Self-acceptance

[Guest guest]

I have always had problems with mild depression that I kept under control by

running, meditation, and other management techniques that worked for me, but

when I had a combination of 3 really stressful life events, I began

suffering deeply and went on an anti-depressant. Along with helping my

depression, though, it absolutely killed my desire to run and I gained

weight.

I have been able to take off most of the weight and recently have gone off

the meds and again manage through exercise. I have always been lacrimose,

and if I let up, I can feel that weepy feeling coming on and it motivates me

to hit the road running.

I am not at my goal weight and I have to be very careful about depression,

but I am for sure out of that negative spiral. I think what helped me was

FINALLY getting treatment for a sleep disorder. I had had different doctors

tell me I needed to go to a sleep clinic but I just didn't follow through

until I was desperate. I am allergic to a few common things and while I

am OK with basic precautions, found that my throat closes up at night. I

have been on a breathing machine, with very mild pressure, for about 3

years, and I now have the energy during the day to make the right choices.

So I am being long- winded - but I guess I am saying that I have been there,

and there is hope. Have a good medical checkup and make sure that there are

no underlying physical conditions, but just keep plugging away with the

medications and other things that are proven to work for depression.

Exercise and good cognitive behavior therapy are statistically as good as

meds in treating depression so you could try a triple-whammy. (I started by

walking my dog every night for a week, then he guilted me into it and it is

now just what we do - I don't even think about it.)

My totally non-medical advice is based on anecdotal evidence from myself

only, but if you don't get over the depression, you will not have the

emotional energy to sustain weight loss. Weight loss comes from your head,

but you also have to make " structural " changes - finding new recipes, making

new habits, changing your appliances even, making healthy easy and unhealthy

hard - and that is a lot to deal with even without depression. Try not to

gain, but don't worry about losing. Low-carb for sure can make depression

worse, so avoid that.

A lot of people don't like this, but I am most successful when I get on the

scale every single day. I automatically do a better job of weight

maintenance, and it is easier for me to cope if I just face it first thing

every day and get it out of the way.

You will be able to pull out of this - one day you will realize that you

have reversed course and are feeling better, lost half a pound, needed to

go walking instead of making yourself, or whatever else is important to

you.

On Sat, Nov 21, 2009 at 3:38 PM, PamelaT <pamteel173@...> wrote:

>

>

> I have been really struggling with my weight lose for a while now, I

> dropped a total of 51 lbs in a matter of a couple months a year ago. I have

> been dealing with depression for about two years, but after losing the

> weight it seem to help until about 10 months ago when the medicatation

> stopped working for me and I had to change to diffrent anti-depressents. I

> gained a total of 30 pound back, and the depression has continued to get

> worse because of the weight gain, as well as other things. I have come to

> the conclusion that to be absoulutly successful at losing weight and keeping

> it off I first need to work on the underlying issues. This feel's impossible

> for me. I have tried many of 's suggested techniques for

> self-acceptance and I just cannot find it with-in myself to accept who I am

> and how I look. Can anyone give me some advice on how I can learn that I am

> okay even though I may not be perfect??? Please it seem's that everyday that

> goes by I seem to get more and more frustrated with this circumstance.

> Thank you so much

> Pamela Teel

>

> Oh and I want to congradulated all those who have been so successful with

> your journey, and to those of you who are new it is very nice to meet you

> and good luck with you journey

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

When I am unhappy with a decision I have made I try to think of myself as

another person. I wouldn't be mean to another person for goofing up. I would hug

and comfort them. So, therefore, I will hug and comfort myself. Jean 

From: PamelaT <pamteel173@...>

Subject: Self-acceptance

weightloss

Date: Saturday, November 21, 2009, 4:38 PM

 

I have been really struggling with my weight lose for a while now, I

dropped a total of 51 lbs in a matter of a couple months a year ago. I have

been dealing with depression for about two years, but after losing the weight it

seem to help until about 10 months ago when the medicatation stopped working for

me and I had to change to diffrent anti-depressents. I gained a total of 30

pound back, and the depression has continued to get worse because of the weight

gain, as well as other things. I have come to the conclusion that to be

absoulutly successful at losing weight and keeping it off I first need to work

on the underlying issues. This feel's impossible for me. I have tried many of

's suggested techniques for self-acceptance and I just cannot find it

with-in myself to accept who I am and how I look. Can anyone give me some

advice on how I can learn that I am okay even though I may not be perfect???

Please it seem's that everyday that

goes by I seem to get more and more frustrated with this circumstance.

Thank you so much

Pamela Teel

Oh and I want to congradulated all those who have been so successful with your

journey, and to those of you who are new it is very nice to meet you and good

luck with you journey

[Guest guest]

Hey Pamela:

CONGRATULATIONS ON YOUR TREMENDOUS WEIGHT LOSS! So what you gained

some back, you still lost a significant amount and that is what I

would focus on. You are dealing with some complicated issues:

depression, meds, etc. and amidst it all you are reaching out for

help and being incredibly honest and open. BRAVO FOR YOU!! Many of

us isolate when we feel the way you are feeling so it is a gift you

are giving to others to share your pain.

There are several techniques I use when I get into the place you seem

to be. I focus on the present and remember at any given moment I have

a choice of how I want to think and therefore feel. I can beat up on

myself or love and accept myself. It is always my choice.

EFT (Emotional Freedom Technique) works great for this as well. It

allows you to acknowledge however you are feeling about yourself and

then to practice loving and accepting yourself over and over again

while shifting the energy around this issue. If you haven't gotten to

the podcasts where teaches it, you can go on youtube and find

countless videos under EFT and Self Acceptance or Body Acceptance,

etc. See if anything resonates with you.

With much love,

On Nov 21, 2009, at 4:38 PM, PamelaT wrote:

> I have been really struggling with my weight lose for a while now, I

> dropped a total of 51 lbs in a matter of a couple months a year ago.

> I have been dealing with depression for about two years, but after

> losing the weight it seem to help until about 10 months ago when the

> medicatation stopped working for me and I had to change to diffrent

> anti-depressents. I gained a total of 30 pound back, and the

> depression has continued to get worse because of the weight gain, as

> well as other things. I have come to the conclusion that to be

> absoulutly successful at losing weight and keeping it off I first

> need to work on the underlying issues. This feel's impossible for

> me. I have tried many of 's suggested techniques for self-

> acceptance and I just cannot find it with-in myself to accept who I

> am and how I look. Can anyone give me some advice on how I can learn

> that I am okay even though I may not be perfect??? Please it seem's

> that everyday that goes by I seem to get more and more frustrated

> with this circumstance.

> Thank you so much

> Pamela Teel

>

> Oh and I want to congradulated all those who have been so successful

> with your journey, and to those of you who are new it is very nice

> to meet you and good luck with you journey

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Pamela,

If you have not had a full check on your vitamin levels through a

blood test by your doc also get one of those done. Low levels of B

vitamins or D also make it difficult to overcome depression. Even if I

miss mine for a day or two, as I seem to run low on both no matter

what I eat or how much time I'm outside, and I start having light

symptoms of depression. That with the meds, exercise, therapy, and any

of the other various other tools out there that work for you can help

you through. Being able to reach out and ask for help while depressed

is an amazing ability. That alone shows you'll be able to beat this

and as soon as it's back under control you'll start losing again.

Concerning being perfect, you point someone out to me that is perfect.

Perfection does not exist. And there is not one individual in this

world that is. You are uniquely imperfect in your perfect way which

makes you human and an amazing person. When you finally realize and

accept that you start to really appreciate yourself. It took me a long

time to get that and there are many times I have to remind myself. ð—

Good luck!

Jen

Sent from my iPhone

>

>

[Guest guest]

Jami,

you are my hero!!! You rock girl!

lori

 Amazing day

________________________________

From: Jami Nettles <jami.nettles@...>

weightloss

Sent: Sat, November 21, 2009 7:30:08 PM

Subject: Re: Self-acceptance

 

I have always had problems with mild depression that I kept under control by

running, meditation, and other management techniques that worked for me, but

when I had a combination of 3 really stressful life events, I began

suffering deeply and went on an anti-depressant. Along with helping my

depression, though, it absolutely killed my desire to run and I gained

weight.

I have been able to take off most of the weight and recently have gone off

the meds and again manage through exercise. I have always been lacrimose,

and if I let up, I can feel that weepy feeling coming on and it motivates me

to hit the road running.

I am not at my goal weight and I have to be very careful about depression,

but I am for sure out of that negative spiral. I think what helped me was

FINALLY getting treatment for a sleep disorder. I had had different doctors

tell me I needed to go to a sleep clinic but I just didn't follow through

until I was desperate. I am allergic to a few common things and while I

am OK with basic precautions, found that my throat closes up at night. I

have been on a breathing machine, with very mild pressure, for about 3

years, and I now have the energy during the day to make the right choices.

So I am being long- winded - but I guess I am saying that I have been there,

and there is hope. Have a good medical checkup and make sure that there are

no underlying physical conditions, but just keep plugging away with the

medications and other things that are proven to work for depression.

Exercise and good cognitive behavior therapy are statistically as good as

meds in treating depression so you could try a triple-whammy. (I started by

walking my dog every night for a week, then he guilted me into it and it is

now just what we do - I don't even think about it.)

My totally non-medical advice is based on anecdotal evidence from myself

only, but if you don't get over the depression, you will not have the

emotional energy to sustain weight loss. Weight loss comes from your head,

but you also have to make " structural " changes - finding new recipes, making

new habits, changing your appliances even, making healthy easy and unhealthy

hard - and that is a lot to deal with even without depression. Try not to

gain, but don't worry about losing. Low-carb for sure can make depression

worse, so avoid that.

A lot of people don't like this, but I am most successful when I get on the

scale every single day. I automatically do a better job of weight

maintenance, and it is easier for me to cope if I just face it first thing

every day and get it out of the way.

You will be able to pull out of this - one day you will realize that you

have reversed course and are feeling better, lost half a pound, needed to

go walking instead of making yourself, or whatever else is important to

you.

On Sat, Nov 21, 2009 at 3:38 PM, PamelaT <pamteel173 (DOT) com> wrote:

>

>

> I have been really struggling with my weight lose for a while now, I

> dropped a total of 51 lbs in a matter of a couple months a year ago. I have

> been dealing with depression for about two years, but after losing the

> weight it seem to help until about 10 months ago when the medicatation

> stopped working for me and I had to change to diffrent anti-depressents. I

> gained a total of 30 pound back, and the depression has continued to get

> worse because of the weight gain, as well as other things. I have come to

> the conclusion that to be absoulutly successful at losing weight and keeping

> it off I first need to work on the underlying issues. This feel's impossible

> for me. I have tried many of 's suggested techniques for

> self-acceptance and I just cannot find it with-in myself to accept who I am

> and how I look. Can anyone give me some advice on how I can learn that I am

> okay even though I may not be perfect??? Please it seem's that everyday that

> goes by I seem to get more and more frustrated with this circumstance.

> Thank you so much

> Pamela Teel

>

> Oh and I want to congradulated all those who have been so successful with

> your journey, and to those of you who are new it is very nice to meet you

> and good luck with you journey

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Jami,

you are my hero!!! You rock girl!

lori

 Amazing day

________________________________

From: Jami Nettles <jami.nettles@...>

weightloss

Sent: Sat, November 21, 2009 7:30:08 PM

Subject: Re: Self-acceptance

 

I have always had problems with mild depression that I kept under control by

running, meditation, and other management techniques that worked for me, but

when I had a combination of 3 really stressful life events, I began

suffering deeply and went on an anti-depressant. Along with helping my

depression, though, it absolutely killed my desire to run and I gained

weight.

I have been able to take off most of the weight and recently have gone off

the meds and again manage through exercise. I have always been lacrimose,

and if I let up, I can feel that weepy feeling coming on and it motivates me

to hit the road running.

I am not at my goal weight and I have to be very careful about depression,

but I am for sure out of that negative spiral. I think what helped me was

FINALLY getting treatment for a sleep disorder. I had had different doctors

tell me I needed to go to a sleep clinic but I just didn't follow through

until I was desperate. I am allergic to a few common things and while I

am OK with basic precautions, found that my throat closes up at night. I

have been on a breathing machine, with very mild pressure, for about 3

years, and I now have the energy during the day to make the right choices.

So I am being long- winded - but I guess I am saying that I have been there,

and there is hope. Have a good medical checkup and make sure that there are

no underlying physical conditions, but just keep plugging away with the

medications and other things that are proven to work for depression.

Exercise and good cognitive behavior therapy are statistically as good as

meds in treating depression so you could try a triple-whammy. (I started by

walking my dog every night for a week, then he guilted me into it and it is

now just what we do - I don't even think about it.)

My totally non-medical advice is based on anecdotal evidence from myself

only, but if you don't get over the depression, you will not have the

emotional energy to sustain weight loss. Weight loss comes from your head,

but you also have to make " structural " changes - finding new recipes, making

new habits, changing your appliances even, making healthy easy and unhealthy

hard - and that is a lot to deal with even without depression. Try not to

gain, but don't worry about losing. Low-carb for sure can make depression

worse, so avoid that.

A lot of people don't like this, but I am most successful when I get on the

scale every single day. I automatically do a better job of weight

maintenance, and it is easier for me to cope if I just face it first thing

every day and get it out of the way.

You will be able to pull out of this - one day you will realize that you

have reversed course and are feeling better, lost half a pound, needed to

go walking instead of making yourself, or whatever else is important to

you.

On Sat, Nov 21, 2009 at 3:38 PM, PamelaT <pamteel173 (DOT) com> wrote:

>

>

> I have been really struggling with my weight lose for a while now, I

> dropped a total of 51 lbs in a matter of a couple months a year ago. I have

> been dealing with depression for about two years, but after losing the

> weight it seem to help until about 10 months ago when the medicatation

> stopped working for me and I had to change to diffrent anti-depressents. I

> gained a total of 30 pound back, and the depression has continued to get

> worse because of the weight gain, as well as other things. I have come to

> the conclusion that to be absoulutly successful at losing weight and keeping

> it off I first need to work on the underlying issues. This feel's impossible

> for me. I have tried many of 's suggested techniques for

> self-acceptance and I just cannot find it with-in myself to accept who I am

> and how I look. Can anyone give me some advice on how I can learn that I am

> okay even though I may not be perfect??? Please it seem's that everyday that

> goes by I seem to get more and more frustrated with this circumstance.

> Thank you so much

> Pamela Teel

>

> Oh and I want to congradulated all those who have been so successful with

> your journey, and to those of you who are new it is very nice to meet you

> and good luck with you journey

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Thank you so much Jami, you are so right this has helped so much. I think it is

time for me to work on my depression first so that I can become successful at

rebuilding myself from the outside in. I think that this is going to be a

struggle because I feel that the weight is at the root of my depression, but I

need to first deal with it. I also realize now that exercise, and maybe some

vitamin B12, and D will also help.

Thank you so much

Pamela

>

> >

> >

> > I have been really struggling with my weight lose for a while now, I

> > dropped a total of 51 lbs in a matter of a couple months a year ago. I have

> > been dealing with depression for about two years, but after losing the

> > weight it seem to help until about 10 months ago when the medicatation

> > stopped working for me and I had to change to diffrent anti-depressents. I

> > gained a total of 30 pound back, and the depression has continued to get

> > worse because of the weight gain, as well as other things. I have come to

> > the conclusion that to be absoulutly successful at losing weight and keeping

> > it off I first need to work on the underlying issues. This feel's impossible

> > for me. I have tried many of 's suggested techniques for

> > self-acceptance and I just cannot find it with-in myself to accept who I am

> > and how I look. Can anyone give me some advice on how I can learn that I am

> > okay even though I may not be perfect??? Please it seem's that everyday that

> > goes by I seem to get more and more frustrated with this circumstance.

> > Thank you so much

> > Pamela Teel

> >

> > Oh and I want to congradulated all those who have been so successful with

> > your journey, and to those of you who are new it is very nice to meet you

> > and good luck with you journey

> >

> >

> >

>

>

[Guest guest]

Thank you Jen, I am going to get some vitamin B, and D right now, my perscriber

told me that those will help with my depression but I of course did not listen.

after sleeping an entire weekend I think that it is high time that I listen.

Thank you

Pamela

>

> Pamela,

>

> If you have not had a full check on your vitamin levels through a

> blood test by your doc also get one of those done. Low levels of B

> vitamins or D also make it difficult to overcome depression. Even if I

> miss mine for a day or two, as I seem to run low on both no matter

> what I eat or how much time I'm outside, and I start having light

> symptoms of depression. That with the meds, exercise, therapy, and any

> of the other various other tools out there that work for you can help

> you through. Being able to reach out and ask for help while depressed

> is an amazing ability. That alone shows you'll be able to beat this

> and as soon as it's back under control you'll start losing again.

>

> Concerning being perfect, you point someone out to me that is perfect.

> Perfection does not exist. And there is not one individual in this

> world that is. You are uniquely imperfect in your perfect way which

> makes you human and an amazing person. When you finally realize and

> accept that you start to really appreciate yourself. It took me a long

> time to get that and there are many times I have to remind myself. ð—

>

> Good luck!

> Jen

>

> Sent from my iPhone

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Thank you I will check that out

Pamela

>

> > I have been really struggling with my weight lose for a while now, I

> > dropped a total of 51 lbs in a matter of a couple months a year ago.

> > I have been dealing with depression for about two years, but after

> > losing the weight it seem to help until about 10 months ago when the

> > medicatation stopped working for me and I had to change to diffrent

> > anti-depressents. I gained a total of 30 pound back, and the

> > depression has continued to get worse because of the weight gain, as

> > well as other things. I have come to the conclusion that to be

> > absoulutly successful at losing weight and keeping it off I first

> > need to work on the underlying issues. This feel's impossible for

> > me. I have tried many of 's suggested techniques for self-

> > acceptance and I just cannot find it with-in myself to accept who I

> > am and how I look. Can anyone give me some advice on how I can learn

> > that I am okay even though I may not be perfect??? Please it seem's

> > that everyday that goes by I seem to get more and more frustrated

> > with this circumstance.

> > Thank you so much

> > Pamela Teel

> >

> > Oh and I want to congradulated all those who have been so successful

> > with your journey, and to those of you who are new it is very nice

> > to meet you and good luck with you journey

> >

> >

> >

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I just read an article on self-acceptance, and unfortunately I did not

bookmark it. When I tried to google it, the combination of words gave me

sites I really did not want to see! But I liked one of the pointers - get

a massage - it is a non-threatening way to feel good about your body and to

associate your body with pleasure and to feel good in your own skin. (I

assume sex would fall in this category too but not with your massage

therapist!!!)

I did find this link - not the one I was looking for, but I thought it was

lovely anyway:

http://www.massagetherapy.com/articles/index.php/article_id/1121/Body-Image

If you can't afford to treat yourself to the full spa experience, massage

therapy schools often have practice nights at very little cost. I did this

once last year - the students are required to have supervised in-class hours

and they are glad to have the practice. The ambience was nil but the

massage was great.

[Guest guest]

Hello all, Thank you everybody for your reply's to my self-acceptence message.

I got some great input and am now on my way to accepting myself, and all my

flaw's as well as the positive things about myself. Thank you so much it means

the world to me. As my struggle has been hard I have found one thing that makes

a diffrence. What is teaching us is true. Last year I took off 51 pounds

in just a few months. A lot of exersice (about three hours a day) which is only

possible if you really have nothing else to do. I was also perscribed the drug

phentremine. It helped tremendously but with that after taking it for 6 months

I became addicted, and then came down. I have officially reached the weight as

to which I started taking the drug. So with that I must say there is no quick

way out of it. It must consist of inside change before we can work on the

outside. I have found that out the hardest way. Although I am unhappy with the

results I have asked myself the question as too what am I to learn from this

experience? It is this, there is no quick way to change the habits that we have

installed into our everyday behavior. This takes a large change, and it must be

done one small step at a time. So with this I leave this message. We can all

do it, and it helps to have social support. Thank you all for this great

oppertunnity to be part of this group.

Thank you so much

Happy holidays to all

Love

Pam