Guest guest Posted January 25, 2002 Report Share Posted January 25, 2002 Hi Leonard! I have passed your email along to my friend's son. I must tell you that I also found it very informative and helpful for myself, as I just started seriously juicing this week. My friend's situation has sort of awakened me from my own slumber. Last year in October and November I started juicing, but by December I was into chocolates and Christmas baking. (...and I thought I was doing poorly in October and November! ;-) LOL Anyway, I am seriously working on juicing now. Thanks for sharing! Oh yes, what do you think of V-8 juice? I saw V-8 juice mentioned and it sure would help, because I find this juicing very draining of my limited energy. Kind regards, Trudy Message: 8 Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2002 01:47:58 EST From: leonardleonard1@... Subject: Re: juicing Dear Trudy, In a message dated 01/25/2002 12:19:57 AM Eastern Standard Time, tnewman@... writes: > Is it only carrot juice or are there other veggies that he should be juicing? > Is is 8 8 oz. glasses daily? My impression is that 4 8oz glasses of carrot juice is the most common quantity of carrot juice used. I can't make any recommendations specifically for your friend. Below is some general info on juicing for cancer patients: Vegetable Juicing A major component of Gerson therapy is fresh-pressed carrot and green-leaf juices containing romaine lettuce, watercress, escarole, endive, red cabbage, beet tops (young inner leaves), swiss chard & spinach. I'd also juice broccoli sprouts and mung bean sprouts (Please note that much of my info is copied from Moonbeam). Beet juice also have powerful cancer-healing effects; however, there's a controversy over its use because of its high sugar content and glycemic index. Accordingly, I would juice only a few beets at a time, mixed w/other (preferably green) vegetables (This last sentence also applies to carrots, as well as beets). Fruit Juicing-- Gerson therapy also includes the drinking of organic (green) APPLE (20oz/day) and ORANGE (8oz/day) juice (note: Tangeretin, bioflavanoid in oranges, may interfere w/tamoxifen). I would juice lemon and lime together w/the orange. I would also juice KIWI and green/unripe PAPAYA (particularly for their proteolytic enzymes), as well as a few organic grapes (Grape juice is reportedly effective w/lung & prostate cancer and leukemia, but only juice a few grapes at a time considering their high sugar content). Some recommend juicing organic unpeeled pineapple (for its bromelain), including its stem, but (erring on the side of caution) I wouldn't (primarily because of pineapple's high glycemic index) but instead would take high dosages of bromelain supplements, ideally Wobenzyme. CAUTIONS: Fresh-pressed juice strongly detoxifies the body, but this results in an accumulation of toxins in the liver. Accordingly, if you drink large amounts of fresh-pressed juice, it is critical to also DETOXIFY THE LIVER. Coffee enemas are the standard and most powerful liver detox method and are used by many alt. cancer practitioners, but I would consult a health practitioner before using them. Joyce has posted some excellent info re: liver detox. Beet juice and certain herbs and homeopathic remedies also help flush/detoxify the liver, but I don't know if they're sufficient for someone drinking large amounts of fresh-pressed juice. Milk thistle helps protect the liver, and I would definitely use it too. Best wishes, Leonard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 25, 2002 Report Share Posted January 25, 2002 --- Trudy Newman <tnewman@...> wrote: > Hi Leonard! > > I have passed your email along to my friend's son. > I must tell you > that I also found it very informative and helpful > for myself, as I > just started seriously juicing this week. My > friend's situation has > sort of awakened me from my own slumber. Last year > in October and > November I started juicing, but by December I was > into chocolates and > Christmas baking. (...and I thought I was doing > poorly in October and > November! ;-) LOL Anyway, I am seriously working > on juicing now. > Thanks for sharing! > > Oh yes, what do you think of V-8 juice? I saw V-8 > juice mentioned and > it sure would help, because I find this juicing very > draining of my > limited energy. > > Kind regards, > Trudy > > Message: 8 > Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2002 01:47:58 EST > From: leonardleonard1@... > Subject: Re: juicing > > Dear Trudy, > In a message dated 01/25/2002 12:19:57 AM Eastern > Standard Time, > tnewman@... writes: > > Is it only carrot juice or are there other > veggies that he should > be juicing? > > Is is 8 8 oz. glasses daily? > My impression is that 4 8oz glasses of carrot juice > is the most > common quantity of carrot juice used. > > I can't make any recommendations specifically for > your friend. Below > is some general info on juicing for cancer patients: > > Vegetable Juicing > A major component of Gerson therapy is fresh-pressed > carrot and > green-leaf juices containing romaine lettuce, > watercress, escarole, > endive, red cabbage, beet tops (young inner leaves), > swiss chard & > spinach. I'd also juice broccoli sprouts and mung > bean sprouts (Please > note that much of my info is copied from Moonbeam). > Beet > juice also have powerful cancer-healing effects; > however, there's a > controversy over its use because of its high sugar > content and > glycemic index. Accordingly, I would juice only a > few beets at a time, > mixed w/other (preferably green) vegetables (This > last > sentence also applies to carrots, as well as beets). > > Fruit Juicing-- Gerson therapy also includes the > drinking of organic > (green) APPLE (20oz/day) and ORANGE (8oz/day) juice > (note: Tangeretin, > bioflavanoid in oranges, may interfere w/tamoxifen). > I would juice > lemon and lime together w/the orange. I would also > juice KIWI and > green/unripe PAPAYA (particularly for their > proteolytic enzymes), as > well as a few organic grapes (Grape juice is > reportedly effective > w/lung & prostate cancer and leukemia, but only > juice a few grapes at > a time considering their high sugar content). Some > recommend juicing > organic unpeeled pineapple (for its bromelain), > including its stem, > but (erring on the side of caution) I wouldn't > (primarily because of > pineapple's high glycemic index) but instead would > take high dosages > of > bromelain supplements, ideally Wobenzyme. > > CAUTIONS: Fresh-pressed juice strongly detoxifies > the body, but this > results in an accumulation of toxins in the liver. > Accordingly, if > you drink large amounts of fresh-pressed juice, it > is critical to also > DETOXIFY THE LIVER. Coffee enemas are the standard > and most powerful > liver detox method and are used by many alt. cancer > practitioners, but I would consult a health > practitioner before using > them. Joyce has posted some excellent info re: liver > detox. Beet juice > and certain herbs and homeopathic remedies also help > flush/detoxify > the liver, but I don't know if they're sufficient > for someone drinking > large amounts of fresh-pressed juice. Milk thistle > helps protect the > liver, and I would definitely use it too. > > Best wishes, > Leonard > > Leonard my name is darlene and my sister is on tamoxifen and she eats oranges all the time, does that interfere with tamoxifen? with about orange juice or lemon juice or lemonade? please help as nobody including the doctor has told her about this! > > > > > __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 19, 2002 Report Share Posted May 19, 2002 Rhonda, What is juicing? Never heard anything like that. If it is herbal I wouldn't even consider it. It is best to follow your doctors advice and treatment. I have never heard of anyone having miracles while using herbs. I can't help but think it is the power of suggestion that helps people. I use to have a TV show I shot in the metaphysical stores all the time. I shot in the Springs the fares they put on. And while trusting in a spiritual way I still never talked of miracles. I just don't want to see any of you hurt, looking for an alternate way to heal yourself is not there let your doctors care for you. We know their treatments work because it has been positively proven. There is no studies done for herbs. gayle/trans.6-99 galye@... @` \I/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 19, 2002 Report Share Posted May 19, 2002 Gayle: Juicing is taking your fruits and/or vegetables and putting them in a " juicer " it extracts the juice (vitamins and minerals) from the source to make it easier to digest. You don't cook out the vitamins, but get the vitamins by drinking it rather than eating it. Since, we have trouble digesting some foods. Like drinking cranberry or orange juice rather than eating cranberries or oranges. You do this with fruits and vegetables, like spinach and carrats, etc. I might be wrong, but I don't believe there to be an herbal context to this, unless you added it yourself. Thanks, Rhonda/TN > Rhonda, > What is juicing? Never heard anything like that. If it is herbal I wouldn't > even consider it. It is best to follow your doctors advice and treatment. I > have never heard of anyone having miracles while using herbs. I can't help > but think it is the power of suggestion that helps people. I use to have a TV > show I shot in the metaphysical stores all the time. I shot in the Springs > the fares they put on. And while trusting in a spiritual way I still never > talked of miracles. I just don't want to see any of you hurt, looking for an > alternate way to heal yourself is not there let your doctors care for you. We > know their treatments work because it has been positively proven. There is no > studies done for herbs. > > gayle/trans.6-99 > galye@a... @` > \I/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 21, 2002 Report Share Posted May 21, 2002 what exactly do you mean by juicing? fasting on juice or adding it to your existing diet? what sort of juice? vegetable? you mean making it at home? curious...kathy > I wanted to ask you guys what your thoughts or experiences are with > Juicing. I'm receiving info. on friends that have used juicing as a > means to heal themselves and are receiving incredible results. One > dear friend's wife is battling cancer, and started juicing and now > it has gone into remission. Another just called and shared with me > the story of his wife that was sent home with cirrhosis of the liver > with only five percent working. Said the dr.s sent her home to > die...so they did research and started juicing and her liver has > completely healed itself. He also mentioned that Milk Thistle is an > incredible liver restorer. > > I also ran into a woman while waiting for my biopsy that began > telling me about juicing and how it has healed many of her diseases. > I don't know whether this is just an odd twist of fate or whether > God is trying to knock information into my thick skull and I've been > too dense to get it. Can you share with me your experiences, if > any, with this method? > > Sincerely, > Rhonda/TN Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 21, 2002 Report Share Posted May 21, 2002 years ago i used to fast on water and juice using a juicer. when i came back from the hospital last fall i made vegetable juice once a day for months. it made me feel like i was doing something positive for myself. i used such foods as parsley, carrots, apples, celery, etc. there are books out on what foods go together. best to use organice and if you can't, best not to use the peels...i don't think it is a miracle thing, but if you don't add anything besides the fruits or vegetables i can't imagine how it could hurt anyone. kathy > > Rhonda, > > What is juicing? Never heard anything like that. If it is herbal I > wouldn't > > even consider it. It is best to follow your doctors advice and > treatment. I > > have never heard of anyone having miracles while using herbs. I > can't help > > but think it is the power of suggestion that helps people. I use > to have a TV > > show I shot in the metaphysical stores all the time. I shot in the > Springs > > the fares they put on. And while trusting in a spiritual way I > still never > > talked of miracles. I just don't want to see any of you hurt, > looking for an > > alternate way to heal yourself is not there let your doctors care > for you. We > > know their treatments work because it has been positively proven. > There is no > > studies done for herbs. > > > > gayle/trans.6-99 > > galye@a... @` > > \I/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 22, 2002 Report Share Posted May 22, 2002 Kathy: I was just thinking about adding it to my diet for extra nutrition. I know I don't eat what I should, and it sounded so nutritious and logical, but just wanted some input. Thank you for your other reply with your experience. That really helped. But I'm frightened of apples...I love them too much. I got over excited about them several years ago, and ate six in one day and had to be taken to the hospital. (Too much fiber...LOL) I've never been a fan of spinach, but maybe juice is another matter altogether? You know thinking about it and actually doing it are two different things. I would have to actually buy a juicer and then look up recipes and then buy produce and then make it....I'm tired just thinking about it! LOL Thanks again, Rhonda > > I wanted to ask you guys what your thoughts or experiences are with > > Juicing. I'm receiving info. on friends that have used juicing as a > > means to heal themselves and are receiving incredible results. One > > dear friend's wife is battling cancer, and started juicing and now > > it has gone into remission. Another just called and shared with me > > the story of his wife that was sent home with cirrhosis of the > liver > > with only five percent working. Said the dr.s sent her home to > > die...so they did research and started juicing and her liver has > > completely healed itself. He also mentioned that Milk Thistle is > an > > incredible liver restorer. > > > > I also ran into a woman while waiting for my biopsy that began > > telling me about juicing and how it has healed many of her > diseases. > > I don't know whether this is just an odd twist of fate or whether > > God is trying to knock information into my thick skull and I've > been > > too dense to get it. Can you share with me your experiences, if > > any, with this method? > > > > Sincerely, > > Rhonda/TN Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 28, 2002 Report Share Posted May 28, 2002 Dear Maureen, I haven't had much luck with fasting, though I do try different types of fasts. As soon as my blood sugar drops, I begin to disappear into absence seizures, and I frighten everyone around me. My most severe seizures have been when I have had low or no calorie intake, whether voluntarily or un-voluntarily. Having said that, I have learned that there are ways to gain the benefits of fasting without wreaking havoc with my body. Sometimes I eliminate meat (dangerous for blood type O) for a short period of time to help my body cleanse itself. Giving up simplified sugars, starches, night-shade vegetables, fruits or other types of foods for a while sometimes helps me. I try to focus on one food or food group, rather than giving up all food. (In truth, I rarely eat simplified sugars or starches because they create an unhealthy dynamic for me.) Personally, I have learned never to go without some type of caloric intake, though I know many other people who thrive on fasting. Along with any type of " fast " I undertake, I also make sure I'm drinking plenty of water. It sounds to me like you have a good handle on your fasting, though, by taking it slow. You are obviously being much wiser than I was when I started on this journey! Regarding the juicer, I have a minor comment. When I use my JuiceMan juicer, I save the fiber gleened from the fruits and or veggies, and use it to make bread, or even cakes. One experimental recipe included zucchini, carrots, apples, strawberries, oranges and some other vegetables (spinach didn't work well in this recipe). I used almond flour, tapioca flour, potato starch and rice flour, threw in some raisins and nuts, and " Viola!, " I had a very nice, moist, carrot cake without sugar or wheat. My family even liked it! I hope my comments are helpful to you! Best wishes, Carrol napsac2 <maureen@...> wrote: Hey all! I don't remember who asked this question about bananas...but! I am doing the same and in my book, " juice fasting and detoxification, " the author says which fruits to AVOID - as they are non-juicable. They are WONDERFUL fruits, but non-juicable. They are papaya, coconut, banana, strawberry, cantalope, honeydew, peach, plum/prune, apricot and avocado =( my favorite. If you are really into juice FASTING, for a few days...to even a month, explains of the benefits, things to avoid, the before and after of a juicing...etc. My question to all is: I am a bit nervous going into this because of the meds I take (felbatol, lamictol). This morning, I began my first fasting. I was excited and I felt my health was on the way. Sitting there drinking my carrot and plum juice, I stared at my drugs, had my typical morning seizure.. (petit mal...staring into lala land..)and when I came back, I thought, oh man! How will my organs feel about this? So, I am in the SLOW process of detoxification. I think doing this will help my energy boost, as well, it will get me ready to find the proper diet to avoid seizures. BUT, I the drugs with lack of proper foods, will make my system go bonkers. My goal is to slowly drop these meds forever! However, I am nervous. Any input? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 7, 2002 Report Share Posted August 7, 2002 Carrots and apples combined is a good start to get you used to it, also cantalope, watermelon, cucumber, zuccini, kale, beets, cabbage, parsely andr combinations of those. Buy a book with recipes and the properties of the foods. rheumatic juicing I like carrots, and apples. A little celery as the taste can be quite strong, broccoli stems, and some ginger for a little zing if you like. It's delicious, to me.HTHTo unsubscribe, email: rheumatic-unsubscribeegroups Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 12, 2002 Report Share Posted December 12, 2002 , I avoid drinking juices. Juices affect me like any other refined carbohydrate. I gave them up many years ago and find that I feel a lot better for having done so. And I don't trust much of anything that or Greg Null says. Best wishes, Celeste P. wrote: > Anyone here do any juicing or combination juicing for the immune > system?? I'd always heard that juicing is actually very fattening as > it is all high carbs. I was watching a show on Greg Null ( ??) > talking about alternative medicines and eating correctly which > includes juicing 3-4 times a day. Interesting, but I'm not sure if I > buy it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 16, 2002 Report Share Posted December 16, 2002 In a message dated 12/11/2002 8:23:05 PM Pacific Standard Time, nabie67@... writes: > Anyone here do any juicing or combination juicing for the immune > system?? Dear , Recently I received a link to info about juicing on the Mercola site. I felt inspired by the encouragement in that piece to think about juicing again. However, Mercola said you should eat the pulp, too, mixing it back in with 25% of the reserved juice. I didn't want to spend the time juicing if I had to add back the pulp I just decided to blend freshe greens together into a breakfast smoothie; I'm liking it so far! I puree fresh celery, greens that aren't goitrogens, parsely, and a cup of non-sweetened pineapple juice together in a blender. Then I add about a teaspoon of spirulina, a couple of tablespoons of rice protein powder shake, and a couple of tablespoons flax seed I've just ground in an old coffee grinder. I started this because my liver has been giving me a lot of pain this past year and I reasoned the greens would help me with that specific problem. The liver pain has decreased over the past two weeks. Also, the ground flax seed seems to be helping my skin feel softer and the other greens and spirulina give me a little more energy. I don't fall asleep on the couch until about 9:30 p.m. For awhile, I was a goner about 8 p.m. if I sat down! I tried doing just the juice, spirulina, and flax meal alone but the old low blood sugar swing started in about mid-morning. Adding the protein powder has made this tolerable for me again and my brain keeps humming through until lunch. I picked the pineapple juice because it's supposed to be beneficial for blood type O. Same with the parsley. The D'Adamo guy who wrote the Blood Type diet book insists spinach has important elements in it for thyroid balance, so even though I've seen it on lists of goitrogens, I put a few in that drink every two or three days. I haven't noticed any increased pain in my thyroid since I've started that, in fact, my thyroid pain may have diminished a little. Best health, in LA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 16, 2002 Report Share Posted December 16, 2002 other greens and spirulina give me a little more energy. - I may be wrong but I thought I read that spirulina was bad for thyroid sufferers. I'm not positive though. You seem so in tuned with your body - that's great!! _________________________________________________________________ Help STOP SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 17, 2002 Report Share Posted December 17, 2002 In a message dated 12/16/2002 4:49:58 PM Pacific Standard Time, karlynn17@... writes: > I may be wrong but I thought I read that spirulina was bad for > thyroid sufferers. Dear , Well, I've never heard that before. So far, it seems to be working for me. I don't take the recommended amount; I only use 1-2 tsp. I'll let you know if I begin to experience untoward symptoms! Thanks for the warning, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 20, 2002 Report Share Posted December 20, 2002 Isn’t spirulina a form of algae? I used Klamath Lake Blue-Green Algae for about 2 weeks and had obvious symptoms (bloating, itching, etc) and have since seen in _Live Right for Your Type_ (Dr. D’Adamo) that it is an avoid food for O blood types. You might try leaving it out of your shakes for a couple of weeks then adding it back in to see how you feel. Sometimes we don’t realize something makes us feel bad until we reintroduce it in our diet. It doesn’t take much yeast or algae to affect you either. 1 – 2 tsp is a lot. Hope this helps! Juli In a message dated 12/16/2002 4:49:58 PM Pacific Standard Time, karlynn17@... writes: > I may be wrong but I thought I read that spirulina was bad for > thyroid sufferers. Dear Well, I've never heard that before. So far, it seems to be working for me. I don't take the recommended amount; I only use 1-2 tsp. I'll let you know if I begin to experience untoward symptoms! Thanks for the warning, --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.427 / Virus Database: 240 - Release Date: 12/6/2002 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 20, 2002 Report Share Posted December 20, 2002 In a message dated 12/20/2002 3:54:39 AM Pacific Standard Time, happycampersfour@... writes: > I used Klamath Lake Blue-Green Algae > for about 2 weeks and had obvious symptoms (bloating, itching, etc) and > have since seen in _Live Right for Your Type_ (Dr. D’Adamo) that it is > an avoid food for O blood types. You might try leaving it out of your > shakes for a couple of weeks then adding it back in to see how you feel. > Sometimes we don’t realize something makes us feel bad until we > reintroduce it in our diet. > Thanks! I'll try it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 2, 2004 Report Share Posted January 2, 2004 Any auggested receipes for starting out in juicing please??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 28, 2004 Report Share Posted March 28, 2004 Have any of you folks tried making your own vegetable " juice " ? I have heard it is a wonderful way of obtaining a lot of the nutrients we need. . ..I am investigating and was wondering if anyone out there has had any success. Alfieri Dr. R 5/27/03 312/225 _________________________________________________________________ Get tax tips, tools and access to IRS forms – all in one place at MSN Money! http://moneycentral.msn.com/tax/home.asp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 30, 2004 Report Share Posted March 30, 2004 : yes, I got the Jack LaLanne juicer for Christmas and love it. You can make fruit juices, vegetables juices or combine fruit and juice. Just try and have carrot juice, or cucumbers and celery....anything works great. You just can't use bananas in them as they are too soft. It is a very good investment. Dee -- In , " Alfieri " <moya606@h...> wrote: > Have any of you folks tried making your own vegetable " juice " ? I have > heard it is a wonderful way of obtaining a lot of the nutrients we need. . > .I am investigating and was wondering if anyone out there has had any > success. > > Alfieri > Dr. R > 5/27/03 > 312/225 > > _________________________________________________________________ > Get tax tips, tools and access to IRS forms – all in one place at MSN Money! > http://moneycentral.msn.com/tax/home.asp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 30, 2004 Report Share Posted March 30, 2004 my co-worker got a juicer once and it took 30 minutes and $3 worth of veggies to make 12 ounces of some kind of carrot apple broccoli concoction! i tried it once and was SO glad i didnt buy the juicer./..... just my experience with juicers they sell on TV (almost $200) maybe there is some other way to " juice " ... i will stick with V8 LOL! xoxoxo cs in va > Have any of you folks tried making your own vegetable " juice " ? I have > heard it is a wonderful way of obtaining a lot of the nutrients we need. . > .I am investigating and was wondering if anyone out there has had any > success. > > Alfieri > Dr. R > 5/27/03 > 312/225 > > _________________________________________________________________ > Get tax tips, tools and access to IRS forms – all in one place at MSN Money! > http://moneycentral.msn.com/tax/home.asp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 20, 2004 Report Share Posted May 20, 2004 raw cream...right. like that is everywhere :-) juicing The key with juicing is to use some carrot and beet, but then do the remainder with low-glycemic vegetables. If I am remembering right, Sally Fallon suggests adding a tablespoon of raw cream to the juice. This slows down the blood sugar spike, and also enhances the absorption of the nutrients in the vegetable juice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 20, 2004 Report Share Posted May 20, 2004 hehe, thanks, i'm busting your chops.... ;-) Re: juicing raw cream...right. like that is everywhere :-) You're right. I'm sorry. I wasn't thinking when I wrote that. Actually, Sally Fallon says you can use regular cream from the store, just not to use the ultra-pasteurized kind. I did check at our grocery store here (Minnesota) and they had regular whipping cream, and then the ultra-pasteurized kind. At the health food store, all the organic cream says ultra-pasteurized. I wonder why that is? Anyway, I'm sure that regular cream would also do the trick. (-: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 30, 2005 Report Share Posted May 30, 2005 Eve, Charlotte Gerson, Dr. Gerson daughter, is still alive and active on the lecture circuit regarding the Gerson Protocol, and she has a book out. She is 81. She feels that there are juices that are more easily digested or absorbed by humans than wheat grass which is more suited to a bovine four stomach digestive process. She recommends things like cabbage juice instead of wheat grass. Just my two cents. I wouldn't mind seeing a discussion on this for everyone's edification. Also, would anyone have any knowledge as to whether or not fruits should be avoided? I was under the impression that table suger was bad being half glucose and easily absorbed through the stomach lining, thus spiking your suger level and feeding the cancer. But I thought fruits were OK as most of them contain fructose which has to be processed by the liver to turn it into glucose, thus releasing the glucose in a more controlled manner. Any one know anything along these lines? Syd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 30, 2005 Report Share Posted May 30, 2005 > Also, would anyone have any knowledge as to whether or not fruits should be > avoided? I was under the impression that table suger was bad being half > glucose and easily absorbed through the stomach lining, thus spiking your > suger level and feeding the cancer. But I thought fruits were OK as most of > them contain fructose which has to be processed by the liver to turn it into > glucose, thus releasing the glucose in a more controlled manner. > > Any one know anything along these lines? > > Syd ~~~Syd, if you can get a copy of Quillin's latest book (or even the one before it), these questions can be answered for you. He was on staff at Cancer Centers of America in Tulsa for a long time. I have two of his books and they have been invaluable to me. The new one has a CD tucked into a pocket of the back cover for those who feel too ill to read. I haven't read it, but reading the first one of his gave me a peace about what I should do at a time when I was so worried and confused. I personally would avoid eating much fruit (especially bananas and the sweeter fruits), as people with cancer most often have fungus/candida overgrowth and sugars of all kinds (except for the glyconutrient sugars, I guess) will feed these organisms. Dr. Quillin's book also addresses this subject, I'm pretty sure. I purchased and read two of Dr. Wm Crook's books which helped educate me on the subject of yeast overgrowth and chronic illnesses. Good luck to you, bg > Eve, > > Charlotte Gerson, Dr. Gerson daughter, is still alive and active on the > lecture circuit regarding the Gerson Protocol, and she has a book out. She > is 81. She feels that there are juices that are more easily digested or > absorbed by humans than wheat grass which is more suited to a bovine four > stomach digestive process. She recommends things like cabbage juice > instead of wheat grass. > > Just my two cents. I wouldn't mind seeing a discussion on this for > everyone's edification. > > Also, would anyone have any knowledge as to whether or not fruits should be > avoided? I was under the impression that table suger was bad being half > glucose and easily absorbed through the stomach lining, thus spiking your > suger level and feeding the cancer. But I thought fruits were OK as most of > them contain fructose which has to be processed by the liver to turn it into > glucose, thus releasing the glucose in a more controlled manner. > > Any one know anything along these lines? > > Syd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 30, 2005 Report Share Posted May 30, 2005 Eve...thank you so much for the wheatgrass information. I didn't realize that it could be so easily grown. Thanks again. Eve <eve@...> wrote: As for growing wheatgrass, I don't have any fancy equipment. I use shallow square trays that I bought at the plant store which are made to go under square pots. They don't have to be more than an inch deep. I soak the wheatberries and then lay them one seed thick on the flats, which are filled with soil. Cover for several days, then uncover and expose to indirect light. Water, but not too much. If there is some mold, it's ok - just cut above the mold with scissors when you harvest. Look online for more detailed info about growing - it's not hard! I can buy wheatberries in bulk at my co-op - they are also available on-line - do a search for wheatgrass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 31, 2005 Report Share Posted December 31, 2005 Hi, Here is some information on juicing vegetables. It's a great guide with the values of different vegetables. Kenda Vegetable Juice Guide by Ron Lagerquist Beets Famous for their ability to cleanse the blood, beets contain calcium, sulfur, iron, potassium, choline, beta-carotene, and vitamin C. Beets are also high in minerals that strengthen the liver and gall bladder, and are the building blocks for blood corpuscles and cells. Beet greens are excellent for salads and juicing. Beet greens are a good source of carotenoids that help in the prevention of all types of cancers. They are high in manganese, an important mineral for brain function. Beet juice is very concentrated. Do not drink it alone. Dilute with a milder juice such as carrot or apple. Beet juice has been proven therapeutic in the treatment of leukemia and cancer. In a clinical trial, twenty-two patients with advanced inoperable cancers were given 10 oz. of beet juice daily for 3 to 4 months. Twenty-one of these patients showed marked improvement in health. Beets cause the stool to turn red and may give the urine a reddish tinge. When juicing beets, alternate between pieces of beets and pieces of carrots otherwise the beet pulp tends to build up on the side of the spinning extraction basket and causes the juicer to vibrate. Lactofermented beet juice is fermented with lacto bacillus, making it sweeter. On a juice fast, this delicious juice is like a bottle of Champagne. Purchase firm, rock-hard beets. Being a root, they can be stored for months in the refrigerator.  Broccoli  Broccoli is a flower top picked before it blooms. It is dense in nutrition, full of beta-carotene and an excellent source of fiber. Inexpensive and available all year round. It is full of vitamins B1 and C, and has a generous amount of calcium, sulfur, and potassium. Surprisingly, forty-five percent of calories in broccoli are protein. The National Cancer Institute discovered a substance called inderol-3 that emulsifies estrogen, reducing the risk of breast cancer in women. Broccoli is excellent when juiced, stems and all, but like all green vegetables, it should be mixed with lighter juices such as carrot or apple. When buying broccoli, look for tight tops with no yellow, firm but not limp. Will store well for 5 days in the refrigerator. Cabbage A vegetable full of history. It was a mainstay during the great depression but unfortunately was often overcooked and garnished with fat. Cooking cabbage destroys most of its nutritious value and causes gas because of the sulfur. Raw cabbage is an excellent source of beta-carotene, sulfur, vitamin C and the trace mineral selenium, which is excellent for fighting cancer, protecting against heart disease, improving conditions of arthritis, slowing the aging process, encouraging beautiful skin and increasing male potency. Within cabbage is a delicate amino acid called glutamine. This is excellent for healing stomach disorders, including ulcers. When making cabbage juice, it must be consumed within 60 seconds or this precious amino acid will begin to decay. If straight cabbage juice causes gas, mix with carrot and celery. Will keep up to two weeks in the refrigerator. Carrots  Deep within the soils of the earth grows a golden root that has amazed nutritionists and scientists alike in its powerful healing qualities. One 8-oz. glass of carrot juice contains 20,000 mg. of vitamin A. Toxicity can occur when vitamin A is taken in supplement form or in fish oil, but is completely safe in the vegetable form. Vitamin A is an antioxidant that is able to attach to free radicals in the body. The damaging effect of free radicals has been associated with cancer. Carrots are a natural blast of high energy. The sugars are released more quickly than from white sugar but without the harmful effects. A mug of carrot juice in the morning will give you a competitive edge over coffee drinkers. Like all root vegetables, they are packed with minerals. Carrots are rich in organic calcium that is invaluable to bones and teeth. Inorganic calcium is almost useless to the body. The calcium in milk and white bread is inorganic and known to cause arthritis and gallstones. Carrots are an excellent source of vitamin C, including most of the B complex, iron, potassium, phosphorus, and sodium. Carrots are easy to digest and cause the liver to release bile and excessive accumulated cholesterol. They also have an alkalizing effect on the blood, soothing the entire nervous system and toning intestinal walls. Carrot juice is the best base for vegetable juice combinations. It is delicious, sweet and readily accepted by children. Our family can go through a 50-lb. bag every two weeks. Carrot juice is considered the golden juice of healing. Even drinking a few glasses a day has healed many infirmities without fasting. During fasting, its healing effect is increased. Carrot juice helps in cleansing the liver. Drinking large amounts may cause the harmless effect of a slight yellowish color of the skin. Skin will feel velvety soft. The beta-carotene present in the skin is a natural protector for the common skin cancer, melanoma. Also, the slight yellowing of the skin can make a tan look deeper. Juicing two to five pounds of carrots a day is standard for juice fasting. Unless carrots are fresh, the juice tastes better if they are peeled. If you don't have the time to peel them, put the carrots in the sink and scrub with a brush. In purchasing carrots for juicing, your local vegetable wholesaler can supply you with large juicing carrots in 50 lb. bags at an affordable price. Carrots should be firm, smooth-skinned, without cracks or small rootlets. The brighter the orange color, the sweeter the carrots. They will keep for weeks in the refrigerator and months in a root cellar.  Celery Celery is high in magnesium, iron and chlorophyll, which is an excellent blood builder and is one of the richest sources of organic sodium. Excellent for those who enjoy vigorous workouts, maintaining valuable body fluid and electrolytes.  Celery juice is a superb nerve tonic. Celery juice alone tastes a little bitter and is usually mixed with carrots or apples. Great for adding a salty taste to vegetable juices. Do you have a headache? Drink a glass of celery juice. Even the ancient Greeks used celery for the universal problem of headaches. Do you live in the air-polluted inner city? Celery/apple juice is able to cleanse the body of carbon dioxide. Were you thinking of buying an air conditioner? Celery juice cools down the body and is great for hot weather. Are you on a diet and craving a Snickers bar? Celery juice helps curb the craving for sweets. Do you have a problem with muscle cramps and fatigue during workouts? The potassium/sodium balance in celery juice will be a great asset. Always leave the celery leaves on for juicing, but juice the celery last because it is stringy and clogs the juice machine. Look for firm, solid stocks with bright green leaves.  Cucumber Being as cool as a cucumber comes from the fact that the internal temperature of cucumbers remains 20 degrees lower than the external temperature on a hot day. People living in the Middle East and India have been eating cucumbers for hundreds of years as a natural coolant. When buying cucumber for juicing, look for non-waxed which allows you to juice the cucumber in its skin. Always wash vegetables thoroughly before juicing. This juice contains 40% potassium, 10% sodium, 7% calcium, 20% phosphorus and 7% choline. It is an excellent source of silicon. Cucumber is good to rub on your skin, giving it elasticity resulting in a more youthful complexion. It is suspected to help in reducing hair loss. Cucumber juice is usually mixed with other juices. Look for firm cucumbers with a dark green, wrinkle-free skin. Will store in refrigerator for 6 days.  Collards Per calorie, collards have more calcium than milk. Thirty calories of collards equaling one cup, contains an incredible 218 grams of calcium! It is twice as high in vitamin A as carrots. An excellent source of organic, highly absorbable iron, and high in chlorophyll. Look for crisp leaves, free from wilting and without spots.  Fennel If you enjoy the taste of liquorice you will love fennel. This unusual vegetable looks like a fat celery plant with feathers. In fact, it is in the celery family and has much of the same nutritional qualities. Its distinct flavor really spices up a juice or salad. Some have found fennel juice good for relieving migraine headaches and overcoming night blindness. Look for a white, solid bulb with healthy leaves. Will keep in the refrigerator for one week.  Garlic There are entire books written about the curative abilities of garlic. Research suggests that it reduces blood pressure, helps with the problem of blood clotting, lowers the LDL (which increases bad cholesterol), boosts the immune system and encourages recovery in heart attack victims. Garlic's famous smell comes from allicin, which inhibits bacterial growth and fungus. It also helps with an overgrowth of yeast in the body and is used in treating candida. Therefore, do not use odorless garlic pills. If they don't smell, they don¹t work. Garlic increases the flow of digestive enzymes and encourages detoxification through the skin. Despite the odor, garlic is good for you. Throwing a clove of garlic in your vegetable juice every day will be excellent for your health; nonetheless, it may reduce your social life. One clove in the juicer is enough. Five cloves will encourage a life of solitude, unless you can educate all your friends, family and people within a thirty-foot radius of the incredible properties of fresh raw garlic juice! Ginger Root If you feel a cold coming on, or if you have a bout of laryngitis, juicing a small piece of gingerroot with your carrots is a perfect solution. Great for making ginger tea or spicing up herbal tea. For ginger tea, throw slices in boiling water to taste.  Kale Has a similar nutritional quality to its close relative the cabbage. Kale is an excellent source of calcium. Look for solid, deep green leaves. Will store in refrigerator for 5 days. Lettuce  Iceberg lettuce or head lettuce is useless. You might as well drink a glass of water for the same amount of nutritional value. Conversely, the leaves of romaine, Boston, Bibb or any leaf lettuce dark green in color will be rich in chlorophyll. Good source of sulfur, chlorine, silicon, B complex, all contributing to hair growth, healthy skin and defense against lung cancer. Lettuce is a wonderful addition to any vegetable juice. Adding any green, leafy vegetable to juice will add chlorophyll, which immediately enters the bloodstream. Leaves should be crisp with no dark spots. The darker green, the better. Onions Onion is in the garlic family and has many of the same therapeutic properties. Their strong flavor is attributed to a natural oil that strengthens the nervous system and encourages the growth of healthy bacteria. Large, Spanish onions are sweeter and milder in flavor, making them better for juicing. Sliced onion added to a juice mixture is excellent in helping to loosen and rid the body of excess mucus. Look for firm onions with dry, papery skins. Do not store onions in the refrigerator.  Parsley  Ancient civilizations have used parsley in medications, on wounds, poultices, boils, cysts and to draw the pus out of an infected cut. Parsley is one of the highest sources of life-giving chlorophyll, which acts like iron to oxidize the blood. Chlorophyll will help neutralize the strong odor of garlic and is used in chewing gum to sweeten breath. It is a cleanser of the kidneys, liver, and urinary tract. Parsley is effective for upset stomachs by stimulating digestive enzymes. Excellent for the colon by encouraging the peristaltic wave in the intestines. Parsley juice added to vegetable juices will enter directly into the bloodstream, immediately impacting your body. Flat and curly parsley has the same nutritional value. Look for healthy, dark green leaves. Parsley can be grown inside and outside the house. Will store in the refrigerator for a week. Always add parsley with other hard veggies like carrot so it will not affect the juicer. Parsley alone can be hard on a juicer.  Peppers Peppers can come in many different colors. The most common is the green pepper, an unripe red pepper. Red peppers are more expensive but sweeter and higher in vitamin C. Great for the skin and swelling due to arthritis because of the high silicon content. They are an excellent addition to any vegetable juice. Juice seeds, stem and all. Look for smooth, firm, non-waxed peppers. Will keep in refrigerator for one week. Potato An excellent source of vitamin C and high in carbohydrates, potassium, calcium and iron. The most nutritious part of the potato is the skin. During World War I, a group of German soldiers, near starvation, were forced to live on raw potatoes. The soldiers with gastric disorders were relieved and cured. After the war, Dr. J. F. Magerl began treating gastric patients with raw potato juice. After 10 days of the treatment, most of the patients showed no symptoms. Potato juice is a wonderful addition to any vegetable juice. When potatoes are juiced, a white silky paste will form on the bottom of the glass. This is potato starch and is mucus-forming with little nutritional value. Of all the vegetables, potatoes are slightly mucus-forming, but are still a valuable food, especially when juiced. Look for potatoes with eyes, revealing the fact that they are alive with enzymes, ready to sprout, given the opportunity. They should be firm, without black spots and with no green color, which can cause a slightly toxic effect. Never juice a green potato. Will keep well in a cool, dry place for a number of months. Radishes Radish added to vegetable juice will help clear sinus cavities and calm a sore throat.  Spinach Never cook spinach. Oxalic acid is destroyed when heat transforms it into oxalic acid crystals that are harmful to the kidneys. It also binds to iron, making it unabsorbable. Spinach is important due to its chlorophyll content, and also supplies an abundance of nutrients such as oxalic acid, beneficial in the cleansing and healing of the intestinal tract. Spinach juice, mixed with other vegetable juices, turns the mixture brown. Although it may look unsightly, it is a beautiful sight to the cells of the body. Finding good spinach can sometimes be difficult. Look for crisp, dark green leaves. Rinse spinach well, removing sand and grit. Will store in refrigerator for only a few days, as spinach quickly becomes slimy. Sweet Potato (Yam) The darker the color, the higher in vitamin content. Sweet potatoes are one of the greatest sources of beta-carotene. They are plenteous in vitamin C, potassium, carbohydrates, calcium and a good source of fiber. History has shown that people can live exclusively on sweet potatoes and remain healthy and strong. Carrot and sweet potato juice is tasty and outstanding for complexion. Yam can be added to any fruit juice, giving the juice a smooth, milkshake-like taste. Look for firm, not too large yams that are tapered at both ends.  Skin should be smooth without brown spots. Will store in the refrigerator for two weeks.  Tomato Tomatoes may feel a little strange in this list because they are in fact, a fruit. But we assumed anyone looking for tomatoes would go to the Vegetable Section, so here they are. Providing tomatoes are vine-ripened, they are a high source of vitamin C. One tomato is equal to more than 50% of the recommended daily allowance. Good source of organic sodium phosphorus, calcium, potassium, magnesium, malic and oxalic acid and sulfur. The problem is that most tomatoes found in the supermarkets during the off season have the quality, taste and vitamin C content of a baseball. Vine-ripened tomatoes may cost you a little more because of the difficulty in shipping, but it is well worth the money in nutritional value. It is an absolute must to grow your own succulent, sweet tomatoes. Even if you live in an apartment, there are hybrids that have been created especially for growing in pots. We have tomato plants growing in every possible corner around our home. Tomato juice has a wonderful taste that is quite different from store-bought juice, which is boiled and stored in cans for months. The health-giving acids in tomatoes are beneficial to the body unless heated or canned. Look for bright red, soft, sweet smelling tomatoes. They ought to be plump, heavy and filled with juice. Always buy from your local farmer, when in season. Do not juice green tomatoes that may irritate the kidneys.     If you like what you are  reading order. . .     By: Ron Laqerquist  detoxification, healing, colon      cleansing spiritual renewal, self- control refreshed relationship with God how to prepare and safely end a      fast overcome addiction delicious fresh juice recipes many encouraging fasting      testimonies   TO ORDER: Available in soft cover book, or digital E-Book     Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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