Re: New realization (was Re: I just can't get my hear around visuali

[Guest guest]

Hi, . As someone who is 9 inches shorter than you are, with

narrow shoulders and hips and very small wrists, I certainly hope you

would NOT wear size 0 or 2. I have found that it is healthier for me to

focus on my size as opposed to numbers on the scale--not only because

muscle weighs more than fat, etc. but because weight fluctuates so

much--size does not. And what's appropriate for my body is obviously not

what is appropriate for yours. I am sorry if the details of my goals

brought out memories of your own struggles, that was not my intention.

Please keep in mind that I had 160/100 blood pressure and borderline

diabetic blood sugar when I was a size 10. Size 10 is really unhealthy

and large on my frame--and probably just right for many women who have a

larger or taller frame. If you want a sense of how small boned I am, and

you're familiar with US ring sizing, I have rings made for my dominant

ring finger as a size 4 3/4, and wear a size 4 1/2 on my other hand.

Also, as far as Portia de Rossi's comment about " childlike " bodies go, if

you look at east Asia, particularly the population of China, a good

quarter of the population of the world has naturally " childlike " body

types by western standards. Broad hips and large busts do not naturally

occur in the majority of women in east Asia, and those women who are

descended from them. I agree with Ms. DeRossi that a naturally curvy

woman of European descent shouldn't try to have a " childlike " body--but I

don't think she's thinking about other gene pools!

Someone on a blog I read said something about one's " feel great weight "

where you don't have to starve yourself to be there and you feel the best.

I feel best when I'm fit and a size 2. I'm naturally there, if I stay

active and eat healthy foods and portions 80-90% of the time. Spending a

lot of time in hospitals and worrying and grieving sent me diving into

chocolate emotionally--that's the only reason I'm NOT still that size. As

I self-correct back out of the emotional eating, it's the size I'll

gravitate to. It's improving slowly, but I had a setback a week ago when

one of our cats died.

I think 's ideas are good for those of us who have a history of

eating for emotional reasons regardless of where we fall on the scale.

Blessings

Sue

[Guest guest]

Sue,

I am sorry I responded with what must have appeared to be anxiety about pants

size.  In truth I am so used to discussing health and weight without using

numbers because it can be highly triggering to people who struggle with eating

disorders - at least - those who struggle with anorexia or bulimia.... I wonder

if it is true for others who have food and body issues that do not include

anorexia or bulimia?

One thing is certain that we are all built differentlly.  However, I also know

that when we get extreme on either side of the equation - way too thin or way

too heavy - we mask what may be our naturally slim body.  I think that is hard

for many of us to recognize what naturally slim looks like for us individually

and instead use images that idealize women as our goal images----If we dont know

what is normal for ourselves and we grew up in families with food issues and

weight struggles it can sometimes not be apparent what naturally slim looks

like, it makes using sizes or weight a difficult way to figure our way with the

weight.

I try to follow a healthy diet, which means to me healthy portions with adequate

calories as well as nutritionally powerful foods that satisfy my cravings

(breads).  I try to excercise daily and of course avoid eating disordered

behaviors.  But all of this is a journey and I am still trying to find my way

to

naturally thin and healthy.

Thanks to all of you for your support on this site.

Jen

________________________________

From: " sue_tanida@... " <sue_tanida@...>

weightloss

Sent: Mon, January 31, 2011 2:25:54 PM

Subject: Re: New realization (was Re: I just can't get my

hear around visuali

 

Hi, . As someone who is 9 inches shorter than you are, with

narrow shoulders and hips and very small wrists, I certainly hope you

would NOT wear size 0 or 2. I have found that it is healthier for me to

focus on my size as opposed to numbers on the scale--not only because

muscle weighs more than fat, etc. but because weight fluctuates so

much--size does not. And what's appropriate for my body is obviously not

what is appropriate for yours. I am sorry if the details of my goals

brought out memories of your own struggles, that was not my intention.

Please keep in mind that I had 160/100 blood pressure and borderline

diabetic blood sugar when I was a size 10. Size 10 is really unhealthy

and large on my frame--and probably just right for many women who have a

larger or taller frame. If you want a sense of how small boned I am, and

you're familiar with US ring sizing, I have rings made for my dominant

ring finger as a size 4 3/4, and wear a size 4 1/2 on my other hand.

Also, as far as Portia de Rossi's comment about " childlike " bodies go, if

you look at east Asia, particularly the population of China, a good

quarter of the population of the world has naturally " childlike " body

types by western standards. Broad hips and large busts do not naturally

occur in the majority of women in east Asia, and those women who are

descended from them. I agree with Ms. DeRossi that a naturally curvy

woman of European descent shouldn't try to have a " childlike " body--but I

don't think she's thinking about other gene pools!

Someone on a blog I read said something about one's " feel great weight "

where you don't have to starve yourself to be there and you feel the best.

I feel best when I'm fit and a size 2. I'm naturally there, if I stay

active and eat healthy foods and portions 80-90% of the time. Spending a

lot of time in hospitals and worrying and grieving sent me diving into

chocolate emotionally--that's the only reason I'm NOT still that size. As

I self-correct back out of the emotional eating, it's the size I'll

gravitate to. It's improving slowly, but I had a setback a week ago when

one of our cats died.

I think 's ideas are good for those of us who have a history of

eating for emotional reasons regardless of where we fall on the scale.

Blessings

Sue

[Guest guest]

Sue,

I am sorry I responded with what must have appeared to be anxiety about pants

size.  In truth I am so used to discussing health and weight without using

numbers because it can be highly triggering to people who struggle with eating

disorders - at least - those who struggle with anorexia or bulimia.... I wonder

if it is true for others who have food and body issues that do not include

anorexia or bulimia?

One thing is certain that we are all built differentlly.  However, I also know

that when we get extreme on either side of the equation - way too thin or way

too heavy - we mask what may be our naturally slim body.  I think that is hard

for many of us to recognize what naturally slim looks like for us individually

and instead use images that idealize women as our goal images----If we dont know

what is normal for ourselves and we grew up in families with food issues and

weight struggles it can sometimes not be apparent what naturally slim looks

like, it makes using sizes or weight a difficult way to figure our way with the

weight.

I try to follow a healthy diet, which means to me healthy portions with adequate

calories as well as nutritionally powerful foods that satisfy my cravings

(breads).  I try to excercise daily and of course avoid eating disordered

behaviors.  But all of this is a journey and I am still trying to find my way

to

naturally thin and healthy.

Thanks to all of you for your support on this site.

Jen

________________________________

From: " sue_tanida@... " <sue_tanida@...>

weightloss

Sent: Mon, January 31, 2011 2:25:54 PM

Subject: Re: New realization (was Re: I just can't get my

hear around visuali

 

Hi, . As someone who is 9 inches shorter than you are, with

narrow shoulders and hips and very small wrists, I certainly hope you

would NOT wear size 0 or 2. I have found that it is healthier for me to

focus on my size as opposed to numbers on the scale--not only because

muscle weighs more than fat, etc. but because weight fluctuates so

much--size does not. And what's appropriate for my body is obviously not

what is appropriate for yours. I am sorry if the details of my goals

brought out memories of your own struggles, that was not my intention.

Please keep in mind that I had 160/100 blood pressure and borderline

diabetic blood sugar when I was a size 10. Size 10 is really unhealthy

and large on my frame--and probably just right for many women who have a

larger or taller frame. If you want a sense of how small boned I am, and

you're familiar with US ring sizing, I have rings made for my dominant

ring finger as a size 4 3/4, and wear a size 4 1/2 on my other hand.

Also, as far as Portia de Rossi's comment about " childlike " bodies go, if

you look at east Asia, particularly the population of China, a good

quarter of the population of the world has naturally " childlike " body

types by western standards. Broad hips and large busts do not naturally

occur in the majority of women in east Asia, and those women who are

descended from them. I agree with Ms. DeRossi that a naturally curvy

woman of European descent shouldn't try to have a " childlike " body--but I

don't think she's thinking about other gene pools!

Someone on a blog I read said something about one's " feel great weight "

where you don't have to starve yourself to be there and you feel the best.

I feel best when I'm fit and a size 2. I'm naturally there, if I stay

active and eat healthy foods and portions 80-90% of the time. Spending a

lot of time in hospitals and worrying and grieving sent me diving into

chocolate emotionally--that's the only reason I'm NOT still that size. As

I self-correct back out of the emotional eating, it's the size I'll

gravitate to. It's improving slowly, but I had a setback a week ago when

one of our cats died.

I think 's ideas are good for those of us who have a history of

eating for emotional reasons regardless of where we fall on the scale.

Blessings

Sue

[Guest guest]

Relaxed intent...... is working for me.

I don't ever weigh myself. I am also not working out. I found that the gift that

my weight is trying to give me is calm and restful peace. I am practicing not

trying to take on all the world and delegate some of the work around here to the

others so that I can have peacefulness and Joy like others do. Anxiety and

bitterness and lack of sleep have been robbing me of the wonderful like I have.

I also try to read and add to my gratitude list. When I feel anxious I sit

and listen to a nature Cd for ten/ fifteen min and ask that my positive energy

to let peaceful or calmness rest around me. I get so anxious sometime by all

I have to do that by dinner time I feel shaky and irritable. I also don't sleep

well so that is something I am working on too.  

Hugs Constance in Mich.

From: Livingston <jenniferpl@...>

Subject: Re: Re: New realization (was Re: I just can't get

my hear around visuali

weightloss

Date: Monday, January 31, 2011, 4:31 PM

 

Sue,

I am sorry I responded with what must have appeared to be anxiety about pants

size.  In truth I am so used to discussing health and weight without using

numbers because it can be highly triggering to people who struggle with eating

disorders - at least - those who struggle with anorexia or bulimia.... I wonder

if it is true for others who have food and body issues that do not include

anorexia or bulimia?

One thing is certain that we are all built differentlly.  However, I also know

that when we get extreme on either side of the equation - way too thin or way

too heavy - we mask what may be our naturally slim body.  I think that is hard

for many of us to recognize what naturally slim looks like for us individually

and instead use images that idealize women as our goal images----If we dont know

what is normal for ourselves and we grew up in families with food issues and

weight struggles it can sometimes not be apparent what naturally slim looks

like, it makes using sizes or weight a difficult way to figure our way with the

weight.

I try to follow a healthy diet, which means to me healthy portions with adequate

calories as well as nutritionally powerful foods that satisfy my cravings

(breads).  I try to excercise daily and of course avoid eating disordered

behaviors.  But all of this is a journey and I am still trying to find my way

to

naturally thin and healthy.

Thanks to all of you for your support on this site.

Jen

________________________________

From: " sue_tanida@... " <sue_tanida@...>

weightloss

Sent: Mon, January 31, 2011 2:25:54 PM

Subject: Re: New realization (was Re: I just can't get my

hear around visuali

 

Hi, . As someone who is 9 inches shorter than you are, with

narrow shoulders and hips and very small wrists, I certainly hope you

would NOT wear size 0 or 2. I have found that it is healthier for me to

focus on my size as opposed to numbers on the scale--not only because

muscle weighs more than fat, etc. but because weight fluctuates so

much--size does not. And what's appropriate for my body is obviously not

what is appropriate for yours. I am sorry if the details of my goals

brought out memories of your own struggles, that was not my intention.

Please keep in mind that I had 160/100 blood pressure and borderline

diabetic blood sugar when I was a size 10. Size 10 is really unhealthy

and large on my frame--and probably just right for many women who have a

larger or taller frame. If you want a sense of how small boned I am, and

you're familiar with US ring sizing, I have rings made for my dominant

ring finger as a size 4 3/4, and wear a size 4 1/2 on my other hand.

Also, as far as Portia de Rossi's comment about " childlike " bodies go, if

you look at east Asia, particularly the population of China, a good

quarter of the population of the world has naturally " childlike " body

types by western standards. Broad hips and large busts do not naturally

occur in the majority of women in east Asia, and those women who are

descended from them. I agree with Ms. DeRossi that a naturally curvy

woman of European descent shouldn't try to have a " childlike " body--but I

don't think she's thinking about other gene pools!

Someone on a blog I read said something about one's " feel great weight "

where you don't have to starve yourself to be there and you feel the best.

I feel best when I'm fit and a size 2. I'm naturally there, if I stay

active and eat healthy foods and portions 80-90% of the time. Spending a

lot of time in hospitals and worrying and grieving sent me diving into

chocolate emotionally--that's the only reason I'm NOT still that size. As

I self-correct back out of the emotional eating, it's the size I'll

gravitate to. It's improving slowly, but I had a setback a week ago when

one of our cats died.

I think 's ideas are good for those of us who have a history of

eating for emotional reasons regardless of where we fall on the scale.

Blessings

Sue

[Guest guest]

Relaxed intent...... is working for me.

I don't ever weigh myself. I am also not working out. I found that the gift that

my weight is trying to give me is calm and restful peace. I am practicing not

trying to take on all the world and delegate some of the work around here to the

others so that I can have peacefulness and Joy like others do. Anxiety and

bitterness and lack of sleep have been robbing me of the wonderful like I have.

I also try to read and add to my gratitude list. When I feel anxious I sit

and listen to a nature Cd for ten/ fifteen min and ask that my positive energy

to let peaceful or calmness rest around me. I get so anxious sometime by all

I have to do that by dinner time I feel shaky and irritable. I also don't sleep

well so that is something I am working on too.  

Hugs Constance in Mich.

From: Livingston <jenniferpl@...>

Subject: Re: Re: New realization (was Re: I just can't get

my hear around visuali

weightloss

Date: Monday, January 31, 2011, 4:31 PM

 

Sue,

I am sorry I responded with what must have appeared to be anxiety about pants

size.  In truth I am so used to discussing health and weight without using

numbers because it can be highly triggering to people who struggle with eating

disorders - at least - those who struggle with anorexia or bulimia.... I wonder

if it is true for others who have food and body issues that do not include

anorexia or bulimia?

One thing is certain that we are all built differentlly.  However, I also know

that when we get extreme on either side of the equation - way too thin or way

too heavy - we mask what may be our naturally slim body.  I think that is hard

for many of us to recognize what naturally slim looks like for us individually

and instead use images that idealize women as our goal images----If we dont know

what is normal for ourselves and we grew up in families with food issues and

weight struggles it can sometimes not be apparent what naturally slim looks

like, it makes using sizes or weight a difficult way to figure our way with the

weight.

I try to follow a healthy diet, which means to me healthy portions with adequate

calories as well as nutritionally powerful foods that satisfy my cravings

(breads).  I try to excercise daily and of course avoid eating disordered

behaviors.  But all of this is a journey and I am still trying to find my way

to

naturally thin and healthy.

Thanks to all of you for your support on this site.

Jen

________________________________

From: " sue_tanida@... " <sue_tanida@...>

weightloss

Sent: Mon, January 31, 2011 2:25:54 PM

Subject: Re: New realization (was Re: I just can't get my

hear around visuali

 

Hi, . As someone who is 9 inches shorter than you are, with

narrow shoulders and hips and very small wrists, I certainly hope you

would NOT wear size 0 or 2. I have found that it is healthier for me to

focus on my size as opposed to numbers on the scale--not only because

muscle weighs more than fat, etc. but because weight fluctuates so

much--size does not. And what's appropriate for my body is obviously not

what is appropriate for yours. I am sorry if the details of my goals

brought out memories of your own struggles, that was not my intention.

Please keep in mind that I had 160/100 blood pressure and borderline

diabetic blood sugar when I was a size 10. Size 10 is really unhealthy

and large on my frame--and probably just right for many women who have a

larger or taller frame. If you want a sense of how small boned I am, and

you're familiar with US ring sizing, I have rings made for my dominant

ring finger as a size 4 3/4, and wear a size 4 1/2 on my other hand.

Also, as far as Portia de Rossi's comment about " childlike " bodies go, if

you look at east Asia, particularly the population of China, a good

quarter of the population of the world has naturally " childlike " body

types by western standards. Broad hips and large busts do not naturally

occur in the majority of women in east Asia, and those women who are

descended from them. I agree with Ms. DeRossi that a naturally curvy

woman of European descent shouldn't try to have a " childlike " body--but I

don't think she's thinking about other gene pools!

Someone on a blog I read said something about one's " feel great weight "

where you don't have to starve yourself to be there and you feel the best.

I feel best when I'm fit and a size 2. I'm naturally there, if I stay

active and eat healthy foods and portions 80-90% of the time. Spending a

lot of time in hospitals and worrying and grieving sent me diving into

chocolate emotionally--that's the only reason I'm NOT still that size. As

I self-correct back out of the emotional eating, it's the size I'll

gravitate to. It's improving slowly, but I had a setback a week ago when

one of our cats died.

I think 's ideas are good for those of us who have a history of

eating for emotional reasons regardless of where we fall on the scale.

Blessings

Sue