Guest guest Posted March 30, 2009 Report Share Posted March 30, 2009 Not if you are using the childs own stem cells from cord blood. It's a simple autoreinfusion - about 20 minutes. Check out the Duke study for kids with CP. On Mar 30, 2009, at 12:23 PM, NOEL SCHNEIDER <schneid99@...> wrote: > You know stem cell trasplant requires 1 yr. chemotherapy to kill off > all cells, good or bad, The child is hospitalized for months and > cannot attend school or be around children for about a year....no > guarantee it works or even know exactly what you are trying to use > them for specifically. > It is very complicated and requires immunosuppressive meds.....etc.... > Just wanted to throw a few facts out there.. > > Sincerely Noel > > > > > HI Gabby, > > > > > > > > Do you have direct experience with stem cells? My > > friend's son has CP and > > was one of the first to be implanted with them (his > > own) last Thanksgiving, > > through a Duke U. study. So far he still has CP. > > They said 6-8 months for > > noticeable changes. My son has CP as well as the " A " > > word, so I would LOVE > > it if stem cells could help him. > > > > > > > > Kristy > > > > > > > > From: groups (DOT) com > > [mailto:groups (DOT) com] On Behalf Of > > a DeVelbiss > > Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 9:29 AM > > groups (DOT) com > > Subject: Re: NO AUTISM In Never-Vaccinated > > Children > > > > > > > > And that is because... you can take all the poison > > out of their bodies... > > but they are left with a brain-injury. .. for that > > you may need stem cells!!! > > It is like the analogy of the child being hit by a > > bus... you can heal > > certain wounds but the child may never be the same > > again (because of the > > extent of the damage left behind!!!).. . > > > > Love, Gabby. :0) > > http://stemcellfora utism.blogspot. com/ > > > > " I know of nobody who is purely Autistic or purely > > neurotypical. Even God > > had some Autistic moments, which is why the planets > > all spin. " ~ Jerry > > Newport > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > > removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > > removed] > > > > > > May the Lord bless you and keep you! > > Visit my blog > > http://bloominwhere yourplanted. blogspot. com/ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 30, 2009 Report Share Posted March 30, 2009 No, I " m saying there are different types of stem cell transplants, it depends alot on what you are doing the transplant for, where it was done, and what you are targeting to treat, Stem cell transplants are only done for specific diseases....you can also check out cord blood registry regarding their own cells transplanted and in what cases that may be considered. Also check out Duke University. For immune related issues, yes I am saying chemo is required.....this info comes from Dept Head at Duke University. HTH What did your friend have done? Sincerely Noel > HI Gabby, > > > > Do you have direct experience with stem cells? My > friend's son has CP and > was one of the first to be implanted with them (his > own) last Thanksgiving, > through a Duke U. study. So far he still has CP. > They said 6-8 months for > noticeable changes. My son has CP as well as the " A " > word, so I would LOVE > it if stem cells could help him. > > > > Kristy > > > > From: groups (DOT) com > [mailto:] On Behalf Of > a DeVelbiss > Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 9:29 AM > groups (DOT) com > Subject: Re: NO AUTISM In Never-Vaccinated > Children > > > > And that is because... you can take all the poison > out of their bodies... > but they are left with a brain-injury. .. for that > you may need stem cells!!! > It is like the analogy of the child being hit by a > bus... you can heal > certain wounds but the child may never be the same > again (because of the > extent of the damage left behind!!!).. . > > Love, Gabby. :0) > http://stemcellfora utism.blogspot. com/ > > " I know of nobody who is purely Autistic or purely > neurotypical. Even God > had some Autistic moments, which is why the planets > all spin. " ~ Jerry > Newport > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > May the Lord bless you and keep you! Visit my blog http://bloominwhere yourplanted. blogspot. com/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 31, 2009 Report Share Posted March 31, 2009 NO NO NO!!! Stem Cells do not require CHEMO!!! That is a big lie from PHARMAS... because they want to keep selling their crap... We have seen many many patients treated with ONLY stem cells and they are healed!!! I am a CANCER survivor and I know what I am talking about... I was treated with chemo and readiation and now I have Hashimoto's diease... CHEMO IS NOT THE SOLUTION... stem cells go to the part of the body that is broken and fix it!!! No need of chemo... this is a natural every day process... our bodies produce stem cells but the problem is that we don't produce enough or TOXICITY has impaired our bodies to do so!!! We have seen many kids recover and get better on stem cells NO CHEMO!!! and it is all good!!! www.patriciavsautism.com Go to her Gallery and see her videos!!! Or check out : www.recovering.blogspot.com Love, Gabby. :0) http://stemcellforautism.blogspot.com/ " I know of nobody who is purely Autistic or purely neurotypical. Even God had some Autistic moments, which is why the planets all spin. " ~ Jerry Newport Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 31, 2009 Report Share Posted March 31, 2009 Stem cells are the original (primordial) cells produced in the human body, with the capability to differentiate along any line or into any type of cell (totipotent). They divide and multiply within the human body. The first stem cells originate within the developing embryo ( blastocyst). These embryonic stem cells have to ultimately create the entire human body. Umbilical stem cells are harvested from the umbilical cord of a full term live birth, not from an aborted fetus. This type of stem cell therapy involves the introduction of healthy new stem cells into the body to repair and replace damaged or lost cells. Many of the so-called “incurable diseases†can be caused by the degeneration of specific cell types in the body. The use of stem cell medicine was first used in 1956 by Dr. E. Donnall , a bone marrow transplant specialist. He administered donor adult stem cells to a leukemia patient who went into complete remission. Dr. and ph E. Murray are co-winners of the 1990 Nobel Prize in Physiology or Medicine for their contribution on discoveries concerning cell and organ transplantation in the treatment of human diseases. Cord blood stem cells have been used in the treatment of blood cancers and/or blood diseases since 1988. In 1988, Elaine Gluckman replaced allogenic cord blood for a bone marrow transplant in order to treat Fanconi’s Anemia, a rare recessive blood disorder. The child remains completely disease free. In 1998, at the University of Wisconsin, isolated the first embryonic stem cells from a blastocyst of a five day old in vitro fertilized egg. This discovery started the scientific movement to do studies, documents, and many debates over the ethical issues surrounding embryo destruction for medical purposes. In 2001 treatment protocols were developed which permitted the removal of white blood cells from the cord, making the treatment safe with no risk of Graft verse Host Disease. This treatment also proved there is no need for HLA matching. In 2002, Verfaillie at the University of Minnesota proved that CD34+ stem cells from bone marrow could repopulate every single cell in a developing mouse. This study started more studies using adult stem cells to generate far more than just blood cells. It became proven there are great potentials for adult stem cells to treat a wide range a blood diseases, cancers, degenerative diseases and injuries. In 2002, studies were released which proved that adult stem cells have the power to rebuild or reconstruct every cell in the body, not just the blood cells. In 2004, Duke University published data from a human study confirming the Verfaillie study. The study featured the heart treatment of a boy who received CD34+ stem cells derived from donated cord blood. Not only did the investigation show differentiation to neurons and other cell types, but also proved that cord blood stem cells: Migrate to the site of disease Had the ability to differentiate into specialized heart cells Engraft yielding clinical benefits.  There are several types of Stem Cell Therapies: New Hope Medical Center only advocates the use of Umbilical Stem Cells derived from donated live full term births.  Whole Cord Blood Stem Cell Therapy- involves the use of stem cells derived from full term births which were donated with informed consent. It is customary that after the birth of a new born child, the hospital destroys the waste products such as the umbilical cord and placenta. When permission is given by the parents, research goes forward and the umbilical cord is sent to the laboratory to be tested for many diseases and the different stem cells are harvested. Unlike embryonic or fetal stem cells, cord stem cells are programmed to rapidly support the development and growth of all body systems, and are pluripotent---capable of differentiating into every single specialized body cell.  Purified and Potentiated Cord Blood Stem Cell Therapy- involves the use of proprietary protocols to remove the white and red blood cells from cord blood leaving only stem cells. This process negates the risk of Graft versus Host Disease and the need for cross matching. Post thaw viability is potentiated with special freeze media.  Embryonic Stem Cells Therapy- involves the use of cells extracted from a five day old in vitro fertilized embryo. The viability of this cell type is limited, because only small numbers of cells can be derived from an embryo, and thus, they need to be expanded in the lab, currently with an animal intermediary, which limits their use in humans. Also, these cell lines are limited for use by government.  Fetal Stem Cell Therapy- involves the use of human fetuses aborted between the first and third months. Retrieval of fetal stem cells in adequate numbers is limited. Adult Stem Cell Therapy- involves the use of stem cells derived from bone marrow, peripheral blood, and some tissues. Adult stem cells are understood to be 1/1000 as powerful as cord stem cells, since they have endured age stresses, toxicity, and often, disease. Their use is limited by the risk of graft versus host disease, and finding HLA matched donors. Distinguishing Factors for Our Affiliated Facility’s Use of Cord Stem Cells * ETHICAL We use human umbilical cords from full term births, with informed consent donations. * SAFE Cord stem cells used are certified infectious disease free per safety standards of The American Association of Blood Banks, and are purified to minimize graft versus host disease. Donors are screened for congenital/hereditary disorders. Hepatitis B and C, HIV 1 and 2, HTLV, CMV, Syphilis, Fungal/ routine bacterial cultures, and /ABO/Rh testing is done. * VIABILITY Cord stem cells used have enhanced viability, because of a special freeze media used. * ENHANCED POTENTIAL Cord stem cells used are selected for their potential to engraft and grow in correlated diseased tissues, and can be genetically enhanced for disease/ tissue/cell/gene specific dysfunctions. * QUANTIFIED Cord stem cells used are assayed for specific type cell count per vial, and kept frozen with monitored liquid nitrogen storage.  The Following includes, but are not limited to a small list of conditions which have proven to be responsive to Cord Blood Stem Cell Therapy.  Adrenal Disease ’s Disease Cushing's syndrome Age Related Conditions Arthritis Bursitis Appetite Hernia Hair Loss Insomnia Memory Loss High Blood Pressure Incontinence Non-Healing Wounds Anti-Aging Circulation Digestion Energy Levels Hair thickness Imbalanced blood markers Imbalanced Hormone markers Sleep Pattern Regulation Skin Vitality Muscle/Fat Ratio Weight Reduction Auto Immune Diseases Crohn’s Disease Lupus Multiple Sclerosis Arthritis Blood Cancers Leukemia Non-Hodgkin’s Lymphoma Multiple Myeloma Blood Diseases Blood Platelet disorder Refractory Anemia Wiscott-Aldrich’s Syndrome Myelodysplasia Diabetes Type 1 Type 2 Heart Disease Atherosclerosis Dilated Cardiomyopathy Congested Heart Failure Myocardial Infarction Hearing Injury related hearing loss Infection related hearing loss Tinnitus Liver Disease Cirrhosis Fibrosis Hepatitis Lung Disease Bronchial Asthma COPD Lung Cancer Progressive Dyspnea Muscle Disease Duchanne’s Muscular Dystrophy Neurological Injuries Spinal cord injury Nerve injury chronic and acute stroke Traumatic Brain Injury Neurological Diseases Autism Basal Ganglia Epilepsy Cerebral Palsy Parkinson’s disease Rhett’s Syndrome Migraine Headaches Amyotrophic Lateral Sclerosis ALS Guilliam Barre Basal Ganglia Nonmalignant Diseases Aplastic anemia Adrenoleukodystrophy Sickle Cell Anemia Fanconi anemia Refractory anemia Thalassemia Gunther disease Hunter syndrome Kostmann syndrome Severe combined immunodeficiency Wiskott-Aldrich syndrome Ocular Conditions Glaucoma Macular Degeneration Retinitis Pigmentosa Organ/Tissue Cancers Breast Cancer Chemo Rescue Colon Cancer Lung Cancer Pancreatic Cancer Prostate Cancer Malignant Melanoma All cancers apply Melanoma Liver Cancer Renal Cancer Psychological Disorders Attention Deficit Disorder Depression Obsessive Compulsive Disorder Preventative Medicine Circulation Hair thickness Digestion Energy levels Skin Vitality Muscle/Fat Ratio Weight Regulation Sleep Pattern regulation Imbalance blood markers Imbalance Hormone markers Renal Disease Macroscopic Hematuria Renal Cancer Skin Disease Polymyositis Viral Conditions Epstein Barr Hepatitis Lyme disease HIV AIDS  MORE INFORMATION: 1) http://www.usnews.com/blogs/heart-to-heart/2009/3/4/why-embryonic-stem-cells-are\ -obsolete.html?s_cid=rss:heart-to-heart:why-embryonic-stem-cell  2) http://www.stemcell docs.org/ Media_Room. html  Fact: The FDA announced their recent position that adult stem cells (cells found in everyone's body) are " drugs " and should be monitored, controlled and regulated by the FDA. The FDA will be able to tell you when and how they can be used. Even if your life could be saved by a stem cell transplant from your own body and to your own body, you may first have to receive approval from the FDA before getting treatment.  3) The FDA recognize that Adult Stem Cell benefit 73 diseases/disorders go to this link: http://www.stemcellresearch.org/facts/treatments.htm  4) http://www.ageofautism.com/2008/07/stem-cells-the.html#more   5) http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=BitVZLX58yg & feature=related Love, Gabby. :0) http://stemcellforautism.blogspot.com/  " I know of nobody who is purely Autistic or purely neurotypical. Even God had some Autistic moments, which is why the planets all spin. " ~ Jerry Newport   Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 31, 2009 Report Share Posted March 31, 2009 Duke University cannot treat any other disease other than the ones that the FDA and Big Pharmas allow them to do in trials... Not because it wouldn't help other disease but because it is a question of POLITICS and $$$$$ Love, Gabby. :0) http://stemcellforautism.blogspot.com/ " I know of nobody who is purely Autistic or purely neurotypical. Even God had some Autistic moments, which is why the planets all spin. " ~ Jerry Newport Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 25, 2010 Report Share Posted August 25, 2010 Hi I have not heard the 1 to 4 years before where are you getting that information from? In a message dated 25/08/2010 15:46:13 GMT Daylight Time, susan_fund@... writes: Just curious if anyone has any insight into whether stem cells could help heal the body faster. I know the protocol takes one to four years so I was wondering if by getting stem cells it would help heal the body faster. Since stem cells are so expensive I do not want to waste any more money/time if the viruses are just going to ruin the new cells too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 25, 2010 Report Share Posted August 25, 2010 No, stem cells would not. on RN, MSN Stem Cells Just curious if anyone has any insight into whether stem cells could help heal the body faster. I know the protocol takes one to four years so I was wondering if by getting stem cells it would help heal the body faster. Since stem cells are so expensive I do not want to waste any more money/time if the viruses are just going to ruin the new cells too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 26, 2010 Report Share Posted August 26, 2010 I am interested in information about stem cells also. How do you know stem cells will not help the body heal faster or help regulate the immune system. Can you please explain your answer. Thanks Kathy > > > No, stem cells would not. > > on RN, MSN > > > > > > > > Stem Cells > > > > > Just curious if anyone has any insight into whether stem cells could help heal the body faster. I know the protocol takes one to four years so I was wondering if by getting stem cells it would help heal the body faster. Since stem cells are so expensive I do not want to waste any more money/time if the viruses are just going to ruin the new cells too. > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 26, 2010 Report Share Posted August 26, 2010 I know that there is a stem cell board but I just want to get a different perspective. Kathy > > > > > > No, stem cells would not. > > > > on RN, MSN > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Stem Cells > > > > > > > > > > Just curious if anyone has any insight into whether stem cells could help heal the body faster. I know the protocol takes one to four years so I was wondering if by getting stem cells it would help heal the body faster. Since stem cells are so expensive I do not want to waste any more money/time if the viruses are just going to ruin the new cells too. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 28, 2010 Report Share Posted August 28, 2010 I don't know the answer to your question but just ran across this. http://www.wabi.tv/news/12583/stem-cell-treatment-doing-wonders-for-autistic-gle\ nburn-boy > > > > > > No, stem cells would not. > > > > on RN, MSN > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Stem Cells > > > > > > > > > > Just curious if anyone has any insight into whether stem cells could help heal the body faster. I know the protocol takes one to four years so I was wondering if by getting stem cells it would help heal the body faster. Since stem cells are so expensive I do not want to waste any more money/time if the viruses are just going to ruin the new cells too. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 12, 2010 Report Share Posted October 12, 2010 Dear Ruth, I am sorry but I have no answer to your question. I am not a scientist, I find articles from journals that I find interesting and that some in the group can relate to. If this is something you would like to pursue or have issues with, you could research and report to us any articles that will back up your theory. Some may want to engage you, or just read it for the sake of reading it. I have no agenda, I just share what I find, I never try to be offensive in any way, but it is something in the news frequently. I just report it for the news. Perhaps I am one of the ignorant ones, because I don't understand your stance. I was not aware that there was any deception in citing the story of the Unsent Letter about someone who was supposedly " cured " through a stem cell transplant, I was merely posting the story to show how much progress has been made with stem cells. Whether we are ready for it or not, it is the future according to all of the articles I have read. I do not post " junk science " and back up everthing with my source. It is my understanding that cord blood can be stored for some time. I have heard of women who had children in their 40's in order to save the cord blood to save an older child who needed a transplant. I was corresponding with a woman from Puerto Rico who was doing just that. Some people save the cord blood from their children's birth in case they would ever need it for the children at a later date. If you have articles professing a different angle that is more in line with your thinking, there is nothing to prevent you for posting it. We would welcome it. You may or may not get a response. Not everything I post gets the attention this post has, some have no response at all. I do this on a voluntary basis, but if enough people complain or protest these posts, then there is no reason for me to spend my time doing it. Carpe diem, Lottie Duthu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 13, 2010 Report Share Posted October 13, 2010 > > > ----- Forwarded Message ----- > From: " marcon " <marcon@...> > CML > Subject: stem cells > Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2010 09:13:00 -0400 > > Dear Lottie, > > My irritation wasn't with you at all. I did some research > because I wanted to know the source. The emphasis on " adult > stem cells " didn't ring true to me. What I found is a > connection to the Family Research Council, an organization > of the Christian right, Dobson's group. They oppose > embryonic stem cell research & many other things. > > I don't doubt you or your intentions for even a second. And > I meant no personal criticism. I was reacting to the source > & their political agenda. > > My best > > Ruth ____________________________ Hi Ruth and Lottie, I was just about to write that I did not feel that Ruth's post was any criticism of Lottie, who simply posted some information. Ruth, I am glad that you brought the information above to the list. I am with you on not agreeing with their political agenda...but this is something for each of us to decide (and at times it is dictated by our religion). C. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 13, 2011 Report Share Posted September 13, 2011 I think it would depend on whether they were a match. I wish more people would donate the cord after birth to the national registry. On 9/13/11, May <cdmay50@...> wrote: > This is a little out there for me but listening to my > daughter and daughter-in-law talk over the weekend, they > said that in childbirth they are asked if they want to keep > the placenta, etc. for future stem cell use. I am assuming > that this is a fairly new practice. Would grandchildren's > stem cells work with a CLL patient or is it just siblings? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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