Guest guest Posted September 12, 2010 Report Share Posted September 12, 2010 Nice to know I'm not the only crazy extended nurser:) I would have done the same thing and nursed, I didn't get to many bad reactions to nursing but I really didn't care either. I had a smart@ss come back for those who did have a problem, I was rather disappointed I didn't get to use them more often lol:) I think I nursed in public until she was around 3 but she was really small for her age. Lilly I didn't nurse much in public just becasue nursing her was in no way discrete, especially with her inability to suck for the 1st year. Feeding was a pretty messy ordeal. Anyway, the vast majority of hospital visits have been positive, I can only think of 2 Dr's who pushed for weaning. I obviously ignored both:) ________________________________ From: " cerdaclan@... " <tcerda@...> Sent: Sun, September 12, 2010 11:32:27 AM Subject: more on nursing I was only able to nurse Molly til she was 18 months becase the docs felt nursing was causing me to contract when pregnant with Maggie. It was after this where Molly got her worst infections (pnemonias that would not clear). When Maggie was born, she was also ok til about 9 months. But at about the same age that her sister was sick with pnuemonia, she contracted rotavirus. It was just days before her 2 birthday. For 9 days, she was semi comatose in intensive care. We had been told that she was going to die. She had a temp they could not control with medications and we were told that it meant that the temperature control area of her brain had been destroyed. She was packed in ice. BUT, every couple of hours, I sat in the rocker and nursed her. The nurses thought it revolting that a mother was still breastfeeding a child that was nearly 2. Maggie ended up recovering fully, to everyones dismay. When Maggie was a newborn, she had fluid in her lungs that she could not clear. THey whisked her away from me and put her in the NICU. About an hour after delivering her, I asked if I could go up and see her. I picked up off the table and asked if I could nurse her. I was told " no " and they went on to tell me that she would not be able to nurse. THe nurse left the room and I put her to my chest. She latched on instantly and nursed for 30 minutes straight. Just one hour later, her lungs were clear and she was out NICU and in my arms. I nursed Maggie to 5, nearly 6 years old. Both of the girls have had a very rough time with many, many infections. She may not have gotten protective antibodies from my own messed up immune system.....but they both certainly got something much bigger that, I believe, helped them get through the tough times. It was something I could give my daughters of myself....something that was so simple, but so profoundly intimate on many level, in providing a sense of security and love. Terri ------------------------------------ This forum is open to parents and caregivers of children diagnosed with a Primary Immune Deficiency. Opinions or medical advice stated here are the sole responsibility of the poster and should not be taken as professional advice. To unsubscribe -unsubscribegroups (DOT) To search group archives go to: /messages Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 12, 2010 Report Share Posted September 12, 2010 What an inspiring story. You are truly a wonderful MOM! BARBIE ________________________________ From: " cerdaclan@... " <tcerda@...> Sent: Sun, September 12, 2010 11:32:27 AM Subject: more on nursing I was only able to nurse Molly til she was 18 months becase the docs felt nursing was causing me to contract when pregnant with Maggie. It was after this where Molly got her worst infections (pnemonias that would not clear). When Maggie was born, she was also ok til about 9 months. But at about the same age that her sister was sick with pnuemonia, she contracted rotavirus. It was just days before her 2 birthday. For 9 days, she was semi comatose in intensive care. We had been told that she was going to die. She had a temp they could not control with medications and we were told that it meant that the temperature control area of her brain had been destroyed. She was packed in ice. BUT, every couple of hours, I sat in the rocker and nursed her. The nurses thought it revolting that a mother was still breastfeeding a child that was nearly 2. Maggie ended up recovering fully, to everyones dismay. When Maggie was a newborn, she had fluid in her lungs that she could not clear. THey whisked her away from me and put her in the NICU. About an hour after delivering her, I asked if I could go up and see her. I picked up off the table and asked if I could nurse her. I was told " no " and they went on to tell me that she would not be able to nurse. THe nurse left the room and I put her to my chest. She latched on instantly and nursed for 30 minutes straight. Just one hour later, her lungs were clear and she was out NICU and in my arms. I nursed Maggie to 5, nearly 6 years old. Both of the girls have had a very rough time with many, many infections. She may not have gotten protective antibodies from my own messed up immune system.....but they both certainly got something much bigger that, I believe, helped them get through the tough times. It was something I could give my daughters of myself....something that was so simple, but so profoundly intimate on many level, in providing a sense of security and love. Terri Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 12, 2010 Report Share Posted September 12, 2010 The international average is 4.2 years old.That includes the POOR statistics for the united states. I truly believe many of our Health Care dollars are going to deal with the lack of breastfeeding in our country. It makes a huge difference in so many areas of the body, teeth, eyes organ development not to mention the brain. didn't care either. I had a smart@ss come back for those who did have a problem, I was rather disappointed I didn't get to use them more often lol:) I think I nursed in public until she was around 3 but she was really small for her age. Lilly I didn't nurse much in public just becasue nursing her was in no way discrete, especially with her inability to suck for the 1st year. Feeding was a pretty messy ordeal. Anyway, the vast majority of hospital visits have been positive, I can only think of 2 Dr's who pushed for weaning. I obviously ignored both:) ________________________________ From: " cerdaclan@... " <tcerda@...> Sent: Sun, September 12, 2010 11:32:27 AM Subject: more on nursing I was only able to nurse Molly til she was 18 months becase the docs felt nursing was causing me to contract when pregnant with Maggie. It was after this where Molly got her worst infections (pnemonias that would not clear). When Maggie was born, she was also ok til about 9 months. But at about the same age that her sister was sick with pnuemonia, she contracted rotavirus. It was just days before her 2 birthday. For 9 days, she was semi comatose in intensive care. We had been told that she was going to die. She had a temp they could not control with medications and we were told that it meant that the temperature control area of her brain had been destroyed. She was packed in ice. BUT, every couple of hours, I sat in the rocker and nursed her. The nurses thought it revolting that a mother was still breastfeeding a child that was nearly 2. Maggie ended up recovering fully, to everyones dismay. When Maggie was a newborn, she had fluid in her lungs that she could not clear. THey whisked her away from me and put her in the NICU. About an hour after delivering her, I asked if I could go up and see her. I picked up off the table and asked if I could nurse her. I was told " no " and they went on to tell me that she would not be able to nurse. THe nurse left the room and I put her to my chest. She latched on instantly and nursed for 30 minutes straight. Just one hour later, her lungs were clear and she was out NICU and in my arms. I nursed Maggie to 5, nearly 6 years old. Both of the girls have had a very rough time with many, many infections. She may not have gotten protective antibodies from my own messed up immune system.....but they both certainly got something much bigger that, I believe, helped them get through the tough times. It was something I could give my daughters of myself....something that was so simple, but so profoundly intimate on many level, in providing a sense of security and love. Terri ------------------------------------ This forum is open to parents and caregivers of children diagnosed with a Primary Immune Deficiency. Opinions or medical advice stated here are the sole responsibility of the poster and should not be taken as professional advice. To unsubscribe -unsubscribegroups (DOT) To search group archives go to: /messages Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 12, 2010 Report Share Posted September 12, 2010 Nursing is so wonderful. I nursed my twins for 18 months and plan on nursing my 16 month old for as long as she wants(which my hubby says will be at least 12 yrs). She loves to nurse still and has no desire to stop. Actually she got only breastmilk until 12 months old, when she would finally be willing to eat something else. I actually also feel so strong about the benefits of breastmilk and am an over producer that I started donating milk when I delivered and have donated over 4,000 oz in the last 16 months. I have donated to mothers who don't produce enough to feed there own baby's. Also to moms who have adopted and want there baby's on breastmilk. It's so rewarding knowing that I have been able to help other baby's out there. > > I was only able to nurse Molly til she was 18 months becase the docs felt nursing was causing me to contract when pregnant with Maggie. It was after this where Molly got her worst infections (pnemonias that would not clear). When Maggie was born, she was also ok til about 9 months. But at about the same age that her sister was sick with pnuemonia, she contracted rotavirus. It was just days before her 2 birthday. For 9 days, she was semi comatose in intensive care. We had been told that she was going to die. She had a temp they could not control with medications and we were told that it meant that the temperature control area of her brain had been destroyed. She was packed in ice. BUT, every couple of hours, I sat in the rocker and nursed her. The nurses thought it revolting that a mother was still breastfeeding a child that was nearly 2. Maggie ended up recovering fully, to everyones dismay. When Maggie was a newborn, she had fluid in her lungs that she could not clear. THey whisked her away from me and put her in the NICU. About an hour after delivering her, I asked if I could go up and see her. I picked up off the table and asked if I could nurse her. I was told " no " and they went on to tell me that she would not be able to nurse. THe nurse left the room and I put her to my chest. She latched on instantly and nursed for 30 minutes straight. Just one hour later, her lungs were clear and she was out NICU and in my arms. I nursed Maggie to 5, nearly 6 years old. Both of the girls have had a very rough time with many, many infections. She may not have gotten protective antibodies from my own messed up immune system.....but they both certainly got something much bigger that, I believe, helped them get through the tough times. It was something I could give my daughters of myself....something that was so simple, but so profoundly intimate on many level, in providing a sense of security and love. > > Terri > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 13, 2010 Report Share Posted September 13, 2010 For me, I have kind of equated it to if you have always eaten cereal with a spoon, why would you switch to eating it with a fork? Brest feeding is (eventually) easy and quick- pumping takes a lot of time and effort, and unless you have the somewhat costly machines not really efficient. I had a similar rule, once they were three we nursed at home only, and it was as part of our routine when taking daytime naps. But, my kids didn't start table food until they were over a year, and we didn't really do cereals or jarred baby foods. You think weaning a child off a bottle is hard- those you can hide J- 14 years old- PID Sub-Q with Hizentra On Mon, Sep 13, 2010 at 7:40 AM, <mindy@...> wrote: > > > For me, I just made the rule that we only nursed at home once the kids > were two...and they eventually understood the appropriate time and place > Others may have other feelings on this. Pumping is very time > consuming and less efficient when you are very busy with sick kids, or > nursing more than one child. Allowances should be made if the nursing > child is in the hospital--IMHO. > > Mindy, mom of seven > > > > Question, I am all for kids getting the good stuff from breast milk, but > > when they are old enough to be off a bottle, and can hold a cup, why not > > pump and put it in one at that point? I think it would just go over > easier > > than a 3 to 5 year old running up and going for a drink off Mom, don't > > you think it draws unecessary attention that can be avoided? > > Again just a few questions > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 13, 2010 Report Share Posted September 13, 2010 Please gear the nursing discussion towards immune related matters. Ursula Pedpid moderator On Sep 13, 2010, at 12:06 PM, Self <derrickandchristine@...> wrote: > For me, I have kind of equated it to if you have always eaten cereal with a > spoon, why would you switch to eating it with a fork? > > Brest feeding is (eventually) easy and quick- pumping takes a lot of time > and effort, and unless you have the somewhat costly machines not > really efficient. > > I had a similar rule, once they were three we nursed at home only, and it > was as part of our routine when taking daytime naps. But, my kids didn't > start table food until they were over a year, and we didn't really > do cereals or jarred baby foods. > > You think weaning a child off a bottle is hard- those you can hide > > > J- 14 years old- PID > Sub-Q with Hizentra > > On Mon, Sep 13, 2010 at 7:40 AM, <mindy@...> wrote: > > > > > > > For me, I just made the rule that we only nursed at home once the kids > > were two...and they eventually understood the appropriate time and place > > Others may have other feelings on this. Pumping is very time > > consuming and less efficient when you are very busy with sick kids, or > > nursing more than one child. Allowances should be made if the nursing > > child is in the hospital--IMHO. > > > > Mindy, mom of seven > > > > > > > Question, I am all for kids getting the good stuff from breast milk, but > > > when they are old enough to be off a bottle, and can hold a cup, why not > > > pump and put it in one at that point? I think it would just go over > > easier > > > than a 3 to 5 year old running up and going for a drink off Mom, don't > > > you think it draws unecessary attention that can be avoided? > > > Again just a few questions > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 13, 2010 Report Share Posted September 13, 2010 Please gear the nursing discussion towards immune related matters. Ursula Pedpid moderator On Sep 13, 2010, at 12:06 PM, Self <derrickandchristine@...> wrote: > For me, I have kind of equated it to if you have always eaten cereal with a > spoon, why would you switch to eating it with a fork? > > Brest feeding is (eventually) easy and quick- pumping takes a lot of time > and effort, and unless you have the somewhat costly machines not > really efficient. > > I had a similar rule, once they were three we nursed at home only, and it > was as part of our routine when taking daytime naps. But, my kids didn't > start table food until they were over a year, and we didn't really > do cereals or jarred baby foods. > > You think weaning a child off a bottle is hard- those you can hide > > > J- 14 years old- PID > Sub-Q with Hizentra > > On Mon, Sep 13, 2010 at 7:40 AM, <mindy@...> wrote: > > > > > > > For me, I just made the rule that we only nursed at home once the kids > > were two...and they eventually understood the appropriate time and place > > Others may have other feelings on this. Pumping is very time > > consuming and less efficient when you are very busy with sick kids, or > > nursing more than one child. Allowances should be made if the nursing > > child is in the hospital--IMHO. > > > > Mindy, mom of seven > > > > > > > Question, I am all for kids getting the good stuff from breast milk, but > > > when they are old enough to be off a bottle, and can hold a cup, why not > > > pump and put it in one at that point? I think it would just go over > > easier > > > than a 3 to 5 year old running up and going for a drink off Mom, don't > > > you think it draws unecessary attention that can be avoided? > > > Again just a few questions > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 13, 2010 Report Share Posted September 13, 2010 After the age of 1, I considered it " nursing " not breastfeeding. And yes, it only occured at bedtime, naptime or when sick and lasted about 2 minutes til they quit because they fell asleep. I agree that we, as a culture have such a phobia. We make a big deal out of something that proves nurturing. Studies indicate that the natural wheaning age of a child is over 5 years of age. It was never something that was taxing for me. Terri > > Most kids that nurse at that age are nursing at naps, bedtime and when they get > hurt. It is odd to me how Americans look at it as " inappropriate " I have lived > all over the world and here and ONLY here do people get weird about it. It is a > lot more work to pump so why pump??? The greatest tool with Breastfeeding to to > use it as a learning tool. the first time a baby nips( bites) it is a chance to > look the baby in the eyes and say no. That makes for an in tune mom and baby due > to the eye contact and close proximity. You can limit it as you see appropriate > for you family. > > BARBIE > > > > > ________________________________ > From: K <nalla70@...> > > Sent: Mon, September 13, 2010 7:10:08 AM > Subject: Re: more on nursing > > > Question, I am all for kids getting the good stuff from breast milk, but when > they are old enough to be off a bottle, and can hold a cup, why not pump and put > it in one at that point? I think it would just go over easier than a 3 to 5 year > old running up and going for a drink off Mom, don't you think it draws > unecessary attention that can be avoided? > Again just a few questions > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 13, 2010 Report Share Posted September 13, 2010 Sorry Ursula, we were posting at the same time. Terri > > > > > > > > > > > For me, I just made the rule that we only nursed at home once the kids > > > were two...and they eventually understood the appropriate time and place > > > Others may have other feelings on this. Pumping is very time > > > consuming and less efficient when you are very busy with sick kids, or > > > nursing more than one child. Allowances should be made if the nursing > > > child is in the hospital--IMHO. > > > > > > Mindy, mom of seven > > > > > > > > > > Question, I am all for kids getting the good stuff from breast milk, but > > > > when they are old enough to be off a bottle, and can hold a cup, why not > > > > pump and put it in one at that point? I think it would just go over > > > easier > > > > than a 3 to 5 year old running up and going for a drink off Mom, don't > > > > you think it draws unecessary attention that can be avoided? > > > > Again just a few questions > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 13, 2010 Report Share Posted September 13, 2010 You have the RIGHT attitude. I would say you gave her a MUCH better chance with her immune deficiency and allergies. I wish I could have been able to get my hands on breastmilk for my son. It would have made a HUGE difference. He too did not eat until about 2 and 1/2 but we used goats milk for his milk needs. Since he had bloody stools with any of the formulas.(including Pregestamil and Nutramigen. Eosinophylic Gastroenteritis from 2 months forward. I found a farm that would do near sterile technique with their Nubian goats and that made the BEST difference for him. I used pasteurized during the winter but he had LOTS more rashes etc during that time. Keeping in mind that you must add folic acid, and acidophilus and maple syrup to get him what he needed so I basically made him a formula. This is CLEARLY not for everyone. I also used tubes at the breast since he was adopted as a newborn. I did have a bit of milk but not enough to feed him his nutritional needs. I hope I gave him some antibodies though.( I believe I did ) BARBIE ________________________________ From: <bluetaelon@...> Sent: Mon, September 13, 2010 10:12:36 AM Subject: Re: Re: more on nursing The majority of kids are to busy when out and about to want to nurse. I was still nursing in public becasue we had to. didn't start eating solid food, or any food really for that matter until about 33 months. No matter what we tried it was amazing if we got 200 calories into her and we spent about 2 years in feeding therapy 3 days a week in clinic. As long as she was growing the Dr's just kept a close eye on her. It wasn't until I had a fit and said ENOUGH! as she was nursing at least every hour at that point and I was losing my mind. They scheduled a G-tube but darndest thing, one day she just up and started eating and never looked back about a week before the surgery. She had a lot of sensory issues and freaked out about things being in her mouth and she had a hard time learning how to swallow solids then we had texture issues and multiple severe food allergies I was still learning to deal with. We are unusual but we didn't have a choice, is one of those kids that would have died if I hadn't made the choice that come hell or high water I would BF and thats the attitude I needed to persevere with BF becasue it was a nightmare the first several months and I was tempted to give up sooo often but there literally was no formula she tolerated, not even Neocate. I know how easy it is to just give up with BF but I'm glad I stuck it out and didn't give a rats rear about other peoples strange ideas when the rest of the world thought as I did when it came to nursing:) ________________________________ From: K <nalla70@...> Sent: Mon, September 13, 2010 7:10:08 AM Subject: Re: more on nursing Question, I am all for kids getting the good stuff from breast milk, but when they are old enough to be off a bottle, and can hold a cup, why not pump and put it in one at that point? I think it would just go over easier than a 3 to 5 year old running up and going for a drink off Mom, don't you think it draws unecessary attention that can be avoided? Again just a few questions Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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