disability

[Guest guest]

Thanks Debra. The onset date was agreed as April 2008 so next

month it will be two years. Then I can call my doctor and have

them do a referral to a Neurosurgeon after I get my card.

I don't know about the fat check. My attorney gets 25% then

I have to pay my landlord for back rent. I also read this and

I don't know if it's true or not:

" *special note: social security disability cases are subject to a 5 month

waiting period. What does this mean? Simply this: for whatever number of months

you are owed backpay, subtract five of them and consider them appropriated by

the federal government.

Unfortunately, the 5 month waiting period is a regulatory means by which the

Social Security Administration can save money by taking back 5 months worth of

past due benefits from every social security claimant. "

Re: [PainInTheNeck- Back] Disability

PainInTheNeck- Back@groups .com

Date: Thursday, March 4, 2010, 5:22 PM

Just to let you all know I had my hearing today for

Social Security Disability and SSI. I didn't take all my pain

meds because I wanted to be at least semi coherent.

[Guest guest]

Thanks Debra. The onset date was agreed as April 2008 so next

month it will be two years. Then I can call my doctor and have

them do a referral to a Neurosurgeon after I get my card.

I don't know about the fat check. My attorney gets 25% then

I have to pay my landlord for back rent. I also read this and

I don't know if it's true or not:

" *special note: social security disability cases are subject to a 5 month

waiting period. What does this mean? Simply this: for whatever number of months

you are owed backpay, subtract five of them and consider them appropriated by

the federal government.

Unfortunately, the 5 month waiting period is a regulatory means by which the

Social Security Administration can save money by taking back 5 months worth of

past due benefits from every social security claimant. "

Re: [PainInTheNeck- Back] Disability

PainInTheNeck- Back@groups .com

Date: Thursday, March 4, 2010, 5:22 PM

Just to let you all know I had my hearing today for

Social Security Disability and SSI. I didn't take all my pain

meds because I wanted to be at least semi coherent.

[Guest guest]

All of the people I have known who got SSD recieved back SSI payments for those

5 months because they had no income during that time.  My boyfriend got 2 back

checks, 1 from SSD and 1 from SSI.

 

Jane H.

From: rosedragon <rosedragon@ charterm i.net>

Subject: Re: [PainInTheNeck- Back] Disability

PainInTheNeck- Back@groups .com

Date: Thursday, March 4, 2010, 5:22 PM

Just to let you all know I had my hearing today for

Social Security Disability and SSI. I didn't take all my pain

meds because I wanted to be at least semi coherent.

[Guest guest]

ine..

Its the 5 months of no work that makes you eligable for SSD....NO they do not

take back 5 months of benefits out.  If you are entitled to 24 months of

benefit then you will receive 22 months (you havent earned the pay for march

yet)  Your last day of work should have been 5 full months prior....and there

are no benefits for that period of time unless you qualify for SSI and I believe

they then take that out of your SSD check.

Jane ...explain please.  If you receive a SSD back check, you then have to

much money on hand to get SSI so how can they pay you a back check, I dont

understand.

Deb RN 

 Debra

________________________________

From: Jane <borlan9191962@...>

neck pain

Sent: Fri, March 5, 2010 4:28:00 PM

Subject: Re: Disability

 

All of the people I have known who got SSD recieved back SSI payments for those

5 months because they had no income during that time.  My boyfriend got 2 back

checks, 1 from SSD and 1 from SSI.

 

Jane H.

From: rosedragon <rosedragon@ charterm i.net>

Subject: Re: [PainInTheNeck- Back] Disability

PainInTheNeck- Back@groups .com

Date: Thursday, March 4, 2010, 5:22 PM

Just to let you all know I had my hearing today for

Social Security Disability and SSI. I didn't take all my pain

meds because I wanted to be at least semi coherent.

[Guest guest]

You recieve SSD back to the onset date less the 5 months waiting period. During

those 5 months you cannot work so you have no income. If your income is low

enough to qualify for SSI (see previous sentence) then you recieve it for those

first 5 months. After that you have SSD income so most people no longer qualify

for SSI. This may not be the case for everyone, I don't know, but it has been

this way for the people I know who have gotten SSD. The rules for getting

approved for SSI are not as stringent as those for SSD, supposedly, yet I have

never known anyone who got SSI that did not get SSD. I hope this makes sense. I

just had a bottle of wine to relieve a little of the pain and help me sleep.

 

Jane H.

From: rosedragon <rosedragon@ charterm i.net>

Subject: Re: [PainInTheNeck- Back] Disability

PainInTheNeck- Back@groups .com

Date: Thursday, March 4, 2010, 5:22 PM

Just to let you all know I had my hearing today for

Social Security Disability and SSI. I didn't take all my pain

meds because I wanted to be at least semi coherent.

[Guest guest]

Yes, that makes sense. But why wouldn't you get SSI too?

If a person is only getting SSDI and that amount is not enough

to cover rent, utilities, etc, the that person should be able

to also get SSI..yes? no? LOL

ine

Re: [PainInTheNeck- Back] Disability

PainInTheNeck- Back@groups .com

Date: Thursday, March 4, 2010, 5:22 PM

Just to let you all know I had my hearing today for

Social Security Disability and SSI. I didn't take all my pain

meds because I wanted to be at least semi coherent.

[Guest guest]

Social Security does'nt care if your SSDI monthly check covers the basic living

expenses. SSI is based on income and that income can be very low for you not to

qualify. There is an income table on their website explaning income limits for

SSI. This is the reason people work a few hours, hopefully under the table,

while drawing benefits, even though they really are not able enough to do so.

It's the reason many elderly or disabled people go without the proper medicines

and good healthy food. I have known happily married couples who have been forced

to divorce then lie about their living together just so they can make ends meet.

It is very sad, yet it is a fact of life for many people.

 

Got on a tangent for a minute there,

Jane H.

From: rosedragon <rosedragon@ charterm i.net>

Subject: Re: [PainInTheNeck- Back] Disability

PainInTheNeck- Back@groups .com

Date: Thursday, March 4, 2010, 5:22 PM

Just to let you all know I had my hearing today for

Social Security Disability and SSI. I didn't take all my pain

meds because I wanted to be at least semi coherent.

[Guest guest]

Jane,

Well said.  I also saw on the SSA site that it doesnt care about " expenses " or

how much it costs for the applicant to live.

Deb RN

 Debra

________________________________

From: Jane <borlan9191962@...>

neck pain

Sent: Sat, March 6, 2010 9:19:54 AM

Subject: Re: Disability

 

Social Security does'nt care if your SSDI monthly check covers the basic living

expenses. SSI is based on income and that income can be very low for you not to

qualify. There is an income table on their website explaning income limits for

SSI. This is the reason people work a few hours, hopefully under the table,

while drawing benefits, even though they really are not able enough to do so.

It's the reason many elderly or disabled people go without the proper medicines

and good healthy food. I have known happily married couples who have been forced

to divorce then lie about their living together just so they can make ends meet.

It is very sad, yet it is a fact of life for many people.

 

Got on a tangent for a minute there,

Jane H.

..

[Guest guest]

I checked out the SSI site and basically if you make

more than six hundred and something dollars a month

you don't qualify for SSI. That's if I'm reading it

correctly. I live alone so just my SSDI will be

figured.

ine

Re: Disability

Social Security does'nt care if your SSDI monthly check covers the basic

living expenses. SSI is based on income and that income can be very low for you

not to qualify. There is an income table on their website explaning income

limits for SSI. This is the reason people work a few hours, hopefully under the

table, while drawing benefits, even though they really are not able enough to do

so. It's the reason many elderly or disabled people go without the proper

medicines and good healthy food. I have known happily married couples who have

been forced to divorce then lie about their living together just so they can

make ends meet. It is very sad, yet it is a fact of life for many people.

Got on a tangent for a minute there,

Jane H.

.

[Guest guest]

I believe that it is 650....you are correct.

Deb RN

 Debra

________________________________

From: rosedragon <rosedragon@...>

neck pain

Sent: Sat, March 6, 2010 11:49:15 AM

Subject: Re: Disability

 

I checked out the SSI site and basically if you make

more than six hundred and something dollars a month

you don't qualify for SSI. That's if I'm reading it

correctly. I live alone so just my SSDI will be

figured.

ine

Re: [PainInTheNeck- Back] Disability

Social Security does'nt care if your SSDI monthly check covers the basic living

expenses. SSI is based on income and that income can be very low for you not to

qualify. There is an income table on their website explaning income limits for

SSI. This is the reason people work a few hours, hopefully under the table,

while drawing benefits, even though they really are not able enough to do so.

It's the reason many elderly or disabled people go without the proper medicines

and good healthy food. I have known happily married couples who have been forced

to divorce then lie about their living together just so they can make ends meet.

It is very sad, yet it is a fact of life for many people.

Got on a tangent for a minute there,

Jane H.

..

[Guest guest]

Lets see, $650.00 a month-$150.00 electricity, $30.00 minimum water & sewage,

$200.00 mortgage or rent (too low for most places), $30.00 phone, $40.00 cable,

$20.00 internet, that leaves $180.00 for food-medicine-gas for car-etc., etc.,

etc.. Can anyone actually live on $650.00 a month. I assure you the folks at

Social Security would not. Why do they expect antone else to. It's sad that this

is a fact of life , or fact of existence (because it's really not a life) for

many people on SSI and SSDI. I never thought at 47 this would be my future.

 

Jane H.

From: Debra <i_ownaberner@...>

Subject: Re: Disability

neck pain

Date: Saturday, March 6, 2010, 4:20 PM

 

I believe that it is 650....you are correct.

Deb RN

 Debra

____________ _________ _________ __

From: rosedragon <rosedragon@charterm i.net>

PainInTheNeck- Back@groups .com

Sent: Sat, March 6, 2010 11:49:15 AM

Subject: Re: [PainInTheNeck- Back] Disability

 

I checked out the SSI site and basically if you make

more than six hundred and something dollars a month

you don't qualify for SSI. That's if I'm reading it

correctly. I live alone so just my SSDI will be

figured.

ine

Re: [PainInTheNeck- Back] Disability

Social Security does'nt care if your SSDI monthly check covers the basic living

expenses. SSI is based on income and that income can be very low for you not to

qualify. There is an income table on their website explaning income limits for

SSI. This is the reason people work a few hours, hopefully under the table,

while drawing benefits, even though they really are not able enough to do so.

It's the reason many elderly or disabled people go without the proper medicines

and good healthy food. I have known happily married couples who have been forced

to divorce then lie about their living together just so they can make ends meet.

It is very sad, yet it is a fact of life for many people.

Got on a tangent for a minute there,

Jane H.

..

[Guest guest]

One can apply for food stamps and section 8 housing and Medicaid. I couldn't

find housing for less then 400.00 and I would probably be killed in the first

month as the areA where u can find cheap rent....it is not safe period paragraph

The system needs to change.

Deb rn

Sent from my iPhone

On Mar 6, 2010, at 10:33 PM, Jane <borlan9191962@...> wrote:

Lets see, $650.00 a month-$150.00 electricity, $30.00 minimum water & sewage,

$200.00 mortgage or rent (too low for most places), $30.00 phone, $40.00 cable,

$20.00 internet, that leaves $180.00 for food-medicine-gas for car-etc., etc.,

etc.. Can anyone actually live on $650.00 a month. I assure you the folks at

Social Security would not. Why do they expect antone else to. It's sad that this

is a fact of life , or fact of existence (because it's really not a life) for

many people on SSI and SSDI. I never thought at 47 this would be my future.

Jane H.

From: Debra <i_ownaberner@...>

Subject: Re: Disability

neck pain

Date: Saturday, March 6, 2010, 4:20 PM

I believe that it is 650....you are correct.

Deb RN

Debra

____________ _________ _________ __

From: rosedragon <rosedragon@charterm i.net>

PainInTheNeck- Back@groups .com

Sent: Sat, March 6, 2010 11:49:15 AM

Subject: Re: [PainInTheNeck- Back] Disability

I checked out the SSI site and basically if you make

more than six hundred and something dollars a month

you don't qualify for SSI. That's if I'm reading it

correctly. I live alone so just my SSDI will be

figured.

ine

Re: [PainInTheNeck- Back] Disability

Social Security does'nt care if your SSDI monthly check covers the basic living

expenses. SSI is based on income and that income can be very low for you not to

qualify. There is an income table on their website explaning income limits for

SSI. This is the reason people work a few hours, hopefully under the table,

while drawing benefits, even though they really are not able enough to do so.

It's the reason many elderly or disabled people go without the proper medicines

and good healthy food. I have known happily married couples who have been forced

to divorce then lie about their living together just so they can make ends meet.

It is very sad, yet it is a fact of life for many people.

Got on a tangent for a minute there,

Jane H.

..

[Guest guest]

yes, it can be done.  not called living, it is called survival. you do without

internet and go to the library. get on hud and pay less rent, grocery shop at

the dollar store and walmart.  apply for help for electric every winter.  go

without cable so you can buy what you cannot with food stamps like toilet paper

and paper towels, cleaners and co-pays for meds. you can do without a lot if you

do not have the money to pay for it. who says you have a right to have a car, it

costs car insurance and gas. ride the bus or a bike. find some social program to

take you to the doctor appointments you have. be thankful for your blessings

that you get social security at all let alone medical coverage. wyld

From: Debra <i_ownaberner>

Subject: Re: [PainInTheNeck- Back] Disability

PainInTheNeck- Back@groups .com

Date: Saturday, March 6, 2010, 4:20 PM

 

I believe that it is 650....you are correct.

Deb RN

 Debra

____________ _________ _________ __

From: rosedragon <rosedragon@ charterm i.net>

PainInTheNeck- Back@groups .com

Sent: Sat, March 6, 2010 11:49:15 AM

Subject: Re: [PainInTheNeck- Back] Disability

 

I checked out the SSI site and basically if you make

more than six hundred and something dollars a month

you don't qualify for SSI. That's if I'm reading it

correctly. I live alone so just my SSDI will be

figured.

ine

Re: [PainInTheNeck- Back] Disability

Social Security does'nt care if your SSDI monthly check covers the basic living

expenses. SSI is based on income and that income can be very low for you not to

qualify. There is an income table on their website explaning income limits for

SSI. This is the reason people work a few hours, hopefully under the table,

while drawing benefits, even though they really are not able enough to do so.

It's the reason many elderly or disabled people go without the proper medicines

and good healthy food. I have known happily married couples who have been forced

to divorce then lie about their living together just so they can make ends meet.

It is very sad, yet it is a fact of life for many people.

Got on a tangent for a minute there,

Jane H.

..

[Guest guest]

pauline, because they do not care and there is only so much to go around. it is

suppose to help, not totally support us. we are suppose to have worked for a

company when well that gave us retirement and benefits and it was thought only a

few would be on it like widows and the disabled. but the numbers are too high

that are collecting. people are living a lot longer. the needs have outgrown the

purpose of social security. also, when it started, families lived together and

helped each other, took family in when they were in need, etc. wow, have things

changed and not for the better. wyld

From: rosedragon <rosedragon@ charterm i.net>

Subject: Re: [PainInTheNeck- Back] Disability

PainInTheNeck- Back@groups .com

Date: Thursday, March 4, 2010, 5:22 PM

Just to let you all know I had my hearing today for

Social Security Disability and SSI. I didn't take all my pain

meds because I wanted to be at least semi coherent.

[Guest guest]

Well I do have another question. Say, for discussion sake, a person gets

$900 a month on SSDI. Does SSI take that money away so you only

get the $650? I'm confused.

Re: [PainInTheNeck- Back] Disability

PainInTheNeck- Back@groups .com

Date: Thursday, March 4, 2010, 5:22 PM

Just to let you all know I had my hearing today for

Social Security Disability and SSI. I didn't take all my pain

meds because I wanted to be at least semi coherent.

[Guest guest]

Well I do have another question. Say, for discussion sake, a person gets

$900 a month on SSDI. Does SSI take that money away so you only

get the $650? I'm confused.

Re: [PainInTheNeck- Back] Disability

PainInTheNeck- Back@groups .com

Date: Thursday, March 4, 2010, 5:22 PM

Just to let you all know I had my hearing today for

Social Security Disability and SSI. I didn't take all my pain

meds because I wanted to be at least semi coherent.

[Guest guest]

Of course not. If you get SSDI and it is over $650.00 you do not qualify and

will not get SSI. Very few people draw both SSDI & SSI at the same time. They

don't take money back from your SSDI payments except for Medicare part B and D

if you choose them.

 

Jane H.

From: rosedragon <rosedragon@ charterm i.net>

Subject: Re: [PainInTheNeck- Back] Disability

PainInTheNeck- Back@groups .com

Date: Thursday, March 4, 2010, 5:22 PM

Just to let you all know I had my hearing today for

Social Security Disability and SSI. I didn't take all my pain

meds because I wanted to be at least semi coherent.

[Guest guest]

Ok... I'm just so confused about this whole thing.

I guess I should just wait for the paperwork and see

what's what. My girlfriend said I'm driving myself

crazy with " what ifs " . LOL

ine

Re: [PainInTheNeck- Back] Disability

PainInTheNeck- Back@groups .com

Date: Thursday, March 4, 2010, 5:22 PM

Just to let you all know I had my hearing today for

Social Security Disability and SSI. I didn't take all my pain

meds because I wanted to be at least semi coherent.

[Guest guest]

I get both ssdi and & nbsp;ssi. & nbsp;On ssdi I get 682 & nbsp;ans 12 dollars on

ssi. & nbsp;They do keep that 5 months of pay and public aid will help pay your

medicare premiums. & nbsp;I am just going through it. & nbsp;I just got approved

after 30 months of fighting.

-- Sent from my Palm Pixi

On Mar 7, 2010 8:54 AM, rosedragon & lt;rosedragon@... & gt; wrote:

& nbsp;

Ok... I'm just so confused about this whole thing.

I guess I should just wait for the paperwork and see

what's what. My girlfriend said I'm driving myself

crazy with " what ifs " . LOL

ine

Re: [PainInTheNeck- Back] Disability

PainInTheNeck- Back@groups .com

Date: Thursday, March 4, 2010, 5:22 PM

Just to let you all know I had my hearing today for

Social Security Disability and SSI. I didn't take all my pain

meds because I wanted to be at least semi coherent.

[Guest guest]

How much are Medicare premiums? Do they vary by state?

It took two years for me to be finally approved.

ine

Re: [PainInTheNeck- Back] Disability

PainInTheNeck- Back@groups .com

Date: Thursday, March 4, 2010, 5:22 PM

Just to let you all know I had my hearing today for

Social Security Disability and SSI. I didn't take all my pain

meds because I wanted to be at least semi coherent.

[Guest guest]

My premium in illinois is 110 a month

-- Sent from my Palm Pixi

On Mar 7, 2010 10:04 AM, rosedragon & lt;rosedragon@... & gt; wrote:

& nbsp;

How much are Medicare premiums? Do they vary by state?

It took two years for me to be finally approved.

ine

Re: [PainInTheNeck- Back] Disability

PainInTheNeck- Back@groups .com

Date: Thursday, March 4, 2010, 5:22 PM

Just to let you all know I had my hearing today for

Social Security Disability and SSI. I didn't take all my pain

meds because I wanted to be at least semi coherent.

[Guest guest]

I'm in Michigan. And I just got approved this Thursday so now

I guess I'll just have to wait for paperwork or whatever you

get first.

Re: [PainInTheNeck- Back] Disability

PainInTheNeck- Back@groups .com

Date: Thursday, March 4, 2010, 5:22 PM

Just to let you all know I had my hearing today for

Social Security Disability and SSI. I didn't take all my pain

meds because I wanted to be at least semi coherent.

[Guest guest]

Yea lots of paperwork coming. & nbsp;Overwhelming sometimes.

-- Sent from my Palm Pixi

On Mar 7, 2010 10:38 AM, rosedragon & lt;rosedragon@... & gt; wrote:

& nbsp;

I'm in Michigan. And I just got approved this Thursday so now

I guess I'll just have to wait for paperwork or whatever you

get first.

Re: [PainInTheNeck- Back] Disability

PainInTheNeck- Back@groups .com

Date: Thursday, March 4, 2010, 5:22 PM

Just to let you all know I had my hearing today for

Social Security Disability and SSI. I didn't take all my pain

meds because I wanted to be at least semi coherent.

[Guest guest]

Dear ine,

I live in Vegas and get Medicare through SSDI, my premium is $97/monthly which

is taken out of my check. I also have a supplemental plan that I pay for to help

cover what Medicare won't, it includes my prescription plan, and also have a

dental plan, since Medicare won't pay for dental work. I thought Medicare

payments were the same in every state, but I guess I was wrong. I have a friend

in Oregon who also pays $97/month too. Maybe some states have different set ups

for payments amounts?

 

Jeannie

________________________________

From: rosedragon <rosedragon@...>

neck pain

Sent: Sun, March 7, 2010 8:04:29 AM

Subject: Re: Disability

 

How much are Medicare premiums? Do they vary by state?

It took two years for me to be finally approved.

ine

[Guest guest]

Hi all,

My daughter and her family live in Wa. state and live on welfare and SSI for my

grandson who is Autistic. They get a total of $1200. for 4 people, plus food

stamps, and their rent is $750. She asked about Sec. 8 housing, they do

something different now, first you have to get on the list for Public

housing(not in a safe area at all), then after they've moved into that, then

they can get on the list for Section 8 housing. Unreal. I know in some areas

public housing can be nice, not where she lives though, crime, gangs, drugs-all

of it is prevalent there. So she's stuck paying for a dumpy apt. that is not

weather proofed, nor will the landlady pay for anything that will help their

power bill be less, she's a slumlord. I know I'm ranting, but I feel so

helpless not being able to help her. Just being able to get on Sec. 8 list would

help their rent, but their local government changed the way that works.

 

Jeannie

________________________________

From: " I_ownaberner@... " <i_ownaberner@...>

" neck pain " <neck pain >

Sent: Sat, March 6, 2010 9:12:11 PM

Subject: Re: Disability

 

One can apply for food stamps and section 8 housing and Medicaid. I couldn't

find housing for less then 400.00 and I would probably be killed in the first

month as the areA where u can find cheap rent....it is not safe period paragraph

The system needs to change.

Deb rn

Sent from my iPhone

On Mar 6, 2010, at 10:33 PM, Jane <borlan9191962> wrote:

Lets see, $650.00 a month-$150.00 electricity, $30.00 minimum water & sewage,

$200.00 mortgage or rent (too low for most places), $30.00 phone, $40.00 cable,

$20.00 internet, that leaves $180.00 for food-medicine- gas for car-etc., etc.,

etc.. Can anyone actually live on $650.00 a month. I assure you the folks at

Social Security would not. Why do they expect antone else to. It's sad that this

is a fact of life , or fact of existence (because it's really not a life) for

many people on SSI and SSDI. I never thought at 47 this would be my future.

Jane H.

From: Debra <i_ownaberner>

Subject: Re: [PainInTheNeck- Back] Disability

PainInTheNeck- Back@groups .com

Date: Saturday, March 6, 2010, 4:20 PM

I believe that it is 650....you are correct.

Deb RN

Debra

____________ _________ _________ __

From: rosedragon <rosedragon@ charterm i.net>

PainInTheNeck- Back@groups .com

Sent: Sat, March 6, 2010 11:49:15 AM

Subject: Re: [PainInTheNeck- Back] Disability

I checked out the SSI site and basically if you make

more than six hundred and something dollars a month

you don't qualify for SSI. That's if I'm reading it

correctly. I live alone so just my SSDI will be

figured.

ine

Re: [PainInTheNeck- Back] Disability

Social Security does'nt care if your SSDI monthly check covers the basic living

expenses. SSI is based on income and that income can be very low for you not to

qualify. There is an income table on their website explaning income limits for

SSI. This is the reason people work a few hours, hopefully under the table,

while drawing benefits, even though they really are not able enough to do so.

It's the reason many elderly or disabled people go without the proper medicines

and good healthy food. I have known happily married couples who have been forced

to divorce then lie about their living together just so they can make ends meet.

It is very sad, yet it is a fact of life for many people.

Got on a tangent for a minute there,

Jane H.

..