Guest guest Posted March 15, 2001 Report Share Posted March 15, 2001 The excitement surrounding supplements is the one thing about BFL that I totally don't understand or relate to at all. Many people seem to have a tremendous eagerness to try any supplement that MIGHT help them reach their goals, even if the risks of that supplement do not justify the benefits. Whenever I tell people of the success I've had on this program, I often get asked " What supplements did you take? " -- as if the supplements were the reason for my success. Well, I took NO supplements whatsoever! My success is the result of my hard work and determination and the wisdom of this program. When I tell people that, they seem disappointed... as if they hoped I could clue them into a pill that would allow them to get results without doing any real work. I know I'm being a bit extreme... and I know there are supplements out there that are effective for some people. But why anyone would take anything with ephedra in it, after all the evidence and reports of serious problems and side effects, just blows me away. Who am I listening to? I've heard from many different sources, including a good rant on the Hussman site that we often refer to: " Though products containing ephedrine are widely used and considered effective, their safety for all individuals remains questionable. In fact, a recent article in the New England Journal of Medicine emphasizes severe health risks from ephedrine use. I am disappointed by EAS' introduction of BetaLean, which does contain ephedrine. When Bill headed the company, he resisted offering ephedrine- based products, even though they would have been profitable. In fact, he noted that " While shown in studies to be effective at stimulating fat burning, ephedra, variously called ephedrine or ma huang, has also been shown in recent reports to be associated with numerous adverse reactions. The most common of these reported side effects include jitteriness, insomnia, and heart palpitations. " The new management evidently feels differently. EAS is an outstanding company in every other way. But skip the ephedrine. Let's leave it there. " Jon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 15, 2001 Report Share Posted March 15, 2001 Bravo!! I agree and think that it should be a LIFESTYLE, hence the name body for LIFE, not a quick fix. -Dianne > > The excitement surrounding supplements is the one thing about BFL > that I totally don't understand or relate to at all. > > Many people seem to have a tremendous eagerness to try any supplement > that MIGHT help them reach their goals, even if the risks of that > supplement do not justify the benefits. > > Whenever I tell people of the success I've had on this program, I > often get asked " What supplements did you take? " -- as if the > supplements were the reason for my success. Well, I took NO > supplements whatsoever! My success is the result of my hard work and > determination and the wisdom of this program. When I tell people > that, they seem disappointed... as if they hoped I could clue them > into a pill that would allow them to get results without doing any > real work. > > I know I'm being a bit extreme... and I know there are supplements > out there that are effective for some people. But why anyone would > take anything with ephedra in it, after all the evidence and reports > of serious problems and side effects, just blows me away. > > Who am I listening to? I've heard from many different sources, > including a good rant on the Hussman site that we often refer to: > > " Though products containing ephedrine are widely used and considered > effective, their safety for all individuals remains questionable. In > fact, a recent article in the New England Journal of Medicine > emphasizes severe health risks from ephedrine use. I am disappointed > by EAS' introduction of BetaLean, which does contain ephedrine. When > Bill headed the company, he resisted offering ephedrine- > based products, even though they would have been profitable. In fact, > he noted that " While shown in studies to be effective at stimulating > fat burning, ephedra, variously called ephedrine or ma huang, has > also been shown in recent reports to be associated with numerous > adverse reactions. The most common of these reported side effects > include jitteriness, insomnia, and heart palpitations. " The new > management evidently feels differently. EAS is an outstanding company > in every other way. But skip the ephedrine. Let's leave it there. " > > Jon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 15, 2001 Report Share Posted March 15, 2001 Bravo!! I agree and think that it should be a LIFESTYLE, hence the name body for LIFE, not a quick fix. -Dianne > > The excitement surrounding supplements is the one thing about BFL > that I totally don't understand or relate to at all. > > Many people seem to have a tremendous eagerness to try any supplement > that MIGHT help them reach their goals, even if the risks of that > supplement do not justify the benefits. > > Whenever I tell people of the success I've had on this program, I > often get asked " What supplements did you take? " -- as if the > supplements were the reason for my success. Well, I took NO > supplements whatsoever! My success is the result of my hard work and > determination and the wisdom of this program. When I tell people > that, they seem disappointed... as if they hoped I could clue them > into a pill that would allow them to get results without doing any > real work. > > I know I'm being a bit extreme... and I know there are supplements > out there that are effective for some people. But why anyone would > take anything with ephedra in it, after all the evidence and reports > of serious problems and side effects, just blows me away. > > Who am I listening to? I've heard from many different sources, > including a good rant on the Hussman site that we often refer to: > > " Though products containing ephedrine are widely used and considered > effective, their safety for all individuals remains questionable. In > fact, a recent article in the New England Journal of Medicine > emphasizes severe health risks from ephedrine use. I am disappointed > by EAS' introduction of BetaLean, which does contain ephedrine. When > Bill headed the company, he resisted offering ephedrine- > based products, even though they would have been profitable. In fact, > he noted that " While shown in studies to be effective at stimulating > fat burning, ephedra, variously called ephedrine or ma huang, has > also been shown in recent reports to be associated with numerous > adverse reactions. The most common of these reported side effects > include jitteriness, insomnia, and heart palpitations. " The new > management evidently feels differently. EAS is an outstanding company > in every other way. But skip the ephedrine. Let's leave it there. " > > Jon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 15, 2001 Report Share Posted March 15, 2001 Very well said. I think the thing here is to find where you work best and try to rely on your own self power and not someting that could cause serious side effects and even death. When I took Xenedriene I was a lunitic and I felt awful. I can say that I feel much better just 'going my own'. Anissa *^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^* Take a stroll through my garden.... http://www.geocities.com/anissal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 16, 2001 Report Share Posted March 16, 2001 I'm with you 100% on this issue. If you're eating right and staying away from processed foods, you shouldn't need supplements to have a " natural " build. Where do you draw the line in processing between something being a supplement and something being a drug. Many " supplements " come from natural plants in high concentrations and many drugs come from natural plants in high concentrations. So it seems to me that it's not black and white as it's a matter of concentration level. This is body FOR LIFE. Taking supplements FOR LIFE is not natural. Eating is natural. (but, eating highly processed foods is not natural). Bill wants us to stay away from highly processed food. So, why are highly processed supplements acceptable? I'll stick with things that are most natural when possible. If I was trying to achieve particularly incredible athletic performance, maybe the supplements would be something I'd be more interested in. But I'm just a regular guy working to get back to and maintain a healthy body like I had 20 years ago. And hoping to maintain it for another 60. I never heard Willard send out 100th birthday greetings to someone who said they owe it all to supplements. JM2C (just my 2 cents) > > The excitement surrounding supplements is the one thing about BFL > that I totally don't understand or relate to at all. > > Many people seem to have a tremendous eagerness to try any supplement > that MIGHT help them reach their goals, even if the risks of that > supplement do not justify the benefits. > > Whenever I tell people of the success I've had on this program, I > often get asked " What supplements did you take? " -- as if the > supplements were the reason for my success. Well, I took NO > supplements whatsoever! My success is the result of my hard work and > determination and the wisdom of this program. When I tell people > that, they seem disappointed... as if they hoped I could clue them > into a pill that would allow them to get results without doing any > real work. > > I know I'm being a bit extreme... and I know there are supplements > out there that are effective for some people. But why anyone would > take anything with ephedra in it, after all the evidence and reports > of serious problems and side effects, just blows me away. > > Who am I listening to? I've heard from many different sources, > including a good rant on the Hussman site that we often refer to: > > " Though products containing ephedrine are widely used and considered > effective, their safety for all individuals remains questionable. In > fact, a recent article in the New England Journal of Medicine > emphasizes severe health risks from ephedrine use. I am disappointed > by EAS' introduction of BetaLean, which does contain ephedrine. When > Bill headed the company, he resisted offering ephedrine- > based products, even though they would have been profitable. In fact, > he noted that " While shown in studies to be effective at stimulating > fat burning, ephedra, variously called ephedrine or ma huang, has > also been shown in recent reports to be associated with numerous > adverse reactions. The most common of these reported side effects > include jitteriness, insomnia, and heart palpitations. " The new > management evidently feels differently. EAS is an outstanding company > in every other way. But skip the ephedrine. Let's leave it there. " > > Jon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 16, 2001 Report Share Posted March 16, 2001 I'm with you 100% on this issue. If you're eating right and staying away from processed foods, you shouldn't need supplements to have a " natural " build. Where do you draw the line in processing between something being a supplement and something being a drug. Many " supplements " come from natural plants in high concentrations and many drugs come from natural plants in high concentrations. So it seems to me that it's not black and white as it's a matter of concentration level. This is body FOR LIFE. Taking supplements FOR LIFE is not natural. Eating is natural. (but, eating highly processed foods is not natural). Bill wants us to stay away from highly processed food. So, why are highly processed supplements acceptable? I'll stick with things that are most natural when possible. If I was trying to achieve particularly incredible athletic performance, maybe the supplements would be something I'd be more interested in. But I'm just a regular guy working to get back to and maintain a healthy body like I had 20 years ago. And hoping to maintain it for another 60. I never heard Willard send out 100th birthday greetings to someone who said they owe it all to supplements. JM2C (just my 2 cents) > > The excitement surrounding supplements is the one thing about BFL > that I totally don't understand or relate to at all. > > Many people seem to have a tremendous eagerness to try any supplement > that MIGHT help them reach their goals, even if the risks of that > supplement do not justify the benefits. > > Whenever I tell people of the success I've had on this program, I > often get asked " What supplements did you take? " -- as if the > supplements were the reason for my success. Well, I took NO > supplements whatsoever! My success is the result of my hard work and > determination and the wisdom of this program. When I tell people > that, they seem disappointed... as if they hoped I could clue them > into a pill that would allow them to get results without doing any > real work. > > I know I'm being a bit extreme... and I know there are supplements > out there that are effective for some people. But why anyone would > take anything with ephedra in it, after all the evidence and reports > of serious problems and side effects, just blows me away. > > Who am I listening to? I've heard from many different sources, > including a good rant on the Hussman site that we often refer to: > > " Though products containing ephedrine are widely used and considered > effective, their safety for all individuals remains questionable. In > fact, a recent article in the New England Journal of Medicine > emphasizes severe health risks from ephedrine use. I am disappointed > by EAS' introduction of BetaLean, which does contain ephedrine. When > Bill headed the company, he resisted offering ephedrine- > based products, even though they would have been profitable. In fact, > he noted that " While shown in studies to be effective at stimulating > fat burning, ephedra, variously called ephedrine or ma huang, has > also been shown in recent reports to be associated with numerous > adverse reactions. The most common of these reported side effects > include jitteriness, insomnia, and heart palpitations. " The new > management evidently feels differently. EAS is an outstanding company > in every other way. But skip the ephedrine. Let's leave it there. " > > Jon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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