Theory about iron....Marta and nurses...Whatcha think? (and anyone else)

[Guest guest]

Here is what i found on the syndrome I had when Dr K did surgery. The path

report that was suspicious for Gastric lymphoma eventuall was given this

diagnosis:

Ménétrier's disease causes giant folds of tissue to grow in the wall of the

stomach. The tissue may be inflamed and may contain ulcers. The disease also

causes glands in the stomach to waste away and causes the body to lose fluid

containing a protein called albumin. Ménétrier's disease increases a person's

risk of stomach cancer. People who have this rare, chronic disease are usually

men between ages 30 and 60. The cause of the disease is unknown.

Ménétrier's disease is also called giant hypertrophic gastritis, protein

losing gasteropathy, or hypertrophic gastropathy.

So I was reading the info Marta sent on iron absorption and found this.....

The second change occurs in the duodenum.

The duodenum is bicarbonate-rich, and alkaline.

In the alkaline environment

heme is absorbed directly by the mucosal cells. Within the cells, the iron

dissociates from it.

free iron (II) ions are oxidized to iron (III), which is taken up by the

mucosal cells in substantial amounts under all circumstances of nutritional iron

status.

my understanding is that the giant folds affected the stomach and the Unused

potion of my stomach. So possibly the iron malabsorption is caused in part or

even worsened by the syndrome? Maybe the mucosal cells are " damaged' and

iron might never be absorbed normally as prior to my RNY?

in Bama

VBG 1982 (lost from 433lbs to 270's)

VBG to RNY1996 revision(Lost from 343 to 299)

RNY to DS revision Dec 2002 -down 118 lbs so far (377.7 to 259.4 and still

going

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Many thanks to Dr. K willing to take on a 3rd timer....LOL

[Guest guest]

So possibly the iron malabsorption is caused in part or

> even worsened by the syndrome? Maybe the mucosal cells

are " damaged' and

> iron might never be absorbed normally as prior to my RNY?

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I suppose that is possible. STill I wouldnt jump to conclusions jsut

yet since the absorption occurs in the duodenum

Marta

[Guest guest]

So possibly the iron malabsorption is caused in part or

> even worsened by the syndrome? Maybe the mucosal cells

are " damaged' and

> iron might never be absorbed normally as prior to my RNY?

*********

I suppose that is possible. STill I wouldnt jump to conclusions jsut

yet since the absorption occurs in the duodenum

Marta

[Guest guest]

Ménétrier's disease increases a person's

> risk of stomach cancer.

Mel...my dad was having problems with his stomach...felt seasick all

the time. After a couple months he started going to the doctor to

try to find the problem. After a Scope the doctor came out and told

mom... " It looks like Stomach Cancer " . However, The Path results

came back Menetriers Disease....The Doctor was surprised and we felt

like we had received a gift. Doctor said the only way to get rid of

the seasickness was to remove the stomach...Which he did...That time

(2 weeks later) the Path came back " Cancer " and it had already

spread to other areas. So removal of the stomach did not save his

life..but did take care of the severe seasickness.

When this happened we really didn't feel we had much warning it

was coming on.. Other than a couple months of being seasick the man

NEVER had stomach problems. In researching about WLS I learned

about B12 problems and realized he did have signs of b12 deficiency

early on, that made me realize that his intrinsic factor was gone

early causing the b12 deficiency....I've often wondered if the early

warning signs had been recognized if the outcome could have been

different.

In writing this I am worried that it will just add to your stress.

But on the other hand how can I not say " take the diagnosis serious

it CAN turn to cancer " Be agressive and your doing the right thing

by doing your own research. I want to point out that you are NOT my

dad. Men have more problems, Dad fit the age group 49, he was a

smoker......

Hugs

Jo