Re: more on serotonin

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In a message dated 5/23/2007 5:08:17 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, no_reply writes:

This does not work for me. I had to stop all my hiking and backpacking because the more I exercised, the more depressed I felt. For me, simply going through my day and doing what I need to do to survive increases my happiness and decreases depression."Serotonin levels can also be controlled through the diet. A dietdeficient in omega-3 fatty acids may lower brain levels of serotoninand cause depression. Complex carbohydrates raise the level oftryptophan in the brain resulting in a calming effect. Vitamin C isalso required for the conversion of tryptophan into serotonin."As I mentioned in another forum, I am an animal rights activist. For a while, I tried to reduce the meat in my diet and compensated by eating more fish. The result over a period of about a year was the worse depression I have ever experienced.

I have sort of the same problems. If I exercise a lot, I tend to get more depressed. In my case, I think that this is due to the increase of testosterone in the system with its attendant increase in certain drives. Since those drives aren't met, then it causes depression.

I've also been eating a lot of fish lately. Perhaps that is also part of the reason for the depression lately.

I won't say more though, since that obviously makes people uncomfortable on here.

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" The most effective way of raising serotonin levels is with vigorous

exercise. Studies have shown that serotonin levels are increased

with increased activity and the production of serotonin is increased

for some days after the activity. This is the safest way of

increasing serotonin levels and many other benefits result from

regular exercise. "

This does not work for me. I had to stop all my hiking and

backpacking because the more I exercised, the more depressed I felt.

For me, simply going through my day and doing what I need to do to

survive increases my happiness and decreases depression.

" Serotonin levels can also be controlled through the diet. A diet

deficient in omega-3 fatty acids may lower brain levels of serotonin

and cause depression. Complex carbohydrates raise the level of

tryptophan in the brain resulting in a calming effect. Vitamin C is

also required for the conversion of tryptophan into serotonin. "

As I mentioned in another forum, I am an animal rights activist. For

a while, I tried to reduce the meat in my diet and compensated by

eating more fish. The result over a period of about a year was the

worse depression I have ever experienced.

I believe that what is stated above works for people who are non-

autistic, but if people with autistic brains have brains that are

structured differently, than it is unlikely that what works for

others works for them.

Tom

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I actually cannot excercise either. If I excercise one day I have

this weird thing where my muscles over grow. With a few weeks of

regular excercise I look like a tiny german weight lifter(in my legs

anyway) that alone depresses me. Inactivity works better. But when

i have to i can walk 8 hours stright. I have in emergency car

situations(no training or getting ready) then for 2 days later I

must recover. this is my preferred method in addition although I am

vegan i also eat very few varied varieties of veggies. Peas

brocolli, almonds walnuts, cucumbers scallions garlic, tomatoes (not

too many acidity0 many things i cannot eat a lot of. Milk makes me

sick so it was no biggie to let go of it but soy while more tolerable

cannot be eaten regularly. I gain weight at a seemingly ridiculous

rate when i eat bread (even one slice) as you said very succinctly

(sp) foods nor drugs have ever acted as they were intended. many

a " cure " has made me more unwell and often this is my basis of

discounting the medical community. they always got it wrong in the

past. which of course makes me feel more alien and outcast, even my

physiogomy argues with NT standards. Perhaps it is only assumptions

that cause any difference in opinion. perhaps meat not withstanding

our experinces are far more similar than they seem. I think I had

confused serotonin with that oxitocin therapy. i think I thought

there was a correlation( i have been out of it and not my usual

reading self) been feeling lost and a bit depressed sorry for the

confusion. The gist was meat with a combination of grain makes the

body produce serotonin, which causes " happiness " (chemically

speaking) but the ratio may be off or it may work for some and not

others. perhaps fish makes one depressed because of contaminated

waters. unles you were refering to cold water fish specifically.

heavy food like turkey (actually made me quite " unhappy " as does the

full feeling (vanity might factor into that reaction)