Guest guest Posted April 2, 2007 Report Share Posted April 2, 2007 Hi Viv, Glad you had a good appt., that did well, and that you're calmer. Consider getting a DDI hair elements test and applying counting rules before making a decision about chelation. You can order one yourself (without a doc) through Direct Lab Services. They're running a discount this month and give a(n additional?) discount if you mention this list. When a doc laughs when someone asks about/mentions thimerosal it usually means they're thinking (Oh, it's another one of those parents trying to educate themselves on the internet!) S S Well today and I had the appointment with the Dev. Pediatrican. did really great! And I am so happy, the doctor said that he is NOT autistic. I want to say thanks to all of you who were so kind. I did appreciate all the e-mails and answers I got. I am so happy tonight!! Not so upset like before. I know that and I need to do a lot of work to get him talking properly. The doctor arranged for us to have a course. It is called It takes two to talk. Does anyone know about this? I asked about mercury and vaccines. Can you believe that the doctor actually laughed? Then he showed me some stuff that said that there was no mercury in the shots in Canada since way before was born. I'm not sure about that. Can someone tell me if that is true? I am not sure if I should still do chelation. Some one sent me to Generation rescue. They said that speech delays are all mercury poisoning too just like autism. So maybe I should still consider this. But not right now. Because I as soooo relieved. Does anyone know if there is a group for kids with speech delay and doing chelation? Viv _______________________________________________ Join Excite! - http://www.excite.com The most personalized portal on the Web! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 2, 2007 Report Share Posted April 2, 2007 I wouldn't listen to a word he said about those shots. The ones in Canada are made by the same companies as the US shots. And they ALL have mercury in them, old ones and new ones. The diff is the new one have Aluminum in them to go with the mercury. And they do cause speech delays. I would still pursue the metals avenue...since they did not provide you with ANY reason why your son has this delay. Did they say it was cause by something? No, cause they don't know. Taking a course or therapy is fine and useful. But come on...tons of kids learn to speak without hardly any parenting..are they trying to say that you need to learn how to teach your son to talk? That's absurd! It's good that he is not autistic. Wonderful news in fact. Please keep in mind that the full effects of vaccine damage do not all show up at once...my one child spoke just fine, developed perfectly as a little person, we didnt' see the effects of her vaccine metals until she was in elementary school! The group for kids with speech delay and chelation would be us, since many autistic kids do not speak or hardly speak, or eventually speak...etc. I would hair test him...before I accepted that he was not metal toxic. Has he ever had a blood lead? I don't mean to be so harsh....I just hate when doctors write people off like that, and try to blame the parents or whatever else....for what's going on with a child. > > Well today and I had the appointment with the Dev. Pediatrican. > did really great! And I am so happy, the doctor said that he is > NOT autistic. I want to say thanks to all of you who were so kind. I > did appreciate all the e-mails and answers I got. I am so happy > tonight!! Not so upset like before. I know that and I need to do > a lot of work to get him talking properly. The doctor arranged for us > to have a course. It is called It takes two to talk. Does anyone know > about this? > > I asked about mercury and vaccines. Can you believe that the doctor > actually laughed? Then he showed me some stuff that said that there > was no mercury in the shots in Canada since way before was born. > I'm not sure about that. Can someone tell me if that is true? I am not > sure if I should still do chelation. Some one sent me to Generation > rescue. They said that speech delays are all mercury poisoning too > just like autism. So maybe I should still consider this. But not right > now. Because I as soooo relieved. Does anyone know if there is a group > for kids with speech delay and doing chelation? > Viv > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 2, 2007 Report Share Posted April 2, 2007 Hi Viv, my reply below... > I asked about mercury and vaccines. Can you believe that the doctor > actually laughed? Then he showed me some stuff that said that there > was no mercury in the shots in Canada since way before was born. > I'm not sure about that. Can someone tell me if that is true? *Officially*, there has not been any mercury in routine childhood vaccinations since 1994. However, when I asked the same questions as you a few years ago (I'm also Canadian) I received a number of private emails from Canadian parents telling me that vaccines here have been independently tested and the Hg content varied widely, from negligible to every bit as concentrated as American vaccines. When I asked Dr. Boyd Haley about the " thimerosal free " status of Canadian vaccines this winter he laughed pityingly at me, since he has personally done some of these independent tests. I didn't mind being a devil's advocate for Health Canada, since a pediatrician from my son's office was within earshot and got to hear this for himself! Apparently North American vaccines are made in large batches, and then the Hg is " chelated out " of the ones sent to Canada - so you can see how this process may lend itself to errors. Also, keep in mind that there are still a number of exceptions to the official " Thimerosal Free " status of Canadian vaccines, including flu shots. Here's a good website to learn more about vaccine risks in Canada: http://www.vran.org/index.htm FWIW *both* of my children test postitive for mercury toxicity, and they were born in 2000 and 2002. I am not > sure if I should still do chelation. We have had a lot of gains with chelation, and I would caution you not to rule it out prematurely. I would also recommend getting a DDI hair elements test and then asking for some help here to intrepret it for heavy metal toxicity to help you decide what to do. You can also find the correct information by purchasing this book: http://www.noamalgam.com/hairtestbook.html Some one sent me to Generation > rescue. They said that speech delays are all mercury poisoning too > just like autism. That's an oversimplification in my opinion. Mercury is not the only ingredient in vaccines that can cause neurological harm, nor is it the only environmental factor. Just a big one. >So maybe I should still consider this. I would go out of my way to make sure it is not an issue, since not dealing with heavy metal toxicity can cause serious harm down the road. Best wishes with your decision Rene Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 2, 2007 Report Share Posted April 2, 2007 julieobradovic@... wrote: This is a great list to help guide you towards helping him. Be thankful he's not as bad off as some of the kids, and thankful you are in a great spot for guidance if you need it. Nahla wrote: Amen. although my son is clearly not autistic, (in advanced math and reading) I found this site and others to be a catalyst in figuring out his health issues are Hg. I have gained a wealth of info and am humbled by the vast knowledge and experience of these parents have. I am staying put, for a while anyways...thank you. ~Nahla -------------- Original message -------------- From: " viv_june_61 " <Viv_June_61@...> Well today and I had the appointment with the Dev. Pediatrican. did really great! And I am so happy, the doctor said that he is NOT autistic. I want to say thanks to all of you who were so kind. I did appreciate all the e-mails and answers I got. I am so happy tonight!! Not so upset like before. I know that and I need to do a lot of work to get him talking properly. The doctor arranged for us to have a course. It is called It takes two to talk. Does anyone know about this? I asked about mercury and vaccines. Can you believe that the doctor actually laughed? Then he showed me some stuff that said that there was no mercury in the shots in Canada since way before was born. I'm not sure about that. Can someone tell me if that is true? I am not sure if I should still do chelation. Some one sent me to Generation rescue. They said that speech delays are all mercury poisoning too just like autism. So maybe I should still consider this. But not right now. Because I as soooo relieved. Does anyone know if there is a group for kids with speech delay and doing chelation? Viv Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 3, 2007 Report Share Posted April 3, 2007 ----- Original Message ----- From: Nahla Abbo Nahla wrote: Amen. although my son is clearly not autistic, (in advanced math and reading) <<<This is nice but many ASD kids are advanced in math and reading. ASD does not equal retardation or low IQ despite what you read. Autism is a social disorder not an intellectual disorder and some of the most talented people in math and reading are impacted socially. The issue is metal toxicity, not intellect.>>>>> I found this site and others to be a catalyst in figuring out his health issues are Hg. I have gained a wealth of info and am humbled by the vast knowledge and experience of these parents have. I am staying put, for a while anyways...thank you. ~Nahla -------------- Original message -------------- From: " viv_june_61 " <Viv_June_61@...> Well today and I had the appointment with the Dev. Pediatrican. did really great! And I am so happy, the doctor said that he is NOT autistic. I want to say thanks to all of you who were so kind. I did appreciate all the e-mails and answers I got. I am so happy tonight!! Not so upset like before. I know that and I need to do a lot of work to get him talking properly. The doctor arranged for us to have a course. It is called It takes two to talk. Does anyone know about this? I asked about mercury and vaccines. Can you believe that the doctor actually laughed? Then he showed me some stuff that said that there was no mercury in the shots in Canada since way before was born. I'm not sure about that. Can someone tell me if that is true? I am not sure if I should still do chelation. Some one sent me to Generation rescue. They said that speech delays are all mercury poisoning too just like autism. So maybe I should still consider this. But not right now. Because I as soooo relieved. Does anyone know if there is a group for kids with speech delay and doing chelation? Viv Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 3, 2007 Report Share Posted April 3, 2007 Viv, I'm going to tell you my story... not to burst your bubble but instead to hope you don't forget... My son never really started talking aside from a few words at 11 months and then one word here/there (losing it after a few weeks never to speak it again until age 3.5) with lots of babble. At 18 months his eye contact changed and he acted like a deaf child. His hearing checked out fine. I put him on the GFCF diet and fish oil after reading a story about a local ASD boy and his biomedical journey (this was 2002). We started OT and speech. At 25 months I had him evaluated by 2 doctors through our 0-3 program: a developmental pediatrician and a psychologist. Both said NO Autism. I was so relieved and my husband pushed to stop the GFCF diet. We did, but I kept the fish oil and a few other supplements. Over that next year my son's language didn't improve and he developed other issues like anxiety. When he was just turning 3 we had a speech eval at Children's Hospital (Seattle). The awesome SLP urged us to get a full ASD eval. Guess what? Autism. And they were right. I don't know how old your son is, but I think it is very difficult to diagnose these less severe kids at an early age like 2-2.5 years. The developmental expectations are lower and it is easier to just overlook deficits and think 'they'll just catch up'. They can also have a good day in the eval (my son did!) which doesn't give a realistic picture of the child. Do not rule out chelation. One of my son's biggest gains from chelation has been language. You can even use oral ALA instead of locating a prescribing MD for DMSA, DMPS etc. There are ways to chelate without being super, super aggressive. I hope your child doesn't follow the same path mine did, but please continue to look in to toxicity, diet and general health. At this point, I think my son can recover. He is now 6 and in kindergarten. I have been chelating for about 18 months; but the first year was probably wasted on TD-DMSA. I only wish I had been more aggressive when he was 'just' speech delayed! Take care, Pam p.s. I am in the US. I don't know about Canadian vaccinations. However, things like lead can affect speech development. My son has been dumping some lead since starting oral DMSA and language is exploding! Higher level language, too. > > Well today and I had the appointment with the Dev. Pediatrican. > did really great! And I am so happy, the doctor said that he is > NOT autistic. I want to say thanks to all of you who were so kind. I > did appreciate all the e-mails and answers I got. I am so happy > tonight!! Not so upset like before. I know that and I need to do > a lot of work to get him talking properly. The doctor arranged for us > to have a course. It is called It takes two to talk. Does anyone know > about this? > > I asked about mercury and vaccines. Can you believe that the doctor > actually laughed? Then he showed me some stuff that said that there > was no mercury in the shots in Canada since way before was born. > I'm not sure about that. Can someone tell me if that is true? I am not > sure if I should still do chelation. Some one sent me to Generation > rescue. They said that speech delays are all mercury poisoning too > just like autism. So maybe I should still consider this. But not right > now. Because I as soooo relieved. Does anyone know if there is a group > for kids with speech delay and doing chelation? > Viv > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 3, 2007 Report Share Posted April 3, 2007 Viv, The group you are looking for is " " . Only for speech issues. I think it is important for me to burst your bubble too. My son, now 6 with ASD was not given a diagnosis of ASD until he was almost 5. Many, many mainstram pediatricians and nuerologists are incompetent. They have the attitude that ASD is not treatable or curable. Therefore, even if they suspect it, they just tell you get speech therapy because there is nothing else you can do. That is a bunch of BULL! Treated early, the disease will not take its toll. Rather than take a doctor word for it who " laughs " at mercury in vaccine, suggest you do testing. There are many biomarkers used by the DAN foundation. Don;t let what happened to me happen to you. I waited too long to start treating and my son is paying the price. noaholiviaian <phaselow@...> wrote: Viv, I'm going to tell you my story... not to burst your bubble but instead to hope you don't forget... My son never really started talking aside from a few words at 11 months and then one word here/there (losing it after a few weeks never to speak it again until age 3.5) with lots of babble. At 18 months his eye contact changed and he acted like a deaf child. His hearing checked out fine. I put him on the GFCF diet and fish oil after reading a story about a local ASD boy and his biomedical journey (this was 2002). We started OT and speech. At 25 months I had him evaluated by 2 doctors through our 0-3 program: a developmental pediatrician and a psychologist. Both said NO Autism. I was so relieved and my husband pushed to stop the GFCF diet. We did, but I kept the fish oil and a few other supplements. Over that next year my son's language didn't improve and he developed other issues like anxiety. When he was just turning 3 we had a speech eval at Children's Hospital (Seattle). The awesome SLP urged us to get a full ASD eval. Guess what? Autism. And they were right. I don't know how old your son is, but I think it is very difficult to diagnose these less severe kids at an early age like 2-2.5 years. The developmental expectations are lower and it is easier to just overlook deficits and think 'they'll just catch up'. They can also have a good day in the eval (my son did!) which doesn't give a realistic picture of the child. Do not rule out chelation. One of my son's biggest gains from chelation has been language. You can even use oral ALA instead of locating a prescribing MD for DMSA, DMPS etc. There are ways to chelate without being super, super aggressive. I hope your child doesn't follow the same path mine did, but please continue to look in to toxicity, diet and general health. At this point, I think my son can recover. He is now 6 and in kindergarten. I have been chelating for about 18 months; but the first year was probably wasted on TD-DMSA. I only wish I had been more aggressive when he was 'just' speech delayed! Take care, Pam p.s. I am in the US. I don't know about Canadian vaccinations. However, things like lead can affect speech development. My son has been dumping some lead since starting oral DMSA and language is exploding! Higher level language, too. > > Well today and I had the appointment with the Dev. Pediatrican. > did really great! And I am so happy, the doctor said that he is > NOT autistic. I want to say thanks to all of you who were so kind. I > did appreciate all the e-mails and answers I got. I am so happy > tonight!! Not so upset like before. I know that and I need to do > a lot of work to get him talking properly. The doctor arranged for us > to have a course. It is called It takes two to talk. Does anyone know > about this? > > I asked about mercury and vaccines. Can you believe that the doctor > actually laughed? Then he showed me some stuff that said that there > was no mercury in the shots in Canada since way before was born. > I'm not sure about that. Can someone tell me if that is true? I am not > sure if I should still do chelation. Some one sent me to Generation > rescue. They said that speech delays are all mercury poisoning too > just like autism. So maybe I should still consider this. But not right > now. Because I as soooo relieved. Does anyone know if there is a group > for kids with speech delay and doing chelation? > Viv > --------------------------------- TV dinner still cooling? Check out " Tonight's Picks " on TV. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 3, 2007 Report Share Posted April 3, 2007 But Abid, there is ALWAYS hope! Barb Re: [ ] Re: good news Viv, The group you are looking for is " " . Only for speech issues. I think it is important for me to burst your bubble too. My son, now 6 with ASD was not given a diagnosis of ASD until he was almost 5. Many, many mainstram pediatricians and nuerologists are incompetent. They have the attitude that ASD is not treatable or curable. Therefore, even if they suspect it, they just tell you get speech therapy because there is nothing else you can do. That is a bunch of BULL! Treated early, the disease will not take its toll. Rather than take a doctor word for it who " laughs " at mercury in vaccine, suggest you do testing. There are many biomarkers used by the DAN foundation. Don;t let what happened to me happen to you. I waited too long to start treating and my son is paying the price. noaholiviaian <phaselow@...> wrote: Viv, I'm going to tell you my story... not to burst your bubble but instead to hope you don't forget... My son never really started talking aside from a few words at 11 months and then one word here/there (losing it after a few weeks never to speak it again until age 3.5) with lots of babble. At 18 months his eye contact changed and he acted like a deaf child. His hearing checked out fine. I put him on the GFCF diet and fish oil after reading a story about a local ASD boy and his biomedical journey (this was 2002). We started OT and speech. At 25 months I had him evaluated by 2 doctors through our 0-3 program: a developmental pediatrician and a psychologist. Both said NO Autism. I was so relieved and my husband pushed to stop the GFCF diet. We did, but I kept the fish oil and a few other supplements. Over that next year my son's language didn't improve and he developed other issues like anxiety. When he was just turning 3 we had a speech eval at Children's Hospital (Seattle). The awesome SLP urged us to get a full ASD eval. Guess what? Autism. And they were right. I don't know how old your son is, but I think it is very difficult to diagnose these less severe kids at an early age like 2-2.5 years. The developmental expectations are lower and it is easier to just overlook deficits and think 'they'll just catch up'. They can also have a good day in the eval (my son did!) which doesn't give a realistic picture of the child. Do not rule out chelation. One of my son's biggest gains from chelation has been language. You can even use oral ALA instead of locating a prescribing MD for DMSA, DMPS etc. There are ways to chelate without being super, super aggressive. I hope your child doesn't follow the same path mine did, but please continue to look in to toxicity, diet and general health. At this point, I think my son can recover. He is now 6 and in kindergarten. I have been chelating for about 18 months; but the first year was probably wasted on TD-DMSA. I only wish I had been more aggressive when he was 'just' speech delayed! Take care, Pam p.s. I am in the US. I don't know about Canadian vaccinations. However, things like lead can affect speech development. My son has been dumping some lead since starting oral DMSA and language is exploding! Higher level language, too. > > Well today and I had the appointment with the Dev. Pediatrican. > did really great! And I am so happy, the doctor said that he is > NOT autistic. I want to say thanks to all of you who were so kind. I > did appreciate all the e-mails and answers I got. I am so happy > tonight!! Not so upset like before. I know that and I need to do > a lot of work to get him talking properly. The doctor arranged for us > to have a course. It is called It takes two to talk. Does anyone know > about this? > > I asked about mercury and vaccines. Can you believe that the doctor > actually laughed? Then he showed me some stuff that said that there > was no mercury in the shots in Canada since way before was born. > I'm not sure about that. Can someone tell me if that is true? I am not > sure if I should still do chelation. Some one sent me to Generation > rescue. They said that speech delays are all mercury poisoning too > just like autism. So maybe I should still consider this. But not right > now. Because I as soooo relieved. Does anyone know if there is a group > for kids with speech delay and doing chelation? > Viv > --------------------------------- TV dinner still cooling? Check out " Tonight's Picks " on TV. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 3, 2007 Report Share Posted April 3, 2007 Viv: My son had a developmental evaluation at age 2.5 and they along with the neurologists that continue to see him today (age 4.5) have all said that my son is not autistic, too social, too connected, too much joint attention, etc, etc, and instead, they believe he has a neurologically based language disorder and that some of his behaviors (over-activity, attention span, tantrums were secondary or the result of the language delays). Now, at first I thought that speech delay meant well, he would catch-up, no need to worry. I quickly realized that this is all a very hazy analysis and that there is clearly a subset of children who either experienced neurological damage at some point or continue to experience it and it can be caused from a variety of insults or genetic predispositions or both and that it affects the language centers of the brain but spares some kids from more overt or classical autistic symptoms. I am not trying to burst your bubble at all, I am actually trying to save you some time and energy. My son still benefits and needs interventions as well, mostly therapeutic (he has a verbal behavior program) but I continue to try some medical interventions because I truly believe that very rarely is there such a thing as " speech delay " and that a child just catches up and grows out of it, almost always there are subtle neurological signs that indicate a dysfunction and it can be a mistake (not saying you are or will make it - I almost did) not to take the issues at hand very seriously just because there is no autism diagnosis. I wish you the best. [ ] good news Well today and I had the appointment with the Dev. Pediatrican. did really great! And I am so happy, the doctor said that he is NOT autistic. I want to say thanks to all of you who were so kind. I did appreciate all the e-mails and answers I got. I am so happy tonight!! Not so upset like before. I know that and I need to do a lot of work to get him talking properly. The doctor arranged for us to have a course. It is called It takes two to talk. Does anyone know about this? I asked about mercury and vaccines. Can you believe that the doctor actually laughed? Then he showed me some stuff that said that there was no mercury in the shots in Canada since way before was born. I'm not sure about that. Can someone tell me if that is true? I am not sure if I should still do chelation. Some one sent me to Generation rescue. They said that speech delays are all mercury poisoning too just like autism. So maybe I should still consider this. But not right now. Because I as soooo relieved. Does anyone know if there is a group for kids with speech delay and doing chelation? Viv Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 3, 2007 Report Share Posted April 3, 2007 I second Childrensapraxianet's group. When I first joined in 2002 they were doing no biomedical aside from fish oil. I believe a few chelating parents hopped on board and redirected the group focus a bit. Pam > > > > Well today and I had the appointment with the Dev. > Pediatrican. > > did really great! And I am so happy, the doctor said that he > is > > NOT autistic. I want to say thanks to all of you who were so kind. I > > did appreciate all the e-mails and answers I got. I am so happy > > tonight!! Not so upset like before. I know that and I need to > do > > a lot of work to get him talking properly. The doctor arranged for > us > > to have a course. It is called It takes two to talk. Does anyone > know > > about this? > > > > I asked about mercury and vaccines. Can you believe that the doctor > > actually laughed? Then he showed me some stuff that said that there > > was no mercury in the shots in Canada since way before was > born. > > I'm not sure about that. Can someone tell me if that is true? I am > not > > sure if I should still do chelation. Some one sent me to Generation > > rescue. They said that speech delays are all mercury poisoning too > > just like autism. So maybe I should still consider this. But not > right > > now. Because I as soooo relieved. Does anyone know if there is a > group > > for kids with speech delay and doing chelation? > > Viv > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > TV dinner still cooling? > Check out " Tonight's Picks " on TV. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 3, 2007 Report Share Posted April 3, 2007 Pam and some others, You are so kind to write back, all of you. My son is just 3 years old. He is a good kid and he is very healthy. I think that his only problem is that he doesn't talk as much as he should. The specialist said that too. My problem is that I thought that this was simple. I read on Generation Rescue that all autism, speech delay, ADHD is really mercury poisoning. So it seemed very easy to fix this problem. So I know that you are all trying to help. But I really don't understand. Why do people talk about diets? or fish oil? or lead poisoning? Kirby said that autism is a kind of mercury poisoning from vaccines, right? So I don't understand. If the doctor is right there is no mercury in vaccines in Canada. Can someone can tell me where to find out that this is not true? Then I can go to see the doctor again. But if there is no mercury in the shots in Canada, then what? That means that my son cannot be poisoned by mercury? Because we live in a clean city with no pollution. I have no fillings. did not get the Hepb shot. Like some people said that has mercury. Not flu shot either. I guess I am just confused. I want to do the right thing. Viv. > > Viv, > > I'm going to tell you my story... not to burst your bubble but > instead to hope you don't forget... > > My son never really started talking aside from a few words at 11 > months and then one word here/there (losing it after a few weeks > never to speak it again until age 3.5) with lots of babble. At 18 > months his eye contact changed and he acted like a deaf child. His > hearing checked out fine. > > I put him on the GFCF diet and fish oil after reading a story about a > local ASD boy and his biomedical journey (this was 2002). We started > OT and speech. > > At 25 months I had him evaluated by 2 doctors through our 0-3 > program: a developmental pediatrician and a psychologist. Both said > NO Autism. I was so relieved and my husband pushed to stop the GFCF > diet. We did, but I kept the fish oil and a few other supplements. > > Over that next year my son's language didn't improve and he developed > other issues like anxiety. When he was just turning 3 we had a > speech eval at Children's Hospital (Seattle). The awesome SLP urged > us to get a full ASD eval. Guess what? Autism. And they were right. > > I don't know how old your son is, but I think it is very difficult to > diagnose these less severe kids at an early age like 2-2.5 years. > The developmental expectations are lower and it is easier to just > overlook deficits and think 'they'll just catch up'. They can also > have a good day in the eval (my son did!) which doesn't give a > realistic picture of the child. > > Do not rule out chelation. One of my son's biggest gains from > chelation has been language. You can even use oral ALA instead of > locating a prescribing MD for DMSA, DMPS etc. There are ways to > chelate without being super, super aggressive. > > I hope your child doesn't follow the same path mine did, but please > continue to look in to toxicity, diet and general health. > > At this point, I think my son can recover. He is now 6 and in > kindergarten. I have been chelating for about 18 months; but the > first year was probably wasted on TD-DMSA. I only wish I had been > more aggressive when he was 'just' speech delayed! > > Take care, > > Pam > > p.s. I am in the US. I don't know about Canadian vaccinations. > However, things like lead can affect speech development. My son has > been dumping some lead since starting oral DMSA and language is > exploding! Higher level language, too. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 4, 2007 Report Share Posted April 4, 2007 Canada has removed thimersol from some of the vaccines, however; they did not remove them immediately, as they have long shelf lives. And, you must not forget, that the vaccines have aluminium in them which is just as toxic as mercury. viv_june_61 <Viv_June_61@...> wrote: Pam and some others, You are so kind to write back, all of you. My son is just 3 years old. He is a good kid and he is very healthy. I think that his only problem is that he doesn't talk as much as he should. The specialist said that too. My problem is that I thought that this was simple. I read on Generation Rescue that all autism, speech delay, ADHD is really mercury poisoning. So it seemed very easy to fix this problem. So I know that you are all trying to help. But I really don't understand. Why do people talk about diets? or fish oil? or lead poisoning? Kirby said that autism is a kind of mercury poisoning from vaccines, right? So I don't understand. If the doctor is right there is no mercury in vaccines in Canada. Can someone can tell me where to find out that this is not true? Then I can go to see the doctor again. But if there is no mercury in the shots in Canada, then what? That means that my son cannot be poisoned by mercury? Because we live in a clean city with no pollution. I have no fillings. did not get the Hepb shot. Like some people said that has mercury. Not flu shot either. I guess I am just confused. I want to do the right thing. Viv. > > Viv, > > I'm going to tell you my story... not to burst your bubble but > instead to hope you don't forget... > > My son never really started talking aside from a few words at 11 > months and then one word here/there (losing it after a few weeks > never to speak it again until age 3.5) with lots of babble. At 18 > months his eye contact changed and he acted like a deaf child. His > hearing checked out fine. > > I put him on the GFCF diet and fish oil after reading a story about a > local ASD boy and his biomedical journey (this was 2002). We started > OT and speech. > > At 25 months I had him evaluated by 2 doctors through our 0-3 > program: a developmental pediatrician and a psychologist. Both said > NO Autism. I was so relieved and my husband pushed to stop the GFCF > diet. We did, but I kept the fish oil and a few other supplements. > > Over that next year my son's language didn't improve and he developed > other issues like anxiety. When he was just turning 3 we had a > speech eval at Children's Hospital (Seattle). The awesome SLP urged > us to get a full ASD eval. Guess what? Autism. And they were right. > > I don't know how old your son is, but I think it is very difficult to > diagnose these less severe kids at an early age like 2-2.5 years. > The developmental expectations are lower and it is easier to just > overlook deficits and think 'they'll just catch up'. They can also > have a good day in the eval (my son did!) which doesn't give a > realistic picture of the child. > > Do not rule out chelation. One of my son's biggest gains from > chelation has been language. You can even use oral ALA instead of > locating a prescribing MD for DMSA, DMPS etc. There are ways to > chelate without being super, super aggressive. > > I hope your child doesn't follow the same path mine did, but please > continue to look in to toxicity, diet and general health. > > At this point, I think my son can recover. He is now 6 and in > kindergarten. I have been chelating for about 18 months; but the > first year was probably wasted on TD-DMSA. I only wish I had been > more aggressive when he was 'just' speech delayed! > > Take care, > > Pam > > p.s. I am in the US. I don't know about Canadian vaccinations. > However, things like lead can affect speech development. My son has > been dumping some lead since starting oral DMSA and language is > exploding! Higher level language, too. > > --------------------------------- All new - --------------------------------- Get a sneak peak at messages with a handy reading pane. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 1, 2007 Report Share Posted June 1, 2007 That's great news! I hope he keeps growing!! ~~ > > Our son has been in his danmar helmet for 3 1/2 weeks. We had his measurements taken > and the ortho said he must have hit a growth spurt. She said if he keeps growing at this rate, > we may be finished in 6 weeks! > I don't want to get too excited because he may not continue with this growth spurt, but I'm > very happy. She said we couldnt have had better results and she's very happy with the > progress. > I thought there was a big change, but I wasn't sure if it was just me wanting to see results. > I'm so happy we decided to do this. It was a difficult decision, but the right one. > Yesterday he took his helmet off (impressive for a guy who is not even 5 months I think), but > he didn't do it today. I'm hoping we wont have to add a strap. His skin looks less irritated. > The Aveeno baby lotion is helping a lot. So basically, it's a going really well. > Thanks for all of your input and support! > > , Michigan > Noah (5 months June 5), Danmar Helmet (3 1/2 weeks) > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 1, 2007 Report Share Posted June 1, 2007 thanks for the update on Noah. sounds like he is doing really well. -christine sydney 17 mo starband grad > > Our son has been in his danmar helmet for 3 1/2 weeks. We had his measurements taken > and the ortho said he must have hit a growth spurt. She said if he keeps growing at this rate, > we may be finished in 6 weeks! > I don't want to get too excited because he may not continue with this growth spurt, but I'm > very happy. She said we couldnt have had better results and she's very happy with the > progress. > I thought there was a big change, but I wasn't sure if it was just me wanting to see results. > I'm so happy we decided to do this. It was a difficult decision, but the right one. > Yesterday he took his helmet off (impressive for a guy who is not even 5 months I think), but > he didn't do it today. I'm hoping we wont have to add a strap. His skin looks less irritated. > The Aveeno baby lotion is helping a lot. So basically, it's a going really well. > Thanks for all of your input and support! > > , Michigan > Noah (5 months June 5), Danmar Helmet (3 1/2 weeks) > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 2, 2007 Report Share Posted June 2, 2007 Great news !! I hope the growth and improvement keeps up! I know my son is already getting uncomfortable in this weather!! One idea to help with smell and spots that might get irritated- is baby powder. I put some in his hair, and even some on the helmet. Theresa Warren MI Becker Helmet > > Our son has been in his danmar helmet for 3 1/2 weeks. We had his measurements taken > and the ortho said he must have hit a growth spurt. She said if he keeps growing at this rate, > we may be finished in 6 weeks! > I don't want to get too excited because he may not continue with this growth spurt, but I'm > very happy. She said we couldnt have had better results and she's very happy with the > progress. > I thought there was a big change, but I wasn't sure if it was just me wanting to see results. > I'm so happy we decided to do this. It was a difficult decision, but the right one. > Yesterday he took his helmet off (impressive for a guy who is not even 5 months I think), but > he didn't do it today. I'm hoping we wont have to add a strap. His skin looks less irritated. > The Aveeno baby lotion is helping a lot. So basically, it's a going really well. > Thanks for all of your input and support! > > , Michigan > Noah (5 months June 5), Danmar Helmet (3 1/2 weeks) > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 2, 2007 Report Share Posted June 2, 2007 Thanks! I keep forgetting to ask about baby powder. I will try that. It is getting pretty stinky. On 6/2/07 12:47 PM, " Theresa " <starlight29341@...> wrote: Great news !! I hope the growth and improvement keeps up! I know my son is already getting uncomfortable in this weather!! One idea to help with smell and spots that might get irritated- is baby powder. I put some in his hair, and even some on the helmet. Theresa Warren MI Becker Helmet > > Our son has been in his danmar helmet for 3 1/2 weeks. We had his measurements taken > and the ortho said he must have hit a growth spurt. She said if he keeps growing at this rate, > we may be finished in 6 weeks! > I don't want to get too excited because he may not continue with this growth spurt, but I'm > very happy. She said we couldnt have had better results and she's very happy with the > progress. > I thought there was a big change, but I wasn't sure if it was just me wanting to see results. > I'm so happy we decided to do this. It was a difficult decision, but the right one. > Yesterday he took his helmet off (impressive for a guy who is not even 5 months I think), but > he didn't do it today. I'm hoping we wont have to add a strap. His skin looks less irritated. > The Aveeno baby lotion is helping a lot. So basically, it's a going really well. > Thanks for all of your input and support! > > , Michigan > Noah (5 months June 5), Danmar Helmet (3 1/2 weeks) > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 3, 2007 Report Share Posted June 3, 2007 That is great news!! Thanks for sharing. I am keeping my fingers crossed for continued growth spurts. Angie and Jenna Good News Our son has been in his danmar helmet for 3 1/2 weeks. We had his measurements taken and the ortho said he must have hit a growth spurt. She said if he keeps growing at this rate, we may be finished in 6 weeks!I don't want to get too excited because he may not continue with this growth spurt, but I'm very happy. She said we couldnt have had better results and she's very happy with the progress.I thought there was a big change, but I wasn't sure if it was just me wanting to see results.I'm so happy we decided to do this. It was a difficult decision, but the right one.Yesterday he took his helmet off (impressive for a guy who is not even 5 months I think), but he didn't do it today. I'm hoping we wont have to add a strap. His skin looks less irritated. The Aveeno baby lotion is helping a lot. So basically, it's a going really well.Thanks for all of your input and support!, MichiganNoah (5 months June 5), Danmar Helmet (3 1/2 weeks) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 18, 2007 Report Share Posted June 18, 2007 DEE - indeed, that is good news!! keep on sharing your progress with the group!! it inspires all of us to continue pushing ahead!! marshiris@... See what's free at AOL.com. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 21, 2007 Report Share Posted June 21, 2007 Hey Carol, that is great!!!!! I nursed my mom thru both of her knee replacements and she did great. She was 77 when she did her first and 78 on her other one. The most important thing to do is keep moving that knee. Mom would cry with the pain but I kept helping her move it. She did a 90 degree within the second week. I will keep you in my prayers. Good Luck!!!! Soft hugs and Prayers, Deta aka Fayray >From: " carol " <sweetpeamoss@...> >Reply- > >Subject: [ ] Good News >Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2007 10:21:31 -0000 > >I finally am going to get new knees!! Right now i can hardly walk to >the bathroom, can't do my own housework, garden or go just about >anywhere besides church and that is painful. but july 31st i get a >new left knee and then about 6 weeks later the right one. oh i know >it will hurt like hell but i'm focusing on the long run where i can >get out of this dang recliner and actually move around. it's not a >cure but will certainly improve the quality of my life as this is my >worst spot and i am in pain 24/7. so keep me in your prayers and i >will keep you posted on the progress. have heard some who thought >they were dying and others who just jumped up and started moving. i >guess it depends on your pain threshold. and we all know that we are >used to pain and lots of it so i'm aiming to be one who just bounces >up cuz i may be in pain for a few weeks but the beats a few years. >have a great day > _________________________________________________________________ Like puzzles? Play free games & earn great prizes. Play Clink now. http://club.live.com/clink.aspx?icid=clink_hotmailtextlink2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 21, 2007 Report Share Posted June 21, 2007 Hi My sister in law had bilateral total knee replacement on April 16th---she is only 43 yrs old, but, has had JRA/RA since age two Her surgeon suggested the one knee then six weeks later the other like you describe, but, she chose to do both at once....one major surgery, one anesthesia, one hospitalization, one stretch out of work, etc. It only involved one more day in the hospital and then one week at a rehab center (because she lives alone) to do both at once ! She is walking well now, two months later, no cane or anything, and driving and will soon be going back to work as a physical therapy asst. at a center for handicapped children. She resisted the surgery for several years...but, now is very glad she did it nancy At 06:21 AM 6/21/2007, you wrote: >I finally am going to get new knees!! Right now i can hardly walk to >the bathroom, can't do my own housework, garden or go just about >anywhere besides church and that is painful. but july 31st i get a >new left knee and then about 6 weeks later the right one. oh i know >it will hurt like hell but i'm focusing on the long run where i can >get out of this dang recliner and actually move around. it's not a >cure but will certainly improve the quality of my life as this is my >worst spot and i am in pain 24/7. so keep me in your prayers and i >will keep you posted on the progress. have heard some who thought >they were dying and others who just jumped up and started moving. i >guess it depends on your pain threshold. and we all know that we are >used to pain and lots of it so i'm aiming to be one who just bounces >up cuz i may be in pain for a few weeks but the beats a few years. >have a great day > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 21, 2007 Report Share Posted June 21, 2007 I will have you in my prayers!!!! [ ] Good News I finally am going to get new knees!! Right now i can hardly walk to the bathroom, can't do my own housework, garden or go just about anywhere besides church and that is painful. but july 31st i get a new left knee and then about 6 weeks later the right one. oh i know it will hurt like hell but i'm focusing on the long run where i can get out of this dang recliner and actually move around. it's not a cure but will certainly improve the quality of my life as this is my worst spot and i am in pain 24/7. so keep me in your prayers and i will keep you posted on the progress. have heard some who thought they were dying and others who just jumped up and started moving. i guess it depends on your pain threshold. and we all know that we are used to pain and lots of it so i'm aiming to be one who just bounces up cuz i may be in pain for a few weeks but the beats a few years. have a great day ________________________________________________________________________________\ ____ Sick sense of humor? Visit TV's Comedy with an Edge to see what's on, when. http://tv./collections/222 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 21, 2007 Report Share Posted June 21, 2007 Carol - good luck and keep us posted!! Rose --------------------------------- Need a vacation? Get great deals to amazing places on Travel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 21, 2007 Report Share Posted June 21, 2007 Great news Carol! I will keep you in my prayers, keep us posted, Tawny > > I finally am going to get new knees!! Right now i can hardly walk to > the bathroom, can't do my own housework, garden or go just about > anywhere besides church and that is painful. but july 31st i get a > new left knee and then about 6 weeks later the right one. oh i know > it will hurt like hell but i'm focusing on the long run where i can > get out of this dang recliner and actually move around. it's not a > cure but will certainly improve the quality of my life as this is my > worst spot and i am in pain 24/7. so keep me in your prayers and i > will keep you posted on the progress. have heard some who thought > they were dying and others who just jumped up and started moving. i > guess it depends on your pain threshold. and we all know that we are > used to pain and lots of it so i'm aiming to be one who just bounces > up cuz i may be in pain for a few weeks but the beats a few years. > have a great day > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 24, 2007 Report Share Posted June 24, 2007 carol wrote: > > >I finally am going to get new knees!! > Congratulations!! Nina Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 16, 2007 Report Share Posted September 16, 2007 Lynn ~ Hooray ! I am so happy for you that that horrible pain is do-able right now. Tomorrow, they will even be better ! The power of prayers ! Love DedeSee what's new at AOL.com and Make AOL Your Homepage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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