Re: Scared to drink Kombucha now

[Guest guest]

Now see, I totally disagree with . I seal mine all the time,

and don't have any issues. Those " gasses " --> AKA carbon dioxide.

(Which also exists often in non-sealed kombucha.)

Just IMHO.

And , please do post the link re. the Russian ladies! :-)

Vicki in Orlando

>

> From: Nita Bowman <aware8@...>

> Subject: Scared to drink Kombucha now

> kombucha tea

> Date: Thursday, January 14, 2010, 9:38 PM

>

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> Hi everyone,

>

> I apologize if these questions have been answered. I have not been able to

use the family computer to read my kombucha messages lately. I have just

finished reading a book called Kombucha How-To and What It's All About by Alana

Pascal and Lynne Van Der Kar. The authors are very strict on it's use and

emphasize more than once that they don't want people to misuse KT and cause it

to become illegal. They recommend that children do not drink it, that adults

not have more than 8 oz a day (unless supervised), always drink before meals,

and that it is not kept sealed in the fridge for more than 3 to 4 days because

of acetone (ketone bodies) damaging the kidneys!

>

>

>

> They also recommend that people with candida infections DO NOT USE KOMBUCHA.

I thought that it was the opposite and that KT helps yeast infections?

>

>

>

> And for the final scare: " If raising of alkaline phosphatase levels is the

mechanism Kombucha utilizes, it would follow that the EXCESSIVE USE OF KOMBUCHA

COULD LEAD TO FATAL OBSTRUCTIVE LIVER DISEASES, as well as diseases of the

pancreas, lung and bone. "

>

>

>

> So, are these authors off their rockers? Should I ignore these warnings? I'm

wondering if any novice like me should even be meddling with this dangerous

concoction now? Please help, because sometimes I drink it like soda and my kids

like it too. Also, I don't want to aggravate any yeast infections that we are

getting! and I have not been keeping track of the days it's in the fridge!

>

>

>

> Mahalo,

>

> Nita

>

>

>

> I am now an affiliate of ErgoBaby. Click on the link below to purchase the

Best Baby r Ever!

>

> http://www.ergobaby carrier.com/ 758.html

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Now see, I totally disagree with . I seal mine all the time,

and don't have any issues. Those " gasses " --> AKA carbon dioxide.

(Which also exists often in non-sealed kombucha.)

Just IMHO.

And , please do post the link re. the Russian ladies! :-)

Vicki in Orlando

>

> From: Nita Bowman <aware8@...>

> Subject: Scared to drink Kombucha now

> kombucha tea

> Date: Thursday, January 14, 2010, 9:38 PM

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>  

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> Hi everyone,

>

> I apologize if these questions have been answered. I have not been able to

use the family computer to read my kombucha messages lately. I have just

finished reading a book called Kombucha How-To and What It's All About by Alana

Pascal and Lynne Van Der Kar. The authors are very strict on it's use and

emphasize more than once that they don't want people to misuse KT and cause it

to become illegal. They recommend that children do not drink it, that adults

not have more than 8 oz a day (unless supervised), always drink before meals,

and that it is not kept sealed in the fridge for more than 3 to 4 days because

of acetone (ketone bodies) damaging the kidneys!

>

>

>

> They also recommend that people with candida infections DO NOT USE KOMBUCHA.

I thought that it was the opposite and that KT helps yeast infections?

>

>

>

> And for the final scare: " If raising of alkaline phosphatase levels is the

mechanism Kombucha utilizes, it would follow that the EXCESSIVE USE OF KOMBUCHA

COULD LEAD TO FATAL OBSTRUCTIVE LIVER DISEASES, as well as diseases of the

pancreas, lung and bone. "

>

>

>

> So, are these authors off their rockers? Should I ignore these warnings? I'm

wondering if any novice like me should even be meddling with this dangerous

concoction now? Please help, because sometimes I drink it like soda and my kids

like it too. Also, I don't want to aggravate any yeast infections that we are

getting! and I have not been keeping track of the days it's in the fridge!

>

>

>

> Mahalo,

>

> Nita

>

>

>

> I am now an affiliate of ErgoBaby. Click on the link below to purchase the

Best Baby r Ever!

>

> http://www.ergobaby carrier.com/ 758.html

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Now see, I totally disagree with . I seal mine all the time,

and don't have any issues. Those " gasses " --> AKA carbon dioxide.

(Which also exists often in non-sealed kombucha.)

Just IMHO.

And , please do post the link re. the Russian ladies! :-)

Vicki in Orlando

>

> From: Nita Bowman <aware8@...>

> Subject: Scared to drink Kombucha now

> kombucha tea

> Date: Thursday, January 14, 2010, 9:38 PM

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>  

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> Hi everyone,

>

> I apologize if these questions have been answered. I have not been able to

use the family computer to read my kombucha messages lately. I have just

finished reading a book called Kombucha How-To and What It's All About by Alana

Pascal and Lynne Van Der Kar. The authors are very strict on it's use and

emphasize more than once that they don't want people to misuse KT and cause it

to become illegal. They recommend that children do not drink it, that adults

not have more than 8 oz a day (unless supervised), always drink before meals,

and that it is not kept sealed in the fridge for more than 3 to 4 days because

of acetone (ketone bodies) damaging the kidneys!

>

>

>

> They also recommend that people with candida infections DO NOT USE KOMBUCHA.

I thought that it was the opposite and that KT helps yeast infections?

>

>

>

> And for the final scare: " If raising of alkaline phosphatase levels is the

mechanism Kombucha utilizes, it would follow that the EXCESSIVE USE OF KOMBUCHA

COULD LEAD TO FATAL OBSTRUCTIVE LIVER DISEASES, as well as diseases of the

pancreas, lung and bone. "

>

>

>

> So, are these authors off their rockers? Should I ignore these warnings? I'm

wondering if any novice like me should even be meddling with this dangerous

concoction now? Please help, because sometimes I drink it like soda and my kids

like it too. Also, I don't want to aggravate any yeast infections that we are

getting! and I have not been keeping track of the days it's in the fridge!

>

>

>

> Mahalo,

>

> Nita

>

>

>

> I am now an affiliate of ErgoBaby. Click on the link below to purchase the

Best Baby r Ever!

>

> http://www.ergobaby carrier.com/ 758.html

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

" Just because somebody publishes things

in a book, does not make those things true. "

Had to smile there Margret, one does tend, from time to time to meet the

" It must be true I saw it on Telly. " mentallity.

:¬))

.

(UK)

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From: Margret Pegg <Minstrel@...>

kombucha tea

Sent: Fri, 15 January, 2010 18:18:28

Subject: Re: Scared to drink Kombucha now

In message <3C452D190D8F48C1B805BCD31B0036F6@YOUR516F049C6C> you wrote:

> I have just finished reading a book called Kombucha How-To and What It's

> All About by Alana Pascal and Lynne Van Der Kar. The authors are very

> strict on it's use and emphasize more than once that they don't want

> people to misuse KT and cause it to become illegal.

Hi, Nita, you most likely have dome yourself a disservice reading that

book. I am very glad that I have not wasted my time reading it!

Kombucha is not some weird kind of drug or hallucinogenic 'mushroom',

but a wonderful symbiotic culture of bacteria and yeasts specific to

Kombucha. There are many other similar cultures in very large fermentation

land - all of them healthy and good nourishment consumed with a bit of

common sense..

Kombucha has been our house drink for nigh unto 30 years and has only

been good for us and the people we've share it with

> They recommend that children do not drink it,

That is their weird opinion. My 6 children and I when pregnant have

always enjoyed the wonderous Tea Elixir.

More recently we have also added Kefir to the probiotic diet and must

state that the two drinks are brilliant and keep (amongst other things)

our gut very well funtioning!

> .. that adults not have more than 8 oz a day (unless supervised)

Well I am old enough to supervise myself ;-) and drink well beyond 8 oz,

and so does my husband! :-)

> ..., always drink before meals,

who says? I drink any time of the day, when I fancy a cup or more of KT!

> and that it is not kept sealed in the fridge for more than 3 to 4 days

My KT never sees a fridge! It is bottled in sealed bottles and kept at room

temperature for a while and then put into a cold pantry.

I have NEVER had an abnormality with my KT!

> I thought that it was the opposite and that KT helps yeast infections?

Yes, it will, if consumed very acidic, with the sugar all consumed by

the culture during the fermentation process.

> ..... EXCESSIVE USE OF KOMBUCHA COULD LEAD TO FATAL OBSTRUCTIVE LIVER

> DISEASES, as well as diseases of the pancreas, lung and bone. "

After maybe consuming how many bathfuls of KT? ;-)

> So, are these authors off their rockers?

Yes, absolutely! They are given to paranoia squared!! They don't seem to

have any healthy common sense at all, it seems!

> Should I ignore these warnings?

Well, you are free to make up your own mind, but as to me, I certainly

will ignore their crazy notions!

> I'm wondering if any novice like me should even be meddling with this

> dangerous concoction now?

'dangerous concoctions'? Oh dear, I think you've already been infected

with the paranoia of those guys. Just because somebody publishes things

in a book, does not make those things true. In fact, there are lots more

untruths published than truths....

> Please help, because sometimes I drink it like soda and my kids like it

> too.

Ah, some sensible comment at last! ;-) If you want to know what I think

about soda (I think, we call it pop in the UK): YUK! There are few things

that are worse to drink than that rubbish! Diet soda is particularly

pernicious with all the artificial sweet chemical rubbish in it- otherwise,

with sugar, which is bad for overweight and especially yeast infection.

I so hope you will see the light, cast of unreasonable fear and just

ENJOY your Kombucha, which you and your family do anyway. Don't let

certain spoilsports dampen your enjoyment of the very healthy and

exceedingly lovely Kombucha Elixir.

Margret :-) (feeling lighter, after having written some ire off my soul!)

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http://www.newlifederby.org.uk

http://www.therpc.f9.co.uk/family/scobygrow/home.html

http://bavarianminstrel.wordpress.com

creation.com

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[Guest guest]

" Just because somebody publishes things

in a book, does not make those things true. "

Had to smile there Margret, one does tend, from time to time to meet the

" It must be true I saw it on Telly. " mentallity.

:¬))

.

(UK)

________________________________

From: Margret Pegg <Minstrel@...>

kombucha tea

Sent: Fri, 15 January, 2010 18:18:28

Subject: Re: Scared to drink Kombucha now

In message <3C452D190D8F48C1B805BCD31B0036F6@YOUR516F049C6C> you wrote:

> I have just finished reading a book called Kombucha How-To and What It's

> All About by Alana Pascal and Lynne Van Der Kar. The authors are very

> strict on it's use and emphasize more than once that they don't want

> people to misuse KT and cause it to become illegal.

Hi, Nita, you most likely have dome yourself a disservice reading that

book. I am very glad that I have not wasted my time reading it!

Kombucha is not some weird kind of drug or hallucinogenic 'mushroom',

but a wonderful symbiotic culture of bacteria and yeasts specific to

Kombucha. There are many other similar cultures in very large fermentation

land - all of them healthy and good nourishment consumed with a bit of

common sense..

Kombucha has been our house drink for nigh unto 30 years and has only

been good for us and the people we've share it with

> They recommend that children do not drink it,

That is their weird opinion. My 6 children and I when pregnant have

always enjoyed the wonderous Tea Elixir.

More recently we have also added Kefir to the probiotic diet and must

state that the two drinks are brilliant and keep (amongst other things)

our gut very well funtioning!

> .. that adults not have more than 8 oz a day (unless supervised)

Well I am old enough to supervise myself ;-) and drink well beyond 8 oz,

and so does my husband! :-)

> ..., always drink before meals,

who says? I drink any time of the day, when I fancy a cup or more of KT!

> and that it is not kept sealed in the fridge for more than 3 to 4 days

My KT never sees a fridge! It is bottled in sealed bottles and kept at room

temperature for a while and then put into a cold pantry.

I have NEVER had an abnormality with my KT!

> I thought that it was the opposite and that KT helps yeast infections?

Yes, it will, if consumed very acidic, with the sugar all consumed by

the culture during the fermentation process.

> ..... EXCESSIVE USE OF KOMBUCHA COULD LEAD TO FATAL OBSTRUCTIVE LIVER

> DISEASES, as well as diseases of the pancreas, lung and bone. "

After maybe consuming how many bathfuls of KT? ;-)

> So, are these authors off their rockers?

Yes, absolutely! They are given to paranoia squared!! They don't seem to

have any healthy common sense at all, it seems!

> Should I ignore these warnings?

Well, you are free to make up your own mind, but as to me, I certainly

will ignore their crazy notions!

> I'm wondering if any novice like me should even be meddling with this

> dangerous concoction now?

'dangerous concoctions'? Oh dear, I think you've already been infected

with the paranoia of those guys. Just because somebody publishes things

in a book, does not make those things true. In fact, there are lots more

untruths published than truths....

> Please help, because sometimes I drink it like soda and my kids like it

> too.

Ah, some sensible comment at last! ;-) If you want to know what I think

about soda (I think, we call it pop in the UK): YUK! There are few things

that are worse to drink than that rubbish! Diet soda is particularly

pernicious with all the artificial sweet chemical rubbish in it- otherwise,

with sugar, which is bad for overweight and especially yeast infection.

I so hope you will see the light, cast of unreasonable fear and just

ENJOY your Kombucha, which you and your family do anyway. Don't let

certain spoilsports dampen your enjoyment of the very healthy and

exceedingly lovely Kombucha Elixir.

Margret :-) (feeling lighter, after having written some ire off my soul!)

--

+------------------ Minstrel@... --------------------+

http://www.newlifederby.org.uk

http://www.therpc.f9.co.uk/family/scobygrow/home.html

http://bavarianminstrel.wordpress.com

creation.com

.. as in Adam all die, in Christ shall all be made alive ..

------------------------------------

[Guest guest]

Hello, Nita! I am out o the healthfoodstore to buy a case of KT !!Just flat out

of mine, you inspired the rebel in me ! i have been experimenting with this

stuff for nearing three decades,/ so has your mom,those guys are probably

" lawyers " waiting for action../ the writers of that book./ Peace..Jahjet

>

> Hi everyone,

> I apologize if these questions have been answered. I have not been able to

use the family computer to read my kombucha messages lately. I have just

finished reading a book called Kombucha How-To and What It's All About by Alana

Pascal and Lynne Van Der Kar. The authors are very strict on it's use and

emphasize more than once that they don't want people to misuse KT and cause it

to become illegal. They recommend that children do not drink it, that adults

not have more than 8 oz a day (unless supervised), always drink before meals,

and that it is not kept sealed in the fridge for more than 3 to 4 days because

of acetone (ketone bodies) damaging the kidneys!

>

> They also recommend that people with candida infections DO NOT USE KOMBUCHA.

I thought that it was the opposite and that KT helps yeast infections?

>

> And for the final scare: " If raising of alkaline phosphatase levels is the

mechanism Kombucha utilizes, it would follow that the EXCESSIVE USE OF KOMBUCHA

COULD LEAD TO FATAL OBSTRUCTIVE LIVER DISEASES, as well as diseases of the

pancreas, lung and bone. "

>

> So, are these authors off their rockers? Should I ignore these warnings? I'm

wondering if any novice like me should even be meddling with this dangerous

concoction now? Please help, because sometimes I drink it like soda and my kids

like it too. Also, I don't want to aggravate any yeast infections that we are

getting! and I have not been keeping track of the days it's in the fridge!

>

> Mahalo,

> Nita

>

> I am now an affiliate of ErgoBaby. Click on the link below to purchase the

Best Baby r Ever!

> http://www.ergobabycarrier.com/758.html

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hello, Nita! I am out o the healthfoodstore to buy a case of KT !!Just flat out

of mine, you inspired the rebel in me ! i have been experimenting with this

stuff for nearing three decades,/ so has your mom,those guys are probably

" lawyers " waiting for action../ the writers of that book./ Peace..Jahjet

>

> Hi everyone,

> I apologize if these questions have been answered. I have not been able to

use the family computer to read my kombucha messages lately. I have just

finished reading a book called Kombucha How-To and What It's All About by Alana

Pascal and Lynne Van Der Kar. The authors are very strict on it's use and

emphasize more than once that they don't want people to misuse KT and cause it

to become illegal. They recommend that children do not drink it, that adults

not have more than 8 oz a day (unless supervised), always drink before meals,

and that it is not kept sealed in the fridge for more than 3 to 4 days because

of acetone (ketone bodies) damaging the kidneys!

>

> They also recommend that people with candida infections DO NOT USE KOMBUCHA.

I thought that it was the opposite and that KT helps yeast infections?

>

> And for the final scare: " If raising of alkaline phosphatase levels is the

mechanism Kombucha utilizes, it would follow that the EXCESSIVE USE OF KOMBUCHA

COULD LEAD TO FATAL OBSTRUCTIVE LIVER DISEASES, as well as diseases of the

pancreas, lung and bone. "

>

> So, are these authors off their rockers? Should I ignore these warnings? I'm

wondering if any novice like me should even be meddling with this dangerous

concoction now? Please help, because sometimes I drink it like soda and my kids

like it too. Also, I don't want to aggravate any yeast infections that we are

getting! and I have not been keeping track of the days it's in the fridge!

>

> Mahalo,

> Nita

>

> I am now an affiliate of ErgoBaby. Click on the link below to purchase the

Best Baby r Ever!

> http://www.ergobabycarrier.com/758.html

>

>

[Guest guest]

hello, Diane!cork it,the worst can happen is that it will push the cork out, and

you loose some precious KT. Sometimes, after i cork it I seal with ceram

wrap,and rubberband, if there are bubbles escaping, it will blow up a little

ballon / from ceram wrap/. This i popp, and drink my KT !! Blessings. jahjet/

usually i use Gt bottles caps are built in for a slight releise of pressures/

Peace.. Jahjet

>

> From: Nita Bowman <aware8@...>

> Subject: Scared to drink Kombucha now

> kombucha tea

> Date: Thursday, January 14, 2010, 9:38 PM

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>  

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> Hi everyone,

>

> I apologize if these questions have been answered. I have not been able to

use the family computer to read my kombucha messages lately. I have just

finished reading a book called Kombucha How-To and What It's All About by Alana

Pascal and Lynne Van Der Kar. The authors are very strict on it's use and

emphasize more than once that they don't want people to misuse KT and cause it

to become illegal. They recommend that children do not drink it, that adults

not have more than 8 oz a day (unless supervised), always drink before meals,

and that it is not kept sealed in the fridge for more than 3 to 4 days because

of acetone (ketone bodies) damaging the kidneys!

>

>

>

> They also recommend that people with candida infections DO NOT USE KOMBUCHA.

I thought that it was the opposite and that KT helps yeast infections?

>

>

>

> And for the final scare: " If raising of alkaline phosphatase levels is the

mechanism Kombucha utilizes, it would follow that the EXCESSIVE USE OF KOMBUCHA

COULD LEAD TO FATAL OBSTRUCTIVE LIVER DISEASES, as well as diseases of the

pancreas, lung and bone. "

>

>

>

> So, are these authors off their rockers? Should I ignore these warnings? I'm

wondering if any novice like me should even be meddling with this dangerous

concoction now? Please help, because sometimes I drink it like soda and my kids

like it too. Also, I don't want to aggravate any yeast infections that we are

getting! and I have not been keeping track of the days it's in the fridge!

>

>

>

> Mahalo,

>

> Nita

>

>

>

> I am now an affiliate of ErgoBaby. Click on the link below to purchase the

Best Baby r Ever!

>

> http://www.ergobaby carrier.com/ 758.html

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

hello, Diane!cork it,the worst can happen is that it will push the cork out, and

you loose some precious KT. Sometimes, after i cork it I seal with ceram

wrap,and rubberband, if there are bubbles escaping, it will blow up a little

ballon / from ceram wrap/. This i popp, and drink my KT !! Blessings. jahjet/

usually i use Gt bottles caps are built in for a slight releise of pressures/

Peace.. Jahjet

>

> From: Nita Bowman <aware8@...>

> Subject: Scared to drink Kombucha now

> kombucha tea

> Date: Thursday, January 14, 2010, 9:38 PM

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>  

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> Hi everyone,

>

> I apologize if these questions have been answered. I have not been able to

use the family computer to read my kombucha messages lately. I have just

finished reading a book called Kombucha How-To and What It's All About by Alana

Pascal and Lynne Van Der Kar. The authors are very strict on it's use and

emphasize more than once that they don't want people to misuse KT and cause it

to become illegal. They recommend that children do not drink it, that adults

not have more than 8 oz a day (unless supervised), always drink before meals,

and that it is not kept sealed in the fridge for more than 3 to 4 days because

of acetone (ketone bodies) damaging the kidneys!

>

>

>

> They also recommend that people with candida infections DO NOT USE KOMBUCHA.

I thought that it was the opposite and that KT helps yeast infections?

>

>

>

> And for the final scare: " If raising of alkaline phosphatase levels is the

mechanism Kombucha utilizes, it would follow that the EXCESSIVE USE OF KOMBUCHA

COULD LEAD TO FATAL OBSTRUCTIVE LIVER DISEASES, as well as diseases of the

pancreas, lung and bone. "

>

>

>

> So, are these authors off their rockers? Should I ignore these warnings? I'm

wondering if any novice like me should even be meddling with this dangerous

concoction now? Please help, because sometimes I drink it like soda and my kids

like it too. Also, I don't want to aggravate any yeast infections that we are

getting! and I have not been keeping track of the days it's in the fridge!

>

>

>

> Mahalo,

>

> Nita

>

>

>

> I am now an affiliate of ErgoBaby. Click on the link below to purchase the

Best Baby r Ever!

>

> http://www.ergobaby carrier.com/ 758.html

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hello, .changing the subject. tonite i made a raw blender soup, with KT

verysour KT,red cabbage, red beets,garlic and celery root juice, i made

earler..with fresly made Essene bread, it was just behumblingly good..FAITHFULLY

,HOPEFULLY..PRAYING.. JAHJET THANK YOU LESLIE!!

>

> I also find it interesting that most (primarily in the States) question

> kombucha or fermented, living foods/ drinks...but don't question what's in

> their lotions and creams (skin= largest body organ), in their sodas (dyes,

> kidney-- damaging toxins, artificial sweetners), and what's in their

> condiments and sauces that they use so liberally...they don't question

> what's in their tap water because their government tells them to drink and

> be healthy!

> yet they question kombucha, which has been around for Decades upon decades.

>

> how long has Pepsi been around?

> Splenda?

>

> Burger king?

>

> hmm...

>

> just throwing that out there.

>

> [snipped the overgrown tapeworm!]

>

[Guest guest]

I am SCARED too...SCARED to NOT drink kombucha. CHEERS

On Fri, Jan 15, 2010 at 11:51 PM, Jahjet <jahjet@...> wrote:

>

>

> Hello, .changing the subject. tonite i made a raw blender soup, with

> KT verysour KT,red cabbage, red beets,garlic and celery root juice, i made

> earler..with fresly made Essene bread, it was just behumblingly

> good..FAITHFULLY ,HOPEFULLY..PRAYING.. JAHJET THANK YOU LESLIE!!

>

>

> >

> > I also find it interesting that most (primarily in the States) question

> > kombucha or fermented, living foods/ drinks...but don't question what's

> in

> > their lotions and creams (skin= largest body organ), in their sodas

> (dyes,

> > kidney-- damaging toxins, artificial sweetners), and what's in their

> > condiments and sauces that they use so liberally...they don't question

> > what's in their tap water because their government tells them to drink

> and

> > be healthy!

> > yet they question kombucha, which has been around for Decades upon

> decades.

> >

> > how long has Pepsi been around?

> > Splenda?

> >

> > Burger king?

> >

> > hmm...

> >

> > just throwing that out there.

> >

> > [snipped the overgrown tapeworm!]

> >

>

>

>

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[Guest guest]

People are quick to dismiss, or even deride, anything which is unusual. This

sounds like more of the same.

One thing I wanted to respond to was the bit about ketones damaging the kidneys.

This is ridiculous, it's one of the same (wrong) arguments used against low-carb

diets. Ketones are a *normal* part of our biochemistry, and are simply *not* a

concern. People who claim ketones are dangerous are confusing a *normal* body

function with ketoacidosis, an *abnormal* condition in diabetics and alcoholics.

Fructose is a ketone. Do these authors claim fruits and vegetables damage the

kidneys?

I wonder what these authors would say about exercise? After all, it damages the

muscles!

- .

>

>...and that it is not kept sealed in the fridge for more than 3 to 4 days

because of acetone (ketone bodies) damaging the kidneys!

[Guest guest]

When did sugars (Carbohydrates) become Alkanones (Ketones)?

Part rusty memory and part " digging around " yielded ...

" The general formula for sugars is (CH2O) n — that is, carbon combined with

water multiplied n times — indicating the derivation of the word

‘carbohydrate’. "

Fructose is sometimes referred to as fruit sugar.

The scientific formula for Fructose is C6H12O6

For Sucrose C12H22O11

General formula for Ketones...

Acetone (2-propanone, propanone, or other names) has CH3COCH3 as its chemical

formula.

.

(UK)

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From: <hoffman.aj@...>

Subject: Re: Scared to drink Kombucha now

People are quick to dismiss, or even deride, anything which is unusual. This

sounds like more of the same.

One thing I wanted to respond to was the bit about ketones damaging the kidneys.

This is ridiculous, it's one of the same (wrong) arguments used against low-carb

diets. Ketones are a *normal* part of our biochemistry, and are simply *not* a

concern. People who claim ketones are dangerous are confusing a *normal* body

function with ketoacidosis, an *abnormal* condition in diabetics and alcoholics.

Fructose is a ketone. Do these authors claim fruits and vegetables damage the

kidneys?

I wonder what these authors would say about exercise? After all, it damages the

muscles!

- .

>

>...and that it is not kept sealed in the fridge for more than 3 to 4 days

because of acetone (ketone bodies) damaging the kidneys!

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[Guest guest]

Monosaccharides are aldehydes or ketones with multiple hydroxyl groups. Fructose

and glucose share the same chemical formula, but differ in structure - isomers.

Glucose is classified as an aldehyde while fructose is classified as a ketone,

since its carbonyl group has two hydrocarbon groups attached.

- .

> >

> >...and that it is not kept sealed in the fridge for more than 3 to 4 days

because of acetone (ketone bodies) damaging the kidneys!

>

>

>

> ------------------------------------

>

>

[Guest guest]

In message <hituec+bmuteGroups> you wrote:

> Monosaccharides are aldehydes or ketones with multiple hydroxyl groups.

> Fructose and glucose share the same chemical formula, but differ in

> structure - isomers. Glucose is classified as an aldehyde while fructose

> is classified as a ketone, since its carbonyl group has two hydrocarbon

> groups attached.

, I marvel at yours and 's knowledge of chemical dooh-dahs.

My brain is shaped in such a way that chemical formulae almost immediately

slip out again ... kind of chemical form of dyslexia?

.... except for nice and short H2O ... of which we use plenty for brewing! ;-)

Best wishes,

Margret from UK

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[Guest guest]

In message <hituec+bmuteGroups> you wrote:

> Monosaccharides are aldehydes or ketones with multiple hydroxyl groups.

> Fructose and glucose share the same chemical formula, but differ in

> structure - isomers. Glucose is classified as an aldehyde while fructose

> is classified as a ketone, since its carbonyl group has two hydrocarbon

> groups attached.

, I marvel at yours and 's knowledge of chemical dooh-dahs.

My brain is shaped in such a way that chemical formulae almost immediately

slip out again ... kind of chemical form of dyslexia?

.... except for nice and short H2O ... of which we use plenty for brewing! ;-)

Best wishes,

Margret from UK

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http://bavarianminstrel.wordpress.com

creation.com

If anyone acknowledges that Jesus is the Son of God,

God lives in him and he in God. (1 4:15)

[Guest guest]

In message <hituec+bmuteGroups> you wrote:

> Monosaccharides are aldehydes or ketones with multiple hydroxyl groups.

> Fructose and glucose share the same chemical formula, but differ in

> structure - isomers. Glucose is classified as an aldehyde while fructose

> is classified as a ketone, since its carbonyl group has two hydrocarbon

> groups attached.

, I marvel at yours and 's knowledge of chemical dooh-dahs.

My brain is shaped in such a way that chemical formulae almost immediately

slip out again ... kind of chemical form of dyslexia?

.... except for nice and short H2O ... of which we use plenty for brewing! ;-)

Best wishes,

Margret from UK

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God lives in him and he in God. (1 4:15)

[Guest guest]

Hello and thank you everyone for your many helpful replies.

I'm glad to be a part of this group. Otherwise I may have been deterred by that

book. The book says that Alana Pascal is a Certified Clinical Nutiritionist

with a strong background in biochemistry and 23 years of experience in the

alternative health field. Lynne Van der Kar is a certified massage therapist.

I admit that while reading it, I was guilty of leaning toward the false

assumption that because it was in a book, it was true. However, this book was

published in 1995. I think a lot more research and documentation has been done

since then. While reading your replies and catching up on all the other

wonderful posts, I read some of the FAQ's that Bev linked to. I found the

following to be of particular interest and relevance:

(note the time relevence to this book's publishing, on the question about

children drinking it. My 2 yo (youngest of our six) was not interested in KT

until just recently. I hear some of you give it to your children. Do you think

they drink roughly 2 oz per year of age? what do you think about the answer

below?)

Aloha,

Nita

6.5 How long will bottled Kombucha Tea keep?

There have been some reports stating that bottled Kombucha has remained viable

for up to one year, as long as it is kept in the refrigerator, or another type

of cold storage. If not kept in cool, the microörganisms will not survive,

although many of the other components found in the ferment will remain stable.

6.15 How much Kombucha Tea can I drink daily?

Some people only drink 4 ounces once or twice daily others are drinking 30

ounces or more per day without any ill effects

6.22 Can children drink Kombucha Tea?

Roussin, Director of the Kombucha Consumer Research Group & trade; says:

" Until today (4 Jan 1996), I would have recommended that Kombucha not be given

to pre-puberty children. The reasons are iffy, and propounded in several books

and papers, but the basis for those iffy suggestions are not valid, therefore,

the suggestions are not valid either. In short, there is no reason (except

concerns about caffeine) not to give Kombucha to children. I would suggest small

amounts (less than 2 ounces per day per year of age), since we have not fully

researched the effects of some of the compounds we've identified on human

physiology. While our initial impressions are that they are very favorable to

the human body, that is also an observation on probable interaction with a

healthy adult. "

6.23 Should lactating women drink Kombucha Tea?

Since lactating mothers pass on substances through the breast milk to their

infants, most people feel that it would be a good idea to wait until the child

is finished breast-feeding before starting to drink Kombucha Tea. However,

whether or not to drink Kombucha while breast-feeding, has to remain a personal

decision for the mother to make. Remember, that the caffeine is not used by the

colony while fermenting, and remains in the finished Kombucha Tea.

6.49 Can Kombucha Tea cause poisoning and allergic reactions?

Nothing has been substantiated on any poisoning by Kombucha Tea. Allergic

reactions are rare, however, not impossible, since Kombucha is a food.

6.82 Should I drink Kombucha Tea on an empty stomach?

Concerning when to take the first drink of Kombucha. It is recommended that the

first Kombucha be taken first thing in the morning on an empty stomach. The

purpose is for the Kombucha Tea to move into the body quickly with out the

hindrance of food and digestive juices. However, not everybody's stomach is the

same. Some people insist that the acidic Kombucha Tea upsets their stomach when

consumed on an empty tummy. It is suggested that they eat something first or

take their Kombucha Tea with food. That is better than not taking it at all. If

one takes the tea during the day under a variety of situations then they may get

different effects and benefits when the tea hits the stomach with varying kinds

and amounts of food in the stomach. I have always drunk my k-tea first thing in

the morning so that it moves into the blood stream quickly and unhindered. It

also passes quickly in the liver and kidneys and probably is more efficient then

when competing with a lot of other waste products. Also, if one wants to use

k-tea as an appetite suppressant then it should be taken around 30 minutes

before a meal. This allows it to pass through the stomach and exert it effects

on the appetite.

I try not to take the Kombucha Tea and vitamins or supplements at the same time

because I want to get maximum benefit of both. I don't want the Kombucha Tea

possibly tying up beneficial parts of the supplements or vitamins and minerals.

Jack Barclay

[Guest guest]

Good point Margaret,

Now that you mention it, I have noticed that sometimes I feel like drinking KT

less than other times. Then there are other times when I feel like chugging it

down. I suppose that could be my body reacting to it's need for KT. Moderation

is key, right?

~nita

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