Re: Please help- I just can't stop my night-time eating

[Guest guest]

All I can say is..... ME TOO!! But I got beyond evenings... I get up in the

middle of the night and eat.

Here's the only thing that has helped me.... Relaxed Intent. I don't know the

episode numbers... but spends a few episodes on it. Basically... for

me.... I say what " I WANT " instead of " I HAVE to stop " or I CAN'T eat anymore " .

That always sends me into a tizie of a binge!

In the evening, I take a deep breath and say I want to be relaxed and calm

around food. I want to wake up in the morning feeling good and proud of my

choices. I want these things..... but if I don't do them, that's ok too. I

will accept myself whatever happens. I forgive myself before hand. says

the key to relaxed intent is acceptance.

It usually works, but it takes concentration and a little meditation. But if I'm

fatigued or just don't take the time to go through the routine, then it doesn't

work.

Good luck!

Patti

>

> I haven't posted for a while, but I've been following you all. Now I really

need you guys again... I've had ups and downs recently, but despite some good

days, I'm feeling such an overwhelming hopelessness right now, and I know I

still can't be working with the right tools. So ANY

suggestions/advice/experiences that you may have..I'd be so grateful.

>

> It's still the evening that's killing me. I never binge during the day, but

then comes the night and I have this huge need to " indulge " / " treat myself " and

all that... It's like I'm saving myself all day for the wonderful tastes and

just eating to fill myself up at night. It's lovely, but also disgusting. And of

course I know from listening to IOWL over and over that this isn't really a

treat at all, but just an incredibly self-destructive habit that makes me feel

awful the next day (and when I go to bed, all stressed thinking about the

shocking number of calories I've eaten). Yet I can't get it into my head, and I

can't stop. I just don't know what to do. I realise I have a lot of work to do,

but WHAT? How? Why can't I stop buying sweets? Every evening I swear I'll never

eat another cookie again, and then the next I still buy a small package. Or

something else. And every night I think that I am feeling balanced, that I will

manage just a small piece of that chocolate just to satisfy the craving, but

then all of a sudden I've eaten it all. And so it goes. And I feel worse and

worse.

>

> This inability to overcome the bingeing really is taking its toll now. I feel

completely horrible, but it can't be just because of a lack of self-control.

Firstly, because I have loads of self-control in my life otherwise. I'm pretty

good at doing whatever I set my mind to do. But more importantly, because I know

that's not what it's about. I realise there must be inner conflict, a positive

intent and so on. I love Renées show, and it all rings incredibly true to me.

But despite listening to the show over and over, I can't stop. I'm really

reaching my limit, and I need your help so badly. I've cried and panicked about

this too many times now. If you have any tips or any advice- anything that has

worked for you etc- please please post them here.

>

> Thank you all for being such a wonderful group.

>

> xxx

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Madie;

Old advice. What are you eating? When are you eating? Are you eating enough

during the day or do you restrict all day and then get so hungry at night

that you can't help yourself? Are you eating enough protein? Are you eating

enough complex carbs that are releasing slowly into your system, or are you

flooding that poor system with simple carbs like sugar - you know, the

" whites " ?

It's not very sexy, but eating breakfast is the number one aid to cut down

on the night time binging. Eating throughout the day so that you never get

so hungry that you can't help yourself later in the day and evening. Making

sure you are getting enough low fat protein and complex carbs to keep your

insulin and glucose levels just that - level. You absolutely can't fight

your hunger mechanism but you can adjust it, believe it or not, thru what

and when you eat.

It won't happen overnight, but if you work with your body instead of against

it things will change.

A couple of great books to read are " Breaking the Food Seduction " by Dr.

Neal Barnard and " Skinny Chics Don't Eat Salad " by Avanti. Dr.

Barnard promotes vegetarian and vegan diets and doesn't, but

whether you are willing to go the vegetarian route or not both of these

books will give you all the science you need to start again and get your

appetite and metabolism back on track.

I wish you the best

Wynn

Please help- I just can't stop my night-time

eating

I haven't posted for a while, but I've been following you all. Now I really

need you guys again... I've had ups and downs recently, but despite some

good days, I'm feeling such an overwhelming hopelessness right now, and I

know I still can't be working with the right tools. So ANY

suggestions/advice/experiences that you may have..I'd be so grateful.

It's still the evening that's killing me. I never binge during the day, but

then comes the night and I have this huge need to " indulge " / " treat myself "

and all that... It's like I'm saving myself all day for the wonderful tastes

and just eating to fill myself up at night. It's lovely, but also

disgusting. And of course I know from listening to IOWL over and over that

this isn't really a treat at all, but just an incredibly self-destructive

habit that makes me feel awful the next day (and when I go to bed, all

stressed thinking about the shocking number of calories I've eaten). Yet I

can't get it into my head, and I can't stop. I just don't know what to do. I

realise I have a lot of work to do, but WHAT? How? Why can't I stop buying

sweets? Every evening I swear I'll never eat another cookie again, and then

the next I still buy a small package. Or something else. And every night I

think that I am feeling balanced, that I will manage just a small piece of

that chocolate just to satisfy the craving, but then all of a sudden I've

eaten it all. And so it goes. And I feel worse and worse.

This inability to overcome the bingeing really is taking its toll now. I

feel completely horrible, but it can't be just because of a lack of

self-control. Firstly, because I have loads of self-control in my life

otherwise. I'm pretty good at doing whatever I set my mind to do. But more

importantly, because I know that's not what it's about. I realise there must

be inner conflict, a positive intent and so on. I love Renées show, and it

all rings incredibly true to me. But despite listening to the show over and

over, I can't stop. I'm really reaching my limit, and I need your help so

badly. I've cried and panicked about this too many times now. If you have

any tips or any advice- anything that has worked for you etc- please please

post them here.

Thank you all for being such a wonderful group.

xxx

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Hi Wynn :-). GREAT advice!

 

Hi Madie..... I can really relate to how you're feeling. I can feel your

frustration in your letter and really understand where you're coming from. I

think that after a long day of being out in society (work, kids, school, taking

care of parents...whatever your responsibilities are!) we AT LAST arrive at home

and can maybe put our feet up/let our hair done for a few hours and what better

way to relax and treat ourselves than with food?? We're hungry anyway and so so

tired and heck tomorrow's going to be another long day...I know..I know... The

cookies and ice-cream....Pure luxury.

 

BUT... (always a but....)

 

How does it make you feel over time??  Not very good from what you've written.

You said you go to bed feeling overfull, guilty and just plain miserable. (Been

there way too many times and still struggle with the problem most days of the

week).

 

My suggestion is to find what else makes you feel really good. I LOVE juicing...

I throw carrots and lettuce and cabbage and cucumber etc together with an apple,

orange or some other fruit and make a super healthy juice. Add ice cubes

and  slowly savor. It makes me feel healthy and virtuous and fills me up too.

If you can't bother cleaning and chopping, buy them ready to go at the

supermarket. Or make a smoothie with a fruit or two and add some spinach and/or

a carrot and some yogurt.

 

Another suggestion is to take a nice long bath. Take  a cup of hot milk to sip

while you relax..add some chocolate to the milk or make yourself a nice crunchy

platter of veggies and fruits.

 

Also, make sure that you have sometime nice for dinner when you get home. If

possible cook it the day before....Or, Maybe writing down exactly what you are

going to eat for the day will help you control your nighttime snacking? (I can

have my apple, a piece of cheese, 10 almonds and a small yogurt tonite. Ummmm...

that's alot!)

 

DO NOT buy those packets of cookies on your way home. If they're not in the

house, you can't eat them! Are you afraid maybe that you won't have them in the

house when a craving hits?? I know I was. But once you know they're not there,

you just get on with it. You can always promise yourself to buy a packet

(individual sizes) of cookies ON THE WAY to work the next morning and eat them

for a snack at your lunch break.

 

I too am struggling on an everyday basis to find a balance. It is still not easy

as says so I have still not found my balance. To be honest since I really

really wanted sth sweet at night I have bought individually wrapped ice creams

and I make room in my diet to eat one everynight. Mind you, not the tasteless

diet kind. I went and bought the most delicious individually wrapped ice-creams

I could find :-) I eat well during the day, healthy foods spaced out, I make

sure I exercise but I look forward to that ice-cream at night too. Sometimes I

even eat it before dinner. :-)

Madie, I hope some of these suggestions help you a bit.....

 

Don't forget to enjoy the journey along the way. That's so important too!

 

Hugs..

From: Wayne and Wynn Schneider <mrfreeze@...>

Subject: Re: Please help- I just can't stop my night-time

eating

weightloss

Date: Friday, June 25, 2010, 9:38 AM

 

Hi Madie;

Old advice. What are you eating? When are you eating? Are you eating enough

during the day or do you restrict all day and then get so hungry at night

that you can't help yourself? Are you eating enough protein? Are you eating

enough complex carbs that are releasing slowly into your system, or are you

flooding that poor system with simple carbs like sugar - you know, the

" whites " ?

It's not very sexy, but eating breakfast is the number one aid to cut down

on the night time binging. Eating throughout the day so that you never get

so hungry that you can't help yourself later in the day and evening. Making

sure you are getting enough low fat protein and complex carbs to keep your

insulin and glucose levels just that - level. You absolutely can't fight

your hunger mechanism but you can adjust it, believe it or not, thru what

and when you eat.

It won't happen overnight, but if you work with your body instead of against

it things will change.

A couple of great books to read are " Breaking the Food Seduction " by Dr.

Neal Barnard and " Skinny Chics Don't Eat Salad " by Avanti. Dr.

Barnard promotes vegetarian and vegan diets and doesn't, but

whether you are willing to go the vegetarian route or not both of these

books will give you all the science you need to start again and get your

appetite and metabolism back on track.

I wish you the best

Wynn

Please help- I just can't stop my night-time

eating

I haven't posted for a while, but I've been following you all. Now I really

need you guys again... I've had ups and downs recently, but despite some

good days, I'm feeling such an overwhelming hopelessness right now, and I

know I still can't be working with the right tools. So ANY

suggestions/advice/experiences that you may have..I'd be so grateful.

It's still the evening that's killing me. I never binge during the day, but

then comes the night and I have this huge need to " indulge " / " treat myself "

and all that... It's like I'm saving myself all day for the wonderful tastes

and just eating to fill myself up at night. It's lovely, but also

disgusting. And of course I know from listening to IOWL over and over that

this isn't really a treat at all, but just an incredibly self-destructive

habit that makes me feel awful the next day (and when I go to bed, all

stressed thinking about the shocking number of calories I've eaten). Yet I

can't get it into my head, and I can't stop. I just don't know what to do. I

realise I have a lot of work to do, but WHAT? How? Why can't I stop buying

sweets? Every evening I swear I'll never eat another cookie again, and then

the next I still buy a small package. Or something else. And every night I

think that I am feeling balanced, that I will manage just a small piece of

that chocolate just to satisfy the craving, but then all of a sudden I've

eaten it all. And so it goes. And I feel worse and worse.

This inability to overcome the bingeing really is taking its toll now. I

feel completely horrible, but it can't be just because of a lack of

self-control. Firstly, because I have loads of self-control in my life

otherwise. I'm pretty good at doing whatever I set my mind to do. But more

importantly, because I know that's not what it's about. I realise there must

be inner conflict, a positive intent and so on. I love Renées show, and it

all rings incredibly true to me. But despite listening to the show over and

over, I can't stop. I'm really reaching my limit, and I need your help so

badly. I've cried and panicked about this too many times now. If you have

any tips or any advice- anything that has worked for you etc- please please

post them here.

Thank you all for being such a wonderful group.

xxx

------------------------------------

Copyright 2005-2007. A. s. All worldwide rights reserved.

Groups Links

[Guest guest]

Hi Wynn :-). GREAT advice!

 

Hi Madie..... I can really relate to how you're feeling. I can feel your

frustration in your letter and really understand where you're coming from. I

think that after a long day of being out in society (work, kids, school, taking

care of parents...whatever your responsibilities are!) we AT LAST arrive at home

and can maybe put our feet up/let our hair done for a few hours and what better

way to relax and treat ourselves than with food?? We're hungry anyway and so so

tired and heck tomorrow's going to be another long day...I know..I know... The

cookies and ice-cream....Pure luxury.

 

BUT... (always a but....)

 

How does it make you feel over time??  Not very good from what you've written.

You said you go to bed feeling overfull, guilty and just plain miserable. (Been

there way too many times and still struggle with the problem most days of the

week).

 

My suggestion is to find what else makes you feel really good. I LOVE juicing...

I throw carrots and lettuce and cabbage and cucumber etc together with an apple,

orange or some other fruit and make a super healthy juice. Add ice cubes

and  slowly savor. It makes me feel healthy and virtuous and fills me up too.

If you can't bother cleaning and chopping, buy them ready to go at the

supermarket. Or make a smoothie with a fruit or two and add some spinach and/or

a carrot and some yogurt.

 

Another suggestion is to take a nice long bath. Take  a cup of hot milk to sip

while you relax..add some chocolate to the milk or make yourself a nice crunchy

platter of veggies and fruits.

 

Also, make sure that you have sometime nice for dinner when you get home. If

possible cook it the day before....Or, Maybe writing down exactly what you are

going to eat for the day will help you control your nighttime snacking? (I can

have my apple, a piece of cheese, 10 almonds and a small yogurt tonite. Ummmm...

that's alot!)

 

DO NOT buy those packets of cookies on your way home. If they're not in the

house, you can't eat them! Are you afraid maybe that you won't have them in the

house when a craving hits?? I know I was. But once you know they're not there,

you just get on with it. You can always promise yourself to buy a packet

(individual sizes) of cookies ON THE WAY to work the next morning and eat them

for a snack at your lunch break.

 

I too am struggling on an everyday basis to find a balance. It is still not easy

as says so I have still not found my balance. To be honest since I really

really wanted sth sweet at night I have bought individually wrapped ice creams

and I make room in my diet to eat one everynight. Mind you, not the tasteless

diet kind. I went and bought the most delicious individually wrapped ice-creams

I could find :-) I eat well during the day, healthy foods spaced out, I make

sure I exercise but I look forward to that ice-cream at night too. Sometimes I

even eat it before dinner. :-)

Madie, I hope some of these suggestions help you a bit.....

 

Don't forget to enjoy the journey along the way. That's so important too!

 

Hugs..

From: Wayne and Wynn Schneider <mrfreeze@...>

Subject: Re: Please help- I just can't stop my night-time

eating

weightloss

Date: Friday, June 25, 2010, 9:38 AM

 

Hi Madie;

Old advice. What are you eating? When are you eating? Are you eating enough

during the day or do you restrict all day and then get so hungry at night

that you can't help yourself? Are you eating enough protein? Are you eating

enough complex carbs that are releasing slowly into your system, or are you

flooding that poor system with simple carbs like sugar - you know, the

" whites " ?

It's not very sexy, but eating breakfast is the number one aid to cut down

on the night time binging. Eating throughout the day so that you never get

so hungry that you can't help yourself later in the day and evening. Making

sure you are getting enough low fat protein and complex carbs to keep your

insulin and glucose levels just that - level. You absolutely can't fight

your hunger mechanism but you can adjust it, believe it or not, thru what

and when you eat.

It won't happen overnight, but if you work with your body instead of against

it things will change.

A couple of great books to read are " Breaking the Food Seduction " by Dr.

Neal Barnard and " Skinny Chics Don't Eat Salad " by Avanti. Dr.

Barnard promotes vegetarian and vegan diets and doesn't, but

whether you are willing to go the vegetarian route or not both of these

books will give you all the science you need to start again and get your

appetite and metabolism back on track.

I wish you the best

Wynn

Please help- I just can't stop my night-time

eating

I haven't posted for a while, but I've been following you all. Now I really

need you guys again... I've had ups and downs recently, but despite some

good days, I'm feeling such an overwhelming hopelessness right now, and I

know I still can't be working with the right tools. So ANY

suggestions/advice/experiences that you may have..I'd be so grateful.

It's still the evening that's killing me. I never binge during the day, but

then comes the night and I have this huge need to " indulge " / " treat myself "

and all that... It's like I'm saving myself all day for the wonderful tastes

and just eating to fill myself up at night. It's lovely, but also

disgusting. And of course I know from listening to IOWL over and over that

this isn't really a treat at all, but just an incredibly self-destructive

habit that makes me feel awful the next day (and when I go to bed, all

stressed thinking about the shocking number of calories I've eaten). Yet I

can't get it into my head, and I can't stop. I just don't know what to do. I

realise I have a lot of work to do, but WHAT? How? Why can't I stop buying

sweets? Every evening I swear I'll never eat another cookie again, and then

the next I still buy a small package. Or something else. And every night I

think that I am feeling balanced, that I will manage just a small piece of

that chocolate just to satisfy the craving, but then all of a sudden I've

eaten it all. And so it goes. And I feel worse and worse.

This inability to overcome the bingeing really is taking its toll now. I

feel completely horrible, but it can't be just because of a lack of

self-control. Firstly, because I have loads of self-control in my life

otherwise. I'm pretty good at doing whatever I set my mind to do. But more

importantly, because I know that's not what it's about. I realise there must

be inner conflict, a positive intent and so on. I love Renées show, and it

all rings incredibly true to me. But despite listening to the show over and

over, I can't stop. I'm really reaching my limit, and I need your help so

badly. I've cried and panicked about this too many times now. If you have

any tips or any advice- anything that has worked for you etc- please please

post them here.

Thank you all for being such a wonderful group.

xxx

------------------------------------

Copyright 2005-2007. A. s. All worldwide rights reserved.

Groups Links

[Guest guest]

I second Wynn's suggestions.

I'll have my bad days where I'm just craving things.

These are the days that I didn't exercise. I didn't spend 20-50 minutes

walking around, lifting weights or shoveling dirt.

These are the days that I'm not eating high protein, medium carb (the more

complex the better) and low fat... or the day after I really deviate. It

takes a day or two for me to get back in the swing of things.

I've noticed that no exercise and " bad " foods really turn me into an

enabler. I break down far easier when faced with a choice... or flat out

just crave the " bad " stuff.

If I eat and exercise fine, I feel like I'm on top of the world.

I've also been working on reframing and seeing how food makes me feel. It's

silly, but I it does help me to think " hey, this is yummy, but makes me feel

gross later " . And that only helps more with the reframing.

Why would you really consider something that makes you feel gross and works

against your goals to be a treat? Or luxury? Is it the sugar/fat buzz that

numbs you out? Working towards your *real* goal of not losing weight?

There's a reason why you're doing something you ought not do... IMO, we're

lucky if it's only because we like the taste at the moment. Everything else

seems like such a deeper issue.

On Thu, Jun 24, 2010 at 11:34 PM, e v <evergos@...> wrote:

>

>

> Hi Wynn :-). GREAT advice!

>

> Hi Madie..... I can really relate to how you're feeling. I can feel your

> frustration in your letter and really understand where you're coming from. I

> think that after a long day of being out in society (work, kids, school,

> taking care of parents...whatever your responsibilities are!) we AT LAST

> arrive at home and can maybe put our feet up/let our hair done for a few

> hours and what better way to relax and treat ourselves than with food??

> We're hungry anyway and so so tired and heck tomorrow's going to be another

> long day...I know..I know... The cookies and ice-cream....Pure luxury.

>

> BUT... (always a but....)

>

> How does it make you feel over time?? Not very good from what you've

> written. You said you go to bed feeling overfull, guilty and just plain

> miserable. (Been there way too many times and still struggle with the

> problem most days of the week).

>

> My suggestion is to find what else makes you feel really good. I LOVE

> juicing... I throw carrots and lettuce and cabbage and cucumber etc together

> with an apple, orange or some other fruit and make a super healthy juice.

> Add ice cubes and slowly savor. It makes me feel healthy and virtuous and

> fills me up too. If you can't bother cleaning and chopping, buy them ready

> to go at the supermarket. Or make a smoothie with a fruit or two and add

> some spinach and/or a carrot and some yogurt.

>

> Another suggestion is to take a nice long bath. Take a cup of hot milk to

> sip while you relax..add some chocolate to the milk or make yourself a nice

> crunchy platter of veggies and fruits.

>

> Also, make sure that you have sometime nice for dinner when you get home.

> If possible cook it the day before....Or, Maybe writing down exactly what

> you are going to eat for the day will help you control your nighttime

> snacking? (I can have my apple, a piece of cheese, 10 almonds and a small

> yogurt tonite. Ummmm... that's alot!)

>

> DO NOT buy those packets of cookies on your way home. If they're not in the

> house, you can't eat them! Are you afraid maybe that you won't have them in

> the house when a craving hits?? I know I was. But once you know they're not

> there, you just get on with it. You can always promise yourself to buy a

> packet (individual sizes) of cookies ON THE WAY to work the next morning and

> eat them for a snack at your lunch break.

>

> I too am struggling on an everyday basis to find a balance. It is still not

> easy as says so I have still not found my balance. To be honest since

> I really really wanted sth sweet at night I have bought individually wrapped

> ice creams and I make room in my diet to eat one everynight. Mind you, not

> the tasteless diet kind. I went and bought the most delicious individually

> wrapped ice-creams I could find :-) I eat well during the day, healthy foods

> spaced out, I make sure I exercise but I look forward to that ice-cream at

> night too. Sometimes I even eat it before dinner. :-)

>

> Madie, I hope some of these suggestions help you a bit.....

>

> Don't forget to enjoy the journey along the way. That's so important too!

>

> Hugs..

>

>

> From: Wayne and Wynn Schneider <mrfreeze@... <mrfreeze%40agt.net>>

> Subject: Re: Please help- I just can't stop my

> night-time eating

> weightloss <weightloss%40>

> Date: Friday, June 25, 2010, 9:38 AM

>

>

>

>

> Hi Madie;

> Old advice. What are you eating? When are you eating? Are you eating enough

>

> during the day or do you restrict all day and then get so hungry at night

> that you can't help yourself? Are you eating enough protein? Are you eating

>

> enough complex carbs that are releasing slowly into your system, or are you

>

> flooding that poor system with simple carbs like sugar - you know, the

> " whites " ?

> It's not very sexy, but eating breakfast is the number one aid to cut down

> on the night time binging. Eating throughout the day so that you never get

> so hungry that you can't help yourself later in the day and evening. Making

>

> sure you are getting enough low fat protein and complex carbs to keep your

> insulin and glucose levels just that - level. You absolutely can't fight

> your hunger mechanism but you can adjust it, believe it or not, thru what

> and when you eat.

> It won't happen overnight, but if you work with your body instead of

> against

> it things will change.

> A couple of great books to read are " Breaking the Food Seduction " by Dr.

> Neal Barnard and " Skinny Chics Don't Eat Salad " by Avanti. Dr.

> Barnard promotes vegetarian and vegan diets and doesn't, but

> whether you are willing to go the vegetarian route or not both of these

> books will give you all the science you need to start again and get your

> appetite and metabolism back on track.

> I wish you the best

> Wynn

> Please help- I just can't stop my night-time

>

> eating

>

> I haven't posted for a while, but I've been following you all. Now I really

>

> need you guys again... I've had ups and downs recently, but despite some

> good days, I'm feeling such an overwhelming hopelessness right now, and I

> know I still can't be working with the right tools. So ANY

> suggestions/advice/experiences that you may have..I'd be so grateful.

>

> It's still the evening that's killing me. I never binge during the day, but

>

> then comes the night and I have this huge need to " indulge " / " treat myself "

> and all that... It's like I'm saving myself all day for the wonderful

> tastes

> and just eating to fill myself up at night. It's lovely, but also

> disgusting. And of course I know from listening to IOWL over and over that

> this isn't really a treat at all, but just an incredibly self-destructive

> habit that makes me feel awful the next day (and when I go to bed, all

> stressed thinking about the shocking number of calories I've eaten). Yet I

> can't get it into my head, and I can't stop. I just don't know what to do.

> I

> realise I have a lot of work to do, but WHAT? How? Why can't I stop buying

> sweets? Every evening I swear I'll never eat another cookie again, and then

>

> the next I still buy a small package. Or something else. And every night I

> think that I am feeling balanced, that I will manage just a small piece of

> that chocolate just to satisfy the craving, but then all of a sudden I've

> eaten it all. And so it goes. And I feel worse and worse.

>

> This inability to overcome the bingeing really is taking its toll now. I

> feel completely horrible, but it can't be just because of a lack of

> self-control. Firstly, because I have loads of self-control in my life

> otherwise. I'm pretty good at doing whatever I set my mind to do. But more

> importantly, because I know that's not what it's about. I realise there

> must

> be inner conflict, a positive intent and so on. I love Renées show, and it

> all rings incredibly true to me. But despite listening to the show over and

>

> over, I can't stop. I'm really reaching my limit, and I need your help so

> badly. I've cried and panicked about this too many times now. If you have

> any tips or any advice- anything that has worked for you etc- please please

>

> post them here.

>

> Thank you all for being such a wonderful group.

>

> xxx

>

> ------------------------------------

>

> Copyright 2005-2007. A. s. All worldwide rights

> reserved.

> Groups Links

>

>

[Guest guest]

Where you the one that recommend the " 29 Gifts " by Cami ? Well who ever

did thanks !!!!!! I enjoyed it and so did my assitant.

Hugs Constance in Mich.

I love to read.

I think I will add this week to my reading " Skinny Chics Don't Eat Salad " by

Avanti

From: Wayne and Wynn Schneider <mrfreeze@...>

Subject: Re: Please help- I just can't stop my night-time

eating

weightloss

Date: Thursday, June 24, 2010, 10:38 PM

 

Hi Madie;

Old advice. What are you eating? When are you eating? Are you eating enough

during the day or do you restrict all day and then get so hungry at night

that you can't help yourself? Are you eating enough protein? Are you eating

enough complex carbs that are releasing slowly into your system, or are you

flooding that poor system with simple carbs like sugar - you know, the

" whites " ?

It's not very sexy, but eating breakfast is the number one aid to cut down

on the night time binging. Eating throughout the day so that you never get

so hungry that you can't help yourself later in the day and evening. Making

sure you are getting enough low fat protein and complex carbs to keep your

insulin and glucose levels just that - level. You absolutely can't fight

your hunger mechanism but you can adjust it, believe it or not, thru what

and when you eat.

It won't happen overnight, but if you work with your body instead of against

it things will change.

A couple of great books to read are " Breaking the Food Seduction " by Dr.

Neal Barnard and " Skinny Chics Don't Eat Salad " by Avanti. Dr.

Barnard promotes vegetarian and vegan diets and doesn't, but

whether you are willing to go the vegetarian route or not both of these

books will give you all the science you need to start again and get your

appetite and metabolism back on track.

I wish you the best

Wynn

Please help- I just can't stop my night-time

eating

I haven't posted for a while, but I've been following you all. Now I really

need you guys again... I've had ups and downs recently, but despite some

good days, I'm feeling such an overwhelming hopelessness right now, and I

know I still can't be working with the right tools. So ANY

suggestions/advice/experiences that you may have..I'd be so grateful.

It's still the evening that's killing me. I never binge during the day, but

then comes the night and I have this huge need to " indulge " / " treat myself "

and all that... It's like I'm saving myself all day for the wonderful tastes

and just eating to fill myself up at night. It's lovely, but also

disgusting. And of course I know from listening to IOWL over and over that

this isn't really a treat at all, but just an incredibly self-destructive

habit that makes me feel awful the next day (and when I go to bed, all

stressed thinking about the shocking number of calories I've eaten). Yet I

can't get it into my head, and I can't stop. I just don't know what to do. I

realise I have a lot of work to do, but WHAT? How? Why can't I stop buying

sweets? Every evening I swear I'll never eat another cookie again, and then

the next I still buy a small package. Or something else. And every night I

think that I am feeling balanced, that I will manage just a small piece of

that chocolate just to satisfy the craving, but then all of a sudden I've

eaten it all. And so it goes. And I feel worse and worse.

This inability to overcome the bingeing really is taking its toll now. I

feel completely horrible, but it can't be just because of a lack of

self-control. Firstly, because I have loads of self-control in my life

otherwise. I'm pretty good at doing whatever I set my mind to do. But more

importantly, because I know that's not what it's about. I realise there must

be inner conflict, a positive intent and so on. I love Renées show, and it

all rings incredibly true to me. But despite listening to the show over and

over, I can't stop. I'm really reaching my limit, and I need your help so

badly. I've cried and panicked about this too many times now. If you have

any tips or any advice- anything that has worked for you etc- please please

post them here.

Thank you all for being such a wonderful group.

xxx

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[Guest guest]

Hi Constance;

Yup, it was me. I'm so glad you enjoyed it. Really changes how you look at

things, doesn't it?

Glad to hear you are going to read " Skinny Chics don't Eat Salads " . I think

you'll find it interesting.

Have a wonderful weekend.

Wynn

Please help- I just can't stop my night-time

eating

I haven't posted for a while, but I've been following you all. Now I really

need you guys again... I've had ups and downs recently, but despite some

good days, I'm feeling such an overwhelming hopelessness right now, and I

know I still can't be working with the right tools. So ANY

suggestions/advice/experiences that you may have..I'd be so grateful.

It's still the evening that's killing me. I never binge during the day, but

then comes the night and I have this huge need to " indulge " / " treat myself "

and all that... It's like I'm saving myself all day for the wonderful tastes

and just eating to fill myself up at night. It's lovely, but also

disgusting. And of course I know from listening to IOWL over and over that

this isn't really a treat at all, but just an incredibly self-destructive

habit that makes me feel awful the next day (and when I go to bed, all

stressed thinking about the shocking number of calories I've eaten). Yet I

can't get it into my head, and I can't stop. I just don't know what to do. I

realise I have a lot of work to do, but WHAT? How? Why can't I stop buying

sweets? Every evening I swear I'll never eat another cookie again, and then

the next I still buy a small package. Or something else. And every night I

think that I am feeling balanced, that I will manage just a small piece of

that chocolate just to satisfy the craving, but then all of a sudden I've

eaten it all. And so it goes. And I feel worse and worse.

This inability to overcome the bingeing really is taking its toll now. I

feel completely horrible, but it can't be just because of a lack of

self-control. Firstly, because I have loads of self-control in my life

otherwise. I'm pretty good at doing whatever I set my mind to do. But more

importantly, because I know that's not what it's about. I realise there must

be inner conflict, a positive intent and so on. I love Renées show, and it

all rings incredibly true to me. But despite listening to the show over and

over, I can't stop. I'm really reaching my limit, and I need your help so

badly. I've cried and panicked about this too many times now. If you have

any tips or any advice- anything that has worked for you etc- please please

post them here.

Thank you all for being such a wonderful group.

xxx

------------------------------------

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Groups Links

[Guest guest]

Thanks Wynn I will let you know how I like it I do rather love to read.

Hugs Constance in Mich.

From: Wayne and Wynn Schneider <mrfreeze@...>

Subject: Re: Please help- I just can't stop my

night-time eating

weightloss

Date: Thursday, June 24, 2010, 10:38 PM

Hi Madie;

Old advice. What are you eating? When are you eating? Are you eating enough

during the day or do you restrict all day and then get so hungry at night

that you can't help yourself? Are you eating enough protein? Are you eating

enough complex carbs that are releasing slowly into your system, or are you

flooding that poor system with simple carbs like sugar - you know, the

" whites " ?

It's not very sexy, but eating breakfast is the number one aid to cut down

on the night time binging. Eating throughout the day so that you never get

so hungry that you can't help yourself later in the day and evening. Making

sure you are getting enough low fat protein and complex carbs to keep your

insulin and glucose levels just that - level. You absolutely can't fight

your hunger mechanism but you can adjust it, believe it or not, thru what

and when you eat.

It won't happen overnight, but if you work with your body instead of against

it things will change.

A couple of great books to read are " Breaking the Food Seduction " by Dr.

Neal Barnard and " Skinny Chics Don't Eat Salad " by Avanti. Dr.

Barnard promotes vegetarian and vegan diets and doesn't, but

whether you are willing to go the vegetarian route or not both of these

books will give you all the science you need to start again and get your

appetite and metabolism back on track.

I wish you the best

Wynn

Please help- I just can't stop my night-time

eating

I haven't posted for a while, but I've been following you all. Now I really

need you guys again... I've had ups and downs recently, but despite some

good days, I'm feeling such an overwhelming hopelessness right now, and I

know I still can't be working with the right tools. So ANY

suggestions/advice/experiences that you may have..I'd be so grateful.

It's still the evening that's killing me. I never binge during the day, but

then comes the night and I have this huge need to " indulge " / " treat myself "

and all that... It's like I'm saving myself all day for the wonderful tastes

and just eating to fill myself up at night. It's lovely, but also

disgusting. And of course I know from listening to IOWL over and over that

this isn't really a treat at all, but just an incredibly self-destructive

habit that makes me feel awful the next day (and when I go to bed, all

stressed thinking about the shocking number of calories I've eaten). Yet I

can't get it into my head, and I can't stop. I just don't know what to do. I

realise I have a lot of work to do, but WHAT? How? Why can't I stop buying

sweets? Every evening I swear I'll never eat another cookie again, and then

the next I still buy a small package. Or something else. And every night I

think that I am feeling balanced, that I will manage just a small piece of

that chocolate just to satisfy the craving, but then all of a sudden I've

eaten it all. And so it goes. And I feel worse and worse.

This inability to overcome the bingeing really is taking its toll now. I

feel completely horrible, but it can't be just because of a lack of

self-control. Firstly, because I have loads of self-control in my life

otherwise. I'm pretty good at doing whatever I set my mind to do. But more

importantly, because I know that's not what it's about. I realise there must

be inner conflict, a positive intent and so on. I love Renées show, and it

all rings incredibly true to me. But despite listening to the show over and

over, I can't stop. I'm really reaching my limit, and I need your help so

badly. I've cried and panicked about this too many times now. If you have

any tips or any advice- anything that has worked for you etc- please please

post them here.

Thank you all for being such a wonderful group.

xxx

------------------------------------

Copyright 2005-2007. A. s. All worldwide rights reserved.

Groups Links

[Guest guest]

Hi Madiemania,

Sorry you are having such a rough time.

Have you listened to 's podcasts, " Salvaging the Serious Screw-up " Parts I

& II? She addresses this very issue. Try her suggestions.

Also, EFT tapping is helpful before or even during a binge.

Take care,

[Guest guest]

Hi all,

I'm another one who's going to say 'me too!'. I'm fine all day - I think its

because I like being hungry during the day .. but I can't let hunger intefere

with my sleep.

I know I need to check-in - and be satisifed with the evening meal - and not go

for the sweet taste afterwards... but I am reading the responses as I am looking

for help too.

I do have 1 thing that works (some of the time)  if I keep my hands busy  -

ironing etc; I can over overcome the initial cravings amd then I seem to be okay

for the rest of the night.

Cheers

Carol

 

________________________________

From: madiemania <madiemania@...>

weightloss

Sent: Fri, June 25, 2010 10:07:47 AM

Subject: Please help- I just can't stop my night-time

eating

 

I haven't posted for a while, but I've been following you all. Now I really need

you guys again... I've had ups and downs recently, but despite some good days,

I'm feeling such an overwhelming hopelessness right now, and I know I still

can't be working with the right tools. So ANY suggestions/advice/experiences

that you may have..I'd be so grateful.

It's still the evening that's killing me. I never binge during the day, but then

comes the night and I have this huge need to " indulge " / " treat myself " and all

that... It's like I'm saving myself all day for the wonderful tastes and just

eating to fill myself up at night. It's lovely, but also disgusting. And of

course I know from listening to IOWL over and over that this isn't really a

treat at all, but just an incredibly self-destructive habit that makes me feel

awful the next day (and when I go to bed, all stressed thinking about the

shocking number of calories I've eaten). Yet I can't get it into my head, and I

can't stop. I just don't know what to do. I realise I have a lot of work to do,

but WHAT? How? Why can't I stop buying sweets? Every evening I swear I'll never

eat another cookie again, and then the next I still buy a small package. Or

something else. And every night I think that I am feeling balanced, that I will

manage just a small piece of

that chocolate just to satisfy the craving, but then all of a sudden I've eaten

it all. And so it goes. And I feel worse and worse.

This inability to overcome the bingeing really is taking its toll now. I feel

completely horrible, but it can't be just because of a lack of self-control.

Firstly, because I have loads of self-control in my life otherwise. I'm pretty

good at doing whatever I set my mind to do. But more importantly, because I know

that's not what it's about. I realise there must be inner conflict, a positive

intent and so on. I love Renées show, and it all rings incredibly true to me.

But despite listening to the show over and over, I can't stop. I'm really

reaching my limit, and I need your help so badly. I've cried and panicked about

this too many times now. If you have any tips or any advice- anything that has

worked for you etc- please please post them here.

Thank you all for being such a wonderful group.

xxx

[Guest guest]

Just wanted to say thank you all for sharing and coming with such wonderful

advice. I am truly amazed by how people in this group support each other.

Since I wrote my post I've had more binges. I've done so much better during the

day feeling really forgiving and in balance, but then for some reason I go

overboard and just lose it at night. But somehow I still feel optimistic- I

think I can change this. I read all your advice and I've been giving a lot of

thought to how I eat during the day. I think the key might be larger meals

during the day and more protein, less carbs. The scary part, however, is that

transition period when I'm afraid to eat too much during the day because I fear

the evening binge and the horrific amount of calories it will all add up to. But

I guess that's just a fear I'll have to try to face..? Just bear those initial

days which might consist of both the " old " behaviour of bingeing AND the " new " ,

improved (hopefully) eating with more substantial and more protein-focused meals

during the day. It really scares me, but I can't see any other way.

Thanks again. To all of you fighting this same fight- I wish you all the best

and send you all my strength and support. And I'll keep coming back here to this

group, because it's such a wonderful place to feel better and motivated.

Madie x

>

> Hi all,

>

> I'm another one who's going to say 'me too!'. I'm fine all day - I think its

because I like being hungry during the day .. but I can't let hunger intefere

with my sleep.

>

> I know I need to check-in - and be satisifed with the evening meal - and not

go for the sweet taste afterwards... but I am reading the responses as I am

looking for help too.

>

> I do have 1 thing that works (some of the time)  if I keep my hands busy  -

ironing etc; I can over overcome the initial cravings amd then I seem to be okay

for the rest of the night.

>

> Cheers

> Carol

>

>

>

>

>

>

>  

>

>

>

> ________________________________

> From: madiemania <madiemania@...>

> weightloss

> Sent: Fri, June 25, 2010 10:07:47 AM

> Subject: Please help- I just can't stop my night-time

eating

>

>  

> I haven't posted for a while, but I've been following you all. Now I really

need you guys again... I've had ups and downs recently, but despite some good

days, I'm feeling such an overwhelming hopelessness right now, and I know I

still can't be working with the right tools. So ANY

suggestions/advice/experiences that you may have..I'd be so grateful.

>

> It's still the evening that's killing me. I never binge during the day, but

then comes the night and I have this huge need to " indulge " / " treat myself " and

all that... It's like I'm saving myself all day for the wonderful tastes and

just eating to fill myself up at night. It's lovely, but also disgusting. And of

course I know from listening to IOWL over and over that this isn't really a

treat at all, but just an incredibly self-destructive habit that makes me feel

awful the next day (and when I go to bed, all stressed thinking about the

shocking number of calories I've eaten). Yet I can't get it into my head, and I

can't stop. I just don't know what to do. I realise I have a lot of work to do,

but WHAT? How? Why can't I stop buying sweets? Every evening I swear I'll never

eat another cookie again, and then the next I still buy a small package. Or

something else. And every night I think that I am feeling balanced, that I will

manage just a small piece of

> that chocolate just to satisfy the craving, but then all of a sudden I've

eaten it all. And so it goes. And I feel worse and worse.

>

> This inability to overcome the bingeing really is taking its toll now. I feel

completely horrible, but it can't be just because of a lack of self-control.

Firstly, because I have loads of self-control in my life otherwise. I'm pretty

good at doing whatever I set my mind to do. But more importantly, because I know

that's not what it's about. I realise there must be inner conflict, a positive

intent and so on. I love Renées show, and it all rings incredibly true to me.

But despite listening to the show over and over, I can't stop. I'm really

reaching my limit, and I need your help so badly. I've cried and panicked about

this too many times now. If you have any tips or any advice- anything that has

worked for you etc- please please post them here.

>

> Thank you all for being such a wonderful group.

>

> xxx

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Just wanted to say thank you all for sharing and coming with such wonderful

advice. I am truly amazed by how people in this group support each other.

Since I wrote my post I've had more binges. I've done so much better during the

day feeling really forgiving and in balance, but then for some reason I go

overboard and just lose it at night. But somehow I still feel optimistic- I

think I can change this. I read all your advice and I've been giving a lot of

thought to how I eat during the day. I think the key might be larger meals

during the day and more protein, less carbs. The scary part, however, is that

transition period when I'm afraid to eat too much during the day because I fear

the evening binge and the horrific amount of calories it will all add up to. But

I guess that's just a fear I'll have to try to face..? Just bear those initial

days which might consist of both the " old " behaviour of bingeing AND the " new " ,

improved (hopefully) eating with more substantial and more protein-focused meals

during the day. It really scares me, but I can't see any other way.

Thanks again. To all of you fighting this same fight- I wish you all the best

and send you all my strength and support. And I'll keep coming back here to this

group, because it's such a wonderful place to feel better and motivated.

Madie x

>

> Hi all,

>

> I'm another one who's going to say 'me too!'. I'm fine all day - I think its

because I like being hungry during the day .. but I can't let hunger intefere

with my sleep.

>

> I know I need to check-in - and be satisifed with the evening meal - and not

go for the sweet taste afterwards... but I am reading the responses as I am

looking for help too.

>

> I do have 1 thing that works (some of the time)  if I keep my hands busy  -

ironing etc; I can over overcome the initial cravings amd then I seem to be okay

for the rest of the night.

>

> Cheers

> Carol

>

>

>

>

>

>

>  

>

>

>

> ________________________________

> From: madiemania <madiemania@...>

> weightloss

> Sent: Fri, June 25, 2010 10:07:47 AM

> Subject: Please help- I just can't stop my night-time

eating

>

>  

> I haven't posted for a while, but I've been following you all. Now I really

need you guys again... I've had ups and downs recently, but despite some good

days, I'm feeling such an overwhelming hopelessness right now, and I know I

still can't be working with the right tools. So ANY

suggestions/advice/experiences that you may have..I'd be so grateful.

>

> It's still the evening that's killing me. I never binge during the day, but

then comes the night and I have this huge need to " indulge " / " treat myself " and

all that... It's like I'm saving myself all day for the wonderful tastes and

just eating to fill myself up at night. It's lovely, but also disgusting. And of

course I know from listening to IOWL over and over that this isn't really a

treat at all, but just an incredibly self-destructive habit that makes me feel

awful the next day (and when I go to bed, all stressed thinking about the

shocking number of calories I've eaten). Yet I can't get it into my head, and I

can't stop. I just don't know what to do. I realise I have a lot of work to do,

but WHAT? How? Why can't I stop buying sweets? Every evening I swear I'll never

eat another cookie again, and then the next I still buy a small package. Or

something else. And every night I think that I am feeling balanced, that I will

manage just a small piece of

> that chocolate just to satisfy the craving, but then all of a sudden I've

eaten it all. And so it goes. And I feel worse and worse.

>

> This inability to overcome the bingeing really is taking its toll now. I feel

completely horrible, but it can't be just because of a lack of self-control.

Firstly, because I have loads of self-control in my life otherwise. I'm pretty

good at doing whatever I set my mind to do. But more importantly, because I know

that's not what it's about. I realise there must be inner conflict, a positive

intent and so on. I love Renées show, and it all rings incredibly true to me.

But despite listening to the show over and over, I can't stop. I'm really

reaching my limit, and I need your help so badly. I've cried and panicked about

this too many times now. If you have any tips or any advice- anything that has

worked for you etc- please please post them here.

>

> Thank you all for being such a wonderful group.

>

> xxx

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>