless. > > -- > Avie Linden > University of Michigan - Anthropology > Program in the Environment, History of Art > 248.535.0521 > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 10, 2010 Report Share Posted October 10, 2010 Avie, I just wanted to say you are not alone. I wish I had the words or half the eloquence that you have - unfortunately I do not . Please hang in there and know that you have people out in the world (even Lansing) that care & are rooting for you. Please take care, On Oct 10, 2010, at 8:48 PM, onewhorled <onewhorled@...> wrote: > Just not feeling great... not taking care of myself... bingeing. I am OK. > just feeling slightly hopeless. > > -- > Avie Linden > University of Michigan - Anthropology > Program in the Environment, History of Art > 248.535.0521 > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 11, 2010 Report Share Posted October 11, 2010 thanks! still bingeing... one day will be different. On Mon, Oct 11, 2010 at 1:22 AM, <kristinglatz@...> wrote: > > > Avie, I just wanted to say you are not alone. I wish I had the words or > half the eloquence that you have - unfortunately I do not . Please hang in > there and know that you have people out in the world (even Lansing) that > care & are rooting for you. > Please take care, > > On Oct 10, 2010, at 8:48 PM, onewhorled <onewhorled@...<onewhorled%40gmail.com>> > wrote: > > > Just not feeling great... not taking care of myself... bingeing. I am OK. > > just feeling slightly hopeless. > > > > -- > > Avie Linden > > University of Michigan - Anthropology > > Program in the Environment, History of Art > > 248.535.0521 > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 26, 2011 Report Share Posted March 26, 2011 I totally get how you feel Avie. My eating is also triggered by being alone. I know I have to stop and think about what's fueling the desire to eat when I'm alone - most of the time, it isn't hunger, it's loneliness. Telling myself that even though it might be satisfying in the moment, in the long run eating is not going to fill the emotional need sometimes helps me stop. Sometimes it doesn't, but it usually still helps me make a healthier food choice or eat less. Don't be hard on yourself. Tomorrow's a new chance to do things better! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 2, 2011 Report Share Posted April 2, 2011 Hi Avie, I'm sorry you're in a bad place. I don't know what to say, except that I've felt that way before too. There was a time when I hated waking up in the morning... at least when I was sleeping, I had some peace. The moment I woke up, all my worries and problems were there waiting for me. I've struggled with eating disorders for a decade. It wasn't constant. There were periods of months, even years, when it didn't surface, although I was always " weird around food " and had a bad mentality towards food, exercise, and life in general. It's better to work on the underlying problems, even if they're incredibly yucky. Because, if you just ignore or bury the ED, it will resurface later on. If you don't feel that prayer is the answer, then don't force yourself to do so. I am not religious in any fashion. I have never prayed, and yet I have made huge strides in overcoming my ED. I still mess up, yes. I still have some disordered thoughts. But since I've had those thoughts and behaviours and most of my adult life, they're not going to vanish overnight. It's about baby steps. Do one small thing each day. If you can do several small things each day, that's a bonus. But just set your goal to do one. It's achievable and the feeling of success will breed more success. Sending you lots of hugs. With love, Yuna > > well, i binged again. i feel lost and like Life is not worth living. > why do i need this much attention from others? how do u feel > satisfied? do u pray? because i have a hard time with that.. if > praying is the only way out of this eating disorder... i may never > leave. i know there's an internal block (re: prayer.. there is nothing > " wrong " with prayer)... i'm not even really listening to IOWL on a > regular basis. sometimes, the only thing i feel like i am doing is > counting calories/NOT bingeing... and it's enough, until (on nights > like tonight.. when i decide i dont want to hang out with my parents > anymore and i get angry) it's not enough and i binge. > > i want to type curse words. i think i'm fat and that doesn't help. i > guess i'm still avoiding the scale, so that's good. just > sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo frustrated, etc. > > Avie > > -- > Avie Linden > University of Michigan - Anthropology > Program in the Environment, History of Art > 248.535.0521 > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 2, 2011 Report Share Posted April 2, 2011 Hi Avie, I'm sorry you're in a bad place. I don't know what to say, except that I've felt that way before too. There was a time when I hated waking up in the morning... at least when I was sleeping, I had some peace. The moment I woke up, all my worries and problems were there waiting for me. I've struggled with eating disorders for a decade. It wasn't constant. There were periods of months, even years, when it didn't surface, although I was always " weird around food " and had a bad mentality towards food, exercise, and life in general. It's better to work on the underlying problems, even if they're incredibly yucky. Because, if you just ignore or bury the ED, it will resurface later on. If you don't feel that prayer is the answer, then don't force yourself to do so. I am not religious in any fashion. I have never prayed, and yet I have made huge strides in overcoming my ED. I still mess up, yes. I still have some disordered thoughts. But since I've had those thoughts and behaviours and most of my adult life, they're not going to vanish overnight. It's about baby steps. Do one small thing each day. If you can do several small things each day, that's a bonus. But just set your goal to do one. It's achievable and the feeling of success will breed more success. Sending you lots of hugs. With love, Yuna > > well, i binged again. i feel lost and like Life is not worth living. > why do i need this much attention from others? how do u feel > satisfied? do u pray? because i have a hard time with that.. if > praying is the only way out of this eating disorder... i may never > leave. i know there's an internal block (re: prayer.. there is nothing > " wrong " with prayer)... i'm not even really listening to IOWL on a > regular basis. sometimes, the only thing i feel like i am doing is > counting calories/NOT bingeing... and it's enough, until (on nights > like tonight.. when i decide i dont want to hang out with my parents > anymore and i get angry) it's not enough and i binge. > > i want to type curse words. i think i'm fat and that doesn't help. i > guess i'm still avoiding the scale, so that's good. just > sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo frustrated, etc. > > Avie > > -- > Avie Linden > University of Michigan - Anthropology > Program in the Environment, History of Art > 248.535.0521 > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 2, 2011 Report Share Posted April 2, 2011 Avie; Did you have the feeling that life is not worth living because you binged, or because you felt lost? That's an aweful feeling, that lost feeling, like being lost at sea. I get it, too. Every time I binge. My binges don't do that to me anymore, quite as much. Because over time my binges have, very gradually, gotten smaller. As says, I " Self-correct " a little better each time. And a little sooner. But it has taken a long time, and it's not " over " yet. In fact, herself has said that she is a naturally slender person " One day at a time " . It's not something you are absolutely over, especially not overnight. This group exists because you are not the only person who binges. You've got lots of company. And we are not giving up on you. If life is all about being perfect, then I can see why you'd reason that a binge makes it not worth living-but I disagree. All of us who binge have to recover from the binge, pick ourselves back up and then try to figure out what happened. We all have to decide that we are worth the self-forgiveness, the humbling, and the effort it takes to try again. So in my mind You are worth it, too. If your life is over because of a binge, I see that as a huge waste of a human being who was courageous enough to embark on the journey of recovery from overeating. I hope you change your mind about that. I hope you'll dare to forgive yourself. I hope you'll see a binge as just a part of life, and also as a doorway into what's going on inside you, where your pain lives, and the first page of the story that is your journey with food. Everybody who ever lived has had a story of their journey with food. And every story is unique. Is it worth it to continue living to find out what that story is, to unravel that pain, to find more of You? I hope for that, too. Take good care of you. Robbie  ________________________________ From: onewhorled <onewhorled@...> weightloss Sent: Sat, April 2, 2011 12:09:54 AM Subject: IOWL  well, i binged again. i feel lost and like Life is not worth living. why do i need this much attention from others? how do u feel satisfied? do u pray? because i have a hard time with that.. if praying is the only way out of this eating disorder... i may never leave. i know there's an internal block (re: prayer.. there is nothing " wrong " with prayer)... i'm not even really listening to IOWL on a regular basis. sometimes, the only thing i feel like i am doing is counting calories/NOT bingeing... and it's enough, until (on nights like tonight.. when i decide i dont want to hang out with my parents anymore and i get angry) it's not enough and i binge. i want to type curse words. i think i'm fat and that doesn't help. i guess i'm still avoiding the scale, so that's good. just sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo frustrated, etc. Avie -- Avie Linden University of Michigan - Anthropology Program in the Environment, History of Art 248.535.0521 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 2, 2011 Report Share Posted April 2, 2011 Avie; Did you have the feeling that life is not worth living because you binged, or because you felt lost? That's an aweful feeling, that lost feeling, like being lost at sea. I get it, too. Every time I binge. My binges don't do that to me anymore, quite as much. Because over time my binges have, very gradually, gotten smaller. As says, I " Self-correct " a little better each time. And a little sooner. But it has taken a long time, and it's not " over " yet. In fact, herself has said that she is a naturally slender person " One day at a time " . It's not something you are absolutely over, especially not overnight. This group exists because you are not the only person who binges. You've got lots of company. And we are not giving up on you. If life is all about being perfect, then I can see why you'd reason that a binge makes it not worth living-but I disagree. All of us who binge have to recover from the binge, pick ourselves back up and then try to figure out what happened. We all have to decide that we are worth the self-forgiveness, the humbling, and the effort it takes to try again. So in my mind You are worth it, too. If your life is over because of a binge, I see that as a huge waste of a human being who was courageous enough to embark on the journey of recovery from overeating. I hope you change your mind about that. I hope you'll dare to forgive yourself. I hope you'll see a binge as just a part of life, and also as a doorway into what's going on inside you, where your pain lives, and the first page of the story that is your journey with food. Everybody who ever lived has had a story of their journey with food. And every story is unique. Is it worth it to continue living to find out what that story is, to unravel that pain, to find more of You? I hope for that, too. Take good care of you. Robbie  ________________________________ From: onewhorled <onewhorled@...> weightloss Sent: Sat, April 2, 2011 12:09:54 AM Subject: IOWL  well, i binged again. i feel lost and like Life is not worth living. why do i need this much attention from others? how do u feel satisfied? do u pray? because i have a hard time with that.. if praying is the only way out of this eating disorder... i may never leave. i know there's an internal block (re: prayer.. there is nothing " wrong " with prayer)... i'm not even really listening to IOWL on a regular basis. sometimes, the only thing i feel like i am doing is counting calories/NOT bingeing... and it's enough, until (on nights like tonight.. when i decide i dont want to hang out with my parents anymore and i get angry) it's not enough and i binge. i want to type curse words. i think i'm fat and that doesn't help. i guess i'm still avoiding the scale, so that's good. just sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo frustrated, etc. Avie -- Avie Linden University of Michigan - Anthropology Program in the Environment, History of Art 248.535.0521 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 2, 2011 Report Share Posted April 2, 2011 thank you all for sharing these things.. i am trying to change and there is so much to change it is easy to give up . Instead of focusing like on one or two things i have been trying to change it all and then i get discouraged. listened to a podcast and that helped some i think . and these messages help too Andolyn From: sarahsimone_soliman <sarahsimone_soliman@...> Subject: Re: IOWL weightloss Date: Saturday, April 2, 2011, 3:10 PM Â I'm so sorry that you're feeling this down Avie. When I get very depressed, I try to set small goals for myself. Sometimes, my To Do List is " brush teeth. " And as long as I meet that small goal, I can feel like I accomplished something that day. Maybe you can take small steps like that? What if, instead of trying to completely stop yourself from binging, you set goals like " eat one piece of fruit today " , " take a walk around the block " , or " listen to one IOWL podcast " ? Meeting even a small goal like that can make you feel better about yourself, and be a stepping stone on the way back to a healthier emotional space. Sending you good thoughts! I hope things start to get better soon. > > well, i binged again. i feel lost and like Life is not worth living. > why do i need this much attention from others? how do u feel > satisfied? do u pray? because i have a hard time with that.. if > praying is the only way out of this eating disorder... i may never > leave. i know there's an internal block (re: prayer.. there is nothing > " wrong " with prayer)... i'm not even really listening to IOWL on a > regular basis. sometimes, the only thing i feel like i am doing is > counting calories/NOT bingeing... and it's enough, until (on nights > like tonight.. when i decide i dont want to hang out with my parents > anymore and i get angry) it's not enough and i binge. > > i want to type curse words. i think i'm fat and that doesn't help. i > guess i'm still avoiding the scale, so that's good. just > sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo frustrated, etc. > > Avie > > -- > Avie Linden > University of Michigan - Anthropology > Program in the Environment, History of Art > 248.535.0521 > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 2, 2011 Report Share Posted April 2, 2011 thank you all for sharing these things.. i am trying to change and there is so much to change it is easy to give up . Instead of focusing like on one or two things i have been trying to change it all and then i get discouraged. listened to a podcast and that helped some i think . and these messages help too Andolyn From: sarahsimone_soliman <sarahsimone_soliman@...> Subject: Re: IOWL weightloss Date: Saturday, April 2, 2011, 3:10 PM Â I'm so sorry that you're feeling this down Avie. When I get very depressed, I try to set small goals for myself. Sometimes, my To Do List is " brush teeth. " And as long as I meet that small goal, I can feel like I accomplished something that day. Maybe you can take small steps like that? What if, instead of trying to completely stop yourself from binging, you set goals like " eat one piece of fruit today " , " take a walk around the block " , or " listen to one IOWL podcast " ? Meeting even a small goal like that can make you feel better about yourself, and be a stepping stone on the way back to a healthier emotional space. Sending you good thoughts! I hope things start to get better soon. > > well, i binged again. i feel lost and like Life is not worth living. > why do i need this much attention from others? how do u feel > satisfied? do u pray? because i have a hard time with that.. if > praying is the only way out of this eating disorder... i may never > leave. i know there's an internal block (re: prayer.. there is nothing > " wrong " with prayer)... i'm not even really listening to IOWL on a > regular basis. sometimes, the only thing i feel like i am doing is > counting calories/NOT bingeing... and it's enough, until (on nights > like tonight.. when i decide i dont want to hang out with my parents > anymore and i get angry) it's not enough and i binge. > > i want to type curse words. i think i'm fat and that doesn't help. i > guess i'm still avoiding the scale, so that's good. just > sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo frustrated, etc. > > Avie > > -- > Avie Linden > University of Michigan - Anthropology > Program in the Environment, History of Art > 248.535.0521 > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 2, 2011 Report Share Posted April 2, 2011 I understand......So totally understand. I told my therpaist a couple of days ago about my own despair and at that particular moment the only " why " I felt so awful was the fact that I was fat. Of course I know that is not what is really going on and I have to find ways to go deeper. I am not sure but one of the the things happening for me right now is a new job that is very time consuming and the loss of the time I had to do many of the things that I love....And my deep fear that I cant be enough, that I will not be able to do the job the way it should be done and that my fear that my on going battle with depression will surface and..... So anyway I get it. Is there one thing you could pinpoint? Why do you think that you are seeking attention from others? If that is true, I wonder why. If you can pinpoint a why is there some way you can think of to try and heal a bit of that wound right now. Is there anything that you can do that will validate your feelings? Prayer, may or may not be what you need right now. What do you think you need? Hugs and good luck, Jen ________________________________ From: onewhorled <onewhorled@...> weightloss Sent: Sat, April 2, 2011 12:09:54 AM Subject: IOWL  well, i binged again. i feel lost and like Life is not worth living. why do i need this much attention from others? how do u feel satisfied? do u pray? because i have a hard time with that.. if praying is the only way out of this eating disorder... i may never leave. i know there's an internal block (re: prayer.. there is nothing " wrong " with prayer)... i'm not even really listening to IOWL on a regular basis. sometimes, the only thing i feel like i am doing is counting calories/NOT bingeing... and it's enough, until (on nights like tonight.. when i decide i dont want to hang out with my parents anymore and i get angry) it's not enough and i binge. i want to type curse words. i think i'm fat and that doesn't help. i guess i'm still avoiding the scale, so that's good. just sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo frustrated, etc. Avie -- Avie Linden University of Michigan - Anthropology Program in the Environment, History of Art 248.535.0521 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 2, 2011 Report Share Posted April 2, 2011 Robbie, Lovely, insightful post/ Thanks. Jen ________________________________ From: Robbie Knight <greeenknight@...> weightloss Sent: Sat, April 2, 2011 6:50:23 AM Subject: Re: IOWL  Avie; Did you have the feeling that life is not worth living because you binged, or because you felt lost? That's an aweful feeling, that lost feeling, like being lost at sea. I get it, too. Every time I binge. My binges don't do that to me anymore, quite as much. Because over time my binges have, very gradually, gotten smaller. As says, I " Self-correct " a little better each time. And a little sooner. But it has taken a long time, and it's not " over " yet. In fact, herself has said that she is a naturally slender person " One day at a time " . It's not something you are absolutely over, especially not overnight. This group exists because you are not the only person who binges. You've got lots of company. And we are not giving up on you. If life is all about being perfect, then I can see why you'd reason that a binge makes it not worth living-but I disagree. All of us who binge have to recover from the binge, pick ourselves back up and then try to figure out what happened. We all have to decide that we are worth the self-forgiveness, the humbling, and the effort it takes to try again. So in my mind You are worth it, too. If your life is over because of a binge, I see that as a huge waste of a human being who was courageous enough to embark on the journey of recovery from overeating. I hope you change your mind about that. I hope you'll dare to forgive yourself. I hope you'll see a binge as just a part of life, and also as a doorway into what's going on inside you, where your pain lives, and the first page of the story that is your journey with food. Everybody who ever lived has had a story of their journey with food. And every story is unique. Is it worth it to continue living to find out what that story is, to unravel that pain, to find more of You? I hope for that, too. Take good care of you. Robbie  ________________________________ From: onewhorled <onewhorled@...> weightloss Sent: Sat, April 2, 2011 12:09:54 AM Subject: IOWL  well, i binged again. i feel lost and like Life is not worth living. why do i need this much attention from others? how do u feel satisfied? do u pray? because i have a hard time with that.. if praying is the only way out of this eating disorder... i may never leave. i know there's an internal block (re: prayer.. there is nothing " wrong " with prayer)... i'm not even really listening to IOWL on a regular basis. sometimes, the only thing i feel like i am doing is counting calories/NOT bingeing... and it's enough, until (on nights like tonight.. when i decide i dont want to hang out with my parents anymore and i get angry) it's not enough and i binge. i want to type curse words. i think i'm fat and that doesn't help. i guess i'm still avoiding the scale, so that's good. just sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo frustrated, etc. Avie -- Avie Linden University of Michigan - Anthropology Program in the Environment, History of Art 248.535.0521 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 4, 2011 Report Share Posted April 4, 2011 Hi Avie, I agree with Tania. Sometimes a binge is like shoving anger down your throat. It's said that women often channel their anger inwards, and a binge can be one way to do it. Avie, could it also be that binging is a habit for you that you are cruising on auto-pilot? I know for me that binging was so routine and a " normal " part of my day that even though nothing was bugging me and the thought of a binge never crossed my mind, I would finding myself binging then purging out of habit! Like any habit, it can take effort to break and you have to be willing to struggle and sit with the discomfort. I say struggle in the sense that not doing something that is routine (even if it is unhealthy) can make you feel out of sorts. Lastly, have you tried sessions with or another professional like her? I'm thinking back to her podcasts on first, second, and third line of defences. We are, of course, always here for you and offering you our love and support, but we may not be able to help you in the way that a professional can. Be positive today, and don't dwell on what happened yesterday. Hugs, Yuna > > Avie, > > ((HUGS)) You binged. It's all good. You tomorrow or the day after that you won't. By the way, have you notice what days you binge? It seems there is a pattern there. You will go strong for a week, then you will binge. I wonder what you would find if you kept a record for a couple of months on a calendar? Just make it a yes/no record. You will be able to visualize your pattern, possibly. I feel like you just become fatigued from keeping pace with all that you do. What do you think? > Also, I had a weird thought the other day as I was putting something in my mouth. It actually felt like I was shoving the angry emotion I was experiencing in my mouth. It was almost a vision from a horror movie. What happens if you look at your food as you emotions? Do they still taste good? What do you see? > Random thoughts. I don't know what you can take from it, but I would be interested to see the non binge days in a different light... > Take care! > T > Sent on the Sprint® Now Network from my BlackBerry® > > IOWL > > Hello to the group. Again, I just want to let everyone know that I > binged tonight... > > that is all. > Avie > > -- > Avie Linden > University of Michigan - Anthropology > Program in the Environment, History of Art > 248.535.0521 > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 4, 2011 Report Share Posted April 4, 2011 Avie, That must mean that you need some extra love and big, long hug. Consider it given! Jen ________________________________ From: onewhorled <onewhorled@...> weightloss Sent: Sun, April 3, 2011 10:54:16 PM Subject: IOWL  Hello to the group. Again, I just want to let everyone know that I binged tonight... that is all. Avie -- Avie Linden University of Michigan - Anthropology Program in the Environment, History of Art 248.535.0521 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 4, 2011 Report Share Posted April 4, 2011 thanks. i know that recently, there is a pattern and weekends are usually when i start to binge. i think i'm sad and lonely... sometimes angry. i appreciate the thoughts. grateful for the Price is Right! thanks, Avie On Mon, Apr 4, 2011 at 6:10 AM, ylesca12 <ylesca12@...> wrote: > > > > > Hi Avie, > > I agree with Tania. Sometimes a binge is like shoving anger down your > throat. It's said that women often channel their anger inwards, and a binge > can be one way to do it. > > Avie, could it also be that binging is a habit for you that you are > cruising on auto-pilot? I know for me that binging was so routine and a > " normal " part of my day that even though nothing was bugging me and the > thought of a binge never crossed my mind, I would finding myself binging > then purging out of habit! Like any habit, it can take effort to break and > you have to be willing to struggle and sit with the discomfort. I say > struggle in the sense that not doing something that is routine (even if it > is unhealthy) can make you feel out of sorts. > > Lastly, have you tried sessions with or another professional like > her? I'm thinking back to her podcasts on first, second, and third line of > defences. We are, of course, always here for you and offering you our love > and support, but we may not be able to help you in the way that a > professional can. > > Be positive today, and don't dwell on what happened yesterday. > > Hugs, > Yuna > > > > > > > Avie, > > > > ((HUGS)) You binged. It's all good. You tomorrow or the day after that > you won't. By the way, have you notice what days you binge? It seems there > is a pattern there. You will go strong for a week, then you will binge. I > wonder what you would find if you kept a record for a couple of months on a > calendar? Just make it a yes/no record. You will be able to visualize your > pattern, possibly. I feel like you just become fatigued from keeping pace > with all that you do. What do you think? > > Also, I had a weird thought the other day as I was putting something in > my mouth. It actually felt like I was shoving the angry emotion I was > experiencing in my mouth. It was almost a vision from a horror movie. What > happens if you look at your food as you emotions? Do they still taste good? > What do you see? > > Random thoughts. I don't know what you can take from it, but I would be > interested to see the non binge days in a different light... > > Take care! > > T > > Sent on the Sprint® Now Network from my BlackBerry® > > > > IOWL > > > > Hello to the group. Again, I just want to let everyone know that I > > binged tonight... > > > > that is all. > > Avie > > > > -- > > Avie Linden > > University of Michigan - Anthropology > > Program in the Environment, History of Art > > 248.535.0521 > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 4, 2011 Report Share Posted April 4, 2011 thanks jen. feels nice On Mon, Apr 4, 2011 at 12:26 PM, Livingston <jenniferpl@...>wrote: > > > Avie, > > That must mean that you need some extra love and big, long hug. Consider > it > given! > > Jen > > ________________________________ > From: onewhorled <onewhorled@...> > weightloss > Sent: Sun, April 3, 2011 10:54:16 PM > > Subject: IOWL > > > Hello to the group. Again, I just want to let everyone know that I > binged tonight... > > that is all. > Avie > > -- > Avie Linden > University of Michigan - Anthropology > Program in the Environment, History of Art > 248.535.0521 > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 4, 2011 Report Share Posted April 4, 2011 Hi onewhorled, I too am a weekend binger and I'm working my way through my bad habits. I realized that I was doing it for relaxation. Which then led me to realize that I haven't been taking good care of myself. Then I had to take inventory of where I could start to make changes. Now, I haven't perfectly implemented these changes, but I at least have the awareness. My binging was trying to show me something. Anyway, I'm saying all of this to say, perhaps you can just start to explore your feelings. I think it's best to reflect back on them instead of trying to tackle them in the moment. I tried that and all I could think was, " I don't want to explore my feelings. I want a freakin' cookie!! " But I like to just think back to how I felt and talk through it in my head. I hope this helps. > > > > > > Avie, > > > > > > ((HUGS)) You binged. It's all good. You tomorrow or the day after that > > you won't. By the way, have you notice what days you binge? It seems there > > is a pattern there. You will go strong for a week, then you will binge. I > > wonder what you would find if you kept a record for a couple of months on a > > calendar? Just make it a yes/no record. You will be able to visualize your > > pattern, possibly. I feel like you just become fatigued from keeping pace > > with all that you do. What do you think? > > > Also, I had a weird thought the other day as I was putting something in > > my mouth. It actually felt like I was shoving the angry emotion I was > > experiencing in my mouth. It was almost a vision from a horror movie. What > > happens if you look at your food as you emotions? Do they still taste good? > > What do you see? > > > Random thoughts. I don't know what you can take from it, but I would be > > interested to see the non binge days in a different light... > > > Take care! > > > T > > > Sent on the Sprint� Now Network from my BlackBerry� > > > > > > IOWL > > > > > > Hello to the group. Again, I just want to let everyone know that I > > > binged tonight... > > > > > > that is all. > > > Avie > > > > > > -- > > > Avie Linden > > > University of Michigan - Anthropology > > > Program in the Environment, History of Art > > > 248.535.0521 begin_of_the_skype_highlighting              248.535.0521    Â\  end_of_the_skype_highlighting > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 15, 2011 Report Share Posted April 15, 2011 binged again. you may not hear from me for a while. thanks for all your support, Avie -- Avie Linden University of Michigan - Anthropology Program in the Environment, History of Art 248.535.0521 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 15, 2011 Report Share Posted April 15, 2011 Avie, Me too....sturggling right now. Please keep posting and keep trying to love yourself and forgive yourself for any perceived failure. Bingeing is not the worst thing in the world, being fat is not bad.....You are a supportive, kind person. That is truly what is important.... Hugs to you. Jen Keep posting.  ________________________________ From: onewhorled <onewhorled@...> weightloss Sent: Fri, April 15, 2011 9:20:00 AM Subject: IOWL  binged again. you may not hear from me for a while. thanks for all your support, Avie -- Avie Linden University of Michigan - Anthropology Program in the Environment, History of Art 248.535.0521 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 15, 2011 Report Share Posted April 15, 2011 Avie, Me too....sturggling right now. Please keep posting and keep trying to love yourself and forgive yourself for any perceived failure. Bingeing is not the worst thing in the world, being fat is not bad.....You are a supportive, kind person. That is truly what is important.... Hugs to you. Jen Keep posting.  ________________________________ From: onewhorled <onewhorled@...> weightloss Sent: Fri, April 15, 2011 9:20:00 AM Subject: IOWL  binged again. you may not hear from me for a while. thanks for all your support, Avie -- Avie Linden University of Michigan - Anthropology Program in the Environment, History of Art 248.535.0521 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 16, 2011 Report Share Posted April 16, 2011 and Avie... Sigh.....I've been struggling too! I have eaten way too much and feel lethargic and bloated and frustrated... You are right but the negative seems to be winning out today. Avie I wish there was a magic wand that I could wave that would help you and and me too but I it's up to us to live the best life we can. I'll try today but it's going to be a struggle to be positive. One way that always helps me is thinking of what I am thankful for. I am thankful to be alive and healthy. I am thankful that I have food to eat and a warm home on this very rainy day in Greece. I am thankful for my wonderful children and husband. I am thankful that I have clean water to drink and that we have jobs. And I am thankful to have friends who love me just as I am. What are you thankful for Avie?? Even today when you have eaten more than you would have liked?? Hugs to both of you... From: onewhorled <onewhorled@...> weightloss Sent: Saturday, April 16, 2011 6:11 PM Subject: Re: IOWL thanks Jen. I woke up this morning and binged immediately... so, today is not looking food. this is three days in a row. I'm just not taking care of myself. I am pushing everyone away. I'm very frustrated and know that there is this beautiful life right around the corner, but I'm stuck waiting for a bus that will never come, convinced of nothing. tomorrow it is. Avie On Fri, Apr 15, 2011 at 11:53 AM, Livingston <jenniferpl@...>wrote: > > > Avie, > > Me too....sturggling right now. Please keep posting and keep trying to > love > yourself and forgive yourself for any perceived failure. Bingeing is not > the > worst thing in the world, being fat is not bad.....You are a supportive, > kind > person. That is truly what is important.... > > Hugs to you. > > Jen > > Keep posting. > > > > ________________________________ > From: onewhorled <onewhorled@...> > weightloss > Sent: Fri, April 15, 2011 9:20:00 AM > Subject: IOWL > > > > binged again. you may not hear from me for a while. > > thanks for all your support, > Avie > > -- > Avie Linden > University of Michigan - Anthropology > Program in the Environment, History of Art > 248.535.0521 > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 16, 2011 Report Share Posted April 16, 2011 and Avie... Sigh.....I've been struggling too! I have eaten way too much and feel lethargic and bloated and frustrated... You are right but the negative seems to be winning out today. Avie I wish there was a magic wand that I could wave that would help you and and me too but I it's up to us to live the best life we can. I'll try today but it's going to be a struggle to be positive. One way that always helps me is thinking of what I am thankful for. I am thankful to be alive and healthy. I am thankful that I have food to eat and a warm home on this very rainy day in Greece. I am thankful for my wonderful children and husband. I am thankful that I have clean water to drink and that we have jobs. And I am thankful to have friends who love me just as I am. What are you thankful for Avie?? Even today when you have eaten more than you would have liked?? Hugs to both of you... From: onewhorled <onewhorled@...> weightloss Sent: Saturday, April 16, 2011 6:11 PM Subject: Re: IOWL thanks Jen. I woke up this morning and binged immediately... so, today is not looking food. this is three days in a row. I'm just not taking care of myself. I am pushing everyone away. I'm very frustrated and know that there is this beautiful life right around the corner, but I'm stuck waiting for a bus that will never come, convinced of nothing. tomorrow it is. Avie On Fri, Apr 15, 2011 at 11:53 AM, Livingston <jenniferpl@...>wrote: > > > Avie, > > Me too....sturggling right now. Please keep posting and keep trying to > love > yourself and forgive yourself for any perceived failure. Bingeing is not > the > worst thing in the world, being fat is not bad.....You are a supportive, > kind > person. That is truly what is important.... > > Hugs to you. > > Jen > > Keep posting. > > > > ________________________________ > From: onewhorled <onewhorled@...> > weightloss > Sent: Fri, April 15, 2011 9:20:00 AM > Subject: IOWL > > > > binged again. you may not hear from me for a while. > > thanks for all your support, > Avie > > -- > Avie Linden > University of Michigan - Anthropology > Program in the Environment, History of Art > 248.535.0521 > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 16, 2011 Report Share Posted April 16, 2011 yeah... no. didn't happen. thanks tho. On Sat, Apr 16, 2011 at 12:47 PM, Colleen <collrobinson@...>wrote: > > > Avie, > > don't wait for tomorrow (it never comes) - start now, start today ... > > each time you put something in your mouth, it's an opportunity to do either > a pre-do or a re-do. What you did this morning is over -- you're starting > again, right now! > Don't wait for the bus, go to the next stop (maybe the one you're waiting > at is the wrong one!) > > > ________________________________ > From: onewhorled <onewhorled@...> > weightloss > Sent: Saturday, April 16, 2011 8:11 AM > Subject: Re: IOWL > > > thanks Jen. I woke up this morning and binged immediately... so, today is > not looking food. this is three days in a row. I'm just not taking care of > myself. I am pushing everyone away. > > I'm very frustrated and know that there is this beautiful life right around > the corner, but I'm stuck waiting for a bus that will never come, convinced > of nothing. > > tomorrow it is. > Avie > > On Fri, Apr 15, 2011 at 11:53 AM, Livingston > <jenniferpl@...>wrote: > > > > > > > Avie, > > > > Me too....sturggling right now. Please keep posting and keep trying to > > love > > yourself and forgive yourself for any perceived failure. Bingeing is not > > the > > worst thing in the world, being fat is not bad.....You are a supportive, > > kind > > person. That is truly what is important.... > > > > Hugs to you. > > > > Jen > > > > Keep posting. > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > From: onewhorled <onewhorled@...> > > weightloss > > Sent: Fri, April 15, 2011 9:20:00 AM > > Subject: IOWL > > > > > > > > binged again. you may not hear from me for a while. > > > > thanks for all your support, > > Avie > > > > -- > > Avie Linden > > University of Michigan - Anthropology > > Program in the Environment, History of Art > > 248.535.0521 > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 16, 2011 Report Share Posted April 16, 2011 yeah... no. didn't happen. thanks tho. On Sat, Apr 16, 2011 at 12:47 PM, Colleen <collrobinson@...>wrote: > > > Avie, > > don't wait for tomorrow (it never comes) - start now, start today ... > > each time you put something in your mouth, it's an opportunity to do either > a pre-do or a re-do. What you did this morning is over -- you're starting > again, right now! > Don't wait for the bus, go to the next stop (maybe the one you're waiting > at is the wrong one!) > > > ________________________________ > From: onewhorled <onewhorled@...> > weightloss > Sent: Saturday, April 16, 2011 8:11 AM > Subject: Re: IOWL > > > thanks Jen. I woke up this morning and binged immediately... so, today is > not looking food. this is three days in a row. I'm just not taking care of > myself. I am pushing everyone away. > > I'm very frustrated and know that there is this beautiful life right around > the corner, but I'm stuck waiting for a bus that will never come, convinced > of nothing. > > tomorrow it is. > Avie > > On Fri, Apr 15, 2011 at 11:53 AM, Livingston > <jenniferpl@...>wrote: > > > > > > > Avie, > > > > Me too....sturggling right now. Please keep posting and keep trying to > > love > > yourself and forgive yourself for any perceived failure. Bingeing is not > > the > > worst thing in the world, being fat is not bad.....You are a supportive, > > kind > > person. That is truly what is important.... > > > > Hugs to you. > > > > Jen > > > > Keep posting. > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > From: onewhorled <onewhorled@...> > > weightloss > > Sent: Fri, April 15, 2011 9:20:00 AM > > Subject: IOWL > > > > > > > > binged again. you may not hear from me for a while. > > > > thanks for all your support, > > Avie > > > > -- > > Avie Linden > > University of Michigan - Anthropology > > Program in the Environment, History of Art > > 248.535.0521 > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 16, 2011 Report Share Posted April 16, 2011 To everyone who's out of balance right now.... A THOUGHT FOR TODAY: No one imagines that symphony is supposed to improve as it goes along, or that the whole object of playing is to reach the finale. The point of music is discovered in every moment of playing and listening to it. It is the same, I feel, with the greater part of our lives, and if we are unduly absorbed in improving them we may forget altogether to live them. -Alan Watts, philosopher, writer, and speaker (1915-1973) I'm also a bit off center at the moment--but somehow it doesn't feel like I'm struggling. Mostly because I'm no longer afraid that if I overate--or even, gasp, binged--yesterday, that it shows what will happen every day for the rest of my life. Instead, I feel that there's an opportunity here to figure out something that can be changed. There's some (OK, a lot of) dissonance in the the symphony right now--but it has its own beauty. Not to mention that when it spills into consonance, the resolution will feel that much better. Otherwise, we might as well just listen to Muzak....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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