Guest guest Posted September 16, 2004 Report Share Posted September 16, 2004 I H pylori is present, it may not necessarily be your problem, though docs will assume so and try to kill it off with drugs assuming that it is the cause of your problem. from a holistic viewpoint, the h pylori is present due the weakend condition of the digestive track/stomach. it shows up to help break down waste, weak cells, ect. it is not the culprit. try to find out why its there, correct that problem, and the h pylori will dissappear without having to drug yourself, which will not solve the problem long term. johng > My dr ordered a blood test for me yesterday to test for H Pylori. I > asked him about parasites and he said if I had them that my white > cell count should be high. Does anyone know if this is true? > > The common treatment for h pylori is lots of heavy antibiotics. Been there > done that and got Candida (G) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 17, 2004 Report Share Posted September 17, 2004 If your body is fighting it, that would be true. If your immune system is worn out you might not have a high white blood cell count. > parasites > > My dr ordered a blood test for me yesterday to test for H Pylori. I > asked him about parasites and he said if I had them that my white > cell count should be high. Does anyone know if this is true? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 17, 2004 Report Share Posted September 17, 2004 Penny we have 3 dogs so I'm sure I do have parasites! Gross! Charisse Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 28, 2005 Report Share Posted February 28, 2005 Dear , If you have reason to believe you have parasites you should get a proper stool test done to identify what kind before treating them. However, even if you have parasites when your immune system and digestive system are operating normally it will kill them. A healthy body gets rid of them. You need to ensure you have enough stomach acid, which kills parasites. Coconut oil, garlic, oil of oregano, cloves and other foods and herbs also kill parasites. Bee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 19, 2005 Report Share Posted March 19, 2005 , Go to www.Onibasu.com tick off all the lists including autism treatment and then do your search. The A-M list is full of such treatments because the autistic children have tremendous gut problems, parasites being one of them. I know that black walnut is a favourite for their's for parasites! Parasites > > Does anyone have a successful treatment for parasites that can be used by > lactating women and by children? > > > > > > > > <HTML><!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC " -//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Transitional//EN " > " http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-transitional.dtd " ><BODY><FONT > FACE= " monospace " SIZE= " 3 " > > <B>IMPORTANT ADDRESSES</B> > <UL> > <LI><B><A > HREF= " / " >NATIVE > NUTRITION</A></B> online</LI> > <LI><B><A HREF= " http://onibasu.com/ " >SEARCH</A></B> the entire message > archive with Onibasu</LI> > </UL></FONT> > <PRE><FONT FACE= " monospace " SIZE= " 3 " ><B><A > HREF= " mailto: -owner " >LIST OWNER:</A></B> > Idol > <B>MODERATORS:</B> Heidi Schuppenhauer > Wanita Sears > </FONT></PRE> > </BODY> > </HTML> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 16, 2005 Report Share Posted September 16, 2005 Hi Joycesoos Have you tried Bee's garlic tea? It will assist in eliminating parasites. I would also recommend coffee enemas to help wash them out of the system. If you can afford a few sessions of hydrotherapy, it may also help as it will clean your intestines of anything that is stuck to them. By removing places for parasites to breed you can greatly reduce their numbers. regards Irene > If you can cure candida by diet alone, can you take care of parasites > the same way also? I am super sensitive to supplements, as they cause > massive headaches, or migraines, for 3 days at a time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 17, 2005 Report Share Posted September 17, 2005 Joyce wrote: > If you can cure candida by diet alone, can you take care of parasites > the same way also? I am super sensitive to supplements, as they cause > massive headaches, or migraines, for 3 days at a time. ==>Yes, you can also get rid of parasites with natural foods such as raw crushed garlic, cloves (clove oil), oil of oregano, and many others. Building up the immune system also helps the body handle parasites. However, you should only be concerned about parasites if it has been confirmed by stool tests. Many people become concerned about having parasites needlessly. Even as sick as I was with candida I had no parasites - see " Bee's Personal Candida Story " in the files. The best to you, Bee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 18, 2005 Report Share Posted December 18, 2005 Hi Trish: My son was loaded with parasites- blasto cyctis homonis. He was 3 and we tried for two years to get rid of them. The problem was he couldn't swallow capsules. Over the summer we bought a zapper which kills the parasites in the lymph and blood. My kids zapped 2x/day for a month. I saw an instant improvement with my daughter who's test never showed parasites. Hulda considers parasites to include worms, viruses and bacteria. we can all relate to that. Anyway, I took my kids through the parasite program to kill the parasites in their bowel. It was easy did my almost 5 year old for five days and my almost 8 year old for 8 days as per Hulda's instructions in A Cure for all Cancer's. They then did the kidney cleanse for 6 weeks. It had a dramatic effect of my daughter - I saw nothing with my son. This too was very easy. The liver cleanse was a little harder but after some emotional days with my daughter she is better than ever. Again I saw nothing with my son but I figured the cleanses haven't hurt him. I should probabaly run another comprehensive stool test to see what's going on but $$x2 at christmas and birthday time etc. My kids zapped everyday for about 4 more months and now about once a week. I will repeat the 3 cleanses every six months. Both my kids are pretty much recovered. They have lost their diagnosis but they are still work in progress. My son chelated for three years - my daughter for 2. Hope this helps. Holly > > Hi, My son has yet to start chelation but I thought that before we > started I would take care of any parasite problem that might be there. > Even if it is as small as pinworms. I don't know if many realize or > even want to think of the possibility of parasites living in the human > body. And if allowed to stay there, they get bigger and can live for > years! I noticed my son had pinworms because he had these white bumps > on his bum so I gave him some over the counter pinworm medicine and > the bumps went away. Anyway, I decided to look into natural ways to > get rid of the parasites and found that the herbs wormwood, black > walnut hull and cloves will kill the parasites. So, we went and bought > a liquid herbal mix. I have not done much study on pinworms but you > would think that they would leach off of the food people are eating > and steal some of the nutrients that we are supposed to be getting. > After all, they are parasites, that's what they do. I dunno why i'm > sharing this. Anyway, there may be someone out there that doesn't know > about this or they just may not know how to naturally treat for > parasites. > > Trish > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 19, 2005 Report Share Posted December 19, 2005 Trish, Don't mistakenly call pinworms a *small* problem! We dealt with pinworm infestation this year. For at least 6 months my son would dig in his rear-end frantically. He stopped dead in his tracks at times and groan. He chewed on his fingernails to the point of wearing a hole is the center of his nailbed. He just wasn't happy. All of our ABA therapists said this is just what autistic kids do! So, for a while I blamed therapy for making him so miserable (after all, I hated all the therapy!). ALL of these behaviors ceased when we treated for pinworms. Like you, I was lucky enough to actually see them. Last month I had to trim his nails! I have the ia liquid tincture (mix of wormwood, clove, black walnut) like you describe. We treated initially with prescription meds (hubby insisted). So far, it has worked and I haven't used the herbal mix. I've heard it can be tricky since it is very high phenol. My son hasn't shot up in weight since eliminating the pinworms, but his quality of life improved dramatically. Constipation is greatly reduced... now manageable with magnesium, GSE and No-Fenol (where before we resorted to Fleet enemas). Alleviating the constipation was key to starting chelation. Parasites can also aggravate yeast overgrowth from what I've read. I'm sure you can only benefit from ridding these from the body. When I treated my son and told my story here, I think 3 parents emailed me privately to say they realized my description fit their child: and they found pinworms! It is very common. I called one of our former line therapists who manages a group home housing some adults with Autism. She was one who said many of her adult DD clients dig in their anus... " They just do that. " Well, they treated one for parasites already! Our big sign in labwork was greatly elevated eosinophils (CBC). It was 3 times over the high end of the reference range. I read on- line that is an indicator of allergies or pinworms. This last CBC had eosinophils at zero. I suppose this email could have gone private, but I think you raise an important " heads up " . I still shake my head when I think of all the negative behaviors that disappeared once we treated this problem. Take care, Pam > > > > Hi, My son has yet to start chelation but I thought that before we > > started I would take care of any parasite problem that might be > there. > > Even if it is as small as pinworms. I don't know if many realize > or > > even want to think of the possibility of parasites living in the > human > > body. And if allowed to stay there, they get bigger and can live > for > > years! I noticed my son had pinworms because he had these white > bumps > > on his bum so I gave him some over the counter pinworm medicine > and > > the bumps went away. Anyway, I decided to look into natural ways > to > > get rid of the parasites and found that the herbs wormwood, black > > walnut hull and cloves will kill the parasites. So, we went and > bought > > a liquid herbal mix. I have not done much study on pinworms but > you > > would think that they would leach off of the food people are > eating > > and steal some of the nutrients that we are supposed to be > getting. > > After all, they are parasites, that's what they do. I dunno why > i'm > > sharing this. Anyway, there may be someone out there that doesn't > know > > about this or they just may not know how to naturally treat for > > parasites. > > > > Trish > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 19, 2005 Report Share Posted December 19, 2005 hand sanitizing is the most important thing you can do to prevent reinfection. Use a nail brush, spray with Vodka or grain alchol not isoproply. Keep hands out of nose and mouth and keep the pets out of the house. Holly > > > > > > Hi, My son has yet to start chelation but I thought that before > we > > > started I would take care of any parasite problem that might be > > there. > > > Even if it is as small as pinworms. I don't know if many realize > > or > > > even want to think of the possibility of parasites living in the > > human > > > body. And if allowed to stay there, they get bigger and can live > > for > > > years! I noticed my son had pinworms because he had these white > > bumps > > > on his bum so I gave him some over the counter pinworm medicine > > and > > > the bumps went away. Anyway, I decided to look into natural ways > > to > > > get rid of the parasites and found that the herbs wormwood, > black > > > walnut hull and cloves will kill the parasites. So, we went and > > bought > > > a liquid herbal mix. I have not done much study on pinworms but > > you > > > would think that they would leach off of the food people are > > eating > > > and steal some of the nutrients that we are supposed to be > > getting. > > > After all, they are parasites, that's what they do. I dunno why > > i'm > > > sharing this. Anyway, there may be someone out there that > doesn't > > know > > > about this or they just may not know how to naturally treat for > > > parasites. > > > > > > Trish > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 19, 2005 Report Share Posted December 19, 2005 I just had to jump on this thread because " digging in the pants " part caught my eye. My son does this and it drives me nuts!!! I thought for sure it was bacteria or parasites, but our stool analysis didn't show parasits. I have occasionally seen white spots around his bottom, but they wiped away so I haven't been concerned. Would that be a sign of parasites? We have tried black walnut before, but not wormwood. Where could I buy the herbal tincture? This digging in his pants is DRIVING ME CRAZY. I am so tired of cleaning it up. Thanks for any additional information! > > > > > > > > Hi, My son has yet to start chelation but I thought that > before > > we > > > > started I would take care of any parasite problem that might > be > > > there. > > > > Even if it is as small as pinworms. I don't know if many > realize > > > or > > > > even want to think of the possibility of parasites living in > the > > > human > > > > body. And if allowed to stay there, they get bigger and can > live > > > for > > > > years! I noticed my son had pinworms because he had these > white > > > bumps > > > > on his bum so I gave him some over the counter pinworm > medicine > > > and > > > > the bumps went away. Anyway, I decided to look into natural > ways > > > to > > > > get rid of the parasites and found that the herbs wormwood, > > black > > > > walnut hull and cloves will kill the parasites. So, we went > and > > > bought > > > > a liquid herbal mix. I have not done much study on pinworms > but > > > you > > > > would think that they would leach off of the food people are > > > eating > > > > and steal some of the nutrients that we are supposed to be > > > getting. > > > > After all, they are parasites, that's what they do. I dunno > why > > > i'm > > > > sharing this. Anyway, there may be someone out there that > > doesn't > > > know > > > > about this or they just may not know how to naturally treat > for > > > > parasites. > > > > > > > > Trish > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 19, 2005 Report Share Posted December 19, 2005 Hulda suggests keeping the 3 products(black walnut, wormwood and cloves) seperate until use. So I would buy them individually. SHRC.net has the freshest herbs, etc. and they are super cheap. It is Hulda's son's store. Holly > > > > > > > > > > Hi, My son has yet to start chelation but I thought that > > before > > > we > > > > > started I would take care of any parasite problem that might > > be > > > > there. > > > > > Even if it is as small as pinworms. I don't know if many > > realize > > > > or > > > > > even want to think of the possibility of parasites living in > > the > > > > human > > > > > body. And if allowed to stay there, they get bigger and can > > live > > > > for > > > > > years! I noticed my son had pinworms because he had these > > white > > > > bumps > > > > > on his bum so I gave him some over the counter pinworm > > medicine > > > > and > > > > > the bumps went away. Anyway, I decided to look into natural > > ways > > > > to > > > > > get rid of the parasites and found that the herbs wormwood, > > > black > > > > > walnut hull and cloves will kill the parasites. So, we went > > and > > > > bought > > > > > a liquid herbal mix. I have not done much study on pinworms > > but > > > > you > > > > > would think that they would leach off of the food people are > > > > eating > > > > > and steal some of the nutrients that we are supposed to be > > > > getting. > > > > > After all, they are parasites, that's what they do. I dunno > > why > > > > i'm > > > > > sharing this. Anyway, there may be someone out there that > > > doesn't > > > > know > > > > > about this or they just may not know how to naturally treat > > for > > > > > parasites. > > > > > > > > > > Trish > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 19, 2005 Report Share Posted December 19, 2005 I was told pets do not carry these pinworms. Is that incorrect? I was surprised when the vet told me that one. Pam > > > > > > > > Hi, My son has yet to start chelation but I thought that > before > > we > > > > started I would take care of any parasite problem that might > be > > > there. > > > > Even if it is as small as pinworms. I don't know if many > realize > > > or > > > > even want to think of the possibility of parasites living in > the > > > human > > > > body. And if allowed to stay there, they get bigger and can > live > > > for > > > > years! I noticed my son had pinworms because he had these > white > > > bumps > > > > on his bum so I gave him some over the counter pinworm > medicine > > > and > > > > the bumps went away. Anyway, I decided to look into natural > ways > > > to > > > > get rid of the parasites and found that the herbs wormwood, > > black > > > > walnut hull and cloves will kill the parasites. So, we went > and > > > bought > > > > a liquid herbal mix. I have not done much study on pinworms > but > > > you > > > > would think that they would leach off of the food people are > > > eating > > > > and steal some of the nutrients that we are supposed to be > > > getting. > > > > After all, they are parasites, that's what they do. I dunno > why > > > i'm > > > > sharing this. Anyway, there may be someone out there that > > doesn't > > > know > > > > about this or they just may not know how to naturally treat > for > > > > parasites. > > > > > > > > Trish > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 19, 2005 Report Share Posted December 19, 2005 Parasites are often not detected in the lab; especially if you just used one of those tape sticks (externally) first thing in the AM or a few hours after sleeping. With that test, you have to be lucky enough to have the worms outside the anus, doing their egg laying. I've also heard stool tests are unreliable for detection. Those white spots could be eggs; I never saw eggs (only the worms in his stool. UGH). Have you had a CBC recently? Like I said earlier, those elevated eosinophils were our big medical clue. You could always try the wormwood, black walnut, clove tincture. Someone told me to treat around a full moon? I bought my Hulda product (ia) on-line from a place called RBC in Virginia. I can imagine there are many other versions out there. Pam > > > > > > > > > > Hi, My son has yet to start chelation but I thought that > > before > > > we > > > > > started I would take care of any parasite problem that might > > be > > > > there. > > > > > Even if it is as small as pinworms. I don't know if many > > realize > > > > or > > > > > even want to think of the possibility of parasites living in > > the > > > > human > > > > > body. And if allowed to stay there, they get bigger and can > > live > > > > for > > > > > years! I noticed my son had pinworms because he had these > > white > > > > bumps > > > > > on his bum so I gave him some over the counter pinworm > > medicine > > > > and > > > > > the bumps went away. Anyway, I decided to look into natural > > ways > > > > to > > > > > get rid of the parasites and found that the herbs wormwood, > > > black > > > > > walnut hull and cloves will kill the parasites. So, we went > > and > > > > bought > > > > > a liquid herbal mix. I have not done much study on pinworms > > but > > > > you > > > > > would think that they would leach off of the food people are > > > > eating > > > > > and steal some of the nutrients that we are supposed to be > > > > getting. > > > > > After all, they are parasites, that's what they do. I dunno > > why > > > > i'm > > > > > sharing this. Anyway, there may be someone out there that > > > doesn't > > > > know > > > > > about this or they just may not know how to naturally treat > > for > > > > > parasites. > > > > > > > > > > Trish > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 19, 2005 Report Share Posted December 19, 2005 I bought ia, a Hulda product, which has all 3 combined. It is an alcohol tincture, though. > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi, My son has yet to start chelation but I thought that > > > before > > > > we > > > > > > started I would take care of any parasite problem that > might > > > be > > > > > there. > > > > > > Even if it is as small as pinworms. I don't know if many > > > realize > > > > > or > > > > > > even want to think of the possibility of parasites living > in > > > the > > > > > human > > > > > > body. And if allowed to stay there, they get bigger and > can > > > live > > > > > for > > > > > > years! I noticed my son had pinworms because he had these > > > white > > > > > bumps > > > > > > on his bum so I gave him some over the counter pinworm > > > medicine > > > > > and > > > > > > the bumps went away. Anyway, I decided to look into > natural > > > ways > > > > > to > > > > > > get rid of the parasites and found that the herbs > wormwood, > > > > black > > > > > > walnut hull and cloves will kill the parasites. So, we > went > > > and > > > > > bought > > > > > > a liquid herbal mix. I have not done much study on > pinworms > > > but > > > > > you > > > > > > would think that they would leach off of the food people > are > > > > > eating > > > > > > and steal some of the nutrients that we are supposed to be > > > > > getting. > > > > > > After all, they are parasites, that's what they do. I > dunno > > > why > > > > > i'm > > > > > > sharing this. Anyway, there may be someone out there that > > > > doesn't > > > > > know > > > > > > about this or they just may not know how to naturally > treat > > > for > > > > > > parasites. > > > > > > > > > > > > Trish > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 19, 2005 Report Share Posted December 19, 2005 Wow! So many replies. Well from what i've seen and heard some people just don't think they or their children can have parasites! And like an idiot, i told my son's occupational therapist and she then told his speech therapist who called me and nicely said that if my son still had them he should stay at home until they were gone. And I said, I can guarantee you that 50% of the kids that come in for therapy have pinworms. And she said that i was probably right. It was like pinworms is this terrible infectious disease. I'm sorry....maybe i'm just too darn honest and share a little too much information.(not talking about you all of course) But geese, my hormones are off balance and I haven't gotten anymore progesterone cream and I just get ticked by ignorance! Sorry. lol Anyway, I first treated my son with over the counter pinworm medicine and then I bought the wormwood, black walnut hull tincture. It is a combination. I did not know that it was best to use them separately. I did also read about Hulda and would love to read her book! I don't necessarily like the idea of drugs as far as that stuff goes unless it's just absolutely necessary. And to, it's just so darn hard to keep kids hands clean! You wash their hands and then before you know it they're crawling on the floor, putting stuff in their mouth... It's a never ending cycle. My son is allergic to high phenols as well but I decided that pinworms are worse? I dunno...I just hope that the wormwood and the black walnut hull wipes em out cause the thought of parasites makes me ill.lol EW! LOL Trish please forgive my ranting. I get frustrated with things at times. > > > > > > > > Hi, My son has yet to start chelation but I thought that > before > > we > > > > started I would take care of any parasite problem that might > be > > > there. > > > > Even if it is as small as pinworms. I don't know if many > realize > > > or > > > > even want to think of the possibility of parasites living in > the > > > human > > > > body. And if allowed to stay there, they get bigger and can > live > > > for > > > > years! I noticed my son had pinworms because he had these > white > > > bumps > > > > on his bum so I gave him some over the counter pinworm > medicine > > > and > > > > the bumps went away. Anyway, I decided to look into natural > ways > > > to > > > > get rid of the parasites and found that the herbs wormwood, > > black > > > > walnut hull and cloves will kill the parasites. So, we went > and > > > bought > > > > a liquid herbal mix. I have not done much study on pinworms > but > > > you > > > > would think that they would leach off of the food people are > > > eating > > > > and steal some of the nutrients that we are supposed to be > > > getting. > > > > After all, they are parasites, that's what they do. I dunno > why > > > i'm > > > > sharing this. Anyway, there may be someone out there that > > doesn't > > > know > > > > about this or they just may not know how to naturally treat > for > > > > parasites. > > > > > > > > Trish > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 19, 2005 Report Share Posted December 19, 2005 I was told by a mom whose son had pinworms that when one person in the family is found to have it, everyone should be treated because it's very easily spread within the household, even at school. HTH, Debi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 19, 2005 Report Share Posted December 19, 2005 we treated for parasites and used vermox a prescription pill. just chew one then at 14-21 days later take a second dose. done. pinworms gone. i read hulda clarke's books and they are compelling, but it is pretty heavy duty. i tried it on myself of couse first. she also recommends ozonated olive oil and a few supplements. it got to be too much and the clove wormwood and (i just forgot the last one) just about killed my stomach.. it had alcohol in it and i felt the phenols, so i called my ped and he said he prescribes the vermox often and called it in, sight unseen. doing the tape on the rectum test did not work as annie woke up and fought me every time i tried. my ped agreed that we can just do this 2-3x a year if we want. you might just have vermox called in for the whole family- we did. no side effects easy peasy..teresa c > > > > > > > > > > Hi, My son has yet to start chelation but I thought that > > before > > > we > > > > > started I would take care of any parasite problem that might > > be > > > > there. > > > > > Even if it is as small as pinworms. I don't know if many > > realize > > > > or > > > > > even want to think of the possibility of parasites living in > > the > > > > human > > > > > body. And if allowed to stay there, they get bigger and can > > live > > > > for > > > > > years! I noticed my son had pinworms because he had these > > white > > > > bumps > > > > > on his bum so I gave him some over the counter pinworm > > medicine > > > > and > > > > > the bumps went away. Anyway, I decided to look into natural > > ways > > > > to > > > > > get rid of the parasites and found that the herbs wormwood, > > > black > > > > > walnut hull and cloves will kill the parasites. So, we went > > and > > > > bought > > > > > a liquid herbal mix. I have not done much study on pinworms > > but > > > > you > > > > > would think that they would leach off of the food people are > > > > eating > > > > > and steal some of the nutrients that we are supposed to be > > > > getting. > > > > > After all, they are parasites, that's what they do. I dunno > > why > > > > i'm > > > > > sharing this. Anyway, there may be someone out there that > > > doesn't > > > > know > > > > > about this or they just may not know how to naturally treat > > for > > > > > parasites. > > > > > > > > > > Trish > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 20, 2005 Report Share Posted December 20, 2005 We have eight in our family so the parasite zapper is the coolest thing I've heard of. I heard about it a few days ago from someone on this lists. I figure these children are going to have enough pills to take, we can use the zapper for parasites.... my husband might make one for us, there are directions online. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 20, 2005 Report Share Posted December 20, 2005 I went and bought wormwood last night and my husband and I gave it a try this morning before we were to give it to my son. OH MY GOODNESS! It tasted awful. We new there was no way we would get that in my son. How does the tincture with all 3 combined taste? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi, My son has yet to start chelation but I thought that > > > > before > > > > > we > > > > > > > started I would take care of any parasite problem that > > might > > > > be > > > > > > there. > > > > > > > Even if it is as small as pinworms. I don't know if many > > > > realize > > > > > > or > > > > > > > even want to think of the possibility of parasites > living > > in > > > > the > > > > > > human > > > > > > > body. And if allowed to stay there, they get bigger and > > can > > > > live > > > > > > for > > > > > > > years! I noticed my son had pinworms because he had > these > > > > white > > > > > > bumps > > > > > > > on his bum so I gave him some over the counter pinworm > > > > medicine > > > > > > and > > > > > > > the bumps went away. Anyway, I decided to look into > > natural > > > > ways > > > > > > to > > > > > > > get rid of the parasites and found that the herbs > > wormwood, > > > > > black > > > > > > > walnut hull and cloves will kill the parasites. So, we > > went > > > > and > > > > > > bought > > > > > > > a liquid herbal mix. I have not done much study on > > pinworms > > > > but > > > > > > you > > > > > > > would think that they would leach off of the food people > > are > > > > > > eating > > > > > > > and steal some of the nutrients that we are supposed to > be > > > > > > getting. > > > > > > > After all, they are parasites, that's what they do. I > > dunno > > > > why > > > > > > i'm > > > > > > > sharing this. Anyway, there may be someone out there > that > > > > > doesn't > > > > > > know > > > > > > > about this or they just may not know how to naturally > > treat > > > > for > > > > > > > parasites. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Trish > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 20, 2005 Report Share Posted December 20, 2005 Pam, I think the most reliable way to diagnose pinworms, as you mentioned, is the use of tape applied to the perianal skin. Actually, this is where eggs are deposited and it is not necessary to see the worm to make the diagnosis. I doubt seriously that pinworm eggs would be visible in stool, as they are not deposited there in the first place and they are vanishingly small. Even a clump of 1000 eggs (not found in nature) would be less than a millimeter or two across. By the way, altho you were tipped off by the CBC, pinworm is the one parasitic worm that does not usually cause eosinophilia. Simplest approach: if you see digging, use the tape or try an empiric dose of Vermox. Jim ________________________________ From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of noaholiviaian Sent: Monday, December 19, 2005 2:00 PM Subject: [ ] Re: Parasites Parasites are often not detected in the lab; especially if you just used one of those tape sticks (externally) first thing in the AM or a few hours after sleeping. With that test, you have to be lucky enough to have the worms outside the anus, doing their egg laying. I've also heard stool tests are unreliable for detection. Those white spots could be eggs; I never saw eggs (only the worms in his stool. UGH). Have you had a CBC recently? Like I said earlier, those elevated eosinophils were our big medical clue. You could always try the wormwood, black walnut, clove tincture. Someone told me to treat around a full moon? I bought my Hulda product (ia) on-line from a place called RBC in Virginia. I can imagine there are many other versions out there. Pam > > > > > > > > > > Hi, My son has yet to start chelation but I thought that > > before > > > we > > > > > started I would take care of any parasite problem that might > > be > > > > there. > > > > > Even if it is as small as pinworms. I don't know if many > > realize > > > > or > > > > > even want to think of the possibility of parasites living in > > the > > > > human > > > > > body. And if allowed to stay there, they get bigger and can > > live > > > > for > > > > > years! I noticed my son had pinworms because he had these > > white > > > > bumps > > > > > on his bum so I gave him some over the counter pinworm > > medicine > > > > and > > > > > the bumps went away. Anyway, I decided to look into natural > > ways > > > > to > > > > > get rid of the parasites and found that the herbs wormwood, > > > black > > > > > walnut hull and cloves will kill the parasites. So, we went > > and > > > > bought > > > > > a liquid herbal mix. I have not done much study on pinworms > > but > > > > you > > > > > would think that they would leach off of the food people are > > > > eating > > > > > and steal some of the nutrients that we are supposed to be > > > > getting. > > > > > After all, they are parasites, that's what they do. I dunno > > why > > > > i'm > > > > > sharing this. Anyway, there may be someone out there that > > > doesn't > > > > know > > > > > about this or they just may not know how to naturally treat > > for > > > > > parasites. > > > > > > > > > > Trish > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ======================================================= Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 20, 2005 Report Share Posted December 20, 2005 > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi, My son has yet to start chelation but I thought that > > > before > > > > we > > > > > > started I would take care of any parasite problem that > might > > > be > > > > > there. > > > > > > Even if it is as small as pinworms. I don't know if many > > > realize > > > > > or > > > > > > even want to think of the possibility of parasites living > in > > > the > > > > > human > > > > > > body. And if allowed to stay there, they get bigger and > can > > > live > > > > > for > > > > > > years! I noticed my son had pinworms because he had these > > > white > > > > > bumps > > > > > > on his bum so I gave him some over the counter pinworm > > > medicine > > > > > and > > > > > > the bumps went away. Anyway, I decided to look into > natural > > > ways > > > > > to > > > > > > get rid of the parasites and found that the herbs > wormwood, > > > > black > > > > > > walnut hull and cloves will kill the parasites. So, we > went > > > and > > > > > bought > > > > > > a liquid herbal mix. I have not done much study on > pinworms > > > but > > > > > you > > > > > > would think that they would leach off of the food people > are > > > > > eating > > > > > > and steal some of the nutrients that we are supposed to be > > > > > getting. > > > > > > After all, they are parasites, that's what they do. I > dunno > > > why > > > > > i'm > > > > > > sharing this. Anyway, there may be someone out there that > > > > doesn't > > > > > know > > > > > > about this or they just may not know how to naturally > treat > > > for > > > > > > parasites. > > > > > > > > > > > > Trish > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ======================================================= > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 20, 2005 Report Share Posted December 20, 2005 Vicky, the adult female migrates to the anus to lay eggs. This usually happens at night, as someone has mentioned here, and worms may still be outside in the morning, so it is possible to see them. They are small, less than half an inch and very thin, but often they are moving and therefore a little easier to see. I'm not aware of any OTC medicine that is truly effective, but Vermox works almost every time. Jim ________________________________ From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of veronicamadigan Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2005 3:58 PM Subject: [ ] Re: Parasites > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi, My son has yet to start chelation but I thought that > > > before > > > > we > > > > > > started I would take care of any parasite problem that > might > > > be > > > > > there. > > > > > > Even if it is as small as pinworms. I don't know if many > > > realize > > > > > or > > > > > > even want to think of the possibility of parasites living > in > > > the > > > > > human > > > > > > body. And if allowed to stay there, they get bigger and > can > > > live > > > > > for > > > > > > years! I noticed my son had pinworms because he had these > > > white > > > > > bumps > > > > > > on his bum so I gave him some over the counter pinworm > > > medicine > > > > > and > > > > > > the bumps went away. Anyway, I decided to look into > natural > > > ways > > > > > to > > > > > > get rid of the parasites and found that the herbs > wormwood, > > > > black > > > > > > walnut hull and cloves will kill the parasites. So, we > went > > > and > > > > > bought > > > > > > a liquid herbal mix. I have not done much study on > pinworms > > > but > > > > > you > > > > > > would think that they would leach off of the food people > are > > > > > eating > > > > > > and steal some of the nutrients that we are supposed to be > > > > > getting. > > > > > > After all, they are parasites, that's what they do. I > dunno > > > why > > > > > i'm > > > > > > sharing this. Anyway, there may be someone out there that > > > > doesn't > > > > > know > > > > > > about this or they just may not know how to naturally > treat > > > for > > > > > > parasites. > > > > > > > > > > > > Trish > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ======================================================= > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 20, 2005 Report Share Posted December 20, 2005 The wormwood, black walnut hull tincture tastes just as bad. Get this, at first my son couldn't stand it. Now, he opens his mouth for it! Now, the first couple of times, i had to make him take it. But that's the same way it happened with the oil of oregano too. It is horrid tasting and smells bad but atleast it's not drugs. I hope it works because it sure should as bad as it tastes and smells. You would think the worms would leave after getting a dose of that! LOL And what is this parasite zapper? Is there a website? Oh, and one more thing. It's probably a good idea to always treat for pinworms and other parasites because how many kids at daycares, schools have then and their parents not even know it? And the fact that the pinworms are so easily spread... ew Trish > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi, My son has yet to start chelation but I thought that > > > > before > > > > > we > > > > > > > started I would take care of any parasite problem that > > might > > > > be > > > > > > there. > > > > > > > Even if it is as small as pinworms. I don't know if many > > > > realize > > > > > > or > > > > > > > even want to think of the possibility of parasites living > > in > > > > the > > > > > > human > > > > > > > body. And if allowed to stay there, they get bigger and > > can > > > > live > > > > > > for > > > > > > > years! I noticed my son had pinworms because he had these > > > > white > > > > > > bumps > > > > > > > on his bum so I gave him some over the counter pinworm > > > > medicine > > > > > > and > > > > > > > the bumps went away. Anyway, I decided to look into > > natural > > > > ways > > > > > > to > > > > > > > get rid of the parasites and found that the herbs > > wormwood, > > > > > black > > > > > > > walnut hull and cloves will kill the parasites. So, we > > went > > > > and > > > > > > bought > > > > > > > a liquid herbal mix. I have not done much study on > > pinworms > > > > but > > > > > > you > > > > > > > would think that they would leach off of the food people > > are > > > > > > eating > > > > > > > and steal some of the nutrients that we are supposed to > be > > > > > > getting. > > > > > > > After all, they are parasites, that's what they do. I > > dunno > > > > why > > > > > > i'm > > > > > > > sharing this. Anyway, there may be someone out there that > > > > > doesn't > > > > > > know > > > > > > > about this or they just may not know how to naturally > > treat > > > > for > > > > > > > parasites. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Trish > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ======================================================= > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 21, 2005 Report Share Posted December 21, 2005 bestzapper.com Called the Autozapp It works and is cheaper than other ones that I'm not sure work. Holly > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi, My son has yet to start chelation but I thought > that > > > > > before > > > > > > we > > > > > > > > started I would take care of any parasite problem that > > > might > > > > > be > > > > > > > there. > > > > > > > > Even if it is as small as pinworms. I don't know if > many > > > > > realize > > > > > > > or > > > > > > > > even want to think of the possibility of parasites > living > > > in > > > > > the > > > > > > > human > > > > > > > > body. And if allowed to stay there, they get bigger > and > > > can > > > > > live > > > > > > > for > > > > > > > > years! I noticed my son had pinworms because he had > these > > > > > white > > > > > > > bumps > > > > > > > > on his bum so I gave him some over the counter pinworm > > > > > medicine > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > the bumps went away. Anyway, I decided to look into > > > natural > > > > > ways > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > get rid of the parasites and found that the herbs > > > wormwood, > > > > > > black > > > > > > > > walnut hull and cloves will kill the parasites. So, we > > > went > > > > > and > > > > > > > bought > > > > > > > > a liquid herbal mix. I have not done much study on > > > pinworms > > > > > but > > > > > > > you > > > > > > > > would think that they would leach off of the food > people > > > are > > > > > > > eating > > > > > > > > and steal some of the nutrients that we are supposed > to > > be > > > > > > > getting. > > > > > > > > After all, they are parasites, that's what they do. I > > > dunno > > > > > why > > > > > > > i'm > > > > > > > > sharing this. Anyway, there may be someone out there > that > > > > > > doesn't > > > > > > > know > > > > > > > > about this or they just may not know how to naturally > > > treat > > > > > for > > > > > > > > parasites. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Trish > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ======================================================= > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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