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Let's tease this apart-there are alot of factors here.

First of all, your worries are magnified by your free day yesterday-you feel

you're not where you want to be, and your anxiety is about 10x greater b/c of

the free day.

Second, the big picture is that you feel you aren't making the changes you

wanted to make, despite your diligent hard work. There could be so many

different reasons for this. Were you previously underweight? I remember you

were worried about your metabolic rate in the beginning-I believe you

mentioned that you previously underate, and this program may have been a

marked change in your daily consumption. If this is the case, it could take

a few months for your body to adjusdt it's metabolic thermostat. Past

restriction may have tricked your body into starvation mode, and now you're

telling it differently. I, too, have been a big restrictor in the past, and

felt uncomfortable with the program b/c I felt I was eating too much. I have

also had the same results, and I know that it's disheartening.

BUT.....here is the bigger picture. You are building life habits, not going

on a diet here. The liberty of choosing six small meals per day far

outweighs the constant worry of restriction. The constant goal setting

towards fitness and building muscle is a healthier goal than " weight loss. "

This is a fun program that is allowing you many other benefits outside of

weight loss like cardiovascular health, mental well-being, muscles, and most

of all, balance. Try to remember that even if you haven't seen the results

nyou felt you wanted, you certainly have gained all of these things, which

are priceless.

Try to stay focused on the bigger picture-peace of mind and happiness are

priceless.

Hope this helps... :-)

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Let's tease this apart-there are alot of factors here.

First of all, your worries are magnified by your free day yesterday-you feel

you're not where you want to be, and your anxiety is about 10x greater b/c of

the free day.

Second, the big picture is that you feel you aren't making the changes you

wanted to make, despite your diligent hard work. There could be so many

different reasons for this. Were you previously underweight? I remember you

were worried about your metabolic rate in the beginning-I believe you

mentioned that you previously underate, and this program may have been a

marked change in your daily consumption. If this is the case, it could take

a few months for your body to adjusdt it's metabolic thermostat. Past

restriction may have tricked your body into starvation mode, and now you're

telling it differently. I, too, have been a big restrictor in the past, and

felt uncomfortable with the program b/c I felt I was eating too much. I have

also had the same results, and I know that it's disheartening.

BUT.....here is the bigger picture. You are building life habits, not going

on a diet here. The liberty of choosing six small meals per day far

outweighs the constant worry of restriction. The constant goal setting

towards fitness and building muscle is a healthier goal than " weight loss. "

This is a fun program that is allowing you many other benefits outside of

weight loss like cardiovascular health, mental well-being, muscles, and most

of all, balance. Try to remember that even if you haven't seen the results

nyou felt you wanted, you certainly have gained all of these things, which

are priceless.

Try to stay focused on the bigger picture-peace of mind and happiness are

priceless.

Hope this helps... :-)

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Here is an excerpt from a chate with Lezlee , a 1999 BFL Champion. Maybe this will help you! I was reading through the chat transcripts when I came across this - perfect timing!

Sedgewick asks: As you neared your 12th week, did you find that your results slowed any, or did they speed up?Lezlee: Definitely, they accelerated. The last two weeks, I dropped an additional two sizes. I got very incredible results the last two weeks. Sadly, I know a lot of people who quit at week 10, because they don't feel like they've seen enough results, and not realizing those last two weeks give incredible gains. I encourage everybody to see it through to the end, because I saw changes in my body daily at the last two weeks. Hang in there, and go all the way!

Hope this helps!!

Cheryl :)

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Here is an excerpt from a chate with Lezlee , a 1999 BFL Champion. Maybe this will help you! I was reading through the chat transcripts when I came across this - perfect timing!

Sedgewick asks: As you neared your 12th week, did you find that your results slowed any, or did they speed up?Lezlee: Definitely, they accelerated. The last two weeks, I dropped an additional two sizes. I got very incredible results the last two weeks. Sadly, I know a lot of people who quit at week 10, because they don't feel like they've seen enough results, and not realizing those last two weeks give incredible gains. I encourage everybody to see it through to the end, because I saw changes in my body daily at the last two weeks. Hang in there, and go all the way!

Hope this helps!!

Cheryl :)

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, please don't quit. I do KNOW how frustrating it is not to be where

you want to be. I've been injury plagued this challenge. Trust me, I feel

your pain!

I recently had a LONG talk with a dr. friend of mine ( orthopod, trainer for

a professional football team, sports nutrition, Olympic guru, etc). I have

actually gained inches in places and was very discouraged. He told me that

sometimes, as you build muscle, the inches increase because the fat hasn't

come off yet. We initially lose fat viscerally ( deep inside our bodies)

and eventually we lost fat so you can see the muscle definition. It's only a

matter of time before the inches disappear and what's revealed underneath is

great looking muscle.

You have seen the error of your ways ( eating below BMR) which caused your

body to hoard fat. Your body thought you were starving. You've changed

that and now it's just going to take some time before your body responds the

way you want it to. You are doing something right or you would not be able

to increase your strength!

Have you been to http://www.bodychangers.com and listened to any of the

interviews? Some of them are very inspirational.

Don't give up. Continue on for the next two weeks. Take your after

picture, measure your bodyfat, and make comparisons. I think you'll be

surprised at just how much success you will have achieved.

Glenda

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> Hi everyone. I am a bit upset right now. This is my 10th week and I am

not

> where I want to be at all. I had a bit of a setback at the beginning of

my

> challenge by eating below my bmr and not getting my healthy fats in but I

> have corrected that problem. The thing is I feel like although I am

gaining

> strength I am getting chubbier in my waist and thighs. I don't know what

to

> do and am lost. I wanted this to work so badly and now am upset that at

the

> end of the challenge, unlike many of you bflers I have nothing really to

> show for it. I had a tighter stomach and less bf when I underate as

apposed

> to now where I can't see an ab if my life depended on it. I ALWAYS go

> overboard on my free day for some reason and it was last night so I am

> hoping that that is why I am feeling down but really in the next two weeks

I

> don't think anything major is going to happen and need help. I do the

> workouts religiously as I am supposed to. I drink my coffee b4, I go in

the

> morning, I eat a lot of veggies and consume around 20 cups of water a day.

> What can I do? Please if someone has advice for me I'd love it b/c last

> night I just wanted to quit and start over or start something new but

don't

> want to give up. : (

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WooHooooo! Cheryl, I know that was for , but I sure got a boost out of it too :)Thanks for sending it out :)

Blessings,

~~

,

Here is an excerpt from a chate with Lezlee , a 1999 BFL Champion. Maybe this will help you! I was reading through the chat transcripts when I came across this - perfect timing!

Sedgewick asks: As you neared your 12th week, did you find that your results slowed any, or did they speed up?Lezlee: Definitely, they accelerated. The last two weeks, I dropped an additional two sizes. I got very incredible results the last two weeks. Sadly, I know a lot of people who quit at week 10, because they don't feel like they've seen enough results, and not realizing those last two weeks give incredible gains. I encourage everybody to see it through to the end, because I saw changes in my body daily at the last two weeks. Hang in there, and go all the way!

Hope this helps!!

Cheryl :)

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WooHooooo! Cheryl, I know that was for , but I sure got a boost out of it too :)Thanks for sending it out :)

Blessings,

~~

,

Here is an excerpt from a chate with Lezlee , a 1999 BFL Champion. Maybe this will help you! I was reading through the chat transcripts when I came across this - perfect timing!

Sedgewick asks: As you neared your 12th week, did you find that your results slowed any, or did they speed up?Lezlee: Definitely, they accelerated. The last two weeks, I dropped an additional two sizes. I got very incredible results the last two weeks. Sadly, I know a lot of people who quit at week 10, because they don't feel like they've seen enough results, and not realizing those last two weeks give incredible gains. I encourage everybody to see it through to the end, because I saw changes in my body daily at the last two weeks. Hang in there, and go all the way!

Hope this helps!!

Cheryl :)

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Oh I agree with you Glenda :) I thought the tops of my thighs were looking puffier and more bulky, but then I realized that just below that there was muscle definition starting to develop (just a tad)......So I am taking encouragement from seeing the lines of muscle, and forgetting the puffy part......that will melt off in its own due time :) My body is going to change shape a few more times (im sure) until this transformation is complete :) Actually its intruiging to wake up each day and see small changes and wonder what is coming next!! I LOVE THIS PROGRAM! :)

Anyway, I was careful not to fool myself into thinking I could achieve my goals in 1 challenge (not saying you did this :) ....Ive accepted that it will probably take 2 to get there....this way I wouldnt be looking for such dramatic results and getting discouraged if they didnt happen! , hang in there! Look at this as a new way to live, and the results and changes are just the blessings you receive from taking proper care of your body, the way we all should have from the start :) Please dont panic :)

~~

I recently had a LONG talk with a dr. friend of mine ( orthopod, trainer fora professional football team, sports nutrition, Olympic guru, etc). I haveactually gained inches in places and was very discouraged. He told me thatsometimes, as you build muscle, the inches increase because the fat hasn'tcome off yet. We initially lose fat viscerally ( deep inside our bodies)and eventually we lost fat so you can see the muscle definition. It's only amatter of time before the inches disappear and what's revealed underneath isgreat looking muscle.

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Oh I agree with you Glenda :) I thought the tops of my thighs were looking puffier and more bulky, but then I realized that just below that there was muscle definition starting to develop (just a tad)......So I am taking encouragement from seeing the lines of muscle, and forgetting the puffy part......that will melt off in its own due time :) My body is going to change shape a few more times (im sure) until this transformation is complete :) Actually its intruiging to wake up each day and see small changes and wonder what is coming next!! I LOVE THIS PROGRAM! :)

Anyway, I was careful not to fool myself into thinking I could achieve my goals in 1 challenge (not saying you did this :) ....Ive accepted that it will probably take 2 to get there....this way I wouldnt be looking for such dramatic results and getting discouraged if they didnt happen! , hang in there! Look at this as a new way to live, and the results and changes are just the blessings you receive from taking proper care of your body, the way we all should have from the start :) Please dont panic :)

~~

I recently had a LONG talk with a dr. friend of mine ( orthopod, trainer fora professional football team, sports nutrition, Olympic guru, etc). I haveactually gained inches in places and was very discouraged. He told me thatsometimes, as you build muscle, the inches increase because the fat hasn'tcome off yet. We initially lose fat viscerally ( deep inside our bodies)and eventually we lost fat so you can see the muscle definition. It's only amatter of time before the inches disappear and what's revealed underneath isgreat looking muscle.

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Don't give up! This program will work for you. It's great that

you are gaining strength, and that you have stuck with the program

for 10 weeks. There are so many people who quit long before the 10th

week. I believe that you are a winner, not a quitter. Otherwise,

you would not have come to this group for help, and you certainly

would not have stuck with the program for 10 weeks already.

Let's take a look at what a typical day for you is like nutrition-

wise. Could you post a sample of what you eat, the times you eat,

what your goals are, what your weight and BF% is and what supplements

you are taking?

We're here to help you.

Kathy

> Hi everyone. I am a bit upset right now. This is my 10th week and

I am not

> where I want to be at all. I had a bit of a setback at the

beginning of my

> challenge by eating below my bmr and not getting my healthy fats in

but I

> have corrected that problem. The thing is I feel like although I

am gaining

> strength I am getting chubbier in my waist and thighs. I don't

know what to

> do and am lost. I wanted this to work so badly and now am upset

that at the

> end of the challenge, unlike many of you bflers I have nothing

really to

> show for it. I had a tighter stomach and less bf when I underate

as apposed

> to now where I can't see an ab if my life depended on it. I ALWAYS

go

> overboard on my free day for some reason and it was last night so I

am

> hoping that that is why I am feeling down but really in the next

two weeks I

> don't think anything major is going to happen and need help. I do

the

> workouts religiously as I am supposed to. I drink my coffee b4, I

go in the

> morning, I eat a lot of veggies and consume around 20 cups of water

a day.

> What can I do? Please if someone has advice for me I'd love it b/c

last

> night I just wanted to quit and start over or start something new

but don't

> want to give up. : (

>

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Don't give up! This program will work for you. It's great that

you are gaining strength, and that you have stuck with the program

for 10 weeks. There are so many people who quit long before the 10th

week. I believe that you are a winner, not a quitter. Otherwise,

you would not have come to this group for help, and you certainly

would not have stuck with the program for 10 weeks already.

Let's take a look at what a typical day for you is like nutrition-

wise. Could you post a sample of what you eat, the times you eat,

what your goals are, what your weight and BF% is and what supplements

you are taking?

We're here to help you.

Kathy

> Hi everyone. I am a bit upset right now. This is my 10th week and

I am not

> where I want to be at all. I had a bit of a setback at the

beginning of my

> challenge by eating below my bmr and not getting my healthy fats in

but I

> have corrected that problem. The thing is I feel like although I

am gaining

> strength I am getting chubbier in my waist and thighs. I don't

know what to

> do and am lost. I wanted this to work so badly and now am upset

that at the

> end of the challenge, unlike many of you bflers I have nothing

really to

> show for it. I had a tighter stomach and less bf when I underate

as apposed

> to now where I can't see an ab if my life depended on it. I ALWAYS

go

> overboard on my free day for some reason and it was last night so I

am

> hoping that that is why I am feeling down but really in the next

two weeks I

> don't think anything major is going to happen and need help. I do

the

> workouts religiously as I am supposed to. I drink my coffee b4, I

go in the

> morning, I eat a lot of veggies and consume around 20 cups of water

a day.

> What can I do? Please if someone has advice for me I'd love it b/c

last

> night I just wanted to quit and start over or start something new

but don't

> want to give up. : (

>

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Hi, and thanks everyone for the support that is much needed. After I wrote

that post I sat down and had a heart to heart talk with, well, myself.

Anyways, I decided to do something about it, get going to the gym for my ubw

and stick with the program. After all, I am NOT a quitter. All of the

posts really helped and the thought that others made big progress in the

last two weeks is so reasuring. I typically have 1 1/2tbsp udo's oil, daily

with a calcium and multi-vitamin somewhere throughout the day.

These last 2 weeks of my life have been really really crazy so I will try to

give you an example of a typical day. I workout in the morning after a cup

of coffee. Have a couple cold tofu dogs(nutrition works out)with an apple

an hour later after getting ready at the gym for school. At lunch I have

1/2 cup oatmeal and a can of tuna

then for meal 3, I have perhaps another 1/2oatmeal and again tofu dogs

meal 4 is usually a piece of fruit and either tuna, protein shake

usually however meal 5 and six are a bit close together and are later than

9:00 at night. I don't really consume any carbs other than the fruit and

oatmeal as portions. But up until now did often snack on large quantities

of baby carrots, cauliflower,etc in between and at meal time. This week

(with all of your support:) I hope to make it the best possible! I am going

to give it my all, and I did have a great workout this morning.

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Hi, and thanks everyone for the support that is much needed. After I wrote

that post I sat down and had a heart to heart talk with, well, myself.

Anyways, I decided to do something about it, get going to the gym for my ubw

and stick with the program. After all, I am NOT a quitter. All of the

posts really helped and the thought that others made big progress in the

last two weeks is so reasuring. I typically have 1 1/2tbsp udo's oil, daily

with a calcium and multi-vitamin somewhere throughout the day.

These last 2 weeks of my life have been really really crazy so I will try to

give you an example of a typical day. I workout in the morning after a cup

of coffee. Have a couple cold tofu dogs(nutrition works out)with an apple

an hour later after getting ready at the gym for school. At lunch I have

1/2 cup oatmeal and a can of tuna

then for meal 3, I have perhaps another 1/2oatmeal and again tofu dogs

meal 4 is usually a piece of fruit and either tuna, protein shake

usually however meal 5 and six are a bit close together and are later than

9:00 at night. I don't really consume any carbs other than the fruit and

oatmeal as portions. But up until now did often snack on large quantities

of baby carrots, cauliflower,etc in between and at meal time. This week

(with all of your support:) I hope to make it the best possible! I am going

to give it my all, and I did have a great workout this morning.

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Kathy, I don't actually know my bf% but I am not that big and can tell when

I put on a few or am getting too thin. I currently weigh around the 110

mark and am 5'5. I really want an awesome stomach. That was probably my

biggest goal, along with really defined legs. My problem however, is my

midsection. I don't weigh that much but whatever weight I put on goes

there. My arms are getting bigger and not so spindley which is good. I

usually try to aim for 1600 calories per day too. Does this help at all.

Recently I have tried eating a few whole cans of tuna instead of the half

all the time. Thank you and any advice would be appreciated.

>From: " Kathy " <on2gold@...>

>Reply-bodyforlife

>bodyforlife

>Subject: Re: week 10 trouble

>Date: Sat, 24 Mar 2001 19:17:01 -0000

>

>,

> Don't give up! This program will work for you. It's great that

>you are gaining strength, and that you have stuck with the program

>for 10 weeks. There are so many people who quit long before the 10th

>week. I believe that you are a winner, not a quitter. Otherwise,

>you would not have come to this group for help, and you certainly

>would not have stuck with the program for 10 weeks already.

> Let's take a look at what a typical day for you is like nutrition-

>wise. Could you post a sample of what you eat, the times you eat,

>what your goals are, what your weight and BF% is and what supplements

>you are taking?

> We're here to help you.

>Kathy

>

>

> > Hi everyone. I am a bit upset right now. This is my 10th week and

>I am not

> > where I want to be at all. I had a bit of a setback at the

>beginning of my

> > challenge by eating below my bmr and not getting my healthy fats in

>but I

> > have corrected that problem. The thing is I feel like although I

>am gaining

> > strength I am getting chubbier in my waist and thighs. I don't

>know what to

> > do and am lost. I wanted this to work so badly and now am upset

>that at the

> > end of the challenge, unlike many of you bflers I have nothing

>really to

> > show for it. I had a tighter stomach and less bf when I underate

>as apposed

> > to now where I can't see an ab if my life depended on it. I ALWAYS

>go

> > overboard on my free day for some reason and it was last night so I

>am

> > hoping that that is why I am feeling down but really in the next

>two weeks I

> > don't think anything major is going to happen and need help. I do

>the

> > workouts religiously as I am supposed to. I drink my coffee b4, I

>go in the

> > morning, I eat a lot of veggies and consume around 20 cups of water

>a day.

> > What can I do? Please if someone has advice for me I'd love it b/c

>last

> > night I just wanted to quit and start over or start something new

>but don't

> > want to give up. : (

> >

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Good job ! We're all right here with you, and if you want us to, we'll be pushing, pulling and prodding in any encouraging way that we can! LOL

All the best :)

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This week (with all of your support:) I hope to make it the best possible! I am going to give it my all, and I did have a great workout this morning.

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Good job ! We're all right here with you, and if you want us to, we'll be pushing, pulling and prodding in any encouraging way that we can! LOL

All the best :)

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This week (with all of your support:) I hope to make it the best possible! I am going to give it my all, and I did have a great workout this morning.

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Wow, thanks for posting the quote from Lezlee, Cheryl! Getting ready to

start week 10 and all I can say is wow, I hope I see the same affect!

NEAT!!!

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Wow, thanks for posting the quote from Lezlee, Cheryl! Getting ready to

start week 10 and all I can say is wow, I hope I see the same affect!

NEAT!!!

Cristi

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Thanks a lot , you always seem to be in such up spirits and really help

to motivate a lot of people here!

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><bodyforlife >

>Subject: Re: week 10 trouble

>Date: Sat, 24 Mar 2001 14:48:12 -0600

>

>Good job ! We're all right here with you, and if you want us to,

>we'll be pushing, pulling and prodding in any encouraging way that we can!

>LOL

>All the best :)

>~~

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>This week (with all of your support:) I hope to make it the best possible!

>I am going

>to give it my all, and I did have a great workout this morning.

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Thanks a lot , you always seem to be in such up spirits and really help

to motivate a lot of people here!

>From: " " <lou10@...>

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><bodyforlife >

>Subject: Re: week 10 trouble

>Date: Sat, 24 Mar 2001 14:48:12 -0600

>

>Good job ! We're all right here with you, and if you want us to,

>we'll be pushing, pulling and prodding in any encouraging way that we can!

>LOL

>All the best :)

>~~

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>

>This week (with all of your support:) I hope to make it the best possible!

>I am going

>to give it my all, and I did have a great workout this morning.

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, how has your progress been so far? What were your goals?

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><bodyforlife >

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>Date: Sat, 24 Mar 2001 14:52:49 -0600

>

>Wow, thanks for posting the quote from Lezlee, Cheryl! Getting ready to

>start week 10 and all I can say is wow, I hope I see the same affect!

>NEAT!!!

>

>Cristi

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, how has your progress been so far? What were your goals?

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><bodyforlife >

>Subject: Re: week 10 trouble

>Date: Sat, 24 Mar 2001 14:52:49 -0600

>

>Wow, thanks for posting the quote from Lezlee, Cheryl! Getting ready to

>start week 10 and all I can say is wow, I hope I see the same affect!

>NEAT!!!

>

>Cristi

>c1w9d6

>

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Hi, ,

I think you were replying to me. Not sure if you were asking me how my

progress has been so far since you said but I will answer anyway.

(Kind of funny but I do get called the wrong name every so often and believe

it or not it is ALWAYs the same wrong name .... !!! :-)

Anyway, ok, I am at the end of week nine. Have lost over 20 pounds. Am

wearing a smaller size that fits great! As compared to my tight fitting

larger size when I started. Have a TON of energy! Just got my body fat

measured a week ago but do plan to have it measured at the end of the 12

weeks. I need to lose about 50+ pounds so I will be doing another challenge

after this but all I can say is these 12 weeks have been great! And I

cannot believe we only have two more weeks, right Dawn? :-)

My goals were:

Lose 30 pounds of fat ... which I knew was probably a two challenge goal

Flatten my stomach

See difference in how my clothes fit

Gain strength

Gain endurance

The only goal I really haven't seen a bit of progress in is " flatten my

stomach. " But after three c-sections, it is probably going to take a bit

longer and I hate doing ad exercises!! But I definitely have reach all my

other goals and will be writing new ones in two weeks. Can't wait to take

that after challenge 1 picture and before challenge 2 picture and compare it

to my before challenge 1 pic :-) Maybe I will get daring and post!

:-) Aren't you glad you asked?

Cristi

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> , how has your progress been so far? What were your goals?

>

>

> >From: " Cristi " <cristi@...>

> >

> >Wow, thanks for posting the quote from Lezlee, Cheryl! Getting ready to

> >start week 10 and all I can say is wow, I hope I see the same affect!

> >NEAT!!!

> >

> >Cristi

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Hi, ,

I think you were replying to me. Not sure if you were asking me how my

progress has been so far since you said but I will answer anyway.

(Kind of funny but I do get called the wrong name every so often and believe

it or not it is ALWAYs the same wrong name .... !!! :-)

Anyway, ok, I am at the end of week nine. Have lost over 20 pounds. Am

wearing a smaller size that fits great! As compared to my tight fitting

larger size when I started. Have a TON of energy! Just got my body fat

measured a week ago but do plan to have it measured at the end of the 12

weeks. I need to lose about 50+ pounds so I will be doing another challenge

after this but all I can say is these 12 weeks have been great! And I

cannot believe we only have two more weeks, right Dawn? :-)

My goals were:

Lose 30 pounds of fat ... which I knew was probably a two challenge goal

Flatten my stomach

See difference in how my clothes fit

Gain strength

Gain endurance

The only goal I really haven't seen a bit of progress in is " flatten my

stomach. " But after three c-sections, it is probably going to take a bit

longer and I hate doing ad exercises!! But I definitely have reach all my

other goals and will be writing new ones in two weeks. Can't wait to take

that after challenge 1 picture and before challenge 2 picture and compare it

to my before challenge 1 pic :-) Maybe I will get daring and post!

:-) Aren't you glad you asked?

Cristi

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----- Original Message -----

From: jaime mantesso <jaimemantesso@...>

> , how has your progress been so far? What were your goals?

>

>

> >From: " Cristi " <cristi@...>

> >

> >Wow, thanks for posting the quote from Lezlee, Cheryl! Getting ready to

> >start week 10 and all I can say is wow, I hope I see the same affect!

> >NEAT!!!

> >

> >Cristi

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In a message dated 3/24/01 10:07:47 PM Eastern Standard Time, "jaime mantesso" <jaimemantesso@...> writes:

Kathy, I don't actually know my bf% but I am not that big and can tell when I put on a few or am getting too thin. I currently weigh around the 110 mark and am 5'5. I really want an awesome stomach. That was probably my biggest goal, along with really defined legs. My problem however, is my midsection. I don't weigh that much but whatever weight I put on goes there.

I agree with the person who talked about refining your goals. I also didn't see where you mention your bodyfat percentage, but I hope you've had it done. Perhaps comparisons of bodyfat percentages would give you a boost of confidence. From what I've read, it appears you're a vegan, correct me if I'm wrong. Given what I've seen of what you do eat, and what you're trying to accomplish, I'm wondering if you've got some visual perception issues.

Having a "really flat stomach" is an extremely subjective goal, one that is hard to quantify. Just looking is not good enough. I have an extremely flat stomach, no joke, but my bodyfat percentage is still just above 30% (down from 35, but still above 30). Also, considering your intake of food, I wonder that you're truly eating enough - and what is a free day for you?

Since you're vegan, what is pigging out? I'm not trying to be sarcastic or cruel, here. I'm truly interested. For us meat-eaters, pigging out has a much larger menu. Hope you know what I'm getting at...but if you don't, let's keep talking. I want to help.

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