Re: Horrible moods after school+during homework meltdowns

[Guest guest]

Kathy,

Yes, it does stink! I have two with mood disorders and ocd also. You just have

to hang in there!!!!!!!!!!!! The best advice I can give you is to ignore all the

negativity. They thrive on it! Walk away from her and ignore her when she acts

that way, so she doesn't have an audience.

You are doing the best you can!

Hugs

Judy

stinkydogkid <stinkydogkid@...> wrote: My

anxious 8 year old is a nightmare after school.

It really is a burden to be her mom. Today she came home

and as usual complains about the lunch I packed her and almost

treats me in an abuse way " I am HUNGRY, because YOU didnt

pack me enough lunch. " " Noone likes me, everyone is mean to me "

" I got a bad grade on a test, YOU didn't remind me . " Today,k

I had really had it. Yes, she has a mood disorder but all i do is try

to please this little B(*******. I am really sick of it. Dont know how

much is a mood disorder, but dealing with her angry, bad moods and abuse

really stinks. Then she cries all the time, I am SSSSSSSSSSSSSOOOOOOOOO

sick of it. I am so sick of her being miserable, all i do

is try to please her, she is never gonna be happy. Doing homework with

her is a chore. She cries because she cant do her homework... Comes

home angry with bad grades. Its all a mess.

This really stinks.

Kathy

[Guest guest]

Judy~

I keep reading about this " mood disorder " component of

ocd...or is it? Is it a separate disorder? My 10

year old dd melts down after playdates end and usually

with math homework. the negativity is enough to

depress any cheerleader mom!

Michele

--- jchabot <jchabot@...> wrote:

> Kathy,

> Yes, it does stink! I have two with mood disorders

> and ocd also. You just have to hang in

> there!!!!!!!!!!!! The best advice I can give you is

> to ignore all the negativity. They thrive on it!

> Walk away from her and ignore her when she acts that

> way, so she doesn't have an audience.

> You are doing the best you can!

> Hugs

> Judy

>

> stinkydogkid <stinkydogkid@...> wrote:

> My anxious 8 year old is a

> nightmare after school.

> It really is a burden to be her mom. Today she came

> home

> and as usual complains about the lunch I packed her

> and almost

> treats me in an abuse way " I am HUNGRY, because YOU

> didnt

> pack me enough lunch. " " Noone likes me, everyone is

> mean to me "

> " I got a bad grade on a test, YOU didn't remind me

> . " Today,k

> I had really had it. Yes, she has a mood disorder

> but all i do is try

> to please this little B(*******. I am really sick

> of it. Dont know how

> much is a mood disorder, but dealing with her

> angry, bad moods and abuse

> really stinks. Then she cries all the time, I am

> SSSSSSSSSSSSSOOOOOOOOO

> sick of it. I am so sick of her being miserable,

> all i do

> is try to please her, she is never gonna be happy.

> Doing homework with

> her is a chore. She cries because she cant do her

> homework... Comes

> home angry with bad grades. Its all a mess.

> This really stinks.

>

> Kathy

>

>

>

>

>

>

> [Non-text portions of this message have been

> removed]

>

>

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[Guest guest]

Judy~

I keep reading about this " mood disorder " component of

ocd...or is it? Is it a separate disorder? My 10

year old dd melts down after playdates end and usually

with math homework. the negativity is enough to

depress any cheerleader mom!

Michele

--- jchabot <jchabot@...> wrote:

> Kathy,

> Yes, it does stink! I have two with mood disorders

> and ocd also. You just have to hang in

> there!!!!!!!!!!!! The best advice I can give you is

> to ignore all the negativity. They thrive on it!

> Walk away from her and ignore her when she acts that

> way, so she doesn't have an audience.

> You are doing the best you can!

> Hugs

> Judy

>

> stinkydogkid <stinkydogkid@...> wrote:

> My anxious 8 year old is a

> nightmare after school.

> It really is a burden to be her mom. Today she came

> home

> and as usual complains about the lunch I packed her

> and almost

> treats me in an abuse way " I am HUNGRY, because YOU

> didnt

> pack me enough lunch. " " Noone likes me, everyone is

> mean to me "

> " I got a bad grade on a test, YOU didn't remind me

> . " Today,k

> I had really had it. Yes, she has a mood disorder

> but all i do is try

> to please this little B(*******. I am really sick

> of it. Dont know how

> much is a mood disorder, but dealing with her

> angry, bad moods and abuse

> really stinks. Then she cries all the time, I am

> SSSSSSSSSSSSSOOOOOOOOO

> sick of it. I am so sick of her being miserable,

> all i do

> is try to please her, she is never gonna be happy.

> Doing homework with

> her is a chore. She cries because she cant do her

> homework... Comes

> home angry with bad grades. Its all a mess.

> This really stinks.

>

> Kathy

>

>

>

>

>

>

> [Non-text portions of this message have been

> removed]

>

>

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[Guest guest]

Hi Michele,

Some kids without any diagnosis are moody(as we all know! lol!) I'm speaking

about my 12 yr old dd ( She does not have any problems and is sooo moody!)

Anyway, my other two kids, ages 10 and 6 have ocd and mood disorders. One has

bipolar and the other has mood disorder-nos.(which normally gets diagnosed as

bipolar later) They are separate disorders.

New research is stating that children diagnosed with bipolar disorder often have

obsessive and compulsive behaviors, but do not actually have ocd.

Hope this helps some!

Hugs

Judy

Michele <merinflag@...> wrote: Judy~

I keep reading about this " mood disorder " component of

ocd...or is it? Is it a separate disorder? My 10

year old dd melts down after playdates end and usually

with math homework. the negativity is enough to

depress any cheerleader mom!

Michele

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[Guest guest]

Hi Michele,

Some kids without any diagnosis are moody(as we all know! lol!) I'm speaking

about my 12 yr old dd ( She does not have any problems and is sooo moody!)

Anyway, my other two kids, ages 10 and 6 have ocd and mood disorders. One has

bipolar and the other has mood disorder-nos.(which normally gets diagnosed as

bipolar later) They are separate disorders.

New research is stating that children diagnosed with bipolar disorder often have

obsessive and compulsive behaviors, but do not actually have ocd.

Hope this helps some!

Hugs

Judy

Michele <merinflag@...> wrote: Judy~

I keep reading about this " mood disorder " component of

ocd...or is it? Is it a separate disorder? My 10

year old dd melts down after playdates end and usually

with math homework. the negativity is enough to

depress any cheerleader mom!

Michele

-

[Guest guest]

--

Judy--

How can you tell the difference between normal " Bad moods, moodiness "

and mood disorder?? My moody daughter also has trich, which can be

(according to who is asked) a form of OCD. Do either of yours

have trich???

Kathy

- In , jchabot <jchabot@...> wrote:

>

> Hi Michele,

> Some kids without any diagnosis are moody(as we all know! lol!) I'm

speaking about my 12 yr old dd ( She does not have any problems and

is sooo moody!)

> Anyway, my other two kids, ages 10 and 6 have ocd and mood

disorders. One has bipolar and the other has mood disorder-nos.(which

normally gets diagnosed as bipolar later) They are separate

disorders.

> New research is stating that children diagnosed with bipolar

disorder often have obsessive and compulsive behaviors, but do not

actually have ocd.

> Hope this helps some!

> Hugs

> Judy

> Michele <merinflag@...>

wrote: Judy~

> I keep reading about this " mood disorder " component of

> ocd...or is it? Is it a separate disorder? My 10

> year old dd melts down after playdates end and usually

> with math homework. the negativity is enough to

> depress any cheerleader mom!

> Michele

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[Guest guest]

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Judy--

How can you tell the difference between normal " Bad moods, moodiness "

and mood disorder?? My moody daughter also has trich, which can be

(according to who is asked) a form of OCD. Do either of yours

have trich???

Kathy

- In , jchabot <jchabot@...> wrote:

>

> Hi Michele,

> Some kids without any diagnosis are moody(as we all know! lol!) I'm

speaking about my 12 yr old dd ( She does not have any problems and

is sooo moody!)

> Anyway, my other two kids, ages 10 and 6 have ocd and mood

disorders. One has bipolar and the other has mood disorder-nos.(which

normally gets diagnosed as bipolar later) They are separate

disorders.

> New research is stating that children diagnosed with bipolar

disorder often have obsessive and compulsive behaviors, but do not

actually have ocd.

> Hope this helps some!

> Hugs

> Judy

> Michele <merinflag@...>

wrote: Judy~

> I keep reading about this " mood disorder " component of

> ocd...or is it? Is it a separate disorder? My 10

> year old dd melts down after playdates end and usually

> with math homework. the negativity is enough to

> depress any cheerleader mom!

> Michele

> -

>

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[Guest guest]

Hi Kathy,

Neither of my kids have trich, but my dd has severe skin picking. It is

awful!!!!

You can easily tell the difference between normal moodiness and a mood disorder.

For example, my 12 yr old(who is just moody) will get mouthy and may slam a

door, etc .If my 10 yr old or 6 yr old are having mood swings, it's a nightmare.

They can rage for hours at a time, where they have to be physically held down.

they will threaten to kill me.( My dd used to say she would cut me up with an

axe) Nothing you do will stop them. They don't care. They have an almost " feral

look to them when this happens. They will hit and scream and throw things,roll

on the floor, listen to nothing, punch, )I could literally go on and on for

hours with examples. My dd will laugh hysterically over nothing for 20 minutes,

than it will turn into a massive rage. There is no explanation for the rage. It

usually will happen from a simple " NO " , but can come out of nowhere.

Many kids with mood disorders also have psychosis. My dd has never had this but

my son does. It is horrible.

Hope this helps some.

Hugs

Judy

stinkydogkid <stinkydogkid@...> wrote: --

Judy--

How can you tell the difference between normal " Bad moods, moodiness "

and mood disorder?? My moody daughter also has trich, which can be

(according to who is asked) a form of OCD. Do either of yours

have trich???

..

[Guest guest]

--

Hi Judy,

Well that does help. It makes me think that she just has normal

extreme moodiness, anxiety and trich. She doesnt do the things you

mentioned, but she is still extremely difficult and moody. My younger

daughter (on tryletpal) started having the look you mentioned and it

almost reminded me of a cat, and I could tell she had no control.

When she was 5 she would say " I want to go to school so I dont have

those crazys. " . We go back to the psychiatrist tomorrow, so

I am trying to figure out how to describe her and/or have something

that helps better than the risperdol,,, she is still moody, cant go

to sleep easily at night (insomnia), and very moody, complaining all

the time, but just not the rages you describe.

thanks

Kathy

- In , jchabot <jchabot@...> wrote:

>

> Hi Kathy,

> Neither of my kids have trich, but my dd has severe skin picking.

It is awful!!!!

> You can easily tell the difference between normal moodiness and a

mood disorder.

> For example, my 12 yr old(who is just moody) will get mouthy and

may slam a door, etc .If my 10 yr old or 6 yr old are having mood

swings, it's a nightmare. They can rage for hours at a time, where

they have to be physically held down. they will threaten to kill me.(

My dd used to say she would cut me up with an axe) Nothing you do

will stop them. They don't care. They have an almost " feral look to

them when this happens. They will hit and scream and throw

things,roll on the floor, listen to nothing, punch, )I could

literally go on and on for hours with examples. My dd will laugh

hysterically over nothing for 20 minutes, than it will turn into a

massive rage. There is no explanation for the rage. It usually will

happen from a simple " NO " , but can come out of nowhere.

> Many kids with mood disorders also have psychosis. My dd has never

had this but my son does. It is horrible.

> Hope this helps some.

> Hugs

> Judy

>

> stinkydogkid <stinkydogkid@...>

wrote: --

> Judy--

>

> How can you tell the difference between normal " Bad moods,

moodiness "

> and mood disorder?? My moody daughter also has trich, which can be

> (according to who is asked) a form of OCD. Do either of yours

> have trich???

>

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[Guest guest]

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Hi Judy,

Well that does help. It makes me think that she just has normal

extreme moodiness, anxiety and trich. She doesnt do the things you

mentioned, but she is still extremely difficult and moody. My younger

daughter (on tryletpal) started having the look you mentioned and it

almost reminded me of a cat, and I could tell she had no control.

When she was 5 she would say " I want to go to school so I dont have

those crazys. " . We go back to the psychiatrist tomorrow, so

I am trying to figure out how to describe her and/or have something

that helps better than the risperdol,,, she is still moody, cant go

to sleep easily at night (insomnia), and very moody, complaining all

the time, but just not the rages you describe.

thanks

Kathy

- In , jchabot <jchabot@...> wrote:

>

> Hi Kathy,

> Neither of my kids have trich, but my dd has severe skin picking.

It is awful!!!!

> You can easily tell the difference between normal moodiness and a

mood disorder.

> For example, my 12 yr old(who is just moody) will get mouthy and

may slam a door, etc .If my 10 yr old or 6 yr old are having mood

swings, it's a nightmare. They can rage for hours at a time, where

they have to be physically held down. they will threaten to kill me.(

My dd used to say she would cut me up with an axe) Nothing you do

will stop them. They don't care. They have an almost " feral look to

them when this happens. They will hit and scream and throw

things,roll on the floor, listen to nothing, punch, )I could

literally go on and on for hours with examples. My dd will laugh

hysterically over nothing for 20 minutes, than it will turn into a

massive rage. There is no explanation for the rage. It usually will

happen from a simple " NO " , but can come out of nowhere.

> Many kids with mood disorders also have psychosis. My dd has never

had this but my son does. It is horrible.

> Hope this helps some.

> Hugs

> Judy

>

> stinkydogkid <stinkydogkid@...>

wrote: --

> Judy--

>

> How can you tell the difference between normal " Bad moods,

moodiness "

> and mood disorder?? My moody daughter also has trich, which can be

> (according to who is asked) a form of OCD. Do either of yours

> have trich???

>

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[Guest guest]

Judy,

This is Lynne, mom to Sis. She has the " feral " look to her at times, will

scream, alll you mentioned for hours. I have to hold her down at times. How do

you deal with this ? Usually after one of those I cry outside feeling like the

worst mom in the world for having to hold her down, or discipline her.

Lynne

stinkydogkid <stinkydogkid@...> wrote:

--

Hi Judy,

Well that does help. It makes me think that she just has normal

extreme moodiness, anxiety and trich. She doesnt do the things you

mentioned, but she is still extremely difficult and moody. My younger

daughter (on tryletpal) started having the look you mentioned and it

almost reminded me of a cat, and I could tell she had no control.

When she was 5 she would say " I want to go to school so I dont have

those crazys. " . We go back to the psychiatrist tomorrow, so

I am trying to figure out how to describe her and/or have something

that helps better than the risperdol,,, she is still moody, cant go

to sleep easily at night (insomnia), and very moody, complaining all

the time, but just not the rages you describe.

thanks

Kathy

- In , jchabot <jchabot@...> wrote:

>

> Hi Kathy,

> Neither of my kids have trich, but my dd has severe skin picking.

It is awful!!!!

> You can easily tell the difference between normal moodiness and a

mood disorder.

> For example, my 12 yr old(who is just moody) will get mouthy and

may slam a door, etc .If my 10 yr old or 6 yr old are having mood

swings, it's a nightmare. They can rage for hours at a time, where

they have to be physically held down. they will threaten to kill me.(

My dd used to say she would cut me up with an axe) Nothing you do

will stop them. They don't care. They have an almost " feral look to

them when this happens. They will hit and scream and throw

things,roll on the floor, listen to nothing, punch, )I could

literally go on and on for hours with examples. My dd will laugh

hysterically over nothing for 20 minutes, than it will turn into a

massive rage. There is no explanation for the rage. It usually will

happen from a simple " NO " , but can come out of nowhere.

> Many kids with mood disorders also have psychosis. My dd has never

had this but my son does. It is horrible.

> Hope this helps some.

> Hugs

> Judy

>

> stinkydogkid <stinkydogkid@...>

wrote: --

> Judy--

>

> How can you tell the difference between normal " Bad moods,

moodiness "

> and mood disorder?? My moody daughter also has trich, which can be

> (according to who is asked) a form of OCD. Do either of yours

> have trich???

>

>

>

>

> .

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Judy,

This is Lynne, mom to Sis. She has the " feral " look to her at times, will

scream, alll you mentioned for hours. I have to hold her down at times. How do

you deal with this ? Usually after one of those I cry outside feeling like the

worst mom in the world for having to hold her down, or discipline her.

Lynne

stinkydogkid <stinkydogkid@...> wrote:

--

Hi Judy,

Well that does help. It makes me think that she just has normal

extreme moodiness, anxiety and trich. She doesnt do the things you

mentioned, but she is still extremely difficult and moody. My younger

daughter (on tryletpal) started having the look you mentioned and it

almost reminded me of a cat, and I could tell she had no control.

When she was 5 she would say " I want to go to school so I dont have

those crazys. " . We go back to the psychiatrist tomorrow, so

I am trying to figure out how to describe her and/or have something

that helps better than the risperdol,,, she is still moody, cant go

to sleep easily at night (insomnia), and very moody, complaining all

the time, but just not the rages you describe.

thanks

Kathy

- In , jchabot <jchabot@...> wrote:

>

> Hi Kathy,

> Neither of my kids have trich, but my dd has severe skin picking.

It is awful!!!!

> You can easily tell the difference between normal moodiness and a

mood disorder.

> For example, my 12 yr old(who is just moody) will get mouthy and

may slam a door, etc .If my 10 yr old or 6 yr old are having mood

swings, it's a nightmare. They can rage for hours at a time, where

they have to be physically held down. they will threaten to kill me.(

My dd used to say she would cut me up with an axe) Nothing you do

will stop them. They don't care. They have an almost " feral look to

them when this happens. They will hit and scream and throw

things,roll on the floor, listen to nothing, punch, )I could

literally go on and on for hours with examples. My dd will laugh

hysterically over nothing for 20 minutes, than it will turn into a

massive rage. There is no explanation for the rage. It usually will

happen from a simple " NO " , but can come out of nowhere.

> Many kids with mood disorders also have psychosis. My dd has never

had this but my son does. It is horrible.

> Hope this helps some.

> Hugs

> Judy

>

> stinkydogkid <stinkydogkid@...>

wrote: --

> Judy--

>

> How can you tell the difference between normal " Bad moods,

moodiness "

> and mood disorder?? My moody daughter also has trich, which can be

> (according to who is asked) a form of OCD. Do either of yours

> have trich???

>

>

>

>

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>

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>

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[Guest guest]

Good question Judy. My 10 year old also is very sensitive about things,

cries if the homework is more than she feels it should be, then has trouble

moving on with it and doing it, she also snaps easily in anger, and hates

being embarrassed. I would say she has OCD though and not OCDP because she

seems to really fear germs and it makes her very anxious if she cannot wash

after toilet, or shower after pooh.

Jane