Re: Melatonin Query (Darla and anyone else who uses this please)

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What is the dose for a 5 year old who weighs around 19kgs?My boy just turned 5 and is 19 kilos. We gave 2mg in the beginning and that worked great for us but I wouldn't be afraid to use a bit more if she needed it. I have used 4mg without a problem but remember it doesn't guarantee that they won't wake up in the early hours of the morning. I know how it feels to be exhausted so I hope you get some sleep soon. All the best, I wouldn't be afraid to use _._,_.___

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Thanks for your response . We are going to try a low dose and see how we

get on, fingers crossed.

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Hi Angelle,

Sorry I haven't been able to read posts for a week or so now. I hope you got

things sorted and are seeing some improvement in your son's sleep.

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Hi Darla,

Thanks for coming back to me. Yes, we tried our first dose last night and he

slept till around 5.30! The 20 minutes tantruming for no reason he had shortly

after waking didnt even matter! Fingers crossed, it wasnt a fluke.

Thanks and kind regards,

Angelle

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[Guest guest]

does anyone use NHS melatonin?? I have some from our Paed, but there's no

ingredients on the bottle, so not sure about nasties...

thanks

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[Guest guest]

Thanks for that , im more looking at it as an anti oxidant...touch wood

' sleep is good for now (you watch he'll be up all night tonight!)

Were doing ok thanks, is coming on slowly but surely.....as I type is is

scootering around the house!

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[Guest guest]

Hi ,

The stuff we had from NHS several years ago now had lactose (milk sugar) as

base.

Patience

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thanks Patience, milk of any description is a no no for us....

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Hi,

I haven't yet tried this myself but filed it for future use.

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Extract from jasmine shown to be as powerful as sleeping pills

Just breathing in the scent can cause sleepiness and have sedative effects

Oils extracted from the jasmine plant have long been used in aromatherapy with

many claims made about the effect of the scent. But now a new study has found

that certain chemicals extracted from the plant can act as powerful sedatives

with effects as strong as sleeping pills and barbiturates.

Sedatives, sleeping pills and relaxants are the most frequently prescribed

psychotropic drugs - if the dose is increased enough they will cause

hallucinations. These drugs are used for their calming effect in treating mental

anxiety and also as sedatives.

But these chemicals can also cause serious side effects such as depression,

dizziness, hypotension, muscle weakness and impaired coordination.

So German scientists have been investigating the calming effects of various

fragrancies that could be used in place of these drugs. They have now found that

a chemical called Vertacetal-coeur (VC) and another variation of it derived from

the jasmine plant act in the same way as these sedatives and that even just

breathing in the scents can be enough to activate their effects.

How sedatives work

Sedatives such as valium act on particular sites in the brain, increasing the

effects of the brain's own neurotransmitter called GABA. In fact the sedatives

can even act in the same way as GABA in high enough doses. This GABA is an

inhibitor - it serves to reduce brain function, thus leading to calmness,

drowsiness and sleep.

Testing the fragrance

The jasmine extracts were administered to mice, both as injections and by

inhalation. In both cases the mice responded by becoming calm, ceasing activity

and sitting quietly in the corner. Mice that had been genetically modified such

that their brain receptors no longer respond to sedatives were not affected by

the chemicals, showing that the action of the jasmine extract is the same as

other sedatives.

Commenting on the results, study leader Hanns Hatt said: " We have discovered a

new class of GABA receptor modulator which can be administered through the air -

applications in sedation, anxiety, excitement and aggression relieving treatment

and sleep induction therapy are all imaginable. "

The study is published online in the Journal of Biological Chemistry

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2010/07/100708104320.htm

http://www.jbc.org/content/early/2010/05/28/jbc.M110.103309.abstract

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Patience

Extract from jasmine shown to be as powerful as sleeping pills

Just breathing in the scent can cause sleepiness and have sedative effects

Oils extracted from the jasmine plant have long been used in aromatherapy with

many claims made about the effect of the scent. But now a new study has found

that certain chemicals extracted from the plant can act as powerful sedatives

with effects as strong as sleeping pills and barbiturates.

Sedatives, sleeping pills and relaxants are the most frequently prescribed

psychotropic drugs - if the dose is increased enough they will cause

hallucinations. These drugs are used for their calming effect in treating mental

anxiety and also as sedatives.

But these chemicals can also cause serious side effects such as depression,

dizziness, hypotension, muscle weakness and impaired coordination.

So German scientists have been investigating the calming effects of various

fragrancies that could be used in place of these drugs. They have now found that

a chemical called Vertacetal-coeur (VC) and another variation of it derived from

the jasmine plant act in the same way as these sedatives and that even just

breathing in the scents can be enough to activate their effects.

How sedatives work

Sedatives such as valium act on particular sites in the brain, increasing the

effects of the brain's own neurotransmitter called GABA. In fact the sedatives

can even act in the same way as GABA in high enough doses. This GABA is an

inhibitor - it serves to reduce brain function, thus leading to calmness,

drowsiness and sleep.

Testing the fragrance

The jasmine extracts were administered to mice, both as injections and by

inhalation. In both cases the mice responded by becoming calm, ceasing activity

and sitting quietly in the corner. Mice that had been genetically modified such

that their brain receptors no longer respond to sedatives were not affected by

the chemicals, showing that the action of the jasmine extract is the same as

other sedatives.

Commenting on the results, study leader Hanns Hatt said: " We have discovered a

new class of GABA receptor modulator which can be administered through the air -

applications in sedation, anxiety, excitement and aggression relieving treatment

and sleep induction therapy are all imaginable. "

The study is published online in the Journal of Biological Chemistry

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2010/07/100708104320.htm

http://www.jbc.org/content/early/2010/05/28/jbc.M110.103309.abstract

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> > > > > the beginning and that worked great for us but I wouldn't be

afraid to use

> > > > > a bit more if she needed it. I have used 4mg without a problem but

remember

> > > > > it doesn't guarantee that they won't wake up in the early hours of the

> > > > > morning. I know how it feels to be exhausted so I hope you get some

sleep

> > > > > soon. All the best,   I wouldn't be afraid to use

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Not a comment about sourcing (here in Canada we buy it OTC without problems) but

was reading a Dr Jan who has studied melatonin and children for 20 years.

He states that, " The molecule has immunological benefits and we have commonly

observed less frequent respiratory infections during therapy. "

He also adds that " better sleep was associated with improved health, behaviour,

and learning and in diminished parental stress. " Certainly has been the case

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Not a comment about sourcing (here in Canada we buy it OTC without problems) but

was reading a Dr Jan who has studied melatonin and children for 20 years.

He states that, " The molecule has immunological benefits and we have commonly

observed less frequent respiratory infections during therapy. "

He also adds that " better sleep was associated with improved health, behaviour,

and learning and in diminished parental stress. " Certainly has been the case

here :-)

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> > > the beginning and that worked great for us but I wouldn't be afraid to

use

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> > > a bit more if she needed it. I have used 4mg without a problem but

remember

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> > > it doesn't guarantee that they won't wake up in the early hours of the

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> > > morning. I know how it feels to be exhausted so I hope you get some sleep

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