Pneumonia

[Guest guest]

The same thing happened to me two months ago. I was feeling fine and then

all the sudden blood was gushing out of my trache. They did a cat scan and said

I had pneumonia. And now, I suction out mucus plugs all the time (really big

ones too). My ENT's response? Get a humidifier. Hope you feel better,

Deena

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I just got out of the hospital after being in for 2 weeks w/ pneumonia

and a partially collapsed lower left lobe in my lung- I don't know what

happened- I had a high fever and pain under my ribs and back and I

couldn't breathe without a bipap- it was weird. No coughing, no sore

throat or anything. Nothing showed up on the xray (due to scoliosis) so

they gave me a cat scan and saw it there. Now stuff is coming up and it

gets hard to breathe because of mucus plugs but I have the cough assist

I use. Has anyone ever had this?

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Micah had pneumonia 4 times in two years. Sent me to pulmonologist Said he

had asthma that was going into pneumonia. I researched myself and figured

out he had silent reflux. Went to gastroenterologist and bingo. Put on meds

no more pneuomonia. Has he ever been checked for reflux?

Do you any of you have kids with ds who are prone to pneumonia?

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[Guest guest]

Yes , been there, done that! However, it seems Noah has outgrown it.

No pneumonia or hospitalizations for three years now, so he was about 10

when he stopped getting it. There is still time for to outgrow it

too. Does he have a weak cough? Do you give him breathing treatments at

the first sign of a cold? Do you " give him pats " on the back when he has a

cold to break up the congestion? These are all things that helped

immensely. The pulmonologist, or an RT at the hospital can show you the

technique for the pats. It is exhausting to do with your hands, so ask them

for an anesthesiology mask...the kind with the air bladder around the rim.

tape up the hole and it is perfect to get the pat without the soreness.

Noah still asks for " pats " even when he isn't sick..puts him to sleep!

Karla in Texas mom to Noah 13DS and 16nda

pneumonia

> Hi everyone,

>

> Do you any of you have kids with ds who are prone to pneumonia?

> has

> gotten it 4 times in the last two years, twice requiring hospitalization.

> We now have to see an Immunologist, and possibly a

> pulmonologist....great....MORE specialists! I just thought I'd through it

> out there to see if anyone else was having this problem.

>

>

> Mom to (14, ds), Grace (11), and (5)

[Guest guest]

Back in the days before antibiotics pneumonia was the chief cause of

death in DS infants. That was why their life span was considered so short.

Of course many of them died of the things they have treatments and surgeries

for now, which weren't done for DS kids even when they were for others. I

knew one little girl who had pneumonia several times until she seemed to outgrow

it at 4 or 5. Of course we had antibiotics by then. But I also had a cousin

who had DS and had pneumonia frequently, his development was also very poor,

as he was sick so much. His mother was always able to pull him out of it but

when he was 5 she was hospitalized and she left orders for his care, but it

didn't work out and he died. I don't think he'd have had a long future

anyway, but I can imagine how she felt.

Of course, these kids that you are asking about are a good deal older

and we do have antibiotics now, so there could be other causes. But there

has been a historical basis for it too. Jessie

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[Guest guest]

My pulmo told me one of the reasons they are susceptible to pneumonia is

because of the low muscle tone. Low tone =weak cough. When you aren't able

to cough the congestion up, it collects in your lungs, causing pneumonia.

Noah has always had a very weak cough. Thank goodness he has outgrown it,

because the last time we were in the hospital, they had to go to the big

deal antibiotics, as the standard meds weren't cutting it. Pretty scary

when they make you sign a form before they will take the next step....

Karla in Texas

Re: pneumonia

> Back in the days before antibiotics pneumonia was the chief cause

> of

> death in DS infants. That was why their life span was considered so

> short.

> Of course many of them died of the things they have treatments and

> surgeries

> for now, which weren't done for DS kids even when they were for others.

> I

> knew one little girl who had pneumonia several times until she seemed to

> outgrow

> it at 4 or 5. Of course we had antibiotics by then. But I also had a

> cousin

> who had DS and had pneumonia frequently, his development was also very

> poor,

> as he was sick so much. His mother was always able to pull him out of it

> but

> when he was 5 she was hospitalized and she left orders for his care, but

> it

> didn't work out and he died. I don't think he'd have had a long future

> anyway, but I can imagine how she felt.

> Of course, these kids that you are asking about are a good deal

> older

> and we do have antibiotics now, so there could be other causes. But

> there

> has been a historical basis for it too. Jessie

>

>

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[Guest guest]

Yes my , now 7 has many cases of Pneumonia. We actually were seeing a

pulmonologist quite often. We then had his immune system tested, and even

tested for food allergies. It came back that he had some allergies and as those

have gotten under control and he has gotten older, we actually just had our

first winter without a real case of having a cold. YAY!! I hope this continues

to be progress because of his maturing lungs.

Deveri

Mom to /7 years

22 months

[Guest guest]

Hi,

What a coincidence. I just got back from the hospital, where my daughter Ana

spent five days due to a case of pneumonia. Ana is almost 16 years old, and

this is the first time she has had this. She began coughing constantly,

diarrhea and vomiting and fever more than a month ago, until finally she was

sent to the pneumologist by the GP. They did a lot of tests and also was seen

by another specialist while at the hospital and the latter suggested to have

allergy tests done. When Ana was younger, she was diagnosed with chronic sinus

and it seems this has caused the pneumonia that she has now.

Your posts have really come at a right time for me, and feel more at " ease "

knowing that some of you have had this with your children. She still coughs,

especially when eating.

Bonnie, Mom to Ana, from Belgium

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De: Kiersten <kiersten5560@...>

Para: hronca@...; < >

Enviado: sábado, 14 de junio, 2008 5:12:46

Asunto: Re: pneumonia

Hi .

We did when Alden was younger. Many hospitalizations and

lung collapse a few times. We have an

ENT/Pulmonologist/ Allergist beside his Cardiologist and

Feeding Specialists due to his bouts of pneumonia. He has

been doing much better with inhalers and allergy

medications. My girls are getting allergy shots now (ages

12 and 10) and they have improved a great deal with upper

respiratory infections. Alden is only 6 and the allergist

will test him for specifics this summer. He will

eventually do allergy shots, more than likely, but we do

not want to make it traumatic, so the allergist and I will

determine if and when to begin. Two years ago, when the

girls started, we did not even want to test Alden because

it can be scary and painful. Since he began doing well

with our protocol, we are playing it by ear.

If I notice an upper respiratory infection coming on, we

immediately begin nebulizer treatments. The routine and

medications we have been doing have certainly kept him out

of the hospital lately. Thank goodness!

Kiersten

--- hroncacomcast (DOT) net wrote:

> Hi everyone,

>

> Do you any of you have kids with ds who are prone to

> pneumonia? has

> gotten it 4 times in the last two years, twice requiring

> hospitalization.

> We now have to see an Immunologist, and possibly a

> pulmonologist. ...great. ...MORE specialists! I just

> thought I'd through it

> out there to see if anyone else was having this problem.

>

>

> Mom to (14, ds), Grace (11), and (5)

>

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[Guest guest]

Wow. had a chronic sinus infection since March and was on 4

antibiotics to beat it down, then ends up with pneumonia. Sounds like your

daughter. Thanks for the info.

Re: Re: pneumonia

Hi,

What a coincidence. I just got back from the hospital, where my daughter

Ana spent five days due to a case of pneumonia. Ana is almost 16 years

old, and this is the first time she has had this. She began coughing

constantly, diarrhea and vomiting and fever more than a month ago, until

finally she was sent to the pneumologist by the GP. They did a lot of tests

and also was seen by another specialist while at the hospital and the

latter suggested to have allergy tests done. When Ana was younger, she was

diagnosed with chronic sinus and it seems this has caused the pneumonia that

she has now.

Your posts have really come at a right time for me, and feel more at " ease "

knowing that some of you have had this with your children. She still

coughs, especially when eating.

Bonnie, Mom to Ana, from Belgium

----- Mensaje original ----

De: Kiersten <kiersten5560@...>

Para: hronca@...; < >

Enviado: sábado, 14 de junio, 2008 5:12:46

Asunto: Re: pneumonia

Hi .

We did when Alden was younger. Many hospitalizations and

lung collapse a few times. We have an

ENT/Pulmonologist/ Allergist beside his Cardiologist and

Feeding Specialists due to his bouts of pneumonia. He has

been doing much better with inhalers and allergy

medications. My girls are getting allergy shots now (ages

12 and 10) and they have improved a great deal with upper

respiratory infections. Alden is only 6 and the allergist

will test him for specifics this summer. He will

eventually do allergy shots, more than likely, but we do

not want to make it traumatic, so the allergist and I will

determine if and when to begin. Two years ago, when the

girls started, we did not even want to test Alden because

it can be scary and painful. Since he began doing well

with our protocol, we are playing it by ear.

If I notice an upper respiratory infection coming on, we

immediately begin nebulizer treatments. The routine and

medications we have been doing have certainly kept him out

of the hospital lately. Thank goodness!

Kiersten

--- hroncacomcast (DOT) net wrote:

> Hi everyone,

>

> Do you any of you have kids with ds who are prone to

> pneumonia? has

> gotten it 4 times in the last two years, twice requiring

> hospitalization.

> We now have to see an Immunologist, and possibly a

> pulmonologist. ...great. ...MORE specialists! I just

> thought I'd through it

> out there to see if anyone else was having this problem.

>

>

> Mom to (14, ds), Grace (11), and (5)

>

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[Guest guest]

Others have mentioned allergies as well. I'm confused about the

immunologist and the pulmonologist. Any suggestion as to whom we should see

first?

Re:pneumonia

> Yes my , now 7 has many cases of Pneumonia. We actually were seeing

> a pulmonologist quite often. We then had his immune system tested, and

> even tested for food allergies. It came back that he had some allergies

> and as those have gotten under control and he has gotten older, we

> actually just had our first winter without a real case of having a cold.

> YAY!! I hope this continues to be progress because of his maturing lungs.

>

> Deveri

> Mom to /7 years

> 22 months

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

TommyI am so sorry you are going through that--Again! Do you think that maybe you haveA lung infestation? To me that sounds likeA possibility. I gave taken mms in baths and internallyAnd now on anu. Feeling so much betterGod bless and I pray for a sppedy recoveryOnce and for ever!Sent from my iPhoneOn Aug 22, 2009, at 8:12 PM, tommy morrow <tommy02141@...> wrote:

Hi guys I was wondering if any one else has gotten pneumonia since there symptoms have started? I have been so sick the past few day I can hardly get out of bed so I went to the emergency room and they took some x-rays and said I have pneumonia again. This is the fifth time I have got it in the past year "one time right before my symptoms started and four times since".So maybe this has happened to somebody else too? I just cant figure out why I keep on getting pneumonia and the doctors cant

ether? tommy

[Guest guest]

Tommy years ago in the beginning I had pneumonia sorry you are sick. Have you

tried the pneumonia shot when your healthy? I got one they last for 10 years.

Hope you get feeling better. Hugs Marie

>

> Hi guys I was wondering if any one else has gotten pneumonia since there

symptoms have started? I have been so sick the past few day I can hardly get out

of bed so I went to the emergency room and they took some x-rays and said I have

pneumonia again. This is the fifth time I have got it in the past year " one time

right before my symptoms started and four times since " .So maybe this has

happened to somebody else too? I just cant figure out why I keep on getting

pneumonia and the doctors cant ether?

>

tommy

>

[Guest guest]

Tommy, I have heard of several people getting sick with their lungs while dealing with this skin mess. I think there maybe some type of relationship between the two. I hope you feel better soon. You're in my prayers. Rita

pneumonia

Hi guys I was wondering if any one else has gotten pneumonia since there symptoms have started? I have been so sick the past few day I can hardly get out of bed so I went to the emergency room and they took some x-rays and said I have pneumonia again. This is the fifth time I have got it in the past year "one time right before my symptoms started and four times since".So maybe this has happened to somebody else too? I just cant figure out why I keep on getting pneumonia and the doctors cant ether? tommy

[Guest guest]

Dear Tommy,I am so sorry You got sick...And I know it will pass.You're in my

prayers.hugs,Rose

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From: " Rita and Mike Carlson " <m.r.carlson@...>

<bird mites >

Subject: Re: pneumonia

Date: Sat, 22 Aug 2009 21:24:53 -0500

Tommy, I have heard of several people getting sick with their lungs while

dealing with this skin mess. I think there maybe some type of relationship

between the two. I hope you feel better soon. You're in my prayers. Rita

pneumonia

Hi guys I was wondering if any one else has gotten pneumonia since there

symptoms have started? I have been so sick the past few day I can hardly get out

of bed so I went to the emergency room and they took some x-rays and said I have

pneumonia again. This is the fifth time I have got it in the past year " one time

right before my symptoms started and four times since " .So maybe this has

happened to somebody else too? I just cant figure out why I keep on getting

pneumonia and the doctors cant ether?

tommy

[Guest guest]

Yes, there was someone here last year that had kept from going to emergency by

putting the Safe2Use peppermint enzyme liquid in an asthma nebulizer and

inhaling it. That person said that it had literally saved their life. I would

think the MMS would work as well. Laz

>

> Tommy, I have heard of several people getting sick with their lungs while

dealing with this skin mess. I think there maybe some type of relationship

between the two. I hope you feel better soon. You're in my prayers. Rita

>

> pneumonia

>

>

> Hi guys I was wondering if any one else has gotten pneumonia since there

symptoms have started? I have been so sick the past few day I can hardly get out

of bed so I went to the emergency room and they took some x-rays and said I have

pneumonia again. This is the fifth time I have got it in the past year " one time

right before my symptoms started and four times since " .So maybe this has

happened to somebody else too? I just cant figure out why I keep on getting

pneumonia and the doctors cant ether?

>

tommy

>

[Guest guest]

Tommy,

Sorry to hear about the pneumonia.

These creatures will try to invade as many parts of the body as they can.

It's a sick cycle- they tend to invade those with compromised immune systems,

and then make those systems worse.

Sometimes we get so wrapped up in exotic cures, we forget the basics: like

getting lots of fresh air, water, and exercise.

The inevitable depression that sets in, further supports this mess.

Hope you get better soon.

-D.

>

>  Hi guys I was wondering if any one else has gotten pneumonia since there

symptoms have started? I have been so sick the past few day I can hardly get out

of bed so I went to the emergency room and they took some x-rays and said I have

pneumonia again. This is the fifth time I have got it in the past year " one time

right before my symptoms started and four times since " .So maybe this has

happened to somebody else too? I just cant figure out why I keep on getting

pneumonia and the doctors cant ether?

>                                                                            

tommy

>

[Guest guest]

What is MMS

Miracle Mineral Solution (MMS) is a 28% solution of sodium chlorite in distilled

water, commonly used as a water purification product. It is NOT a mineral

supplement nor is it sold as a mineral supplement of any kind.

An important distinction must be made between MMS (the sodium chlorite solution)

and the " MMS Protocol " established by chemist and metallurgist Jim Humble and

detailed exhaustively in his book, " Breakthrough, the Miracle Mineral supplement

of the 21st Century " . Only when sodium chlorite is activated with citric acid as

directed is the chemical compound chlorine dioxide produced, which is reported

to have helped many people combat a wide range of illnesses by helping to

destroy pathogens.

If your privately intended use for Miracle Mineral Solution is to activate it

(i.e. convert it to chlorine dioxide) it is advised you thoroughly read all

related material, consult a healthcare professional and study various third

party resources, some of which are made available here for your safety and

convenience.

MMS can also be used to treat animals, please check the MMS Advisor website in

the links section for specific information.

What is Chlorine Dioxide?

Chlorine dioxide is a chemical compound with the formula ClO2, and also happens

to be a highly effective pathogen destroyer. Prominent established uses of

chlorine dioxide include oral hygiene, and more recently, oral supplementation.

Chlorine dioxide is also the topic of author, scientist, chemist and

humanitarian, Jim Humble's book entitled, " Breakthrough, The Miracle Mineral

Supplement of the 21st Century " . In his book, Humble describes how he

discovered the use of chlorine dioxide as an alternative treatment for Malaria,

which has since led to over 75,000 documented successful treatments of the

disease in Africa.

What is a Pathogen?

A pathogen is described as " any biological agent that causes disease or illness

to its host " . Types of pathogens include Bacteria, Viruses, Protozoa, Fungi,

Parasites and Proteins.

Examples and/or typical effects of Bacterial pathogens include:

* Urinary Tract Infection

* Peritonitis

* Typhoid

* Foodborne Illness (i.e. Salmonella, E. coli)

* Tuberculosis

* Anthrax

* Pneumonia

* Strep Throat

* Stomach Ulcers

* Tularemia

* Lyme Disease

Examples and/or typical effects of Viral pathogens include:

* HIV / AIDS

* Hepatitis A, B, C, D and E (liver disease)

* Herpes

* HPV (i.e. Genital Warts; HPV infection is a necessary factor in the

development of nearly all cases of Cervical Cancer)

* Warts

* Chickenpox, Smallpox, Cold Sores and Measles

* Colds, Influenza Virus (i.e. H5N1, Bird flu)

Examples and/or typical effects of Protozoan pathogens include:

* Malaria

* Giardiasis

* Cryptosporidiosis

* Chagas Disease

Examples and/or typical effects of Fungal pathogens include:

* Opportunistic Pneumonia

* Ringworm

* Candidiasis (i.e. Yeast Infection)

* Histoplasmosis (i.e. " Darling's Disease " )

* Cryptococcosis

Examples and/or typical effects of Parasitical pathogens include:

* Roundworm/Tapeworm

Examples and/or typical effects of Protein pathogens include:

* BSE (mad-cow disease)

* vCJD (Creutzfeldt-Jakob disease)

MMS is a 28% solution of sodium chlorite in distilled water. MMS is a water

purification product. It is not a mineral supplement nor is it sold as a mineral

supplement of any kind. Though often referred to in acronym (i.e. " MMS " ), an

important distinction must be made between MMS and the MMS Protocol " established

by chemist and metallurgist Jim Humble and detailed exhaustively in his book,

" Breakthrough, the Miracle Mineral supplement of the 21st Century " .

When MMS is activated as detailed in Jim Humbles protocol (1 drop of MMS to 5

drops of a 10% solution of citric acid), the chemical compound chlorine dioxide

is produced which anecdotally has many health benefits.

To understand why MMS works one must understand some of the chemistry of

chlorine Dioxide and some of the chemistry of blood. Chlorine dioxide is a gas

that is dissolved in water when in the body. Chlorine and a chlorine dioxide

have been used as disinfectants for more than a hundred years and there is

little doubt that they simply destroy pathogens of all kinds. Both have been

used in water purification systems for more than 50 years. In recent years, in

water purification systems chlorine has been used less and chlorine dioxide a

great deal more as it has many benefits over chlorine.

If your privately intended use for MMS is to activate it in accordance with Jim

Humbles protocol, it is advised you read Jim Humbles book and/or study various

third party resources which are made available here for your convenience.

http://www.mms-health.com/about_mms.php

http://mmsdetox.com/

http://mms-articles.com/stopcoughing.htm

> >

> > Tommy, I have heard of several people getting sick with their lungs while

dealing with this skin mess. I think there maybe some type of relationship

between the two. I hope you feel better soon. You're in my prayers. Rita

> >

> > pneumonia

> >

> >

> > Hi guys I was wondering if any one else has gotten pneumonia since

there symptoms have started? I have been so sick the past few day I can hardly

get out of bed so I went to the emergency room and they took some x-rays and

said I have pneumonia again. This is the fifth time I have got it in the past

year " one time right before my symptoms started and four times since " .So maybe

this has happened to somebody else too? I just cant figure out why I keep on

getting pneumonia and the doctors cant ether?

> >

tommy

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Though I am a fit runner, I had chronic lung problems for over a year, before and during my infestation. I think one of the causes could have been mites/fungus. Pollution may be another. I never had an x-ray, so I am not sure if it was chronic bronchitis but it probably was. I rarely go to doctors for my problems, but probably should more often - except for the mites because I will likely be called delusional.

I got rid of those lung problems a number of ways, including a natural product called respiractin (http://www.respiractin.com/). I tried asthma inhalers (prescribed by a doctor), but they didn't help.

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From: lazerusholcomb <lazerusholcomb@...>bird mites Sent: Saturday, August 22, 2009 11:42:50 PMSubject: Re: pneumonia

Yes, there was someone here last year that had kept from going to emergency by putting the Safe2Use peppermint enzyme liquid in an asthma nebulizer and inhaling it. That person said that it had literally saved their life. I would think the MMS would work as well. Laz>> Tommy, I have heard of several people getting sick with their lungs while dealing with this skin mess. I think there maybe some type of relationship between the two. I hope you feel better soon. You're in my prayers. Rita> > pneumonia> > > Hi guys I was wondering if any one else has gotten pneumonia since there symptoms have started? I have been so sick the past few day I can hardly get out of bed so I went to the emergency room and they took some x-rays and said I have pneumonia again. This is the fifth time I have got it in the past year "one time right before my symptoms started and four times since".So maybe this has happened to somebody else too? I just cant figure out why I keep on getting pneumonia and the doctors cant ether?> tommy>

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Dear Tommy,

I have been taking Colostrum and it seems to bring immune system up to a fighting level. Perhaps this will help you get thru this (ask your doctor if o.k. to take, especially with any other meds you're taking now). I have a history of respiratory infections and have not had any problems for quite sometime. I also think it's helped in our battle with these things simply by improving the immune system. I take Symbiotics Colostrum Plus capsules - they are hormone, pesticide and antiobiotic-free). And then when you get well, as Rush & Marie suggested, check into getting pneumonia shot.

Wishing you all the best,

Judy

pneumonia

Hi guys I was wondering if any one else has gotten pneumonia since there symptoms have started? I have been so sick the past few day I can hardly get out of bed so I went to the emergency room and they took some x-rays and said I have pneumonia again. This is the fifth time I have got it in the past year "one time right before my symptoms started and four times since".So maybe this has happened to somebody else too? I just cant figure out why I keep on getting pneumonia and the doctors cant ether? tommy

[Guest guest]

I was a fit runner as well. About 1 1/2 years Ago I got the flu shot, and that same day feltLike my lungs were filling up with fluid. HadChronic and sometimes severe cough forOver a year after that. Cough is much betterNow. I'm not sure if there was a correlation Between flu shot or maybe beginning of Infestation. Sent from my iPhoneOn Aug 23, 2009, at 6:34 AM, J S <requireshelp@...> wrote:

Though I am a fit runner, I had chronic lung problems for over a year, before and during my infestation. I think one of the causes could have been mites/fungus. Pollution may be another. I never had an x-ray, so I am not sure if it was chronic bronchitis but it probably was. I rarely go to doctors for my problems, but probably should more often - except for the mites because I will likely be called delusional.

I got rid of those lung problems a number of ways, including a natural product called respiractin (http://www.respiractin.com/). I tried asthma inhalers (prescribed by a doctor), but they didn't help.

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From: lazerusholcomb <lazerusholcombgmail>bird mites Sent: Saturday, August 22, 2009 11:42:50 PMSubject: Re: pneumonia

Yes, there was someone here last year that had kept from going to emergency by putting the Safe2Use peppermint enzyme liquid in an asthma nebulizer and inhaling it. That person said that it had literally saved their life. I would think the MMS would work as well. Laz>> Tommy, I have heard of several people getting sick with their lungs while dealing with this skin mess. I think there maybe some type of relationship between the two. I hope you feel better soon. You're in my prayers. Rita> > pneumonia> > > Hi guys I was wondering if any one else has gotten pneumonia since there symptoms have started? I have been so sick the past few day I can hardly get out of bed so I went to the emergency room and they took some x-rays and said I have pneumonia again. This is the fifth time I have got it in the past year "one time right before my symptoms started and four times since".So maybe this has happened to somebody else too? I just cant figure out why I keep on getting pneumonia and the doctors cant ether?> tommy>

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[Guest guest]

Tommy -

Have they cultured sputum? Chlamydia pneumonia is a common pneumonia with

Morgellons. Do you have a person MD who can culture to find out exactly what

pathogen(s) causing it?

Bessie

>

>  Hi guys I was wondering if any one else has gotten pneumonia since there

symptoms have started? I have been so sick the past few day I can hardly get out

of bed so I went to the emergency room and they took some x-rays and said I have

pneumonia again. This is the fifth time I have got it in the past year " one time

right before my symptoms started and four times since " .So maybe this has

happened to somebody else too? I just cant figure out why I keep on getting

pneumonia and the doctors cant ether?

>                                                                            

tommy

>

[Guest guest]

No they did not do that but I go to the doctor on tuseday so I will ask them to do that. They gave me a script for azithromycin but I dont feel any better. I have a fever body pains it hurts when I breath and I am coughing up all kinds of green stuff. I will for sure have them do that on tuseday Bessie thank you! tommyFrom: bessieglavas <bessieglavas@...>Subject: Re: pneumoniabird mites Date: Sunday, August 23, 2009, 2:24 PM

Tommy -

Have they cultured sputum? Chlamydia pneumonia is a common pneumonia with Morgellons. Do you have a person MD who can culture to find out exactly what pathogen(s) causing it?

Bessie

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> Hi guys I was wondering if any one else has gotten pneumonia since there symptoms have started? I have been so sick the past few day I can hardly get out of bed so I went to the emergency room and they took some x-rays and said I have pneumonia again. This is the fifth time I have got it in the past year "one time right before my symptoms started and four times since".So maybe this has happened to somebody else too? I just cant figure out why I keep on getting pneumonia and the doctors cant ether?

> tommy

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Interesting . . . there may be a correlation between our lung infections and the mite infestation. This was discussed a year or so ago as well.

I know someone who almost died from the flu shot. After it, he was unable to work for a full year. Even after a year he could work only 3 days a week.

From: Rush <rushtessman@...>"bird mites " <bird mites >Cc: "bird mites " <bird mites >Sent: Sunday, August 23, 2009 12:41:31 PMSubject: Re: Re: pneumonia

I was a fit runner as well. About 1 1/2 years

Ago I got the flu shot, and that same day felt

Like my lungs were filling up with fluid. Had

Chronic and sometimes severe cough for

Over a year after that. Cough is much better

Now. I'm not sure if there was a correlation

Between flu shot or maybe beginning of

Infestation. Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 23, 2009, at 6:34 AM, J S <requireshelp> wrote:

Though I am a fit runner, I had chronic lung problems for over a year, before and during my infestation. I think one of the causes could have been mites/fungus. Pollution may be another. I never had an x-ray, so I am not sure if it was chronic bronchitis but it probably was. I rarely go to doctors for my problems, but probably should more often - except for the mites because I will likely be called delusional.

I got rid of those lung problems a number of ways, including a natural product called respiractin (http://www.respirac tin.com/). I tried asthma inhalers (prescribed by a doctor), but they didn't help.

Requireshelp

From: lazerusholcomb <lazerusholcombgmail>bird mitesSent: Saturday, August 22, 2009 11:42:50 PMSubject: Re: pneumonia

Yes, there was someone here last year that had kept from going to emergency by putting the Safe2Use peppermint enzyme liquid in an asthma nebulizer and inhaling it. That person said that it had literally saved their life. I would think the MMS would work as well. Laz>> Tommy, I have heard of several people getting sick with their lungs while dealing with this skin mess. I think there maybe some type of relationship between the two. I hope you feel better soon. You're in my prayers. Rita> > pneumonia> > > Hi guys I was wondering if any one else has gotten pneumonia since there symptoms have started? I have been so sick the past few day I can hardly get out of bed so I went to the emergency room and they took some x-rays and said I have pneumonia again. This is the fifth time I have got it in the past year "one time right before my symptoms started and four times since".So maybe this has happened to somebody else too? I just cant figure out why I keep on getting pneumonia and the doctors cant ether?> tommy>

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Tommy. I am surprised they gave you Z-pakFor pneumonia. From what I remember thatIs a fairly weak antibiotic. If you don't feelBetter you should page your doc and have himCall something stronger in. Sent from my iPhoneOn Aug 23, 2009, at 2:46 PM, tommy morrow <tommy02141@...> wrote:

No they did not do that but I go to the doctor on tuseday so I will ask them to do that. They gave me a script for azithromycin but I dont feel any better. I have a fever body pains it hurts when I breath and I am coughing up all kinds of green stuff. I will for sure have them do that on tuseday Bessie thank you! tommyFrom: bessieglavas <bessieglavas >Subject: Re: pneumoniabird mites Date: Sunday, August 23, 2009, 2:24 PM

Tommy -

Have they cultured sputum? Chlamydia pneumonia is a common pneumonia with Morgellons. Do you have a person MD who can culture to find out exactly what pathogen(s) causing it?

Bessie

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> Hi guys I was wondering if any one else has gotten pneumonia since there symptoms have started? I have been so sick the past few day I can hardly get out of bed so I went to the emergency room and they took some x-rays and said I have pneumonia again. This is the fifth time I have got it in the past year "one time right before my symptoms started and four times since".So maybe this has happened to somebody else too? I just cant figure out why I keep on getting pneumonia and the doctors cant ether?

> tommy

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Tommy,how many does have You taken thus far,How high is your fever???Are you

able to drink fluid???You got me thinkin!!Rose

--- tommy02141@... wrote:

From: tommy morrow <tommy02141@...>

bird mites

Subject: Re: Re: pneumonia

Date: Sun, 23 Aug 2009 12:46:15 -0700 (PDT)

No they did not do that but I go  to the doctor on tuseday so I will ask them

to do that. They gave me a script for azithromycin  but I dont feel any better.

I have a fever body pains it hurts when I breath and I am coughing up all kinds

of green stuff. I will for sure have them do that on tuseday Bessie thank you!

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                         tommy

From: bessieglavas <bessieglavas@...>

Subject: Re: pneumonia

bird mites

Date: Sunday, August 23, 2009, 2:24 PM

 

Tommy -

Have they cultured sputum? Chlamydia pneumonia is a common pneumonia with

Morgellons. Do you have a person MD who can culture to find out exactly what

pathogen(s) causing it?

Bessie

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>  Hi guys I was wondering if any one else has gotten pneumonia since there

symptoms have started? I have been so sick the past few day I can hardly get out

of bed so I went to the emergency room and they took some x-rays and said I have

pneumonia again. This is the fifth time I have got it in the past year " one time

right before my symptoms started and four times since " .So maybe this has

happened to somebody else too? I just cant figure out why I keep on getting

pneumonia and the doctors cant ether?

>

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                                    tommy

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[Guest guest]

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> Interesting . . . there may be a correlation between our lung infections and

the mite infestation.  This was discussed a year or so ago as well.

>

> I know someone who almost died from the flu shot.  After it, he was unable to

work for a full year.  Even after a year he could work only 3 days a week.

>

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>During the worst of my infestation I had a pretty bad chronic cough. It

reminded me of the cough my dad had when he smoked three packs a day. I don't

smoke, nor does anyone around me. It has gotten better in the last couple of

months as my environment has cleared.

-diana

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