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--- URTHYROID@... wrote:

> In a message dated 3/19/2001 10:44:11 PM Eastern

> Standard Time,

> jcferguson99@... writes:

>

> << It isn't all that hard to figure out. Big

> employers

> will drop medical people who aren't working with

> them

> and there goes the money ! Do they really want us

> to

> be well ? Or is it that it is more lucrative to

> continue to trat us ? Gosh am I be synical ? >>

> I am a researcher, writer, and consultant and I can

> tell you that you are not

> synical. There is too much money in illness. Some

> molds were developed as

> biological weapons, as you probably know and since

> they were " developed " , it

> is planned.

>

And we no doubt are the guina pigs, who will try the

new drugs for the manufactures too, Kind of reminds

you of the days of the ole lsd experiments,(oops they

forgot to tell people they were giving it to them) Or

the people who purposely recieved TB ! and the sudden

influx of heroin on the street , the development of

methadone (oh how happy that made the companies)but

deliberately hide the facts that people are dying from

these molds ? Can't do it ! Like Agent Orange , they

will admit the problem after the majority affected are

dead!!!Sorry but I am pretty angry too at all the hush

hush.

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ALL: The natural sciences are megayears ahead of the medical science field

in understanding the deadly side of indoor environmental fungi

contamination. It is really intriguing when one realizes that Veterinary

Medicine has been alert to, and treating animals for years with conditions

similar to humans due to fungi exposures. Agricultural science has been

alert to and treating fungi exposures to agricultural products for years,

while doctors from prominent medical schools are simply brushing such

exposure off as allergy-related conditions. Many medical physicians are

really ignorant (not stupid) because this (Human Pathology; an Introduction)

was never taught in medical school? Give me a break! While people are

dying and doctors are denying... and somewhere someone out there folks who

know the reasons why are lying and the public isn't buying!!! And, for lack

of better medical terminology, it is called " Junk Science " offered through

media reporting. It is time for the medical profession, the governing body

overseeing research and medical education to take a vacation from their

silver lined clouds- pick up the science journals that are screaming for

them to piece it all together into organized and documented medical science

journaling and to cut the ego-trips into the universe and beyond and get

back to helping those who suffer medically. This is not a total

condemnation of the medical field, just a medical awakening call.

Environmental fungi contamination in certain human types, many of the

mid-age to elderly group, immuno-suppressed or compromised, immune

depressed, or those with autoimmune diseases or even in rare cases

immunocompetent cases can be extremely dangerous and deadly. I am getting

down on medicine, and I do not really mean to... medicine today is the

finest ever in history and getting better daily. However, I am seeing

people suffering and dying of environmental fungal caused/related ailments

and as a former Vietnam combat medic it makes me angry and frustrated that

this is so apparent and evident, yet it is as if human beings are now

nothing compared to economy, power, and prestige. Doctors work extremely

hard and study long hours to understand and practice medicine, as to nurses

and others in the medical field of survice worldwide. I honor and respect

every doctor, even if I am angry or upset with their ignorance for my

professional field Environmental Health Research and Education. But, we are

all humans (not Gods) and we are all in this process called health with a

primary purpose to serve God (as God is understood by all faiths) with all

our hearts, power, and might! It is time we get back to earth and work

toward the good of all humans and environmental fungi contamination is (and

always has been) our most dangerous enemy, even greater than bacilli,

viruses, and other pathogenic microorganisms. The cell of dangerous

life-threatening fungi is leans far more toward that of a human cell than a

plant cell, and since it gives off mycotoxin (various types at a time in

some instances when at war with other fungal species in the environment) it

is much stronger than that of its human counterparts (hosts) and much older

ecologically. If you eat a poisonous mushroom and your body dies in rapid

shutdown, you would say that mushroom (mold species) killes and is

destructive to man. Why is it so hard for the medical profession and

government or anyone else for that matter to understand that a fungal

species with so much power does not have to kill fast. Also, that the human

body is the perfect nutrient and climatic source for " opportunistic " flora

(microorganisms) to live and eat in until an enemy either intrudes (e.g.,

Stachybotrys) or something disturbs the metabolic process enough to disturb

flora (esp., fungi) into their opportunistic state. We need doctors who are

world leaders and willing to stand up and at least check me out to see if I

am lying or not! I would be very glad to meet this or any challenge, seeing

that I don't use my personal beliefs in writing my materials but

well-researched natural science at various levels involving the Decade of

the Brain, The Human Genome Project, the studies of HIV/AIDS and Cancers

(the human immune system), Probiotics and Environmental Sciences, etc. Over

15 years writing and research experience in advanced technology and science.

Thank you. Doug Haney (Author: " Toxic Mold! Toxic Enemy! " and latest

article: " The Deadly Side of Fungal Exposure " ) (916) 972-7783 or

Medcorp68@...

>From: URTHYROID@...

>Reply-

>

>Subject: Re: [] please help!

>Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 07:48:16 EST

>

>In a message dated 3/19/2001 10:44:11 PM Eastern Standard Time,

>jcferguson99@... writes:

>

><< It isn't all that hard to figure out. Big employers

> will drop medical people who aren't working with them

> and there goes the money ! Do they really want us to

> be well ? Or is it that it is more lucrative to

> continue to trat us ? Gosh am I be synical ? >>

>I am a researcher, writer, and consultant and I can tell you that you are

>not

>synical. There is too much money in illness. Some molds were developed as

>biological weapons, as you probably know and since they were " developed " ,

>it

>is planned.

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----- Original Message -----

From: " Pam (by way of ilena rose) " <pamoo7@...>

Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2001 11:16 AM

Subject: Please Help!

> My beautiful young 21 year old niece told me today she has scheduled

implant

> (saline) surg. this Friday. I talked to her about how this was a very bad

> idea, but she claims to have read up on them and that they are not going

to

> last forever, and if they put them under the muscle they will feel

natural!

> PLEASE, ladies, if you have those horriable implants, please write to her

> and let her know how wrong this information is. Her email address is

> crickettrector@... I told her I would be having some email sent

to

> her so do not worry, you will not be intruding. This can not wait!!!!

> THANKS!

>

>

>

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I wrote to this young lady hopeful she will listen. I hope you too will try

to influence her decision. Please, lets try to help someone before they

make the biggest mistake.

----- Original Message -----

From: " Patty " <fdp@...>

< >

Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2001 8:36 PM

Subject: Fw: Please Help!

>

> ----- Original Message -----

> From: " Pam (by way of ilena rose) " <pamoo7@...>

> Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2001 11:16 AM

> Subject: Please Help!

>

>

> > My beautiful young 21 year old niece told me today she has scheduled

> implant

> > (saline) surg. this Friday. I talked to her about how this was a very

bad

> > idea, but she claims to have read up on them and that they are not going

> to

> > last forever, and if they put them under the muscle they will feel

> natural!

> > PLEASE, ladies, if you have those horriable implants, please write to

her

> > and let her know how wrong this information is. Her email address is

> > crickettrector@... I told her I would be having some email sent

> to

> > her so do not worry, you will not be intruding. This can not wait!!!!

> > THANKS!

> >

> >

> >

>

>

>

>

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I wrote to her and told her all the stuff I could in the nicest way

possible, hoep she changes her mind, who would want to get mixed up

with any of this stuff.

In @y..., " Charlene Pannarale " <criviezzi@h...> wrote:

> I wrote to this young lady hopeful she will listen. I hope you too

will try

> to influence her decision. Please, lets try to help someone before

they

> make the biggest mistake.

> ----- Original Message -----

> From: " Patty " <fdp@l...>

> < @y...>

> Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2001 8:36 PM

> Subject: Fw: Please Help!

>

>

> >

> > ----- Original Message -----

> > From: " Pam (by way of ilena rose) " <pamoo7@h...>

> > Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2001 11:16 AM

> > Subject: Please Help!

> >

> >

> > > My beautiful young 21 year old niece told me today she has

scheduled

> > implant

> > > (saline) surg. this Friday. I talked to her about how this was

a very

> bad

> > > idea, but she claims to have read up on them and that they are

not going

> > to

> > > last forever, and if they put them under the muscle they will

feel

> > natural!

> > > PLEASE, ladies, if you have those horriable implants, please

write to

> her

> > > and let her know how wrong this information is. Her email

address is

> > > crickettrector@h... I told her I would be having some email

sent

> > to

> > > her so do not worry, you will not be intruding. This can not

wait!!!!

> > > THANKS!

> > >

> > >

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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I was told 10 yrs. ago that I had RA. And they suspected lupus as

well. I had a positive and a negative lupus test. Now I have moved

to Indianapolis,Indiana thinking I might be able to find a doctor

who could pinpoint what is wrong with me. Today I went to a

specialist and she says she is not sure if I have RA, because my RA

factor runs between 167 and 304. She couldn't find the inflamation

she says. But I have been hurting severely lately. So she is doing

some more tests and checking for hepitis c which I have had this

test before also. And it was negative. She says the tests that came

back positive should have made my ANA test come back positive and it

didn't. It came back negative. I have most of the lupus symtoms and

I know I have RA. I hurt to bad and I swell. I just want someone to

find out what it is and help me, from hurting and being so tired! If

anyone has any information, please let me know. Thank you

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The norm for RF (Rheumatoid Factor) is 14 and under. So you definitely have something going on that shouldn't be...but you know that already! Now to get the doc to find it. The RF doesn't necessarily mean you have RA. Other conditions can have an elevated RF result. If the pain and swelling is mainly in joints perhaps they can xray to see what, if any, damage has been done.

My ANA and sed tests were negative/normal and my RF was only slightly elevated. But the xrays sure show the story.

Hugs,

Jacy

~Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for you are crunchy and taste good with ketchup.

-----Original Message-----From: ylovchan [mailto:ylovchan@...]Sent: Tuesday, June 01, 2004 20:35Rheumatoid Arthritis Subject: Please help!I was told 10 yrs. ago that I had RA. And they suspected lupus as well. I had a positive and a negative lupus test. Now I have moved to Indianapolis,Indiana thinking I might be able to find a doctor who could pinpoint what is wrong with me. Today I went to a specialist and she says she is not sure if I have RA, because my RA factor runs between 167 and 304. She couldn't find the inflamation she says. But I have been hurting severely lately. So she is doing some more tests and checking for hepitis c which I have had this test before also. And it was negative. She says the tests that came back positive should have made my ANA test come back positive and it didn't. It came back negative. I have most of the lupus symtoms and I know I have RA. I hurt to bad and I swell. I just want someone to find out what it is and help me, from hurting and being so tired! If anyone has any information, please let me know. Thank you

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The diagnosis is not as important as the treatment. If you are not being

treated with a DMARD I suggest that you get to another rheumatologist. No labs

or combination of labs can confirm or deny RA or Lupus. While awaiting a

positive diagnosis you should be treated for something and RA is the most likely

thing with Lupus being close behind. Fortunately the same treatments can work

for both diseases. Please get some treatment, and if that requires a change in

doctors please do so. God bless.

>

> From: " ylovchan " <ylovchan@...>

> Date: 2004/06/02 Wed AM 02:34:58 GMT

> Rheumatoid Arthritis

> Subject: Please help!

>

>

I was told 10 yrs. ago that I had RA. And they suspected lupus as

well. I had a positive and a negative lupus test. Now I have moved

to Indianapolis,Indiana thinking I might be able to find a doctor

who could pinpoint what is wrong with me. Today I went to a

specialist and she says she is not sure if I have RA, because my RA

factor runs between 167 and 304. She couldn't find the inflamation

she says. But I have been hurting severely lately. So she is doing

some more tests and checking for hepitis c which I have had this

test before also. And it was negative. She says the tests that came

back positive should have made my ANA test come back positive and it

didn't. It came back negative. I have most of the lupus symtoms and

I know I have RA. I hurt to bad and I swell. I just want someone to

find out what it is and help me, from hurting and being so tired! If

anyone has any information, please let me know. Thank you

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