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In message <hv2tnv+eg3keGroups> you wrote:

> From what I have read it is to be like a apple cider with a vinegar smell.

Yes, , that is a good description. Depending on length of fermentation

the brew can also turn out more or less acidic - it depends really what

flavour you want it to be for yourself.

I've never ever used ph strips. IMO, they are a waste of money.

My tastebuds have proofed to be utterly adequate for the job of tasting

and determining when a brew is ready for harvesting.

> So, now my own batch I used black tea and it is of coarse dark in color

> and fizzing away like it has a heart of it's own. Dr. enstein would

> be proud.

Woah! I love a bit of imagination! :-) 's enstein brew will soon

be famous in the neighbourhood!? ;-)

> I figure that everyone has their own recipes.

Although I try out different teas (camellia sinensis) white, green, black

and oolong I mostly do a tea mix with predominantly green teas, and have =

found Earl Grey imparting an especially delicious fruity flavour in most of

my mixes.

Bubbles are always a sign of vigorous yeast activity which is good. It is,

however, necessary to curtail the yeast (get rid of the yeast deposit on the

bottom of your fermentation jar) at bottling time.

I am a batch brewer, so have no experience with continuous brewing.

I imagine, even with continuous brewing - after drawing off KT, you

would sometimes have to 'weed out' the yeast on the bottom of the container.

In warm weather, yeast can romp away and spoil the flavour of your KT -

unless you are into yeasty-sour ale flavours. ;-)

Your brew sounds delectable. May it remain that way!

kombuchaly,

Margret in UK Kombucha-land;-)

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In message <hv2tnv+eg3keGroups> you wrote:

> From what I have read it is to be like a apple cider with a vinegar smell.

Yes, , that is a good description. Depending on length of fermentation

the brew can also turn out more or less acidic - it depends really what

flavour you want it to be for yourself.

I've never ever used ph strips. IMO, they are a waste of money.

My tastebuds have proofed to be utterly adequate for the job of tasting

and determining when a brew is ready for harvesting.

> So, now my own batch I used black tea and it is of coarse dark in color

> and fizzing away like it has a heart of it's own. Dr. enstein would

> be proud.

Woah! I love a bit of imagination! :-) 's enstein brew will soon

be famous in the neighbourhood!? ;-)

> I figure that everyone has their own recipes.

Although I try out different teas (camellia sinensis) white, green, black

and oolong I mostly do a tea mix with predominantly green teas, and have =

found Earl Grey imparting an especially delicious fruity flavour in most of

my mixes.

Bubbles are always a sign of vigorous yeast activity which is good. It is,

however, necessary to curtail the yeast (get rid of the yeast deposit on the

bottom of your fermentation jar) at bottling time.

I am a batch brewer, so have no experience with continuous brewing.

I imagine, even with continuous brewing - after drawing off KT, you

would sometimes have to 'weed out' the yeast on the bottom of the container.

In warm weather, yeast can romp away and spoil the flavour of your KT -

unless you are into yeasty-sour ale flavours. ;-)

Your brew sounds delectable. May it remain that way!

kombuchaly,

Margret in UK Kombucha-land;-)

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I'd say your tongue would be the best pH tester.

I haven't a clue what pH it ought to be (Pick a number)

However ...

What on earth is the point of testing to achieve a pH of, say, 3.5 when your

palate shrivels and your teeth curl at pH 4.5?

" The defence rests yer 'Onner. "

.

(UK)

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From: rmetz40 <metzrbh3@...>

kombucha tea

Sent: Sun, 13 June, 2010 16:33:19

Subject: Another Newby Question

First I wanted to say Thank You to all of the great responces and wonderful

greetings that I have received.

Also, I am so lucky to have found such a mix of info and food for thought, from

the group.

My question is, for a newby KT brewer is testing the KT's " PH " the best way to

achieve what KT is really suppost to taste like? From what I have read it is to

be like a apple cider with a vinegar smell. My first batch did taste like this

and it was a wonderful light golden color. I received my tea with my scoby. So,

now my own batch I used black tea and it is of coarse dark in color and fizzing

away like it has a heart of it's own. Dr. enstein would be proud.

I figure that everyone has their own recipes. And until a newby gains a little

knowledge of what it should taste like. Is testing the ph the best way to know

for sure?

Also, I am trying to work out making mine with a continuous brew of KT. I have

it in a 2 1/2 gallon wide mouth jar. Do any of you have a favorite recipe you

might want to share? Right know I have black tea and green. And so far I liked

the lighter green tea flavor, I cheated and gave my black tea a small test

yesterday and it still has around five days to go. But that thing is making

bubbles like crazy.

Again, thank you all in advance.

Well Wishes,

Metz

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I'd say your tongue would be the best pH tester.

I haven't a clue what pH it ought to be (Pick a number)

However ...

What on earth is the point of testing to achieve a pH of, say, 3.5 when your

palate shrivels and your teeth curl at pH 4.5?

" The defence rests yer 'Onner. "

.

(UK)

________________________________

From: rmetz40 <metzrbh3@...>

kombucha tea

Sent: Sun, 13 June, 2010 16:33:19

Subject: Another Newby Question

First I wanted to say Thank You to all of the great responces and wonderful

greetings that I have received.

Also, I am so lucky to have found such a mix of info and food for thought, from

the group.

My question is, for a newby KT brewer is testing the KT's " PH " the best way to

achieve what KT is really suppost to taste like? From what I have read it is to

be like a apple cider with a vinegar smell. My first batch did taste like this

and it was a wonderful light golden color. I received my tea with my scoby. So,

now my own batch I used black tea and it is of coarse dark in color and fizzing

away like it has a heart of it's own. Dr. enstein would be proud.

I figure that everyone has their own recipes. And until a newby gains a little

knowledge of what it should taste like. Is testing the ph the best way to know

for sure?

Also, I am trying to work out making mine with a continuous brew of KT. I have

it in a 2 1/2 gallon wide mouth jar. Do any of you have a favorite recipe you

might want to share? Right know I have black tea and green. And so far I liked

the lighter green tea flavor, I cheated and gave my black tea a small test

yesterday and it still has around five days to go. But that thing is making

bubbles like crazy.

Again, thank you all in advance.

Well Wishes,

Metz

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Il giorno dom, 13/06/2010 alle 19.43 +0000, Kane ha scritto:

> I'd say your tongue would be the best pH tester.

> I haven't a clue what pH it ought to be (Pick a number)

> However ...

> What on earth is the point of testing to achieve a pH of, say, 3.5 when your

palate shrivels and your teeth curl at pH 4.5?

Not with a weak acid

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Il giorno dom, 13/06/2010 alle 19.43 +0000, Kane ha scritto:

> I'd say your tongue would be the best pH tester.

> I haven't a clue what pH it ought to be (Pick a number)

> However ...

> What on earth is the point of testing to achieve a pH of, say, 3.5 when your

palate shrivels and your teeth curl at pH 4.5?

Not with a weak acid

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o

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Appreciate the point . I figured my taste could figure it out. But, surely

there is a ph number that has to be reached with all of the products on the

market. I just didn't know if there was a standard that these companies stick

to. Is there not a healthy point with KT to reach so it works better or does it

not matter? Once the scoby is introduced it just becomes the magical beverage? I

mean " time " is usually the thing that makes things better, but if you apply time

to KT you get vinegar.

Thanks again for all of the helpful info and great conversation.

Well Wishes

>

> First I wanted to say Thank You to all of the great responces and wonderful

greetings that I have received.

> Also, I am so lucky to have found such a mix of info and food for thought,

from the group.

>

> My question is, for a newby KT brewer is testing the KT's " PH " the best way to

achieve what KT is really suppost to taste like? From what I have read it is to

be like a apple cider with a vinegar smell. My first batch did taste like this

and it was a wonderful light golden color. I received my tea with my scoby. So,

now my own batch I used black tea and it is of coarse dark in color and fizzing

away like it has a heart of it's own. Dr. enstein would be proud.

> I figure that everyone has their own recipes. And until a newby gains a little

knowledge of what it should taste like. Is testing the ph the best way to know

for sure?

>

> Also, I am trying to work out making mine with a continuous brew of KT. I have

it in a 2 1/2 gallon wide mouth jar. Do any of you have a favorite recipe you

might want to share? Right know I have black tea and green. And so far I liked

the lighter green tea flavor, I cheated and gave my black tea a small test

yesterday and it still has around five days to go. But that thing is making

bubbles like crazy.

>

> Again, thank you all in advance.

>

> Well Wishes,

> Metz

>

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Appreciate the point . I figured my taste could figure it out. But, surely

there is a ph number that has to be reached with all of the products on the

market. I just didn't know if there was a standard that these companies stick

to. Is there not a healthy point with KT to reach so it works better or does it

not matter? Once the scoby is introduced it just becomes the magical beverage? I

mean " time " is usually the thing that makes things better, but if you apply time

to KT you get vinegar.

Thanks again for all of the helpful info and great conversation.

Well Wishes

>

> First I wanted to say Thank You to all of the great responces and wonderful

greetings that I have received.

> Also, I am so lucky to have found such a mix of info and food for thought,

from the group.

>

> My question is, for a newby KT brewer is testing the KT's " PH " the best way to

achieve what KT is really suppost to taste like? From what I have read it is to

be like a apple cider with a vinegar smell. My first batch did taste like this

and it was a wonderful light golden color. I received my tea with my scoby. So,

now my own batch I used black tea and it is of coarse dark in color and fizzing

away like it has a heart of it's own. Dr. enstein would be proud.

> I figure that everyone has their own recipes. And until a newby gains a little

knowledge of what it should taste like. Is testing the ph the best way to know

for sure?

>

> Also, I am trying to work out making mine with a continuous brew of KT. I have

it in a 2 1/2 gallon wide mouth jar. Do any of you have a favorite recipe you

might want to share? Right know I have black tea and green. And so far I liked

the lighter green tea flavor, I cheated and gave my black tea a small test

yesterday and it still has around five days to go. But that thing is making

bubbles like crazy.

>

> Again, thank you all in advance.

>

> Well Wishes,

> Metz

>

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It matters not one tittle or jot, the case still holds ....

Why brew to 11.5pH if you cannot stand 9.00.

I KNOW I'm picking the alkaline pH side of the scale (which KT is not) .

The point is ... Why bother with a specific pH if it gets you a taste your

tongue cannot enjoy and you personally cannot abide the taste of? Taste being

entirely personal.

.

(UK)

From: o Sebastiano <roberto.sebastiano@...>

kombucha tea

Sent: Sun, 13 June, 2010 21:57:00

Subject: Re: Another Newby Question

Il giorno dom, 13/06/2010 alle 19.43 +0000, Kane ha scritto:

> I'd say your tongue would be the best pH tester.

> I haven't a clue what pH it ought to be (Pick a number)

> However ...

> What on earth is the point of testing to achieve a pH of, say, 3.5 when your

palate shrivels and your teeth curl at pH 4.5?

Not with a weak acid

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o

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KT needs that PH for the colony to remain healthy.

Otherwise you would get mold on it.

There is no KT with a 7 PH

That's kombucha

Bye,

o

Il giorno dom, 13/06/2010 alle 21.11 +0000, Kane ha scritto:

> It matters not one tittle or jot, the case still holds ....

> Why brew to 11.5pH if you cannot stand 9.00.

> I KNOW I'm picking the alkaline pH side of the scale (which KT is not) .

> The point is ... Why bother with a specific pH if it gets you a taste your

tongue cannot enjoy and you personally cannot abide the taste of? Taste being

entirely personal.

> .

> (UK)

>

>

> From: o Sebastiano <roberto.sebastiano@...>

> kombucha tea

> Sent: Sun, 13 June, 2010 21:57:00

> Subject: Re: Another Newby Question

>

> Il giorno dom, 13/06/2010 alle 19.43 +0000, Kane ha scritto:

> > I'd say your tongue would be the best pH tester.

> > I haven't a clue what pH it ought to be (Pick a number)

> > However ...

> > What on earth is the point of testing to achieve a pH of, say, 3.5 when your

palate shrivels and your teeth curl at pH 4.5?

>

> Not with a weak acid

>

> --

> o

>

>

>

> ------------------------------------

>

>

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KT needs that PH for the colony to remain healthy.

Otherwise you would get mold on it.

There is no KT with a 7 PH

That's kombucha

Bye,

o

Il giorno dom, 13/06/2010 alle 21.11 +0000, Kane ha scritto:

> It matters not one tittle or jot, the case still holds ....

> Why brew to 11.5pH if you cannot stand 9.00.

> I KNOW I'm picking the alkaline pH side of the scale (which KT is not) .

> The point is ... Why bother with a specific pH if it gets you a taste your

tongue cannot enjoy and you personally cannot abide the taste of? Taste being

entirely personal.

> .

> (UK)

>

>

> From: o Sebastiano <roberto.sebastiano@...>

> kombucha tea

> Sent: Sun, 13 June, 2010 21:57:00

> Subject: Re: Another Newby Question

>

> Il giorno dom, 13/06/2010 alle 19.43 +0000, Kane ha scritto:

> > I'd say your tongue would be the best pH tester.

> > I haven't a clue what pH it ought to be (Pick a number)

> > However ...

> > What on earth is the point of testing to achieve a pH of, say, 3.5 when your

palate shrivels and your teeth curl at pH 4.5?

>

> Not with a weak acid

>

> --

> o

>

>

>

> ------------------------------------

>

>

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I give up. Can't get the point over.

Put it down to the language barrier.

.

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From: o Sebastiano

Sent: Sun, 13 June, 2010 22:19:23

KT needs that PH for the colony to remain healthy.

Otherwise you would get mold on it.

There is no KT with a 7 PH

That's kombucha

Bye,

o

Il giorno dom, 13/06/2010 alle 21.11 +0000, Kane ha scritto:

> It matters not one tittle or jot, the case still holds ....

> Why brew to 11.5pH if you cannot stand 9.00.

> I KNOW I'm picking the alkaline pH side of the scale (which KT is not) .

> The point is ... Why bother with a specific pH if it gets you a taste your

tongue cannot enjoy and you personally cannot abide the taste of? Taste being

entirely personal.

> .

> (UK)

>

>

> From: o Sebastiano <roberto.sebastiano@...>

> kombucha tea

> Sent: Sun, 13 June, 2010 21:57:00

> Subject: Re: Another Newby Question

>

> Il giorno dom, 13/06/2010 alle 19.43 +0000, Kane ha scritto:

> > I'd say your tongue would be the best pH tester.

> > I haven't a clue what pH it ought to be (Pick a number)

> > However ...

> > What on earth is the point of testing to achieve a pH of, say, 3.5 when your

palate shrivels and your teeth curl at pH 4.5?

>

> Not with a weak acid

>

> --

> o

>

>

>

> ------------------------------------

>

>

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I give up. Can't get the point over.

Put it down to the language barrier.

.

________________________________

From: o Sebastiano

Sent: Sun, 13 June, 2010 22:19:23

KT needs that PH for the colony to remain healthy.

Otherwise you would get mold on it.

There is no KT with a 7 PH

That's kombucha

Bye,

o

Il giorno dom, 13/06/2010 alle 21.11 +0000, Kane ha scritto:

> It matters not one tittle or jot, the case still holds ....

> Why brew to 11.5pH if you cannot stand 9.00.

> I KNOW I'm picking the alkaline pH side of the scale (which KT is not) .

> The point is ... Why bother with a specific pH if it gets you a taste your

tongue cannot enjoy and you personally cannot abide the taste of? Taste being

entirely personal.

> .

> (UK)

>

>

> From: o Sebastiano <roberto.sebastiano@...>

> kombucha tea

> Sent: Sun, 13 June, 2010 21:57:00

> Subject: Re: Another Newby Question

>

> Il giorno dom, 13/06/2010 alle 19.43 +0000, Kane ha scritto:

> > I'd say your tongue would be the best pH tester.

> > I haven't a clue what pH it ought to be (Pick a number)

> > However ...

> > What on earth is the point of testing to achieve a pH of, say, 3.5 when your

palate shrivels and your teeth curl at pH 4.5?

>

> Not with a weak acid

>

> --

> o

>

>

>

> ------------------------------------

>

>

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I get your point, . What I think I'm hearing is what's the point of

brewing to a specific PH you've been TOLD to brew it too if you can't stand the

taste of it.

I have a friend who said she liked her KT years ago brewed extremely tart, and

took it like a shot. I got the shivers just thinking of it! I like it at that

neither tart nor sweet stage, and then love to flavour it. (Though mine is a

bit on the yeasty side again, so I'll be cleaning out my brewing container and

taking the oldest scoby off the bottom.)

I'm a firm believer that the taste we like is the one our body needs. :)

Warmly,

Velma

kombucha tea

From: brainnake@...

Date: Sun, 13 Jun 2010 22:32:17 +0000

Subject: Re: Another Newby Question

I give up. Can't get the point over.

Put it down to the language barrier.

.

________________________________

From: o Sebastiano

Sent: Sun, 13 June, 2010 22:19:23

KT needs that PH for the colony to remain healthy.

Otherwise you would get mold on it.

There is no KT with a 7 PH

That's kombucha

Bye,

o

Il giorno dom, 13/06/2010 alle 21.11 +0000, Kane ha scritto:

> It matters not one tittle or jot, the case still holds ....

> Why brew to 11.5pH if you cannot stand 9.00.

> I KNOW I'm picking the alkaline pH side of the scale (which KT is not) .

> The point is ... Why bother with a specific pH if it gets you a taste your

tongue cannot enjoy and you personally cannot abide the taste of? Taste being

entirely personal.

> .

> (UK)

>

>

> From: o Sebastiano <roberto.sebastiano@...>

> kombucha tea

> Sent: Sun, 13 June, 2010 21:57:00

> Subject: Re: Another Newby Question

>

> Il giorno dom, 13/06/2010 alle 19.43 +0000, Kane ha scritto:

> > I'd say your tongue would be the best pH tester.

> > I haven't a clue what pH it ought to be (Pick a number)

> > However ...

> > What on earth is the point of testing to achieve a pH of, say, 3.5 when your

palate shrivels and your teeth curl at pH 4.5?

>

> Not with a weak acid

>

> --

> o

>

>

>

> ------------------------------------

>

>

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I get your point, . What I think I'm hearing is what's the point of

brewing to a specific PH you've been TOLD to brew it too if you can't stand the

taste of it.

I have a friend who said she liked her KT years ago brewed extremely tart, and

took it like a shot. I got the shivers just thinking of it! I like it at that

neither tart nor sweet stage, and then love to flavour it. (Though mine is a

bit on the yeasty side again, so I'll be cleaning out my brewing container and

taking the oldest scoby off the bottom.)

I'm a firm believer that the taste we like is the one our body needs. :)

Warmly,

Velma

kombucha tea

From: brainnake@...

Date: Sun, 13 Jun 2010 22:32:17 +0000

Subject: Re: Another Newby Question

I give up. Can't get the point over.

Put it down to the language barrier.

.

________________________________

From: o Sebastiano

Sent: Sun, 13 June, 2010 22:19:23

KT needs that PH for the colony to remain healthy.

Otherwise you would get mold on it.

There is no KT with a 7 PH

That's kombucha

Bye,

o

Il giorno dom, 13/06/2010 alle 21.11 +0000, Kane ha scritto:

> It matters not one tittle or jot, the case still holds ....

> Why brew to 11.5pH if you cannot stand 9.00.

> I KNOW I'm picking the alkaline pH side of the scale (which KT is not) .

> The point is ... Why bother with a specific pH if it gets you a taste your

tongue cannot enjoy and you personally cannot abide the taste of? Taste being

entirely personal.

> .

> (UK)

>

>

> From: o Sebastiano <roberto.sebastiano@...>

> kombucha tea

> Sent: Sun, 13 June, 2010 21:57:00

> Subject: Re: Another Newby Question

>

> Il giorno dom, 13/06/2010 alle 19.43 +0000, Kane ha scritto:

> > I'd say your tongue would be the best pH tester.

> > I haven't a clue what pH it ought to be (Pick a number)

> > However ...

> > What on earth is the point of testing to achieve a pH of, say, 3.5 when your

palate shrivels and your teeth curl at pH 4.5?

>

> Not with a weak acid

>

> --

> o

>

>

>

> ------------------------------------

>

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Exactly!

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(UK)

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From: Velma Gallant

Sent: Mon, 14 June, 2010 2:05:35

I get your point, . What I think I'm hearing is what's the point of

brewing to a specific PH you've been TOLD to brew it too if you can't stand the

taste of it.

I have a friend who said she liked her KT years ago brewed extremely tart, and

took it like a shot. I got the shivers just thinking of it! I like it at that

neither tart nor sweet stage, and then love to flavour it. (Though mine is a

bit on the yeasty side again, so I'll be cleaning out my brewing container and

taking the oldest scoby off the bottom.)

I'm a firm believer that the taste we like is the one our body needs. :)

Warmly,

Velma

I give up. Can't get the point over.

Put it down to the language barrier.

.

________________________________

From: o Sebastiano

Sent: Sun, 13 June, 2010 22:19:23

KT needs that PH for the colony to remain healthy.

Otherwise you would get mold on it.

There is no KT with a 7 PH

That's kombucha

Bye,

o

Il giorno dom, 13/06/2010 alle 21.11 +0000, Kane ha scritto:

> It matters not one tittle or jot, the case still holds ....

> Why brew to 11.5pH if you cannot stand 9.00.

> I KNOW I'm picking the alkaline pH side of the scale (which KT is not) .

> The point is ... Why bother with a specific pH if it gets you a taste your

tongue cannot enjoy and you personally cannot abide the taste of? Taste being

entirely personal.

> .

> (UK)

>

>

> From: o Sebastiano <roberto.sebastiano@...>

> kombucha tea

> Sent: Sun, 13 June, 2010 21:57:00

> Subject: Re: Another Newby Question

>

> Il giorno dom, 13/06/2010 alle 19.43 +0000, Kane ha scritto:

> > I'd say your tongue would be the best pH tester.

> > I haven't a clue what pH it ought to be (Pick a number)

> > However ...

> > What on earth is the point of testing to achieve a pH of, say, 3.5 when your

palate shrivels and your teeth curl at pH 4.5?

>

> Not with a weak acid

>

> --

> o

>

>

>

> ------------------------------------

>

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In message <28568.62392.qm@...> you wrote:

> Exactly!

> .

> I'm a firm believer that the taste we like is the one our body needs. :)

>

> Warmly,

>

> Velma

....and as I give my thumbs up, we form a powerful Threesome -

by the word of 2 or 3 witnesses shall everything be established. :-)

(2 Corinthians 13:1b)

So, we got a case!

I'm trying to imagine the Kombucha ancients

messing about with litmus paper! ;-)

simply kombuchaly

Margret:-)

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