Re: Something very odd going on (behind the scenes?) MMR again

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<<MMR contamination by avian retrovirus>>This wasn't the Urabe MMR, was it?From: Neno/Natasa <neno@...>Subject: Something very odd going on (behind the scenes?) MMR again"Autism Treatment " <Autism Treatment >Date: Wednesday, 29 September, 2010, 11:24

What have we here?

A vaccine “expert†Robin Weiss in the UK is currently denouncing MMR link to autism, and XMRV link to human diseases, and calling on CDC negative xmrv studies as definite ‘evidence of absence’ in the same breath. Go figure.

http://www.biomedcentral.com/1741-7007/8/124

Btw the same CDC researchers who were busy denoucing MMR contamination by avian retrovirus in the early 90s are now ‘not finding xmrv’ and asking everyone to ‘just stop looking, nothing to see, our study is definite’. Of course others are finding stuff and carrying on (hopefully for much longer) ....

Robin Weiss is not just anybody, unfortunately. He has very close links to pharma, and great media influence (he is also closely linked to the uk science media centre snakepit).

I'm not sure how involved he is with the government vaccine policies, but would be very surprised if he is not sitting on an advisory panel somewhere. Anyone?

He first appeared in Lancet recently trying to play down xmrv, where he also COMPLETELY OUT OF THE BLUE AND OUT OF CONTEXT mentioned ‘no MMR link to autism’ in the same breath as ‘no xmrv link to human disease’. There was absolutely nothing in the article that remotely pointed to either mmr or autism.

Very very weird.

Natasa

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not sure, probably

<<MMR contamination by avian retrovirus>>

This wasn't the Urabe MMR, was it?

From: Neno/Natasa <neno@...>

Subject: Something very odd going on (behind the scenes?) MMR again

" Autism Treatment " <Autism Treatment >

Date: Wednesday, 29 September, 2010, 11:24

What have we here?

A vaccine “expert” Robin Weiss in the UK is currently denouncing MMR link to autism, and XMRV link to human diseases, and calling on CDC negative xmrv studies as definite ‘evidence of absence’ in the same breath. Go figure.

http://www.biomedcentral.com/1741-7007/8/124

Btw the same CDC researchers who were busy denoucing MMR contamination by avian retrovirus in the early 90s are now ‘not finding xmrv’ and asking everyone to ‘just stop looking, nothing to see, our study is definite’. Of course others are finding stuff and carrying on (hopefully for much longer) ....

Robin Weiss is not just anybody, unfortunately. He has very close links to pharma, and great media influence (he is also closely linked to the uk science media centre snakepit).

I'm not sure how involved he is with the government vaccine policies, but would be very surprised if he is not sitting on an advisory panel somewhere. Anyone?

He first appeared in Lancet recently trying to play down xmrv, where he also COMPLETELY OUT OF THE BLUE AND OUT OF CONTEXT mentioned ‘no MMR link to autism’ in the same breath as ‘no xmrv link to human disease’. There was absolutely nothing in the article that remotely pointed to either mmr or autism.

Very very weird.

Natasa

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, looking at this I think any early MMR would have had the same problem, because have a look at this from 1966!!!

Contaminant viruses in two live virus vaccines produced in chick cells http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2134684/?page=1

lots of literature on avian retrovirus contamination of yellow fever vaccines as well.

The bastards KNEW all along. Pass the pitchfork please.

btw WHO nowdays requires manufacturers of live virus vaccine to have avian-retrovirus free certificate. Cannot find when the requirement was introduced

<<MMR contamination by avian retrovirus>>

This wasn't the Urabe MMR, was it?

From: Neno/Natasa <neno@...>

Subject: Something very odd going on (behind the scenes?) MMR again

" Autism Treatment " <Autism Treatment >

Date: Wednesday, 29 September, 2010, 11:24

What have we here?

A vaccine “expert” Robin Weiss in the UK is currently denouncing MMR link to autism, and XMRV link to human diseases, and calling on CDC negative xmrv studies as definite ‘evidence of absence’ in the same breath. Go figure.

http://www.biomedcentral.com/1741-7007/8/124

Btw the same CDC researchers who were busy denoucing MMR contamination by avian retrovirus in the early 90s are now ‘not finding xmrv’ and asking everyone to ‘just stop looking, nothing to see, our study is definite’. Of course others are finding stuff and carrying on (hopefully for much longer) ....

Robin Weiss is not just anybody, unfortunately. He has very close links to pharma, and great media influence (he is also closely linked to the uk science media centre snakepit).

I'm not sure how involved he is with the government vaccine policies, but would be very surprised if he is not sitting on an advisory panel somewhere. Anyone?

He first appeared in Lancet recently trying to play down xmrv, where he also COMPLETELY OUT OF THE BLUE AND OUT OF CONTEXT mentioned ‘no MMR link to autism’ in the same breath as ‘no xmrv link to human disease’. There was absolutely nothing in the article that remotely pointed to either mmr or autism.

Very very weird.

Natasa

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Oh my....and look at the reference to the Simian virus in the polio vaccine causing tumors in lab animals...My policy is better the devil you know than the devil you don't know. You can't make an informed decision when the evidence is not presented.....I'd rather deal with the disease in its natural form...... :-((

From: Neno/Natasa <neno@...>

Subject: Something very odd going on (behind the scenes?) MMR again

"Autism Treatment " <Autism Treatment >

Date: Wednesday, 29 September, 2010, 11:24

What have we here?

A vaccine “expert†Robin Weiss in the UK is currently denouncing MMR link to autism, and XMRV link to human diseases, and calling on CDC negative xmrv studies as definite ‘evidence of absence’ in the same breath. Go figure.

http://www.biomedcentral.com/1741-7007/8/124

Btw the same CDC researchers who were busy denoucing MMR contamination by avian retrovirus in the early 90s are now ‘not finding xmrv’ and asking everyone to ‘just stop looking, nothing to see, our study is definite’. Of course others are finding stuff and carrying on (hopefully for much longer) ....

Robin Weiss is not just anybody, unfortunately. He has very close links to pharma, and great media influence (he is also closely linked to the uk science media centre snakepit).

I'm not sure how involved he is with the government vaccine policies, but would be very surprised if he is not sitting on an advisory panel somewhere. Anyone?

He first appeared in Lancet recently trying to play down xmrv, where he also COMPLETELY OUT OF THE BLUE AND OUT OF CONTEXT mentioned ‘no MMR link to autism’ in the same breath as ‘no xmrv link to human disease’. There was absolutely nothing in the article that remotely pointed to either mmr or autism.

Very very weird.

Natasa