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On Wed, 28 Jan 2004 07:09:34 -0800 (PST), Kim Kaufmann wrote:

>

>Honestly, I don't mean to whine here - but am I doing something wrong? I

haven't lost another pound in 5 days.... it's driving me crazy. I'm eating

mostly protein - drinking my water, exercising a little and that stupid scale

won't move. I am only weighing every 5 or 6 days as I got freaked out once when

I had gained 2 pounds and went back the next day and had lost 4 - so now I limit

myself to every 5 or 6 days... It seems way too soon for a plateau and only 32

pounds at 7 weeks.... did anyone else have these kind of results.... I know

everyone is different... but I want to know if I should be worried...

>

>Kim

>

>Who is convinced this surgery will work for everyone else but not her :o(

>

>

Kim,

One of the recurring themes on the list is someone becoming a " slave " to

the scale. Don't worry about it. Each person is different. Most lose a

lot during the first couple weeks then hit a plateau and don't lose

anything for weeks or even months, then start losing again. In some people

this first plateau hits sooner than in others. Just stay with the program.

While the weight (scale) is a fair indicator and most people post those

numbers, the important ones are the BMI and the body fat ratio. One of the

reasons the scales seems to stop moving is that, as you exercise more, you

are burning fat but are replacing it with muscle. Your weight appears to

hit a plateau but you are actually losing fat and improving the lean to fat

ratio, a very good thing.

So.. Don't be too concerned about the scale right now. As long as you

follow the program, eat the proteins first, get in your fluids, and

exercise, the weight WILL come off.

Jerry

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On Wed, 28 Jan 2004 07:09:34 -0800 (PST), Kim Kaufmann wrote:

>

>Honestly, I don't mean to whine here - but am I doing something wrong? I

haven't lost another pound in 5 days.... it's driving me crazy. I'm eating

mostly protein - drinking my water, exercising a little and that stupid scale

won't move. I am only weighing every 5 or 6 days as I got freaked out once when

I had gained 2 pounds and went back the next day and had lost 4 - so now I limit

myself to every 5 or 6 days... It seems way too soon for a plateau and only 32

pounds at 7 weeks.... did anyone else have these kind of results.... I know

everyone is different... but I want to know if I should be worried...

>

>Kim

>

>Who is convinced this surgery will work for everyone else but not her :o(

>

>

Kim,

One of the recurring themes on the list is someone becoming a " slave " to

the scale. Don't worry about it. Each person is different. Most lose a

lot during the first couple weeks then hit a plateau and don't lose

anything for weeks or even months, then start losing again. In some people

this first plateau hits sooner than in others. Just stay with the program.

While the weight (scale) is a fair indicator and most people post those

numbers, the important ones are the BMI and the body fat ratio. One of the

reasons the scales seems to stop moving is that, as you exercise more, you

are burning fat but are replacing it with muscle. Your weight appears to

hit a plateau but you are actually losing fat and improving the lean to fat

ratio, a very good thing.

So.. Don't be too concerned about the scale right now. As long as you

follow the program, eat the proteins first, get in your fluids, and

exercise, the weight WILL come off.

Jerry

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> Kim

>

> Who is convinced this surgery will work for everyone else but not

her :o(

Cha-Ching! LOL! Hey, Kim, thanks! I get a dollar everytime someone

says that!

Marta

rubbing her hands gleefully!

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> Honestly, I don't mean to whine here - but am I doing something

wrong? I haven't lost another pound in 5 days.... it's driving me

crazy. I'm eating mostly protein - drinking my water, exercising a

little and that stupid scale won't move. I am only weighing every 5

or 6 days as I got freaked out once when I had gained 2 pounds and

went back the next day and had lost 4 - so now I limit myself to

every 5 or 6 days... It seems way too soon for a plateau and only 32

pounds at 7 weeks.... did anyone else have these kind of

results.... I know everyone is different... but I want to know if I

should be worried...

> Kim

> Who is convinced this surgery will work for everyone else but not

her :o(

> Best Regards,

>

> Kim Kaufmann

>

> " Let your word be impeccable "

~~~~~~~~~~~```

LOL Kim,

You are probley on your first plateau.Don't sweat the small stuff,

some of us have had the plateaus of H-ll,but it will pass. My first

one I thought what the heck,and ate some fat off a steak and lo and

behold it kicked started my losing again.Just remember I am not

recommending that.

YOU WILL LOSE THE WEIGHT,none of us lose the same,hu Sharon??LOL

Sharon and I were the same weight at time of surgery. I have gotten

down to 178 her I think 182,but she wears smaller sizes than I do.

pout,pout..lol We are all so different..

God's blessing to you it will happen

Pat

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It seems way too soon for a plateau and only 32 pounds at 7

weeks.... did anyone else have these kind of results.... I know

everyone is different... but I want to know if I should be worried...

>

> Kim

Hi Kim

Me again....lol I know it is discouraging, BUT dont worry it will

happen for you and if for some reason it doesnt Dr K will fix it. So

relax in knowing and owning that this is going to work.

Now for the reality check. I never, ever, ever lost " like everyone

else " . Ever.

I just went from plateau to plateau. I would go days and weeks

without loosing, and then all of a sudden I would lose 4 lbs or 6lbs

or even 10 lbs in just a few days. Then back to the plateau. I even

at 5-6 mos had an 8 week plateau that scared the buggars out of me.

But it passed. (By the way, I have used that as my motto.... " this

too shall pass " ....and it does.)

I know by experience it isnt easy, and it is very hard not to compare

yourself to others. And it can get discouraging. But it does

happen. For some of us it is just a longer struggle.

I am out over 2 years now and still want to lose another 20 lbs.

Talk about struggle...it is way harder now. But it does happen as I

lost 5 more lbs just before my 2 year and I hadnt lost any since

July. So Hang in there and try- really try to enjoy the journey.

Did you measure yourself before surgery? If so measure again. When

the scales werent moving i found the inches were. It kept me from

hary-kary.

If you didnt. Do it now. It will surprize you in a couple of months.

You are doing great. Keep up the protien, water and exercise and a

little fat might get things moving too. But be sure you dont have to

be anywhere the next morning as you will spend a little extra time in

the bathroom...

Sharon in Onyx

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It seems way too soon for a plateau and only 32 pounds at 7

weeks.... did anyone else have these kind of results.... I know

everyone is different... but I want to know if I should be worried...

>

> Kim

Hi Kim

Me again....lol I know it is discouraging, BUT dont worry it will

happen for you and if for some reason it doesnt Dr K will fix it. So

relax in knowing and owning that this is going to work.

Now for the reality check. I never, ever, ever lost " like everyone

else " . Ever.

I just went from plateau to plateau. I would go days and weeks

without loosing, and then all of a sudden I would lose 4 lbs or 6lbs

or even 10 lbs in just a few days. Then back to the plateau. I even

at 5-6 mos had an 8 week plateau that scared the buggars out of me.

But it passed. (By the way, I have used that as my motto.... " this

too shall pass " ....and it does.)

I know by experience it isnt easy, and it is very hard not to compare

yourself to others. And it can get discouraging. But it does

happen. For some of us it is just a longer struggle.

I am out over 2 years now and still want to lose another 20 lbs.

Talk about struggle...it is way harder now. But it does happen as I

lost 5 more lbs just before my 2 year and I hadnt lost any since

July. So Hang in there and try- really try to enjoy the journey.

Did you measure yourself before surgery? If so measure again. When

the scales werent moving i found the inches were. It kept me from

hary-kary.

If you didnt. Do it now. It will surprize you in a couple of months.

You are doing great. Keep up the protien, water and exercise and a

little fat might get things moving too. But be sure you dont have to

be anywhere the next morning as you will spend a little extra time in

the bathroom...

Sharon in Onyx

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> YOU WILL LOSE THE WEIGHT,none of us lose the same,hu Sharon??LOL

> Sharon and I were the same weight at time of surgery. I have gotten

> down to 178 her I think 182,but she wears smaller sizes than I do.

> pout,pout..lol We are all so different..

> God's blessing to you it will happen

> Pat

Yea, we started out the same weight, and I am not a revision, and I

weighed 188 for a day...sigh....and Pat still weighs less than me and

she is a revision, but my clothes sizes are smaller...who knows the

reason.

It may be taat my bones are denser as they had to carry a smo person

longer than Pats did...just guessing. But I will get to 178...so Pt

you better watch out!

Sharon in Onyx

who is still trying to get back to 188 lol

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and Pat still weighs less than me and

> she is a revision, but my clothes sizes are smaller...who knows

the

> reason.

===================

Or duhhh...it could be that your taller and should weigh

more...lol...also you are younger and should have more muscle mass

naturally, therefore, you will weigh more and be in a smaller size

cloths! That number on the scales don't even come close to telling

the whole story...silly, cute as a button woman.

Hugs

Jo

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Now I have a different problem.Monday I went to my PCP and when he said I'd

lost 6lbs from Dec 29 to Jan 26 it scared me. I'm happy where I am. I

started working and I can work in the warehouse and not look for a chair and

take a break every few minutes. I stocked shelves for 3 hrs on Monday and

never took a break. I can shop my best friend into the ground (she's a size

6). I feel like I'll float away sometimes. I'm happy here and I have 12 more

months to loose. Scary huh.

Lillie

If we are facing in the right direction,

all we have to do is keep on walking.

-- Buddhist proverb

DS 4/30/03 341

12/9/03 265

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> Or duhhh...it could be that your taller and should weigh

> more...lol...also you are younger and should have more muscle mass

> naturally, therefore, you will weigh more and be in a smaller size

> cloths! That number on the scales don't even come close to telling

> the whole story...silly, cute as a button woman.

>

> Hugs

> Jo

Thanks Jo!

You are right I am taller than Pat! I am so used to being the short

one in the croud that my height never even entered into my thoughts.

lol How funny.

Now I will have to work on that muscle thingy...drat that Jo, she is

always coming up with something thats good for us...lol

I will see your tiny self tomorrow eve for dinner. Cant wait.

The Hungry Hunter eh? I have never eaten there before. Although

lately that is how I have felt...hungry and hunting for something to

eat! lol

Sharon in Onyx

who is taller than Pat and Marta, and Alyssa....wow, I love you guys!

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> Or duhhh...it could be that your taller and should weigh

> more...lol...also you are younger and should have more muscle mass

> naturally, therefore, you will weigh more and be in a smaller size

> cloths! That number on the scales don't even come close to telling

> the whole story...silly, cute as a button woman.

>

> Hugs

> Jo

Thanks Jo!

You are right I am taller than Pat! I am so used to being the short

one in the croud that my height never even entered into my thoughts.

lol How funny.

Now I will have to work on that muscle thingy...drat that Jo, she is

always coming up with something thats good for us...lol

I will see your tiny self tomorrow eve for dinner. Cant wait.

The Hungry Hunter eh? I have never eaten there before. Although

lately that is how I have felt...hungry and hunting for something to

eat! lol

Sharon in Onyx

who is taller than Pat and Marta, and Alyssa....wow, I love you guys!

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> ===================

>

> Or duhhh...it could be that your taller and should weigh

> more...lol...also you are younger and should have more muscle mass

> naturally, therefore, you will weigh more and be in a smaller size

> cloths! That number on the scales don't even come close to

telling

> the whole story...silly, cute as a button woman.

>

> Hugs

> Jo

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~``

Does that mean I am a saggy baggie??LOL

Pat

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> DS 4/30/03 341

> 12/9/03 265

Lillie,

Are you saying you are now at 259 and don't want to lose anymore? Or

am I reading your post wrong?

Hugs,

Laurie

DS Revision 8/12/04

197 days to go!!!

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> DS 4/30/03 341

> 12/9/03 265

Lillie,

Are you saying you are now at 259 and don't want to lose anymore? Or

am I reading your post wrong?

Hugs,

Laurie

DS Revision 8/12/04

197 days to go!!!

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Yes I am happy here at 259 I know I'll lose more but if not more comes off

IT WAS WORTH IT

Lillie

If we are facing in the right direction,

all we have to do is keep on walking.

-- Buddhist proverb

DS 4/30/03 341

12/9/03 265

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> DS 4/30/03 341

> 12/9/03 265

Lillie,

Are you saying you are now at 259 and don't want to lose anymore? Or

am I reading your post wrong?

Hugs,

Laurie

DS Revision 8/12/04

197 days to go!!!

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> Yes I am happy here at 259 I know I'll lose more but if not more

comes off

> IT WAS WORTH IT

Lillie,

Wow...good attitude, I guess, but I would say go for the gusto! I

think you've got a ways to go before you'll stop losing. :-) Enjoy

the gravy!

Hugs,

Laurie

DS Revision 8/12/04

197 days to go!!!

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> Yes I am happy here at 259 I know I'll lose more but if not more

comes off

> IT WAS WORTH IT

Lillie,

Wow...good attitude, I guess, but I would say go for the gusto! I

think you've got a ways to go before you'll stop losing. :-) Enjoy

the gravy!

Hugs,

Laurie

DS Revision 8/12/04

197 days to go!!!

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:o) I had mayonaise in with my tuna - would you consider that enough

fat? Or are you talking about eating something cooked in oil? Hate

to be dumb - but I guess I am :o)

That may be enough for you to get things moving. It wouldnt be for

me but my body has adjusted somewhat to the surgery. Go easy, try

this. If you dont notice a difference in the bathroom in the morning

try something fried, or like Pat eat the fat off your steak instead

of throwing it out. I always eat the fat on my steak, pork chops,

etc. I love bacon. KFC crispy chicken...leave the skin on your

chicken (I always do. It is the best part...lol) Any of these may

help you. I will have to admit, when I need a good cleaning out, I

eat a Krispy Kreme donut...no others effect me the same way they do.

Or cheetos....that always works. We are all so different, you just

need to try different things...but go slow and try one thing at a

time. One, so you know what works and two, so you dont regret it the

next day. It also helps to know what to avoid if you have to be

somewhere early in the morning the next day. lol

hth

Sharon in Onyx

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:o) I had mayonaise in with my tuna - would you consider that enough

fat? Or are you talking about eating something cooked in oil? Hate

to be dumb - but I guess I am :o)

That may be enough for you to get things moving. It wouldnt be for

me but my body has adjusted somewhat to the surgery. Go easy, try

this. If you dont notice a difference in the bathroom in the morning

try something fried, or like Pat eat the fat off your steak instead

of throwing it out. I always eat the fat on my steak, pork chops,

etc. I love bacon. KFC crispy chicken...leave the skin on your

chicken (I always do. It is the best part...lol) Any of these may

help you. I will have to admit, when I need a good cleaning out, I

eat a Krispy Kreme donut...no others effect me the same way they do.

Or cheetos....that always works. We are all so different, you just

need to try different things...but go slow and try one thing at a

time. One, so you know what works and two, so you dont regret it the

next day. It also helps to know what to avoid if you have to be

somewhere early in the morning the next day. lol

hth

Sharon in Onyx

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> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~``

> Does that mean I am a saggy baggie??LOL

> Pat

=====================

Ok Pat...hugging you too! What it means is Sharon can't whine about

you weighing less because you two are different heights and ages.

And to directly answer your question... YES you are saggy

baggie...lol...all of us who have lost 100 plus pounds are saggy

baggie somewhere on our bodies!!!! I personally think it's a look

that is going to catch on and everyone will want it!!!

Jo

living in my own little world cuz it's my happy place

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> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~``

> Does that mean I am a saggy baggie??LOL

> Pat

=====================

Ok Pat...hugging you too! What it means is Sharon can't whine about

you weighing less because you two are different heights and ages.

And to directly answer your question... YES you are saggy

baggie...lol...all of us who have lost 100 plus pounds are saggy

baggie somewhere on our bodies!!!! I personally think it's a look

that is going to catch on and everyone will want it!!!

Jo

living in my own little world cuz it's my happy place

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KFC crispy chicken...leave the skin on your

> chicken (I always do. It is the best part...lol)

Sharon, you evil woman! I cannot tolerate any deep fried skin stuff

these days, just the thought makes me sick to my stomach. It would

kill me to eat that stuff. Maybe that is why I am so small now, but

I have really changed my eating habits. If I eat that stuff I will

be " cleaned out " all right. Diarrhea. I prefer the natural action

of my sprouted grain bread, daily normal BMs.

Marta

who is eating peeze porridge...four days old right now,

unrefrigerated, to boot! Do as I say, not as I do.

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> Where else in the world can hear to eat a donut or fried chicken

to get the weight loss going - too funny - but I'm game - will let

you know how it goes - had some cheetos this afteroon - yummy - I'm

trying to calm down and relax -

RFLMFAO!!!

Marta

I get $20 everytime someone eats Cheetos! Did you buy your Depends,

yet? Seriously. If not, you will tomorrow!

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> Where else in the world can hear to eat a donut or fried chicken

to get the weight loss going - too funny - but I'm game - will let

you know how it goes - had some cheetos this afteroon - yummy - I'm

trying to calm down and relax -

RFLMFAO!!!

Marta

I get $20 everytime someone eats Cheetos! Did you buy your Depends,

yet? Seriously. If not, you will tomorrow!

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