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In a message dated 12/7/2007 6:13:47 AM Eastern Standard Time,

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My dd has similar issues with always feeling that her underpants are wet, and

needs to change them several times a day.

Judy: This is the first time I've read of someone else having this issue!!!

This was a constant OCD issue for my son a few years back. We had a

wonderful therapist back then who suggested the following ideas for ERP on this

issue. #1. Purposefully have him put water on his underwear and wear them

around

for a while a few different times so he knows what wet underwear actually feel

like, and he is exposed to wetness - takes the fear out a bit. #2 Count the

pairs of underwear he usually needs and take all other underwear out of his

drawer. Once he's gone through these he's out of luck. Replenish the next day.

We started out with about 7 pairs, and every 2-3 days reduced it by a pair,

until he got down to just 2 pairs. He cried/screamed at first when he ran out

out of pairs of course, but we didn't give in. Within 2 weeks, the issue was

gone. Like magic after sufferring with this for at least 2 years. Thought I'd

share in case anyone else out there is looking for a way to tackle this

particular issue.

- in MI

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My first question to you about the wet pants is, are the pants wet or

is this a mental issue? When my son did a paxil trial, they kept

upping his risperdal to stabilize or something, and then his muscles

got all rigid, so they added benzo something or other, and before you

knew it, he was having muscle spasms, he was like a zombie, and he

was sweating his underwear wet all the time. The doc didn't believe

him, so I kept him home for a few days and checked myself when my son

complained. Sure enough, his underwear was wet. It was a drug

reaction -- not a figment of his ocd imaginations!

mm

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>

> In a message dated 12/7/2007 6:13:47 AM Eastern Standard Time,

> writes:

>

> My dd has similar issues with always feeling that her underpants

are wet, and

> needs to change them several times a day.

>

> Judy: This is the first time I've read of someone else having this

issue!!!

> This was a constant OCD issue for my son a few years back. We

had a

> wonderful therapist back then who suggested the following ideas for

ERP on this

> issue. #1. Purposefully have him put water on his underwear and

wear them around

> for a while a few different times so he knows what wet underwear

actually feel

> like, and he is exposed to wetness - takes the fear out a bit. #2

Count the

> pairs of underwear he usually needs and take all other underwear

out of his

> drawer. Once he's gone through these he's out of luck. Replenish

the next day.

> We started out with about 7 pairs, and every 2-3 days reduced it by

a pair,

> until he got down to just 2 pairs. He cried/screamed at first when

he ran out

> out of pairs of course, but we didn't give in. Within 2 weeks, the

issue was

> gone. Like magic after sufferring with this for at least 2 years.

Thought I'd

> share in case anyone else out there is looking for a way to tackle

this

> particular issue.

>

> - in MI

>

>

>

> **************************************Check out AOL's list of

2007's hottest

> products.

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my dd started with the wet feeling at age 5. However by age 6-7 she starting

just saying it wasn't feeling right. I had her checked by 2 peditricians and a

urologist when she was 5 jsut to be sure nothing was physically wrong. I had

her checked again 2 weeks ago at age 9 1/2 and still nothing physically wrong.

I knew there wan't but want proof for the school and any other doubters.

ga_mommie <mega_mommie@...> wrote: My first question to you about

the wet pants is, are the pants wet or

is this a mental issue? When my son did a paxil trial, they kept

upping his risperdal to stabilize or something, and then his muscles

got all rigid, so they added benzo something or other, and before you

knew it, he was having muscle spasms, he was like a zombie, and he

was sweating his underwear wet all the time. The doc didn't believe

him, so I kept him home for a few days and checked myself when my son

complained. Sure enough, his underwear was wet. It was a drug

reaction -- not a figment of his ocd imaginations!

mm

>

>

> In a message dated 12/7/2007 6:13:47 AM Eastern Standard Time,

> writes:

>

> My dd has similar issues with always feeling that her underpants

are wet, and

> needs to change them several times a day.

>

> Judy: This is the first time I've read of someone else having this

issue!!!

> This was a constant OCD issue for my son a few years back. We

had a

> wonderful therapist back then who suggested the following ideas for

ERP on this

> issue. #1. Purposefully have him put water on his underwear and

wear them around

> for a while a few different times so he knows what wet underwear

actually feel

> like, and he is exposed to wetness - takes the fear out a bit. #2

Count the

> pairs of underwear he usually needs and take all other underwear

out of his

> drawer. Once he's gone through these he's out of luck. Replenish

the next day.

> We started out with about 7 pairs, and every 2-3 days reduced it by

a pair,

> until he got down to just 2 pairs. He cried/screamed at first when

he ran out

> out of pairs of course, but we didn't give in. Within 2 weeks, the

issue was

> gone. Like magic after sufferring with this for at least 2 years.

Thought I'd

> share in case anyone else out there is looking for a way to tackle

this

> particular issue.

>

> - in MI

>

>

>

> **************************************Check out AOL's list of

2007's hottest

> products.

> (http://money.aol.com/special/hot-products-2007?

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>

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Thank you so much for sharing that idea.! I have never tried it and never would

have thought of that! I definitely will try !!!

Hugs

Judy

Judy: This is the first time I've read of someone else having this issue!!!

This was a constant OCD issue for my son a few years back. We had a

wonderful therapist back then who suggested the following ideas for ERP on this

issue. #1. Purposefully have him put water on his underwear and wear them

around

for a while a few different times so he knows what wet underwear actually feel

like, and he is exposed to wetness - takes the fear out a bit. #2 Count the

pairs of underwear he usually needs and take all other underwear out of his

drawer. Once he's gone through these he's out of luck. Replenish the next day.

We started out with about 7 pairs, and every 2-3 days reduced it by a pair,

until he got down to just 2 pairs. He cried/screamed at first when he ran out

out of pairs of course, but we didn't give in. Within 2 weeks, the issue was

gone. Like magic after sufferring with this for at least 2 years. Thought I'd

share in case anyone else out there is looking for a way to tackle this

particular issue.

- in MI

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I used to think my dd had a urinary infection also, and had to have her checked

several times. The nurse was constantly calling me, since preschool, saying that

she had symptoms of a UTI, but , no, it was the ocd.

Hugs

Judy

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With our son, the docs (urologist) eventually came up with the

diagnosis of meatal stenosis (sp?), which means the opening at the end

of his penis was not large enough. They wanted to do surgery on him

to enlarge it. I just couldn't bring myself to put him through that.

I wasn't convinced that was the problem. Yet, another urologist,

wanted to put him through an invasive test where they run a camera up

the penis to see if there are any problems. We also backed out on

that, worrying about what kind of trauma that would cause him, verses

the benefits reaped. Looking back, I'm so glad we did back out on

both. Something told me that it was something else. He would not

have been able to mentally handle such drastic measures. He was

already so fragile. But, we also had no idea that it was OCD

affecting him that way, at the time. Eventually, I started to suspect

OCD was involved, especially as it worsened. We were at the point of

trying meds to see if it stopped, and if it didn't stop with meds, we

were planning on following through with the other stuff. Thankfully,

the bathroom nightmares stopped with Celexa. Oh yeah, and we went

through all the testing for urinary tract infections too. It amazes

me that doctors don't seem to be aware of the connection between OCD

and bathroom problems.

BJ

>

> I used to think my dd had a urinary infection also, and had to have

her checked several times. The nurse was constantly calling me, since

preschool, saying that she had symptoms of a UTI, but , no, it was the

ocd.

> Hugs

> Judy

>

>

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Oh, if I had had this " nugget of gold " information when Josh was 6. .

..It would have saved me a lot of grief! This is great info, !

I remember him going through 13 pairs of underwear on day because he

was sure he had gotten a drop of pee in them. I had no idea what was

going on. (Had no idea he had OCD then) Oddly enough, my nephew, who

was a year and a half older, had gone through the same thing. (She

also had no idea her son had OCD) They were the only two boys in the

family, so my sister and I wondered if that was just how boys were.

We obviously had no brothers either. lol It's funny, NOW! Turns out

both have diagnosed OCD now too. It's amazing how the right " tools "

can make all the difference in the world. It seemed to really work

for your son, what a relief that must have been.

BJ

>

>

> In a message dated 12/7/2007 6:13:47 AM Eastern Standard Time,

> writes:

>

> My dd has similar issues with always feeling that her underpants are

wet, and

> needs to change them several times a day.

>

> Judy: This is the first time I've read of someone else having this

issue!!!

> This was a constant OCD issue for my son a few years back. We had a

> wonderful therapist back then who suggested the following ideas for

ERP on this

> issue. #1. Purposefully have him put water on his underwear and

wear them around

> for a while a few different times so he knows what wet underwear

actually feel

> like, and he is exposed to wetness - takes the fear out a bit. #2

Count the

> pairs of underwear he usually needs and take all other underwear out

of his

> drawer. Once he's gone through these he's out of luck. Replenish

the next day.

> We started out with about 7 pairs, and every 2-3 days reduced it by

a pair,

> until he got down to just 2 pairs. He cried/screamed at first when

he ran out

> out of pairs of course, but we didn't give in. Within 2 weeks, the

issue was

> gone. Like magic after sufferring with this for at least 2 years.

Thought I'd

> share in case anyone else out there is looking for a way to tackle this

> particular issue.

>

> - in MI

>

>

>

> **************************************Check out AOL's list of 2007's

hottest

> products.

>

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>

>

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Just a thought! My son has had lots of urinary complaints. The

shrinks all say it is in his head. The pediatrician has

confirmed " no infection " multiple times. But there are different

measures of infection. One is white cell count elevation and

something other than bacteria in the urine (I am thinkng something

like leukacites??) Anyway, depending on who tests and what they test

for, you will get different results. I was very concerned when my

son was young, because his dad had had a rare condition when he was

young and has suffered from various urinary problems. So I

persisted, and after sevearl years of this while working with a

pediatric urologist, the urologist said we needed to do a

cystoscopy. It showed irregular, bare patches of skin on the inside

of his urinary track that would explain the painful urination. I was

told there was no cure but that hopefully he would eventually outgrow

the condition. So your kids MAY actually have a physical problem for

which there is no specific cure and no easy test. I now give my son

pyridium (a prescription drug which anesthetises the urinary trac and

turns his pee orange)when he complains. We drink cranberry juice and

lots of water regularly. And I will not allow the school to prohibit

him from using the restroom as needed, and he can drink water

whenever he wants from a water bottle he carries.

mm

> >

> > I used to think my dd had a urinary infection also, and had to

have

> her checked several times. The nurse was constantly calling me,

since

> preschool, saying that she had symptoms of a UTI, but , no, it was

the

> ocd.

> > Hugs

> > Judy

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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