Guest guest Posted June 22, 2001 Report Share Posted June 22, 2001 Christiane; The oil doesn't 'grease' the bile ducts but does lubricate them with a bit better quality of bile from the over load of oil. The bile ducts can stretch quite a bit. Just imagine how much a vaginal track can stretch with the delivery of a 10 lb baby and you'll have some idea of it's capacity. In fact stones aren't considered large until they are 1.5 cm (15 mm) in size. The basic size of ducts is varied. You can look at the picture of a liver on Dusan's website (link is below if you get individual Email or Here) and get some idea of the varied bile duct sizes. The common bile duct is considered to be around 4 mm as an average. Now take a look see at this site and tell me which of the processes you'd like to try first; flushing the liver, or the use of a basket to retrieve a gallstone from the common bile duct. http://www.laparoscopy.com/pictures/tccbde.html If your browser supports it you can watch the surgery by clicking the links on the page. DaleDa_@... Thanks dusan (don't know your name) for your response. The reason I asked is that many descriptions of how to do a flush say that the oil greases the ducts so that the stones don't get stuck. My doctor told me my gallstones are 1 cm and my duct is 4 mm. Does anyone know if this is the usual sizes? I recently also found out that I have 2 underdeveloped ribs -- they are practically missing. So I wonder how I compare with others. Because of this I've been on a slower regime of dissolving the stones using lecithin, peppermint & ginger and fennel oil, and bitters. I'm hoping to get another ultrasound to see if it is safe to do a flush. Does anyone have any thoughts on this? I've been doing this since February. The new diet has helped me drop 25 lbs, the only weight I need to loose. To summarize: 1. The descriptions of oil greasing the ducts is not accurate then? 2. How much can the ducts stretch? 3. What is the average size of ducts? Thank you, Christiane Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 29, 2004 Report Share Posted April 29, 2004 In a message dated 4/29/04 12:59:38 PM, mindsaredangerous@... writes: Has anybody else here started out or gone on this long with no relief? And how do you even begin to come out of the depression of all of this. Along with getting fired from my job for being sick, and continueing to get sicker and not being able to get another job, I am at my wits end I hear ya! I know how you feel, but there is hope... Have you tried any of the new anti-TNF drugs? They are "lauded" as the most hopeful "cure" for RA in decades. Anti-TNF is a name given to a new class of drugs available for the treatment of severe rheumatoid arthritis. Currently this group consists of three drugs, infliximab (trade name Remicade), etanercept (trade name Enbrel) and adalimumab (trade name Humira). These drugs work by blocking the action of TNF (tumour necrosis factor) a molecule responsible for increasing levels of inflammation in people with rheumatoid arthritis. If you have not tried any of these drugs, call your doctor TODAY. Good luck! Pris Show Biz tricks for pigs! Does your pig sleep his life away? Give him a healthy challenge at ANY age. "Potbellied Pig Behavior and Training" book www.valentinesperformingpigs.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 29, 2004 Report Share Posted April 29, 2004 Isn't it funny we also sort of take cocktails. Let me see. Every morning I take prednisone azulfidine (3 pills) celebrex folic acid actonel (I also take clarinex and trinovum but neither of these is RA related) once a week, six methotrexate pills so, I guess I take 14 pills daily for RA, one day a week it's 20. I think it's normal! > From: " ramomof3 " <mindsaredangerous@...> > Reply-Rheumatoid Arthritis > Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2004 19:57:35 -0000 > Rheumatoid Arthritis > Subject: More questions > > I haven't posted much here, usually to sick to make it downstairs to > even read, but when I do, I catch up. > > As I've posted before, I've been in my very first and very active > flare-up since mid October of last year. I've been on multi doses of > predinosone along with plaquenil, hydrocodone, effexor, and celebrex, > but have yet to come out of this first time, long flare. > > I just went back to my rheumy yesterday, and he's added even more > medications. I'm back on the predinosone, and all the others above, > but he has added methatrexate(sp), and folic acid. I am currently > taking 19 pills a day. Is this normal? I know I have to rely on his > advice and knowledge, but geeze, I've felt terrible since this stuff > started, and at the first hint of it getting better, it's back as bad > as it was before. I've already had a long history with depression > anyway, but it is so much worse than ever before with all this going > on too. > > Has anybody else here started out or gone on this long with no > relief? And how do you even begin to come out of the depression of > all of this. Along with getting fired from my job for being sick, > and continueing to get sicker and not being able to get another job, > I am at my wits end. I thank god every day for my husband and his > insurance, but I hate the fact that my children are taking care of me > and I'm no better off than I was when this started. I dunno, I'm > just at the breaking point here. > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 30, 2004 Report Share Posted April 30, 2004 19 pills a day is quite a few. Methotrexate is usually prescribed as 3 to 10 pills one day a week. I take that many pills (including vitamins) on my Methotrexate day but not on other days. Depression is not uncommon with RA, especially while it is being diagnosed and until the proper medicines and doses are found. Make sure your doctor knows how you are doing because the doctor can olny treat what they know about. God bless. > > From: " ramomof3 " <mindsaredangerous@...> > Date: 2004/04/29 Thu PM 07:57:35 GMT > Rheumatoid Arthritis > Subject: More questions > > I haven't posted much here, usually to sick to make it downstairs to even read, but when I do, I catch up. As I've posted before, I've been in my very first and very active flare-up since mid October of last year. I've been on multi doses of predinosone along with plaquenil, hydrocodone, effexor, and celebrex, but have yet to come out of this first time, long flare. I just went back to my rheumy yesterday, and he's added even more medications. I'm back on the predinosone, and all the others above, but he has added methatrexate(sp), and folic acid. I am currently taking 19 pills a day. Is this normal? I know I have to rely on his advice and knowledge, but geeze, I've felt terrible since this stuff started, and at the first hint of it getting better, it's back as bad as it was before. I've already had a long history with depression anyway, but it is so much worse than ever before with all this going on too. Has anybody else here started out or gone on this long with no relief? And how do you even begin to come out of the depression of all of this. Along with getting fired from my job for being sick, and continueing to get sicker and not being able to get another job, I am at my wits end. I thank god every day for my husband and his insurance, but I hate the fact that my children are taking care of me and I'm no better off than I was when this started. I dunno, I'm just at the breaking point here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 30, 2004 Report Share Posted April 30, 2004 In a message dated 4/30/04 3:16:07 PM, shelsmieg2000@... writes: When I saw her, > with her oxygen machine, her massive bruises and her > arm in a cast where the doctors had reconstructed > her left wrist (she's left handed), my heart just > sank. I asked her what happened and she said, "I > had my hair done before going to the hospital What an inspiration for the rest of us. When we get depressed I guess it can help to remember that there's always someone a lot worse off than we are! And they may even still have their sense of humor and dignity! What helps me is living with animals. Animals are usually very stoic and deal with pain better than humans. They are inspiring, too. Of course, you also have to have a sense of humore to live with pigs! Pris Show Biz tricks for pigs! Does your pig sleep his life away? Give him a healthy challenge at ANY age. "Potbellied Pig Behavior and Training" book www.valentinesperformingpigs.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 30, 2004 Report Share Posted April 30, 2004 In a message dated 4/30/04 4:21:21 PM, saludo@... writes: What an absolutely wonderful website! Thank you for sharing that. I do Chihuahua Rescue and my dogs give me a reason to keep active and moving every day. Rescue? Oh that's wonderful. We do rescue, too. That is another "therapy", I believe. There are so many abandoned critters... Pris Show Biz tricks for pigs! Does your pig sleep his life away? Give him a healthy challenge at ANY age. "Potbellied Pig Behavior and Training" book www.valentinesperformingpigs.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 1, 2004 Report Share Posted May 1, 2004 You are so right about the ability of animals to make you feel better. Many times when I have had a lot of pain my Boxer dogs will do something goofy and make me laugh and laughter will help to deal with the pain. Also pets know when you feel bad and they are at your side offering support and love. I went to your site you have some great pets. Rue --- NELLIESTAR@... wrote: > > In a message dated 4/30/04 3:16:07 PM, > shelsmieg2000@... writes: > > > > When I saw her, > > > with her oxygen machine, her massive bruises and > her > > > arm in a cast where the doctors had > reconstructed > > > her left wrist (she's left handed), my heart > just > > > sank. I asked her what happened and she said, > " I > > > had my hair done before going to the hospital > > > > What an inspiration for the rest of us. > When we get depressed I guess it can help to > remember that there's always > someone a lot worse off than we are! And they may > even still have their sense of > humor and dignity! > What helps me is living with animals. > Animals are usually very stoic and deal with pain > better than humans. > They are inspiring, too. > Of course, you also have to have a sense of humore > to live with pigs! > Pris > > > > Show Biz tricks for pigs! > Does your pig sleep his life away? > Give him a healthy challenge at ANY age. > " Potbellied Pig Behavior and Training " book > www.valentinesperformingpigs.com > ===== BOXER DOGS ARE BEAUTIFUL maryrue@... Web Pages: http://www.geocities.com/bmtboxers/ http://www.angelfire.com/ms/beamartonsboxers http://briefcase./maryrue boxerlovers beamartonraylynn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 1, 2004 Report Share Posted May 1, 2004 What an absolutely wonderful website! Thank you for sharing that. I do Chihuahua Rescue and my dogs give me a reason to keep active and moving every day. www.chihuahua-rescue.org > Of course, you also have to have a sense of humore> to live with pigs!> Pris Show Biz tricks for pigs!> Does your pig sleep his life away?> Give him a healthy challenge at ANY age.> "Potbellied Pig Behavior and Training" book> www.valentinesperformingpigs.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 1, 2004 Report Share Posted May 1, 2004 More abandoned creatures than you can ever imagine. My region alone(OH/IN/KY/WI/IL/MN/MI) placed over a hundred Chihuahuas last year. Our organization placed 400(we're national). I turn down dogs every day because we don't have room. ----- Original Message ----- From: NELLIESTAR@... Rheumatoid Arthritis Sent: Friday, April 30, 2004 7:30 PM Subject: Re: More questions In a message dated 4/30/04 4:21:21 PM, saludo@... writes: What an absolutely wonderful website! Thank you for sharing that. I do Chihuahua Rescue and my dogs give me a reason to keep active and moving every day. Rescue?Oh that's wonderful.We do rescue, too.That is another "therapy", I believe.There are so many abandoned critters...PrisShow Biz tricks for pigs!Does your pig sleep his life away?Give him a healthy challenge at ANY age."Potbellied Pig Behavior and Training" bookwww.valentinesperformingpigs.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 30, 2006 Report Share Posted July 30, 2006 Sandy . . . Here are links to both hypothyroidism and Hashimoto's: . . . http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypothyroidism http://www.4woman.gov/faq/hashimoto.htm It appears that one of the conditions a woman may be left with that refuses to go away after having implants is a thyroid condition. Thyroid problems have become almost epidemic - probably because of diet and environmental issues. The older you get, the more likely you are to develop problems. The expert in thyroid issues is not a doctor, but a woman who formed a support groups and published a newletter "Sticking Our Necks Out" . . . You can find links to her books on ThyroidNews/ Hope this helps. Rogene Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 30, 2006 Report Share Posted July 30, 2006 Sandy . . . I know this can get you down . . . Depression is a biggy with implanted women. We've all been there. However, you know why you've been sick now . . . You also know what you need to do to start getting better . . . The worst is behind you. . . God will get you through this! Hugs and prayers, Rogene Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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