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I think that there are different degrees of illness, and that's

what people don't get. I haven't been able to vacuum in 19 years,

my husband does it. I have a 6 year old thoroughbred gelding that

I've never ridden. I brush him and he has a very well conditioned

tail :) Both my daughters show, one Dressage, and the other Hunter

Jumper's. My hope and dream is to one day be able to ride again.

Right now it is a huge stress relief for me to just go to the stable

he is kept at and groom him. I don't have to think about being sick!!

I have more really bad days then good right now, but I just started

treatment this spring and after being so sick for more then 19 years

I'm not sure what the prognosis is. I'm hoping for the best!!

Kathy

>

>

> > I don't think that is what I said at all. If someone needs

> > disability, I think it is a good thing that we have it.

>

>

> It took me a couple of years after my dx to apply, Dr pushed me

and I am

> glad he did. I was in denial and just knew that this wasnt going

to be my

> life. Good thing is I have good days, which I take advantage of,

going to

> the store or even better, riding. Of course people see me those

days and

> ass'ume that this is me 24/7. Have gotten a few rude commentsbut

then I

> just tell them, well, you should see me the other 90% of the time

when

> vacuuming one room wears me out.

> There are people who take advantage of the system, of any

system. Have a

> guy up the road who is wheelchair bound and nearly blind. However

I have

> seen him digging post holes and using heavy equipment on the very

days I

> have seen him bumbling about in his wheelchair. Go figure.

>

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> Right now it is a huge stress relief for me to just go to the stable

> he is kept at and groom him. I don't have to think about being sick!!

Ohhhhh isnt that THE best treatment? *-) I lost my ol gelding a

couple years ago and he was my best bud. There was nothing in the world

better than going out and getting hugged by him. Ol dude thought he was a

lap dog. A 1250 lb lap dog LOL Worst day of my life was having him put

down. Took me nearly 2 years to get up the courage to ride the others

again.

You should get a mini *-) talk about personality plus LOL Have one and

he is just the cutest little guy. Such a ham.

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My heart goes out for those that try to judge some else I have been paralysis

from waist down range from the ten beging the worse and a one beening the best

as I start with lyme I was a one and going down hill from then on, but I still

keep trying I stood up for the first time in fifteen years for a whole 25

seconds. yayayaya so Kathy keep the faith and you will be ok. Bud

ps. I am glad I don.t have horse I be riding it .

Kathy <aiden424@...> wrote:

I think that there are different degrees of illness, and that's

what people don't get. I haven't been able to vacuum in 19 years,

my husband does it. I have a 6 year old thoroughbred gelding that

I've never ridden. I brush him and he has a very well conditioned

tail :) Both my daughters show, one Dressage, and the other Hunter

Jumper's. My hope and dream is to one day be able to ride again.

Right now it is a huge stress relief for me to just go to the stable

he is kept at and groom him. I don't have to think about being sick!!

I have more really bad days then good right now, but I just started

treatment this spring and after being so sick for more then 19 years

I'm not sure what the prognosis is. I'm hoping for the best!!

Kathy

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I had a little mini a couple years ago. I can do everything with

my thoroughbred that I did with Little Joe. We've had (Aiden) since

he was born, we were actually there for his birth. He doesn't know

that he's a horse, he's more like a big dog. I could crawl under him

and he wouldn't care. He is really a character. I do wish he was a

bit shorter. He's not huge, he's around 16 hands, but something

shorter would make it much easier to get on.

Kathy

>

> > Right now it is a huge stress relief for me to just go to the

stable

> > he is kept at and groom him. I don't have to think about being

sick!!

>

> Ohhhhh isnt that THE best treatment? *-) I lost my ol

gelding a

> couple years ago and he was my best bud. There was nothing in the

world

> better than going out and getting hugged by him. Ol dude thought

he was a

> lap dog. A 1250 lb lap dog LOL Worst day of my life was having

him put

> down. Took me nearly 2 years to get up the courage to ride the

others

> again.

> You should get a mini *-) talk about personality plus LOL

Have one and

> he is just the cutest little guy. Such a ham.

>

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Wow, good for you!!! I haven't been able to stand up either for the

last 19 years. I have stood up in the last couple months for just a

few seconds too. YIPPY!!! I get instant pressure headaches when I

do and then I get so sick I'm bedridden for weeks. This time I have

been ok so far, just the headache. If I ever get where I'm having

better days more often, I want to start physical therapy.

Kathy

> My heart goes out for those that try to judge some else I have

been paralysis from waist down range from the ten beging the worse

and a one beening the best as I start with lyme I was a one and

going down hill from then on, but I still keep trying I stood up for

the first time in fifteen years for a whole 25 seconds. yayayaya

so Kathy keep the faith and you will be ok. Bud

> ps. I am glad I don.t have horse I be riding it .

>

>

>

> Kathy <aiden424@h...> wrote:

> I think that there are different degrees of illness, and that's

> what people don't get. I haven't been able to vacuum in 19 years,

> my husband does it. I have a 6 year old thoroughbred gelding that

> I've never ridden. I brush him and he has a very well conditioned

> tail :) Both my daughters show, one Dressage, and the other Hunter

> Jumper's. My hope and dream is to one day be able to ride again.

> Right now it is a huge stress relief for me to just go to the

stable

> he is kept at and groom him. I don't have to think about being

sick!!

>

> I have more really bad days then good right now, but I just

started

> treatment this spring and after being so sick for more then 19

years

> I'm not sure what the prognosis is. I'm hoping for the best!!

> Kathy

>

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Disability denied me 6 times, starting 1992 when it was not on the approved LIST

for disability. Reason? First denial must be right, Im in year 26 of Lyme,

worked part time to have the hours to qualify, and receive NOTHING from my

government.

/Rodney <rod@...> wrote:

> I don't think that is what I said at all. If someone needs

> disability, I think it is a good thing that we have it.

It took me a couple of years after my dx to apply, Dr pushed me and I am

glad he did. I was in denial and just knew that this wasnt going to be my

life. Good thing is I have good days, which I take advantage of, going to

the store or even better, riding. Of course people see me those days and

ass'ume that this is me 24/7. Have gotten a few rude commentsbut then I

just tell them, well, you should see me the other 90% of the time when

vacuuming one room wears me out.

There are people who take advantage of the system, of any system. Have a

guy up the road who is wheelchair bound and nearly blind. However I have

seen him digging post holes and using heavy equipment on the very days I

have seen him bumbling about in his wheelchair. Go figure.

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Midge,

A hair analysis should run you $70. Find a professional in your area and have it

done right away.

Check also his diet and remove all processed foods and sugars. Make sure he

drinks plenty of water not sodas.

Does he sleep and digest well? Any allergies? How is he performing in social

studies? Is he a loner?

Keep in touch

Disability

Hey Group,

My son has a reading and writing disability. He's in the 5th grade and is

reading/writing at 2nd grade level. He's progressing, but slow. He has no

problem with math. Do you think that this could be from maybe mercury

poisoning (from vaccines), or some type of metal poisoning? People keep

telling me that this is the way he is and live with it, but in the back of

my mind I keep thinking that there's a reason he's like this and that there

s a cure. What do you all think?

Thanks,

Midge

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He may have some excess metals. A lot of kids due. My son is in 6th grade, he

reads and writes well but is in 3rd grade math and 4th grade most other

subjects. He is autistic, but he has some social skills and plays with kids,

just not appropriately. I think is looking at possibility of autism

spectrum disorder. Kids on the spectrum may excel in one or 2 subjects, even to

the point of being savant (genius), but failing in others. If he is socially

awkward or has sensory issues such as toe walking, hand flapping, spinning or

spacing out, holding his ears, intense obsession of one particular thing or

subject, then you might have him assessed by a neurologist to rule out autism or

Asperger's syndrome. Otherwise, I think he just might have problems with

reading and writing and could use a tutor, as well as plenty of sleep and a good

diet. And use the zapper for parasites if you haven't already. Supplement

with DMG, a sublingual tablet that will boost oxygen in the

brain. Give him EFAs this also helps. My grandma gave me cod liver oil once a

month, which may have helped me learn after my brain tumor was removed. I seem

fine now..

fcunsrial@... wrote: Midge,

A hair analysis should run you $70. Find a professional in your area and have it

done right away.

Check also his diet and remove all processed foods and sugars. Make sure he

drinks plenty of water not sodas.

Does he sleep and digest well? Any allergies? How is he performing in social

studies? Is he a loner?

Keep in touch

Disability

Hey Group,

My son has a reading and writing disability. He's in the 5th grade and is

reading/writing at 2nd grade level. He's progressing, but slow. He has no

problem with math. Do you think that this could be from maybe mercury

poisoning (from vaccines), or some type of metal poisoning? People keep

telling me that this is the way he is and live with it, but in the back of

my mind I keep thinking that there's a reason he's like this and that there

s a cure. What do you all think?

Thanks,

Midge

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Midge,

I always have to ask myself, why some children become autistic and some

do not yet they have had the same vaccines. What are the symptoms of

those who are in between these two extremes? This sounds like your son.

We could all take guesses at what your son's problem could be, but it

would be best if you find an ND or doctor who will do heavy metal

testing on your son to see if he has an issue with lead, mercury or

aluminum. Parasites can live in the brain too, so it is best to follow

Dr. 's parasite cleansing program to the letter to see if that

helps, because it never harms. I also think doing the colon and liver

cleanses will help to clean out any toxins he may be dealing with in his

body that could feeding pathogens. And don't rule out candida either,

because it causes severe brain fog.

Diet and food allergies can be a major cause of brain fog as well.

Please be sure he is not eating chemical laden foods made of sugars and

wheat flours. This is the hardest to determine because symptoms are not

always prominent. Good quality protein from clean fish, and organic

fowl, fruits and veggies, should make up his diet. Just watch for

changes based on what he eats.

There is also a product called PCA-Rx by Maxam Labs that people have

used successfully on children for heavy metal cleansing, and they also

have a home test kit. http://ssl.maxamlabs.com/MAXAM_ASP_Home.asp I

have never used their products, but have read in another forum that they

are very effective.

Good luck and keep us posted.

Diane

Midge Dempsey wrote:

>Hey Group,

>

>My son has a reading and writing disability. He's in the 5th grade and is

>reading/writing at 2nd grade level. He's progressing, but slow. He has no

>problem with math. Do you think that this could be from maybe mercury

>poisoning (from vaccines), or some type of metal poisoning? People keep

>telling me that this is the way he is and live with it, but in the back of

>my mind I keep thinking that there's a reason he's like this and that there

>s a cure. What do you all think?

>

>

>

>Thanks,

>

>Midge

>

>

>

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His diet is a problem. Both grandmas give him whatever he wants. All he

wants is processed stuff, I do cut up fresh fruit every day for him. He

sleeps well. I guess he digests well, he goes bm every day. He does have 3

food intolerants: milk, soy, & eggs.

Well, I have to read all his social studies and science to him, and even

then he's slow at 'getting it'. No, he's not a loner, he's very shy though.

Thanks for your great response,

Midge

-- Re: Disability

Midge,

A hair analysis should run you $70. Find a professional in your area and

have it done right away.

Check also his diet and remove all processed foods and sugars. Make sure he

drinks plenty of water not sodas.

Does he sleep and digest well? Any allergies? How is he performing in social

studies? Is he a loner?

Keep in touch

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No, he doesn't toe walk, hand flap, spinning or spaced out, holding his ears

obsessions, none of these types of things.

What is DMG?

We do give him EFA's.

Thank you for a great response!

Midge

-- Re: Disability

He may have some excess metals. A lot of kids due. My son is in 6th grade,

he reads and writes well but is in 3rd grade math and 4th grade most other

subjects. He is autistic, but he has some social skills and plays with kids,

just not appropriately. I think is looking at possibility of autism

spectrum disorder. Kids on the spectrum may excel in one or 2 subjects, even

to the point of being savant (genius), but failing in others. If he is

socially awkward or has sensory issues such as toe walking, hand flapping,

spinning or spacing out, holding his ears, intense obsession of one

particular thing or subject, then you might have him assessed by a

neurologist to rule out autism or Asperger's syndrome. Otherwise, I think

he just might have problems with reading and writing and could use a tutor,

as well as plenty of sleep and a good diet. And use the zapper for

parasites if you haven't already. Supplement with DMG, a sublingual tablet

that will boost oxygen in the

brain. Give him EFAs this also helps. My grandma gave me cod liver oil

once a month, which may have helped me learn after my brain tumor was

removed. I seem fine now..

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One of the parts of the puzzle, is that Tylenol (acetominaphen) depletes

Glutethione from the liver, which is a necessary amino acid that naturally

flushes mercury out. Some parents (with pediatricians suggestions) gave Tylenol

to the kids before going to the clinic for shots, as a pre-emptive protection

from fever and swelling. Now we know that was bad advice. With no glutethione

in the liver, the mercury stuck in the body and circulated around. Mercury will

stay in the blood 6 weeks then attaches to an organ, including brain and small

intestine (where it causes leaky gut and a whole host of problems, which is why

GFCF diets are helping). <gluten & dairy free>

Diane Mackey <dmackey00@...> wrote: Midge,

I always have to ask myself, why some children become autistic and some

do not yet they have had the same vaccines. What are the symptoms of

those who are in between these two extremes? This sounds like your son.

We could all take guesses at what your son's problem could be, but it

would be best if you find an ND or doctor who will do heavy metal

testing on your son to see if he has an issue with lead, mercury or

aluminum. Parasites can live in the brain too, so it is best to follow

Dr. 's parasite cleansing program to the letter to see if that

helps, because it never harms. I also think doing the colon and liver

cleanses will help to clean out any toxins he may be dealing with in his

body that could feeding pathogens. And don't rule out candida either,

because it causes severe brain fog.

Diet and food allergies can be a major cause of brain fog as well.

Please be sure he is not eating chemical laden foods made of sugars and

wheat flours. This is the hardest to determine because symptoms are not

always prominent. Good quality protein from clean fish, and organic

fowl, fruits and veggies, should make up his diet. Just watch for

changes based on what he eats.

There is also a product called PCA-Rx by Maxam Labs that people have

used successfully on children for heavy metal cleansing, and they also

have a home test kit. http://ssl.maxamlabs.com/MAXAM_ASP_Home.asp I

have never used their products, but have read in another forum that they

are very effective.

Good luck and keep us posted.

Diane

Midge Dempsey wrote:

>Hey Group,

>

>My son has a reading and writing disability. He's in the 5th grade and is

>reading/writing at 2nd grade level. He's progressing, but slow. He has no

>problem with math. Do you think that this could be from maybe mercury

>poisoning (from vaccines), or some type of metal poisoning? People keep

>telling me that this is the way he is and live with it, but in the back of

>my mind I keep thinking that there's a reason he's like this and that there

>s a cure. What do you all think?

>

>

>

>Thanks,

>

>Midge

>

>

>

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Dimethylglycine. In Russia they call it Vit B-15 but not here because lack of

it doesn't cause a particular disease. It is found naturally in all cells, but

we are all lacking this adequate amounts of this substance. Since cancer cannot

thrive in oxygen rich environment, I think it may help prevent it. Athletes use

DMG before a race because it reduces or eliminates muscle cramps. There is even

veterinary grade for race horses. It made my son a bit hyper at first, but if

this happens just give him a little folic acid with it. The hyper goes away in

about 2 weeks.

Midge Dempsey <midge130@...> wrote: ,

No, he doesn't toe walk, hand flap, spinning or spaced out, holding his ears

obsessions, none of these types of things.

What is DMG?

We do give him EFA's.

Thank you for a great response!

Midge

-- Re: Disability

He may have some excess metals. A lot of kids due. My son is in 6th grade,

he reads and writes well but is in 3rd grade math and 4th grade most other

subjects. He is autistic, but he has some social skills and plays with kids,

just not appropriately. I think is looking at possibility of autism

spectrum disorder. Kids on the spectrum may excel in one or 2 subjects, even

to the point of being savant (genius), but failing in others. If he is

socially awkward or has sensory issues such as toe walking, hand flapping,

spinning or spacing out, holding his ears, intense obsession of one

particular thing or subject, then you might have him assessed by a

neurologist to rule out autism or Asperger's syndrome. Otherwise, I think

he just might have problems with reading and writing and could use a tutor,

as well as plenty of sleep and a good diet. And use the zapper for

parasites if you haven't already. Supplement with DMG, a sublingual tablet

that will boost oxygen in the

brain. Give him EFAs this also helps. My grandma gave me cod liver oil

once a month, which may have helped me learn after my brain tumor was

removed. I seem fine now..

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Try EFT. It might help and is easy to learn and free if you

download the manual at www.emofree.com.

You can also buy the DVD course or visit a local practioner if you

can find one if you don't understand it. I actually won a free

session as a door prize and then learned it myself. It's not very

hard to do and kids like it too. It's also not time consuming which

is nice.

Sharon

>

> Hey Group,

>

> My son has a reading and writing disability. He's in the 5th grade

and is

> reading/writing at 2nd grade level. He's progressing, but slow. He

has no

> problem with math. Do you think that this could be from maybe

mercury

> poisoning (from vaccines), or some type of metal poisoning? People

keep

> telling me that this is the way he is and live with it, but in the

back of

> my mind I keep thinking that there's a reason he's like this and

that there

> s a cure. What do you all think?

>

>

>

> Thanks,

>

> Midge

>

>

>

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Hi Midge:

I would also recommend heavy metal testing. On my kids, I did hair

tests, blood tests, and urine tests. Here is a link to a ton of

info. on these tests. It jumps right into a discussion about hair

testing but if you read on, it has just about everything you need to

know:

http://home.earthlink.net/~moriam/HOW_TO_hair_test.html#get_hair_test

One of the many areas heavy metal toxicity can affect is visual

processing. If his vision is affected, it may very well explain his

difficulty reading. Here is some info on visual processing:

http://www.autism.org/interview/kaplan.html

My advice concerning the people that say " that's just how he is,

accept it " is to ignore them. Clearly you see a problem and I think

it's right for you to try to help your son. None of my friends or

family supported my efforts to help my autistic children (nor did my

husband for that matter) and now they are recovering tremendously.

If autistic children can recover, kids with more minor ailments are

certainly able to be helped.

I would highly recommend Nordic Naturals cod liver oil (it's been

certified mercury free). It's amazing for the eyes among many other

things.

A child doesnt have to present as autistic to have mercury or other

heavy metal issues. I would definitely get the heavy metal testing

done.

Good luck,

Lorna

>

> Hey Group,

>

> My son has a reading and writing disability. He's in the 5th grade

and is

> reading/writing at 2nd grade level. He's progressing, but slow. He

has no

> problem with math. Do you think that this could be from maybe

mercury

> poisoning (from vaccines), or some type of metal poisoning? People

keep

> telling me that this is the way he is and live with it, but in the

back of

> my mind I keep thinking that there's a reason he's like this and

that there

> s a cure. What do you all think?

>

>

>

> Thanks,

>

> Midge

>

>

>

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Dr Cave was doing mercury tests and finding very little in hair

testing, less than in normal children which at first seemed puzzling. This is

because the mercury was not flushing out like it should but sticking to organs.

When these same children testing negative for mercury began chelation therapy,

then the mercury came out and further testing detected the excretion. So for it

to be excreted, you have to do some chelation. there are natural chelators, like

cilantro (chinese parsley) that work slow but this is safer. Glutethione

supplements in pill form are largely destroyed in the stomach, so transdermal

cream or IV is the best way to get it in the body.

lornabeaverman <rcmlam@...> wrote: Hi Midge:

I would also recommend heavy metal testing. On my kids, I did hair

tests, blood tests, and urine tests. Here is a link to a ton of

info. on these tests. It jumps right into a discussion about hair

testing but if you read on, it has just about everything you need to

know:

http://home.earthlink.net/~moriam/HOW_TO_hair_test.html#get_hair_test

One of the many areas heavy metal toxicity can affect is visual

processing. If his vision is affected, it may very well explain his

difficulty reading. Here is some info on visual processing:

http://www.autism.org/interview/kaplan.html

My advice concerning the people that say " that's just how he is,

accept it " is to ignore them. Clearly you see a problem and I think

it's right for you to try to help your son. None of my friends or

family supported my efforts to help my autistic children (nor did my

husband for that matter) and now they are recovering tremendously.

If autistic children can recover, kids with more minor ailments are

certainly able to be helped.

I would highly recommend Nordic Naturals cod liver oil (it's been

certified mercury free). It's amazing for the eyes among many other

things.

A child doesnt have to present as autistic to have mercury or other

heavy metal issues. I would definitely get the heavy metal testing

done.

Good luck,

Lorna

>

> Hey Group,

>

> My son has a reading and writing disability. He's in the 5th grade

and is

> reading/writing at 2nd grade level. He's progressing, but slow. He

has no

> problem with math. Do you think that this could be from maybe

mercury

> poisoning (from vaccines), or some type of metal poisoning? People

keep

> telling me that this is the way he is and live with it, but in the

back of

> my mind I keep thinking that there's a reason he's like this and

that there

> s a cure. What do you all think?

>

>

>

> Thanks,

>

> Midge

>

>

>

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> Dr Cave was doing mercury tests and finding very little in

hair testing, less than in normal children which at first seemed

puzzling. This is because the mercury was not flushing out like it

should but sticking to organs.

>>>All of this is explained thoroughly in the link I provided Midge.

Thanks,

Lorna

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Hi Midge:

I have some ideas! one work on fonics with him every day. If he can learn to

read, even if he does it slowly, he will be fine. I have helped some children

with reading and find that persisting on a daily basis pays off! You need

patience or a tutor, but fonics is the key! Get him tested for learning

disabilities Check into neurofeedback they can tell which part of the brain is

affected with a brainmap . See if it is the one that controls language or

visual perseption. You could do a heavy metal test. Make sure he eats vegies

and fruit. Thank God, he is ok with math and find something that he is pretty

good at and focus on that too.

Good luck!

linda

Midge Dempsey <midge130@...> wrote:

Hey Group,

My son has a reading and writing disability. He's in the 5th grade and is

reading/writing at 2nd grade level. He's progressing, but slow. He has no

problem with math. Do you think that this could be from maybe mercury

poisoning (from vaccines), or some type of metal poisoning? People keep

telling me that this is the way he is and live with it, but in the back of

my mind I keep thinking that there's a reason he's like this and that there

s a cure. What do you all think?

Thanks,

Midge

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Hi ,

Gosh, I know this feeling. I think we all do. Sometimes the extent

of our illness becomes really overwhelming when we consider our

former life and how healthy we were. It's completely normal to go

through these feelings and actually, to mourn what we lost.

But please don't feel that disability is a step in the wrong

direction. If it is God's will that you be on it, then you will

have peace about it. If not, then you will feel totally like you

are struggling against a brick wall, and it won't be in His plan for

you.

Keep in mind that getting disability is a very long process, and I

think you have the best chance if you hire an attorney. There are

several women here who have been down that road that can help

you...the ones that I can think of are Colleen, Kacey, and another

girl Theresa. I can provide you email addresses if you want to

correspond with them personally. They may be able to help you

navigate those waters.

But also continue to trust and believe in your body's ability to

heal. I've heard some incredible miracle stories even this week of

people given up as hopeless yet who have defied all odds and have

their life back. All it takes is the one thing that sets them on the

right path. You just have to find what that one thing is. Our

group is a positive step in the right direction, but I know that it

is God who does all the rest. Trust Him to lead you to the right

pathway and continue walking in faith. Don't give up!

I will fast and pray for you on Monday too. I will be praying for

several of our women here who I know are in need of a special touch

of God's mercy and lovingkindness.

Love,

Patty

>

> Good day Ladies,

>

>

> I am feeling quite down today. Yesterday, I went to my doctor

for some more LLLT treatments. He hit just about every meridian.

He spent a good hour zapping me with his laser pen. Anyway, he

asked me if I ever considered going on disability due to the fact I

am about 30% the person I used to be. He is not sure if I will ever

regain my stength. I am frustrated also. I still cannot write or

type much without extreme pain. I am also disappointed that my

nurse aide certification is expireing next month. I cannot work the

8 hour shift required to keep it active. I am finding the only job

I am trained to do, I cant anymore. I can not yet go back to my

classes due to my inability to write, plus the fatigue is

horrendous. I talked it over with my husband, and he wants me to

check into disability. I don't want to, how can I have hope for a

full recovery if I am on disability. I even try not to use my

handicap parking permit unless it is a bad day. Plus I think my

> hubby makes too much money for me to qualify. Just thinking

about looking into disability seems like way too much work for me.

I get tired thinking about it. What is a girl to do? I still plan

on starting my fast on Monday. My hubby is going to do it with me.

>

> L

>

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You'll be doing better than me if you can fast on your child's

birthday!

I always arranged my fasts around holidays or celebrations because I

knew I would be celebrating along with everyone else. Especially

the kids....I love making their day fun and that always includes fun

foods. I allow indulgences for those kinds of things! (Don't be

too hard on yourself, but I totally understand your dedication to

doing the right thing for your health. After all, when we indulge

we are only hurting ourselves.)

I will support you in your every effort to feel better.

As far as the psyllium husks go for hunger, I have never used them.

I found that my hunger went away pretty quickly, and so I was never

bothered by that. I think there are enough controversial things out

there regarding fasting that we cannot know for sure what's best for

everyone....technically, a water-only fast should probably remain

that.

I think I would be more inclined to use the psyllium husks with a

juice fast than with a water only fast. The true benefit from water

only fasting is in allowing your digestive system to take a complete

rest, and for your body to move into the protein sparing state. You

don't do that on a juice fast. However, it's true that there is no

nutritional value to psyllium. It's just a bulking agent and will

help sweep the colon clean. The only thing I would be concerned

about with psyllium is whether or not it would produce discomfort in

the colon during a water only fast, as some people experience cramps

or abdominal pain, depending on the state of their colon's health.

You may also consider a water only fast for a few days, and then

move into a juice fast and add the psyllium husks then.

Please let me know what you do!

Oh, and the sauna....yes, you can use a sauna during a fast. I do

anyway. But I have heard some people say that it is too strenuous

of a detox doing that....and your need for water will be greatly

increased. I will tell you that early in my illness, I had to take

the sauna use very slowly, so you may want to just do a gentle sauna

and not overdo it.

Hope that helps...have a very nice weekend and enjoy your daughter's

birthday celebration!

Love,

Patty

> >

> > Good day Ladies,

> >

> >

> > I am feeling quite down today. Yesterday, I went to my doctor

> for some more LLLT treatments. He hit just about every meridian.

> He spent a good hour zapping me with his laser pen. Anyway, he

> asked me if I ever considered going on disability due to the fact

I

> am about 30% the person I used to be. He is not sure if I will

ever

> regain my stength. I am frustrated also. I still cannot write or

> type much without extreme pain. I am also disappointed that my

> nurse aide certification is expireing next month. I cannot work

the

> 8 hour shift required to keep it active. I am finding the only

job

> I am trained to do, I cant anymore. I can not yet go back to my

> classes due to my inability to write, plus the fatigue is

> horrendous. I talked it over with my husband, and he wants me to

> check into disability. I don't want to, how can I have hope for a

> full recovery if I am on disability. I even try not to use my

> handicap parking permit unless it is a bad day. Plus I think my

> > hubby makes too much money for me to qualify. Just thinking

> about looking into disability seems like way too much work for

me.

> I get tired thinking about it. What is a girl to do? I still

plan

> on starting my fast on Monday. My hubby is going to do it with

me.

> >

> > L

> >

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> Opinions expressed are NOT meant to take the place of advice given

by licensed health care professionals. Consult your physician or

licensed health care professional before commencing any medical

treatment.

>

> " Do not let either the medical authorities or the politicians

mislead you. Find out what the facts are, and make your own

decisions about how to live a happy life and how to work for a

better world. " - Linus ing, two-time Nobel Prize Winner (1954,

Chemistry; 1963, Peace)

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I'm so sorry you are feeling so down. You know, maybe disability

would give you the time you need to take care of yourself. I know

it can be frustrating to keep trying things that don't seem to work,

but I really believe it takes time and commitment, and a lot of

prayer. God knows why you are going through this terrible time, and

he is giving you just what you need - a great husband, and now maybe

time on your hands to start a detox program. Maybe you won't ever

be 100 percent again, but I think you will get so much better. I am

six months post surgery, and just this week is my first real

breakthrough in my health. I was so upset when I lost my main

client last summer, but it turns out it was right before surgery,

and it gave me the time I needed to recover and do my juicing twice

a day, and now the sauna. Recently I have been so worried, as I

always am at tax time because I didn't make enough estimated

payments, that we were going to be owe so much money for taxes (as

usual), but it turns out that we hardly owe anything, and it

actually is better that I didn't work as much right now. God is

good, and is giving me the time I need to heal.

Hugs to you,

Cherie

>

> Good day Ladies,

>

>

> I am feeling quite down today. Yesterday, I went to my doctor

for some more LLLT treatments. He hit just about every meridian.

He spent a good hour zapping me with his laser pen. Anyway, he

asked me if I ever considered going on disability due to the fact I

am about 30% the person I used to be. He is not sure if I will ever

regain my stength. I am frustrated also. I still cannot write or

type much without extreme pain. I am also disappointed that my

nurse aide certification is expireing next month. I cannot work the

8 hour shift required to keep it active. I am finding the only job

I am trained to do, I cant anymore. I can not yet go back to my

classes due to my inability to write, plus the fatigue is

horrendous. I talked it over with my husband, and he wants me to

check into disability. I don't want to, how can I have hope for a

full recovery if I am on disability. I even try not to use my

handicap parking permit unless it is a bad day. Plus I think my

> hubby makes too much money for me to qualify. Just thinking

about looking into disability seems like way too much work for me.

I get tired thinking about it. What is a girl to do? I still plan

on starting my fast on Monday. My hubby is going to do it with me.

>

> L

>

> __________________________________________________

>

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,

It usually takes a considerable amount of time to

qualify for disability . . . Your chances of getting

it are much better if you use an attorney who

specializes in SSDI claims.

That said, I'd bet that, by the time you are approved,

you will be feeling well enough to work. . . However,

if you're not, at least you'll be getting some income.

What I fear, when women file a law suit, or claim

disability, is that they tend to put too much energy

into their disability rather than on getting better.

From what I've seen of you, I don't think you will . .

.. but I feel I need to say that.

I heard from one of our inactive members tonight . . .

Her very high ANA is now normal . . . and her Lupus

diagnosis is GONE! . . . She's been explanted just

over a year (if I remember correctly). She was in

horrible condition before being explanted - and slow

to get better. But she's working part time now and

doing well! . . .

I think you will too!

Hugs and prayers,

Rogene

--- Lamse <wannabe_proverbs31@...>

wrote:

> Good day Ladies,

>

>

> I am feeling quite down today. Yesterday, I went

> to my doctor for some more LLLT treatments. He hit

> just about every meridian. He spent a good hour

> zapping me with his laser pen. Anyway, he asked me

> if I ever considered going on disability due to the

> fact I am about 30% the person I used to be. He is

> not sure if I will ever regain my stength. I am

> frustrated also. I still cannot write or type much

> without extreme pain. I am also disappointed that

> my nurse aide certification is expireing next month.

> I cannot work the 8 hour shift required to keep it

> active. I am finding the only job I am trained to

> do, I cant anymore. I can not yet go back to my

> classes due to my inability to write, plus the

> fatigue is horrendous. I talked it over with my

> husband, and he wants me to check into disability.

> I don't want to, how can I have hope for a full

> recovery if I am on disability. I even try not to

> use my handicap parking permit unless it is a bad

> day. Plus I think my

> hubby makes too much money for me to qualify. Just

> thinking about looking into disability seems like

> way too much work for me. I get tired thinking

> about it. What is a girl to do? I still plan on

> starting my fast on Monday. My hubby is going to do

> it with me.

>

> L

>

> __________________________________________________

>

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--- Yay! I totally agree with Rogene's attitude re: let's focus on

getting better, not the disability. I had some advice recently from

a lawyer at a Women's Outreach Centre, and she said I should apply

for AISH - which is Canada's disability through Social Services. If

there comes a time I cannot work, I will. As for now, God is seeing

me through...day by day. You know the Footprints poem? Well, there

is certainly only one set of footprints in my life lately, and God is

carrying me on his shoulders (like a little kid!:) Without my faith,

I would be in the hospital by now, or dead. Thank God and thank you

ladies for the wonderful, loving support and education...as I learned

the word education comes from the Greek - educara - which means " from

the heart " .

Lots of love, hugs & butterfly kisses, (you know, the eyelash

tickling kind?? :^)

Sunny :)

In , Rogene S <saxony01@...> wrote:

>

> ,

>

> It usually takes a considerable amount of time to

> qualify for disability . . . Your chances of getting

> it are much better if you use an attorney who

> specializes in SSDI claims.

>

> That said, I'd bet that, by the time you are approved,

> you will be feeling well enough to work. . . However,

> if you're not, at least you'll be getting some income.

>

> What I fear, when women file a law suit, or claim

> disability, is that they tend to put too much energy

> into their disability rather than on getting better.

> From what I've seen of you, I don't think you will . .

> . but I feel I need to say that.

>

> I heard from one of our inactive members tonight . . .

> Her very high ANA is now normal . . . and her Lupus

> diagnosis is GONE! . . . She's been explanted just

> over a year (if I remember correctly). She was in

> horrible condition before being explanted - and slow

> to get better. But she's working part time now and

> doing well! . . .

>

> I think you will too!

>

> Hugs and prayers,

>

> Rogene

>

>

> --- Lamse <wannabe_proverbs31@...>

> wrote:

>

> > Good day Ladies,

> >

> >

> > I am feeling quite down today. Yesterday, I went

> > to my doctor for some more LLLT treatments. He hit

> > just about every meridian. He spent a good hour

> > zapping me with his laser pen. Anyway, he asked me

> > if I ever considered going on disability due to the

> > fact I am about 30% the person I used to be. He is

> > not sure if I will ever regain my stength. I am

> > frustrated also. I still cannot write or type much

> > without extreme pain. I am also disappointed that

> > my nurse aide certification is expireing next month.

> > I cannot work the 8 hour shift required to keep it

> > active. I am finding the only job I am trained to

> > do, I cant anymore. I can not yet go back to my

> > classes due to my inability to write, plus the

> > fatigue is horrendous. I talked it over with my

> > husband, and he wants me to check into disability.

> > I don't want to, how can I have hope for a full

> > recovery if I am on disability. I even try not to

> > use my handicap parking permit unless it is a bad

> > day. Plus I think my

> > hubby makes too much money for me to qualify. Just

> > thinking about looking into disability seems like

> > way too much work for me. I get tired thinking

> > about it. What is a girl to do? I still plan on

> > starting my fast on Monday. My hubby is going to do

> > it with me.

> >

> > L

> >

> > __________________________________________________

> >

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,

I'm sorry you're feeling down. I can certainly relate, and I know

you were hit quite hard with this illness, much harder than I was.

I just want to give you hope of recovery, though, because there have

been so many women who have gotten better in time. You are doing

all the right things, so please don't give up - and I know your

doctor has been so helpful to you, but sometimes they say things

that carry so much weight that we take it totally to heart. I don't

think going on disability would defeat what you're trying to do, it

would just give you some additional income which might help with the

stress, and it might help to pay for some of the products that you

need to use. You have very strong faith and I know your faith will

get you through, but it's being tested right now. If I remember

correctly, some of your symptoms were easing up, but I know how

defeated you must feel because you can't write, and can't attend

classes. Going to school is one of the things that helped get me

through the last year, and it sounds like you are like me - goal

oriented, trying to improve yourself, and it's really hard to do

when your health isn't cooperating. You can still keep those goals,

but categorize them as a future goal. Your current goal can be to

continue taking good care of your body, and feeding your spiritual

soul as well. I think if you don't let go of your dream to finish

school, it will help you through these difficult times. If you go

on disability, it is a stepping stone, it is not a sign of giving up

on your dream.

Love,

Sis

>

> Good day Ladies,

>

>

> I am feeling quite down today. Yesterday, I went to my doctor

for some more LLLT treatments. He hit just about every meridian.

He spent a good hour zapping me with his laser pen. Anyway, he

asked me if I ever considered going on disability due to the fact I

am about 30% the person I used to be. He is not sure if I will ever

regain my stength. I am frustrated also. I still cannot write or

type much without extreme pain. I am also disappointed that my

nurse aide certification is expireing next month. I cannot work the

8 hour shift required to keep it active. I am finding the only job

I am trained to do, I cant anymore. I can not yet go back to my

classes due to my inability to write, plus the fatigue is

horrendous. I talked it over with my husband, and he wants me to

check into disability. I don't want to, how can I have hope for a

full recovery if I am on disability. I even try not to use my

handicap parking permit unless it is a bad day. Plus I think my

> hubby makes too much money for me to qualify. Just thinking

about looking into disability seems like way too much work for me.

I get tired thinking about it. What is a girl to do? I still plan

on starting my fast on Monday. My hubby is going to do it with me.

>

> L

>

> __________________________________________________

>

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Gretchen,

I went to the local office and filed for a reconsideration. She said another

examiner would look at it. I don't think the first one done things right. I had

called her and reported a change in my

medication and an upcoming surgery. She said she would update my file. Today

when another person looked at it the information was not in it. I went over to

my Congressman's office and filled out some papers. Hopefully, that will help. I

have been without an

income for a while now and will loose my health insurance this month. It looks

grim here right now. Everyone think good thoughts for me and my family.

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