Guest guest Posted June 20, 2004 Report Share Posted June 20, 2004 Again, I think this is is a very important matter to submit to TEA--that the districts are doing a lousy job educating parents about how to write good IEPs. Each district should offer a monthly workshop on what is an IEP and what considerations need to go into writing good ones. Yet most parents know nothing about it. The teachers really don't even explain the rules and procedures brochure. I have been surprised at the language used at ARD meetings. When it is a school directed goal, they make sure to specify everything about it in writing " just to make sure that it happens " as I heard one OT say. When it is something that the parents want, then suddenly it doesn't need to be on paper. We understand what you want. The change of placement thing is kind of a moot point because a parent the right to call an ARD when they feel the need to. Re: ARD requirements I too just finished having this exact same discussion with my school district (Clear Creek ISD)! - the week before school let out they send a letter saying only that my son would be moved to a different campus for PPCD next fall, and would be that - no ARD (and they referred me to some of the same reasons already given in this thread as to why they were fully within their rights). They tell me that they are doing me a favor by moving my son to his home campus, but the home campus doesn't have a motor lab, and I'm worried that even though the previous speech therapist gave my son 1-1 because of his inability to focus when other children are working with her at the same time, since it isn't spelled out specifically in his IEP to get 1-1 speech he won't receive it at the new campus. I guess that just goes to show us all once again, that we need to be sure to spell out explicitly in the IEP's everything our kids need, because you can't take it on faith that you will be dealing with the same principal, teacher, or therapists who made you assurances about how things would be when you had the ARD through the duration of time until the next ARD. - Texas Autism Advocacy Unlocking Autism www.UnlockingAutism.org Autism-Awareness-Action Worldwide internet group for parents who have a child with AUTISM. SeekingJoyinDisability - Prayer support for those touched by Disability: SeekingJoyinDisability/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 20, 2004 Report Share Posted June 20, 2004 <<HISD has basically said they're not going to put a life skills class in every elementary.>> They don't have to - but why aren't they offering the parents transportation? This should be included in the child's IEP as a related service! If the child cannot benefit from the educational programming without getting to school, then the school needs to provide special ed transportation! BTW, if a specific campus is identified in a child's IEP then the school CANNOT unilaterally change it without going back to ARD. If the only thing that was specified in the ARD was a generalized statement, such as type of classroom, then the school can go ahead and change the placement. Look carefully at your ARD documents and see what was written!! This is also extremely useful in the later years, especially once in Middle and High school. A little over a year ago I had a similar situation - it wasn't a change of campus but a change of classrooms in Middle School. According to our district, and TEA confirmed this, a child's " placement " CAN be changed WITHOUT an ARD as long as all elements of his/her IEP can still be met. This means that once a child is covered under special ed and is in any type of special ed class the school can " unilaterally " change this placement to any other type of special ed class - from resource to self-contained, including behavior, life skills, etc. THIS IS CONSIDERED PERFECTLY LEGAL - there is nothing in federal or state law that states otherwise!! One of my kids (PDD & Bipolar) had an " elective " of office work, but we had an IEP with specific goals and objectives. One of the district's sped administrators thought she could change his placement by moving him out of the specified class into another. This was done in the middle of a school year, I was not notified until AFTER the change was made and they told my son BEFORE the told me. He was a disaster!! They changed all the rules on him - then wanted to know why he was a mess! Luckily we had specified on his schedule of services page the specific class setting by name. An another saving grace was the specific IEP goals and objectives which could only be carried out in a specific setting. Obviously the sped coordinator did not read my son's IEPs carefully and missed these specifics. By the end of the 2nd day of constant emails and phone calls, everything was back to the way it had been. Barbara Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 21, 2004 Report Share Posted June 21, 2004 I can see pros and cons for both situations (home school vs. another school with appropriate programs)....let me tell you where I'm coming from. We have just moved from New Jersey, and are waiting for our house in Houston to be completed (mid July). We will be in the Cy-Fair ISD, with Copeland as our home school. In New Jersey (where every district is NOT wonderful, by the way, according to the parents I know up there), we were in a fantastic situation. There was an elementary school across the street, but my son went to another school that had the program suited for him. He was bussed (which is REQUIRED -- your friends should have transportation provided for their child!!), which worked well. I am SO glad that the district put all of their resources into a single, well-planned program at one school, rather than spreading the resources out over the other 10 elementary schools. Since our district was small, it worked well. Now, when we looked into the districts in Houston, we were told that for the most part it is a neighborhood school situation, which is also okay since Connor will be able to go to school with the kids he plays with in the neighborhood -- not the case in NJ, where playdates with his classmates were more of a challenge to schedule due to the distance between the kids' homes. Fortunately, Connor started mainstreaming part of each day into a regular K class with an aide, and did extremely well, so that is our plan for first grade. The Child Study Team in NJ did a fantastic job of re-drafting our IEP for next year with very, very specific information, so that there will be no doubt as to what services Connor had and should have. I'm still nervous about the switch, since we did have such a good situation, but we're hopeful that as Connor continues to progress so well and spends more time in a mainstream environment, that this will also be a good situation for him. The information here on this list is good (although a bit scary at times; seems like everyone has had problems with the schools here at some time or the other), and has helped us a lot. We'll see what happens! e re: ARD requirements Jeff/a-- " Unless the IEP of a child with a disability requires some other arrangement, the child is educated in the school that he or she would attend if non-disabled--the " Home " School. " Well I can tell that HISD does NOT follow this. They basically say, " Here is the school where there is a program that will suit your child. " Doesn't matter if you have a home school a block away. I am helping a family right now who don't have transportation and find it a hardship to have their child at the school the district wants her. HISD has basically said they're not going to put a life skills class in every elementary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 21, 2004 Report Share Posted June 21, 2004 I can see pros and cons for both situations (home school vs. another school with appropriate programs)....let me tell you where I'm coming from. We have just moved from New Jersey, and are waiting for our house in Houston to be completed (mid July). We will be in the Cy-Fair ISD, with Copeland as our home school. In New Jersey (where every district is NOT wonderful, by the way, according to the parents I know up there), we were in a fantastic situation. There was an elementary school across the street, but my son went to another school that had the program suited for him. He was bussed (which is REQUIRED -- your friends should have transportation provided for their child!!), which worked well. I am SO glad that the district put all of their resources into a single, well-planned program at one school, rather than spreading the resources out over the other 10 elementary schools. Since our district was small, it worked well. Now, when we looked into the districts in Houston, we were told that for the most part it is a neighborhood school situation, which is also okay since Connor will be able to go to school with the kids he plays with in the neighborhood -- not the case in NJ, where playdates with his classmates were more of a challenge to schedule due to the distance between the kids' homes. Fortunately, Connor started mainstreaming part of each day into a regular K class with an aide, and did extremely well, so that is our plan for first grade. The Child Study Team in NJ did a fantastic job of re-drafting our IEP for next year with very, very specific information, so that there will be no doubt as to what services Connor had and should have. I'm still nervous about the switch, since we did have such a good situation, but we're hopeful that as Connor continues to progress so well and spends more time in a mainstream environment, that this will also be a good situation for him. The information here on this list is good (although a bit scary at times; seems like everyone has had problems with the schools here at some time or the other), and has helped us a lot. We'll see what happens! e re: ARD requirements Jeff/a-- " Unless the IEP of a child with a disability requires some other arrangement, the child is educated in the school that he or she would attend if non-disabled--the " Home " School. " Well I can tell that HISD does NOT follow this. They basically say, " Here is the school where there is a program that will suit your child. " Doesn't matter if you have a home school a block away. I am helping a family right now who don't have transportation and find it a hardship to have their child at the school the district wants her. HISD has basically said they're not going to put a life skills class in every elementary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 22, 2004 Report Share Posted June 22, 2004 What I find even more distrubing is that they make the decision and then have nothing ready for the child when school begins even if the description is in the IEP. I have been forced to homeschool my child as the professionals in our area have no idea how to educated our children and they are dumped in a life skills classroom with no means of ever getting out without someone hovering over them. It is a living nightmare at school for my child. The poor child that can't learn has skills scatter from first to sixth grade in the last 2 years. I wonder where he would be if he had received proper training from the time he was three through eight. He is almost 12 now and I did tell the last ARD committee that I would invite them to his graduation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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