Guest guest Posted July 6, 2010 Report Share Posted July 6, 2010 thank you for the lesson i so love to learn! ________________________________ From: mromargarcia <mromargarcia@...> kombucha tea Sent: Mon, July 5, 2010 8:18:54 AM Subject: Fluoride! Folks, I am not sure if this is clear to everyone, so just as a matter of warning I send this post. I think that I was affected by it. Humans ingest much more fluoride than desired and it has many detrimental health effects. One of the things it causes is affect the absorption and use of iodine, which is indispensable for good functioning of the thyroid, which is extremely important for the immune system. Read an explanation below. Camelia Sinensis posesses the characteristic of absorbing fluoride from the soil. If the latter is contaminated or if they use fluoride based chemicals as fertilizers or pesticides, then the leaves will have high amounts of fluoride. See abstract below. There is one solution. Apparently the type of tea, the cultivation manner (i.e. organic tea o regular), and the quality of it do have an impact. See quote from book on the subject. It seems that white organic or oolong organic are good choices, but never drink brick tea. Hope this helps. . _______________________________________________ From a chemist: No discussion about the body's immune system would be complete without an explanation of THE LAW OF HALOGEN DISPLACEMENT. There are five elements that make up what is known as the HALOGEN family of elements. The Halogen Law states that, " The Halogen element having the LOWEST atomic weight will ALWAYS DISPLACE another within the Halogen group whose atomic weight is greater. " Arranged in ascending order, the Halogen family is as follows: Element Symbol Atomic Weight Fluorine F 9 Chlorine Cl 17 Bromine Br 35 Iodine I 53 Asatine At 85 Both Fluorine and Chlorine are sometimes additives to public water supplies. These two toxic elements will ALWAYS displace Iodine, an element that is vitally needed to protect your Thyroid gland. ________________________________________________ http://www3.interscience.wiley.com/journal/105557587/abstract?CRETRY=1 & SRETRY=0 Uptake of fluoride by tea plant (Camellia sinensis L) and the impact of aluminium Abstract Tea plant (Camellia sinensis L) accumulates large amounts of fluoride in mature leaves from soils of normal fluoride availabilities, but the properties of fluoride absorption by this plant species are not well understood. The present study examined the characteristic of fluoride uptake by tea plants and the impact of Al with solution and soil experiments. The results showed that the fluoride taken up by tea plants was largely and readily transported, in particular to the leaves. The fluoride in leaves increased linearly with fluoride concentrations in the uptake solution (R2 = 0.75, P < 0.001) or in the soil (R2 = 0.88, P < 0.001), whereas those in root and stem were only marginally influenced.... ______________________________________________________ The Healing Power of Tea, by D. , Page 36 Fluoride: " The tea plant absorbs fluoride from the soil and from fertilizer, and the mineral accumulates in the leaves over time. The amount of fluoride in brewed tea varies depending on the type of leaf, the brewing time, and the amount of fluoride in the water. in general, high quality tea, which is made from younger leaves, contains less fluoride. That means white tea, which is made from the very youngest, opened leaf buds, is unlikely to have much fluoride at all. Of the more common teas, oolong tea has the least fluoride (0.1 - 0.2 mg per 8 ounces) while black tea has the most (0.2-0.5) mg per 8 ounces. Green tea is in between the two with 0.3-0.4 mg per 8 ounces. Brick tea, a lower grade of tea made from older leaves and stems, has the most fluoride of all (0.5-1.7 per 8 ounces), but it is rarely consumed in the United States. The fluoride content provided above does not include the water in which the tea is brewed. " " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 7, 2010 Report Share Posted July 7, 2010 Glad to hear that (or read that). If only one person learns about it and avoids a very bad situation, I'm happy, no, not happy, thrilled. Thanks Tonya. . > > thank you for the lesson i so love to learn! > > > > > > ________________________________ > From: mromargarcia <mromargarcia@...> > kombucha tea > Sent: Mon, July 5, 2010 8:18:54 AM > Subject: Fluoride! > > > Folks, > > I am not sure if this is clear to everyone, so just as a matter of warning I send this post. I think that I was affected by it. > > Humans ingest much more fluoride than desired and it has many detrimental health effects. One of the things it causes is affect the absorption and use of iodine, which is indispensable for good functioning of the thyroid, which is extremely important for the immune system. Read an explanation below. > > Camelia Sinensis posesses the characteristic of absorbing fluoride from the soil. If the latter is contaminated or if they use fluoride based chemicals as fertilizers or pesticides, then the leaves will have high amounts of fluoride. See abstract below. > > There is one solution. Apparently the type of tea, the cultivation manner (i.e. organic tea o regular), and the quality of it do have an impact. See quote from book on the subject. It seems that white organic or oolong organic are good choices, but never drink brick tea. > > Hope this helps. > > . > > _______________________________________________ > From a chemist: > > No discussion about the body's immune system would be complete without an explanation of THE LAW OF HALOGEN DISPLACEMENT. There are five elements that make up what is known as the HALOGEN family of elements. The Halogen Law states that, " The Halogen element having the LOWEST atomic weight will ALWAYS DISPLACE another within the Halogen group whose atomic weight is greater. " Arranged in ascending order, the Halogen family is as follows: > > Element Symbol Atomic Weight > Fluorine F 9 Chlorine Cl 17 Bromine Br 35 Iodine I 53 Asatine At 85 > > Both Fluorine and Chlorine are sometimes additives to public water supplies. These two toxic elements will ALWAYS displace Iodine, an element that is vitally needed to protect your Thyroid gland. > ________________________________________________ > > http://www3.interscience.wiley.com/journal/105557587/abstract?CRETRY=1 & SRETRY=0 > > Uptake of fluoride by tea plant (Camellia sinensis L) and the impact of aluminium > Abstract > Tea plant (Camellia sinensis L) accumulates large amounts of fluoride in mature leaves from soils of normal fluoride availabilities, but the properties of fluoride absorption by this plant species are not well understood. The present study examined the characteristic of fluoride uptake by tea plants and the impact of Al with solution and soil experiments. The results showed that the fluoride taken up by tea plants was largely and readily transported, in particular to the leaves. The fluoride in leaves increased linearly with fluoride concentrations in the uptake solution (R2 = 0.75, P < 0.001) or in the soil (R2 = 0.88, P < 0.001), whereas those in root and stem were only marginally influenced.... > ______________________________________________________ > > The Healing Power of Tea, by D. , Page 36 > > Fluoride: > " The tea plant absorbs fluoride from the soil and from fertilizer, and the mineral accumulates in the leaves over time. The amount of fluoride in brewed tea varies depending on the type of leaf, the brewing time, and the amount of fluoride in the water. in general, high quality tea, which is made from younger leaves, contains less fluoride. That means white tea, which is made from the very youngest, opened leaf buds, is unlikely to have much fluoride at all. Of the more common teas, oolong tea has the least fluoride (0.1 - 0.2 mg per 8 ounces) while black tea has the most (0.2-0.5) mg per 8 ounces. Green tea is in between the two with 0.3-0.4 mg per 8 ounces. Brick tea, a lower grade of tea made from older leaves and stems, has the most fluoride of all (0.5-1.7 per 8 ounces), but it is rarely consumed in the United States. The fluoride content provided above does not include the water in which the tea is brewed. " " > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 7, 2010 Report Share Posted July 7, 2010 well keep up the good work! As i ,cannot imagine a day going by, that i did not learn at least 1 new thing! thank you much. where are you from? i am from the midwest(st.louis area). ________________________________ From: mromargarcia <mromargarcia@...> kombucha tea Sent: Wed, July 7, 2010 8:44:18 AM Subject: Re: Fluoride! Glad to hear that (or read that). If only one person learns about it and avoids a very bad situation, I'm happy, no, not happy, thrilled. Thanks Tonya. . > > thank you for the lesson i so love to learn! > > > > > > ________________________________ > From: mromargarcia <mromargarcia@...> > kombucha tea > Sent: Mon, July 5, 2010 8:18:54 AM > Subject: Fluoride! > > > Folks, > > I am not sure if this is clear to everyone, so just as a matter of warning I >send this post. I think that I was affected by it. > > Humans ingest much more fluoride than desired and it has many detrimental >health effects. One of the things it causes is affect the absorption and use of >iodine, which is indispensable for good functioning of the thyroid, which is >extremely important for the immune system. Read an explanation below. > > Camelia Sinensis posesses the characteristic of absorbing fluoride from the >soil. If the latter is contaminated or if they use fluoride based chemicals as >fertilizers or pesticides, then the leaves will have high amounts of fluoride. >See abstract below. > > There is one solution. Apparently the type of tea, the cultivation manner >(i.e. organic tea o regular), and the quality of it do have an impact. See >quote from book on the subject. It seems that white organic or oolong organic >are good choices, but never drink brick tea. > > Hope this helps. > > . > > _______________________________________________ > From a chemist: > > No discussion about the body's immune system would be complete without an >explanation of THE LAW OF HALOGEN DISPLACEMENT. There are five elements that >make up what is known as the HALOGEN family of elements. The Halogen Law states >that, " The Halogen element having the LOWEST atomic weight will ALWAYS DISPLACE >another within the Halogen group whose atomic weight is greater. " Arranged in >ascending order, the Halogen family is as follows: > > > Element Symbol Atomic Weight > Fluorine F 9 Chlorine Cl 17 Bromine Br 35 Iodine I 53 Asatine At 85 > > Both Fluorine and Chlorine are sometimes additives to public water supplies. >These two toxic elements will ALWAYS displace Iodine, an element that is vitally >needed to protect your Thyroid gland. > ________________________________________________ > > http://www3.interscience.wiley.com/journal/105557587/abstract?CRETRY=1 & SRETRY=0 > > Uptake of fluoride by tea plant (Camellia sinensis L) and the impact of >aluminium > Abstract > Tea plant (Camellia sinensis L) accumulates large amounts of fluoride in mature >leaves from soils of normal fluoride availabilities, but the properties of >fluoride absorption by this plant species are not well understood. The present >study examined the characteristic of fluoride uptake by tea plants and the >impact of Al with solution and soil experiments. The results showed that the >fluoride taken up by tea plants was largely and readily transported, in >particular to the leaves. The fluoride in leaves increased linearly with >fluoride concentrations in the uptake solution (R2 = 0.75, P < 0.001) or in the >soil (R2 = 0.88, P < 0.001), whereas those in root and stem were only marginally >influenced.... > ______________________________________________________ > > The Healing Power of Tea, by D. , Page 36 > > Fluoride: > " The tea plant absorbs fluoride from the soil and from fertilizer, and the >mineral accumulates in the leaves over time. The amount of fluoride in brewed >tea varies depending on the type of leaf, the brewing time, and the amount of >fluoride in the water. in general, high quality tea, which is made from younger >leaves, contains less fluoride. That means white tea, which is made from the >very youngest, opened leaf buds, is unlikely to have much fluoride at all. Of >the more common teas, oolong tea has the least fluoride (0.1 - 0.2 mg per 8 >ounces) while black tea has the most (0.2-0.5) mg per 8 ounces. Green tea is in >between the two with 0.3-0.4 mg per 8 ounces. Brick tea, a lower grade of tea >made from older leaves and stems, has the most fluoride of all (0.5-1.7 per 8 >ounces), but it is rarely consumed in the United States. The fluoride content >provided above does not include the water in which the tea is brewed. " " > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 7, 2010 Report Share Posted July 7, 2010 so if I dont use toothpaste or water with fluoride in it then the remaining intake is through foods and there is less of a chance of intaking too much? and if I ever get to my ideal situation where my plants are being watered with well water instead of city water, then it would be less as well? does fluoride leave water when it is distilled? I wonder if they stared iodizing " table salt " after it was figured out that the fluoride in tap water was doing this....one more thing I may have to look up! Meggan Time is what we want most, but what we use worst. Penn On Wed, Jul 7, 2010 at 6:44 AM, mromargarcia <mromargarcia@...> wrote: > > > Glad to hear that (or read that). If only one person learns about it and > avoids a very bad situation, I'm happy, no, not happy, thrilled. > > Thanks Tonya. . > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 8, 2010 Report Share Posted July 8, 2010 Hi Tonya, We are all here to learn from each other. I have learned so much from this group. I am originally from Mexico, but have lived in Michigan for a while, although just recently moved to NC. I have a good friend in St Louis and just recently visited her. She took me to see the university and the Forest Park, very nice. O. > > > > thank you for the lesson i so love to learn! > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > From: mromargarcia <mromargarcia@> > > kombucha tea > > Sent: Mon, July 5, 2010 8:18:54 AM > > Subject: Fluoride! > > > > > > Folks, > > > > I am not sure if this is clear to everyone, so just as a matter of warning I > >send this post. I think that I was affected by it. > > > > Humans ingest much more fluoride than desired and it has many detrimental > >health effects. One of the things it causes is affect the absorption and use of > >iodine, which is indispensable for good functioning of the thyroid, which is > >extremely important for the immune system. Read an explanation below. > > > > Camelia Sinensis posesses the characteristic of absorbing fluoride from the > >soil. If the latter is contaminated or if they use fluoride based chemicals as > >fertilizers or pesticides, then the leaves will have high amounts of fluoride. > >See abstract below. > > > > There is one solution. Apparently the type of tea, the cultivation manner > >(i.e. organic tea o regular), and the quality of it do have an impact. See > >quote from book on the subject. It seems that white organic or oolong organic > >are good choices, but never drink brick tea. > > > > Hope this helps. > > > > . > > > > _______________________________________________ > > From a chemist: > > > > No discussion about the body's immune system would be complete without an > >explanation of THE LAW OF HALOGEN DISPLACEMENT. There are five elements that > >make up what is known as the HALOGEN family of elements. The Halogen Law states > >that, " The Halogen element having the LOWEST atomic weight will ALWAYS DISPLACE > >another within the Halogen group whose atomic weight is greater. " Arranged in > >ascending order, the Halogen family is as follows: > > > > > > Element Symbol Atomic Weight > > Fluorine F 9 Chlorine Cl 17 Bromine Br 35 Iodine I 53 Asatine At 85 > > > > Both Fluorine and Chlorine are sometimes additives to public water supplies. > >These two toxic elements will ALWAYS displace Iodine, an element that is vitally > >needed to protect your Thyroid gland. > > ________________________________________________ > > > > > http://www3.interscience.wiley.com/journal/105557587/abstract?CRETRY=1 & SRETRY=0 > > > > Uptake of fluoride by tea plant (Camellia sinensis L) and the impact of > >aluminium > > Abstract > > Tea plant (Camellia sinensis L) accumulates large amounts of fluoride in mature > >leaves from soils of normal fluoride availabilities, but the properties of > >fluoride absorption by this plant species are not well understood. The present > >study examined the characteristic of fluoride uptake by tea plants and the > >impact of Al with solution and soil experiments. The results showed that the > >fluoride taken up by tea plants was largely and readily transported, in > >particular to the leaves. The fluoride in leaves increased linearly with > >fluoride concentrations in the uptake solution (R2 = 0.75, P < 0.001) or in the > >soil (R2 = 0.88, P < 0.001), whereas those in root and stem were only marginally > >influenced.... > > ______________________________________________________ > > > > The Healing Power of Tea, by D. , Page 36 > > > > Fluoride: > > " The tea plant absorbs fluoride from the soil and from fertilizer, and the > >mineral accumulates in the leaves over time. The amount of fluoride in brewed > >tea varies depending on the type of leaf, the brewing time, and the amount of > >fluoride in the water. in general, high quality tea, which is made from younger > >leaves, contains less fluoride. That means white tea, which is made from the > >very youngest, opened leaf buds, is unlikely to have much fluoride at all. Of > >the more common teas, oolong tea has the least fluoride (0.1 - 0.2 mg per 8 > >ounces) while black tea has the most (0.2-0.5) mg per 8 ounces. Green tea is in > >between the two with 0.3-0.4 mg per 8 ounces. Brick tea, a lower grade of tea > >made from older leaves and stems, has the most fluoride of all (0.5-1.7 per 8 > >ounces), but it is rarely consumed in the United States. The fluoride content > >provided above does not include the water in which the tea is brewed. " " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 8, 2010 Report Share Posted July 8, 2010 Hi , You are wise in avoiding excess fluoride using non-fluoridated tooth paste. Apparently some plants are more sensitive than others regarding fluoride content, but definitely a well is the best way to go if you live in an area where pollution is not excessive. And yes, distilled water does not have fluoride in it, although other chemicals may still be there. From what I have learned, I coupled system of a distiller with a carbon or reverse osmosis filter will do the trick perfectly and give you water without anything. But then the water does not have the " good " minerals either. I am trying not to make the issue complicated, but fluoride is difficult to get rid of. You know, the surprising thing here is that the water systems add it intentionally, even though there are plenty of studies that say that ingesting fluoride does not prevent tooth decay, and does cause many health issues. Ain't that crazy? O. > > > > > > > Glad to hear that (or read that). If only one person learns about it and > > avoids a very bad situation, I'm happy, no, not happy, thrilled. > > > > Thanks Tonya. . > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 8, 2010 Report Share Posted July 8, 2010 yes, we do learn alot on these sites as well as on the internet. i used to not be interested in computers and the internet until my father explained that it was as if you have a library and much more at your hands.....now i even carry a blackberry. there is never a dull moment when you have all of this info at your fingertips. thank you and all for the info! ________________________________ From: mromargarcia <mromargarcia@...> kombucha tea Sent: Thu, July 8, 2010 7:55:11 AM Subject: Re: Fluoride! Hi Tonya, We are all here to learn from each other. I have learned so much from this group. I am originally from Mexico, but have lived in Michigan for a while, although just recently moved to NC. I have a good friend in St Louis and just recently visited her. She took me to see the university and the Forest Park, very nice. O. > > > > thank you for the lesson i so love to learn! > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > From: mromargarcia <mromargarcia@> > > kombucha tea > > Sent: Mon, July 5, 2010 8:18:54 AM > > Subject: Fluoride! > > > > > > Folks, > > > > I am not sure if this is clear to everyone, so just as a matter of warning I > >send this post. I think that I was affected by it. > > > > Humans ingest much more fluoride than desired and it has many detrimental > >health effects. One of the things it causes is affect the absorption and use >of > > >iodine, which is indispensable for good functioning of the thyroid, which is > >extremely important for the immune system. Read an explanation below. > > > > Camelia Sinensis posesses the characteristic of absorbing fluoride from the > >soil. If the latter is contaminated or if they use fluoride based chemicals >as > > >fertilizers or pesticides, then the leaves will have high amounts of fluoride. > > >See abstract below. > > > > There is one solution. Apparently the type of tea, the cultivation manner > >(i.e. organic tea o regular), and the quality of it do have an impact. See > >quote from book on the subject. It seems that white organic or oolong organic > > >are good choices, but never drink brick tea. > > > > Hope this helps. > > > > . > > > > _______________________________________________ > > From a chemist: > > > > No discussion about the body's immune system would be complete without an > >explanation of THE LAW OF HALOGEN DISPLACEMENT. There are five elements that > >make up what is known as the HALOGEN family of elements. The Halogen Law >states > > >that, " The Halogen element having the LOWEST atomic weight will ALWAYS >DISPLACE > > >another within the Halogen group whose atomic weight is greater. " Arranged in > >ascending order, the Halogen family is as follows: > > > > > > Element Symbol Atomic Weight > > Fluorine F 9 Chlorine Cl 17 Bromine Br 35 Iodine I 53 Asatine At 85 > > > > Both Fluorine and Chlorine are sometimes additives to public water supplies. > >These two toxic elements will ALWAYS displace Iodine, an element that is >vitally > > >needed to protect your Thyroid gland. > > ________________________________________________ > > > > > http://www3.interscience.wiley.com/journal/105557587/abstract?CRETRY=1 & SRETRY=0 > > > > Uptake of fluoride by tea plant (Camellia sinensis L) and the impact of > >aluminium > > Abstract > > Tea plant (Camellia sinensis L) accumulates large amounts of fluoride in >mature > > >leaves from soils of normal fluoride availabilities, but the properties of > >fluoride absorption by this plant species are not well understood. The present > > >study examined the characteristic of fluoride uptake by tea plants and the > >impact of Al with solution and soil experiments. The results showed that the > >fluoride taken up by tea plants was largely and readily transported, in > >particular to the leaves. The fluoride in leaves increased linearly with > >fluoride concentrations in the uptake solution (R2 = 0.75, P < 0.001) or in >the > > >soil (R2 = 0.88, P < 0.001), whereas those in root and stem were only >marginally > > >influenced.... > > ______________________________________________________ > > > > The Healing Power of Tea, by D. , Page 36 > > > > Fluoride: > > " The tea plant absorbs fluoride from the soil and from fertilizer, and the > >mineral accumulates in the leaves over time. The amount of fluoride in brewed > >tea varies depending on the type of leaf, the brewing time, and the amount of > >fluoride in the water. in general, high quality tea, which is made from >younger > > >leaves, contains less fluoride. That means white tea, which is made from the > >very youngest, opened leaf buds, is unlikely to have much fluoride at all. Of > >the more common teas, oolong tea has the least fluoride (0.1 - 0.2 mg per 8 > >ounces) while black tea has the most (0.2-0.5) mg per 8 ounces. Green tea is >in > > >between the two with 0.3-0.4 mg per 8 ounces. Brick tea, a lower grade of tea > >made from older leaves and stems, has the most fluoride of all (0.5-1.7 per 8 > >ounces), but it is rarely consumed in the United States. The fluoride content > >provided above does not include the water in which the tea is brewed. " " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 8, 2010 Report Share Posted July 8, 2010 yes, we do learn alot on these sites as well as on the internet. i used to not be interested in computers and the internet until my father explained that it was as if you have a library and much more at your hands.....now i even carry a blackberry. there is never a dull moment when you have all of this info at your fingertips. thank you and all for the info! ________________________________ From: mromargarcia <mromargarcia@...> kombucha tea Sent: Thu, July 8, 2010 7:55:11 AM Subject: Re: Fluoride! Hi Tonya, We are all here to learn from each other. I have learned so much from this group. I am originally from Mexico, but have lived in Michigan for a while, although just recently moved to NC. I have a good friend in St Louis and just recently visited her. She took me to see the university and the Forest Park, very nice. O. > > > > thank you for the lesson i so love to learn! > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > From: mromargarcia <mromargarcia@> > > kombucha tea > > Sent: Mon, July 5, 2010 8:18:54 AM > > Subject: Fluoride! > > > > > > Folks, > > > > I am not sure if this is clear to everyone, so just as a matter of warning I > >send this post. I think that I was affected by it. > > > > Humans ingest much more fluoride than desired and it has many detrimental > >health effects. One of the things it causes is affect the absorption and use >of > > >iodine, which is indispensable for good functioning of the thyroid, which is > >extremely important for the immune system. Read an explanation below. > > > > Camelia Sinensis posesses the characteristic of absorbing fluoride from the > >soil. If the latter is contaminated or if they use fluoride based chemicals >as > > >fertilizers or pesticides, then the leaves will have high amounts of fluoride. > > >See abstract below. > > > > There is one solution. Apparently the type of tea, the cultivation manner > >(i.e. organic tea o regular), and the quality of it do have an impact. See > >quote from book on the subject. It seems that white organic or oolong organic > > >are good choices, but never drink brick tea. > > > > Hope this helps. > > > > . > > > > _______________________________________________ > > From a chemist: > > > > No discussion about the body's immune system would be complete without an > >explanation of THE LAW OF HALOGEN DISPLACEMENT. There are five elements that > >make up what is known as the HALOGEN family of elements. The Halogen Law >states > > >that, " The Halogen element having the LOWEST atomic weight will ALWAYS >DISPLACE > > >another within the Halogen group whose atomic weight is greater. " Arranged in > >ascending order, the Halogen family is as follows: > > > > > > Element Symbol Atomic Weight > > Fluorine F 9 Chlorine Cl 17 Bromine Br 35 Iodine I 53 Asatine At 85 > > > > Both Fluorine and Chlorine are sometimes additives to public water supplies. > >These two toxic elements will ALWAYS displace Iodine, an element that is >vitally > > >needed to protect your Thyroid gland. > > ________________________________________________ > > > > > http://www3.interscience.wiley.com/journal/105557587/abstract?CRETRY=1 & SRETRY=0 > > > > Uptake of fluoride by tea plant (Camellia sinensis L) and the impact of > >aluminium > > Abstract > > Tea plant (Camellia sinensis L) accumulates large amounts of fluoride in >mature > > >leaves from soils of normal fluoride availabilities, but the properties of > >fluoride absorption by this plant species are not well understood. The present > > >study examined the characteristic of fluoride uptake by tea plants and the > >impact of Al with solution and soil experiments. The results showed that the > >fluoride taken up by tea plants was largely and readily transported, in > >particular to the leaves. The fluoride in leaves increased linearly with > >fluoride concentrations in the uptake solution (R2 = 0.75, P < 0.001) or in >the > > >soil (R2 = 0.88, P < 0.001), whereas those in root and stem were only >marginally > > >influenced.... > > ______________________________________________________ > > > > The Healing Power of Tea, by D. , Page 36 > > > > Fluoride: > > " The tea plant absorbs fluoride from the soil and from fertilizer, and the > >mineral accumulates in the leaves over time. The amount of fluoride in brewed > >tea varies depending on the type of leaf, the brewing time, and the amount of > >fluoride in the water. in general, high quality tea, which is made from >younger > > >leaves, contains less fluoride. That means white tea, which is made from the > >very youngest, opened leaf buds, is unlikely to have much fluoride at all. Of > >the more common teas, oolong tea has the least fluoride (0.1 - 0.2 mg per 8 > >ounces) while black tea has the most (0.2-0.5) mg per 8 ounces. Green tea is >in > > >between the two with 0.3-0.4 mg per 8 ounces. Brick tea, a lower grade of tea > >made from older leaves and stems, has the most fluoride of all (0.5-1.7 per 8 > >ounces), but it is rarely consumed in the United States. The fluoride content > >provided above does not include the water in which the tea is brewed. " " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 8, 2010 Report Share Posted July 8, 2010 So True Tonya! Lots of great info here to share! People certainly left us a wealth of info..never a dull moment.. lots to learn! Luv Jahjet > > > > > > thank you for the lesson i so love to learn! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > From: mromargarcia <mromargarcia@> > > > kombucha tea > > > Sent: Mon, July 5, 2010 8:18:54 AM > > > Subject: Fluoride! > > > > > > > > > Folks, > > > > > > I am not sure if this is clear to everyone, so just as a matter of warning I > > > >send this post. I think that I was affected by it. > > > > > > Humans ingest much more fluoride than desired and it has many detrimental > > >health effects. One of the things it causes is affect the absorption and use > >of > > > > >iodine, which is indispensable for good functioning of the thyroid, which is > > >extremely important for the immune system. Read an explanation below. > > > > > > Camelia Sinensis posesses the characteristic of absorbing fluoride from the > > >soil. If the latter is contaminated or if they use fluoride based chemicals > >as > > > > >fertilizers or pesticides, then the leaves will have high amounts of fluoride. > > > > >See abstract below. > > > > > > There is one solution. Apparently the type of tea, the cultivation manner > > >(i.e. organic tea o regular), and the quality of it do have an impact. See > > >quote from book on the subject. It seems that white organic or oolong organic > > > > >are good choices, but never drink brick tea. > > > > > > Hope this helps. > > > > > > . > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > From a chemist: > > > > > > No discussion about the body's immune system would be complete without an > > >explanation of THE LAW OF HALOGEN DISPLACEMENT. There are five elements that > > >make up what is known as the HALOGEN family of elements. The Halogen Law > >states > > > > >that, " The Halogen element having the LOWEST atomic weight will ALWAYS > >DISPLACE > > > > >another within the Halogen group whose atomic weight is greater. " Arranged in > > > >ascending order, the Halogen family is as follows: > > > > > > > > > Element Symbol Atomic Weight > > > Fluorine F 9 Chlorine Cl 17 Bromine Br 35 Iodine I 53 Asatine At 85 > > > > > > Both Fluorine and Chlorine are sometimes additives to public water supplies. > > > >These two toxic elements will ALWAYS displace Iodine, an element that is > >vitally > > > > >needed to protect your Thyroid gland. > > > ________________________________________________ > > > > > > > > > http://www3.interscience.wiley.com/journal/105557587/abstract?CRETRY=1 & SRETRY=0 > > > > > > Uptake of fluoride by tea plant (Camellia sinensis L) and the impact of > > >aluminium > > > Abstract > > > Tea plant (Camellia sinensis L) accumulates large amounts of fluoride in > >mature > > > > >leaves from soils of normal fluoride availabilities, but the properties of > > >fluoride absorption by this plant species are not well understood. The present > > > > >study examined the characteristic of fluoride uptake by tea plants and the > > >impact of Al with solution and soil experiments. The results showed that the > > >fluoride taken up by tea plants was largely and readily transported, in > > >particular to the leaves. The fluoride in leaves increased linearly with > > >fluoride concentrations in the uptake solution (R2 = 0.75, P < 0.001) or in > >the > > > > >soil (R2 = 0.88, P < 0.001), whereas those in root and stem were only > >marginally > > > > >influenced.... > > > ______________________________________________________ > > > > > > The Healing Power of Tea, by D. , Page 36 > > > > > > Fluoride: > > > " The tea plant absorbs fluoride from the soil and from fertilizer, and the > > >mineral accumulates in the leaves over time. The amount of fluoride in brewed > > > >tea varies depending on the type of leaf, the brewing time, and the amount of > > > >fluoride in the water. in general, high quality tea, which is made from > >younger > > > > >leaves, contains less fluoride. That means white tea, which is made from the > > >very youngest, opened leaf buds, is unlikely to have much fluoride at all. Of > > > >the more common teas, oolong tea has the least fluoride (0.1 - 0.2 mg per 8 > > >ounces) while black tea has the most (0.2-0.5) mg per 8 ounces. Green tea is > >in > > > > >between the two with 0.3-0.4 mg per 8 ounces. Brick tea, a lower grade of tea > > > >made from older leaves and stems, has the most fluoride of all (0.5-1.7 per 8 > > > >ounces), but it is rarely consumed in the United States. The fluoride content > > > >provided above does not include the water in which the tea is brewed. " " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 8, 2010 Report Share Posted July 8, 2010 Good post Tonya! This is one of the reasons I personally drink only organic hand picked teas, and only use organic hand picked teas for my kombucha. (Other reasons are that loose leaf tea is higher in antioxidants, and tastes a whole lot better!) It's the older leaves that have the higher levels fluoride. Loose leaf tea is typically two leaves and a bud -- the newest growth -- and is most usually handpicked. The leaves can be used to make white tea, yellow tea, green tea, black tea or oolong or pu-erh. The difference is in the processing. White tea is steamed and dried quickly. The steaming stops the oxidation. Yellow tea is steamed and dried slowly. The steaming stops the oxidation. Green tea is pan-fried, or rolled and pan-fried or baked to stop further oxidation. Oolongs are bruised and baked to stop further oxidation. Black teas are allowed to fully oxidize before firing. Pu-Erh is green or black tea that is aged after oxidation or firing. This is not the same as brick tea. The issue is not how old the leaf is, but rather how long the leave was on the bush. Even if the tea is coming from trees 100 years old, the fluoride content will not be as great in the newly grown leaves, which is what is typically harvested for higher quality teas. Lower quality teas, such as bagged tea from the grocer, are typically machine harvested. The machine is unable to distinguish between new growth and older leaves, so the bagged tea often contains some older leaves. Organic farming is also not that important to the producers of bagged teas, so higher levels of fluoride may exist in the soil. Brick teas are typically made of lower grade leaves ... this means leaves further down the stem -- 3rd leaf or lower -- or leaves that have been on the plant longer. The leaves are then ground. They absorb more fluoride from the soil (assuming there is high levels of fluoride in the soil.) because they are on the plant longer. Higher levels of fluoride exist in soil that has been fertilized or that have been exposed to pesticides. Organically grown tea plants would not use fertilizers and pesticides that would increase the level of fluoride in the soil, and therefore the fluoride in the tea leaves. Adults can safely intake 3.0-4.0 mg of fluoride per day without great risk of fluorosis or acute toxicity. Fluorosis occurs when an individual has consumed more 10mg. or fluoride per day over an extended period of time. As for toxicity, the lowest dose that could trigger adverse symptoms is considered to be 5 mg/kg of body weight, with the lowest potentially fatal dose considered 15 mg/kg of body weight typically taken in over an extended period of time. Here are some handy fluoride number I hope you'll find useful. Fluoride Content of Teas Type of Tea Fluoride (mg/liter) Fluoride (mg/8 ounces) Green 1.2-1.7 0.3-0.4 Oolong 0.6-1.0 0.1-0.2 Black 1.0-1.9 0.2-0.5 Brick tea 2.2-7.3 0.5-1.7   Food Serving Fluoride (mg) Tea 100 ml (3.5 fluid ounces) 0.1-0.6 Grape juice 100 ml (3.5 fluid ounces) 0.02-0.28 Canned sardines (with bones) 100 g (3.5 ounces) 0.2-0.4 Fish (without bones) 100 g (3.5 ounces) 0.01-0.17 Chicken 100g (3.5 ounces) 0.06-0.10 So while it is always good to b especially cognizant of the foods and beverages you consume, you should feel comfortable drinking tea in moderation. You can always opt for preparing you tea with non-fluoridated water, or alternating between real tea and herbal teas. Tea is far more beneficial than harmful. Hope this helps!  Namaste -- donnalynn, teasmith, SensibiliTeas, 71 Lawrence Street, Glens Falls, NY 12801 (518) 824-1290 (888) 449-9888 www.sensibiliteasonline.com Over 540 teas available. Over 350 organic teas in the collection. 10% discount to OK subscribers when you leave the code KT is OK in the special comments field of the online order form. ________________________________ From: mromargarcia <mromargarcia@...> kombucha tea Sent: Mon, July 5, 2010 9:18:54 AM Subject: Fluoride!  Folks, I am not sure if this is clear to everyone, so just as a matter of warning I send this post. I think that I was affected by it. Humans ingest much more fluoride than desired and it has many detrimental health effects. One of the things it causes is affect the absorption and use of iodine, which is indispensable for good functioning of the thyroid, which is extremely important for the immune system. Read an explanation below. Camelia Sinensis posesses the characteristic of absorbing fluoride from the soil. If the latter is contaminated or if they use fluoride based chemicals as fertilizers or pesticides, then the leaves will have high amounts of fluoride. See abstract below. There is one solution. Apparently the type of tea, the cultivation manner (i.e. organic tea o regular), and the quality of it do have an impact. See quote from book on the subject. It seems that white organic or oolong organic are good choices, but never drink brick tea. Hope this helps. . _______________________________________________ From a chemist: No discussion about the body's immune system would be complete without an explanation of THE LAW OF HALOGEN DISPLACEMENT. There are five elements that make up what is known as the HALOGEN family of elements. The Halogen Law states that, " The Halogen element having the LOWEST atomic weight will ALWAYS DISPLACE another within the Halogen group whose atomic weight is greater. " Arranged in ascending order, the Halogen family is as follows: Element Symbol Atomic Weight Fluorine F 9 Chlorine Cl 17 Bromine Br 35 Iodine I 53 Asatine At 85 Both Fluorine and Chlorine are sometimes additives to public water supplies. These two toxic elements will ALWAYS displace Iodine, an element that is vitally needed to protect your Thyroid gland. ________________________________________________ http://www3.interscience.wiley.com/journal/105557587/abstract?CRETRY=1 & SRETRY=0 Uptake of fluoride by tea plant (Camellia sinensis L) and the impact of aluminium Abstract Tea plant (Camellia sinensis L) accumulates large amounts of fluoride in mature leaves from soils of normal fluoride availabilities, but the properties of fluoride absorption by this plant species are not well understood. The present study examined the characteristic of fluoride uptake by tea plants and the impact of Al with solution and soil experiments. The results showed that the fluoride taken up by tea plants was largely and readily transported, in particular to the leaves. The fluoride in leaves increased linearly with fluoride concentrations in the uptake solution (R2 = 0.75, P < 0.001) or in the soil (R2 = 0.88, P < 0.001), whereas those in root and stem were only marginally influenced.... ______________________________________________________ The Healing Power of Tea, by D. , Page 36 Fluoride: " The tea plant absorbs fluoride from the soil and from fertilizer, and the mineral accumulates in the leaves over time. The amount of fluoride in brewed tea varies depending on the type of leaf, the brewing time, and the amount of fluoride in the water. in general, high quality tea, which is made from younger leaves, contains less fluoride. That means white tea, which is made from the very youngest, opened leaf buds, is unlikely to have much fluoride at all. Of the more common teas, oolong tea has the least fluoride (0.1 - 0.2 mg per 8 ounces) while black tea has the most (0.2-0.5) mg per 8 ounces. Green tea is in between the two with 0.3-0.4 mg per 8 ounces. Brick tea, a lower grade of tea made from older leaves and stems, has the most fluoride of all (0.5-1.7 per 8 ounces), but it is rarely consumed in the United States. The fluoride content provided above does not include the water in which the tea is brewed. " " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 8, 2010 Report Share Posted July 8, 2010 Good post Tonya! This is one of the reasons I personally drink only organic hand picked teas, and only use organic hand picked teas for my kombucha. (Other reasons are that loose leaf tea is higher in antioxidants, and tastes a whole lot better!) It's the older leaves that have the higher levels fluoride. Loose leaf tea is typically two leaves and a bud -- the newest growth -- and is most usually handpicked. The leaves can be used to make white tea, yellow tea, green tea, black tea or oolong or pu-erh. The difference is in the processing. White tea is steamed and dried quickly. The steaming stops the oxidation. Yellow tea is steamed and dried slowly. The steaming stops the oxidation. Green tea is pan-fried, or rolled and pan-fried or baked to stop further oxidation. Oolongs are bruised and baked to stop further oxidation. Black teas are allowed to fully oxidize before firing. Pu-Erh is green or black tea that is aged after oxidation or firing. This is not the same as brick tea. The issue is not how old the leaf is, but rather how long the leave was on the bush. Even if the tea is coming from trees 100 years old, the fluoride content will not be as great in the newly grown leaves, which is what is typically harvested for higher quality teas. Lower quality teas, such as bagged tea from the grocer, are typically machine harvested. The machine is unable to distinguish between new growth and older leaves, so the bagged tea often contains some older leaves. Organic farming is also not that important to the producers of bagged teas, so higher levels of fluoride may exist in the soil. Brick teas are typically made of lower grade leaves ... this means leaves further down the stem -- 3rd leaf or lower -- or leaves that have been on the plant longer. The leaves are then ground. They absorb more fluoride from the soil (assuming there is high levels of fluoride in the soil.) because they are on the plant longer. Higher levels of fluoride exist in soil that has been fertilized or that have been exposed to pesticides. Organically grown tea plants would not use fertilizers and pesticides that would increase the level of fluoride in the soil, and therefore the fluoride in the tea leaves. Adults can safely intake 3.0-4.0 mg of fluoride per day without great risk of fluorosis or acute toxicity. Fluorosis occurs when an individual has consumed more 10mg. or fluoride per day over an extended period of time. As for toxicity, the lowest dose that could trigger adverse symptoms is considered to be 5 mg/kg of body weight, with the lowest potentially fatal dose considered 15 mg/kg of body weight typically taken in over an extended period of time. Here are some handy fluoride number I hope you'll find useful. Fluoride Content of Teas Type of Tea Fluoride (mg/liter) Fluoride (mg/8 ounces) Green 1.2-1.7 0.3-0.4 Oolong 0.6-1.0 0.1-0.2 Black 1.0-1.9 0.2-0.5 Brick tea 2.2-7.3 0.5-1.7   Food Serving Fluoride (mg) Tea 100 ml (3.5 fluid ounces) 0.1-0.6 Grape juice 100 ml (3.5 fluid ounces) 0.02-0.28 Canned sardines (with bones) 100 g (3.5 ounces) 0.2-0.4 Fish (without bones) 100 g (3.5 ounces) 0.01-0.17 Chicken 100g (3.5 ounces) 0.06-0.10 So while it is always good to b especially cognizant of the foods and beverages you consume, you should feel comfortable drinking tea in moderation. You can always opt for preparing you tea with non-fluoridated water, or alternating between real tea and herbal teas. Tea is far more beneficial than harmful. Hope this helps!  Namaste -- donnalynn, teasmith, SensibiliTeas, 71 Lawrence Street, Glens Falls, NY 12801 (518) 824-1290 (888) 449-9888 www.sensibiliteasonline.com Over 540 teas available. Over 350 organic teas in the collection. 10% discount to OK subscribers when you leave the code KT is OK in the special comments field of the online order form. ________________________________ From: mromargarcia <mromargarcia@...> kombucha tea Sent: Mon, July 5, 2010 9:18:54 AM Subject: Fluoride!  Folks, I am not sure if this is clear to everyone, so just as a matter of warning I send this post. I think that I was affected by it. Humans ingest much more fluoride than desired and it has many detrimental health effects. One of the things it causes is affect the absorption and use of iodine, which is indispensable for good functioning of the thyroid, which is extremely important for the immune system. Read an explanation below. Camelia Sinensis posesses the characteristic of absorbing fluoride from the soil. If the latter is contaminated or if they use fluoride based chemicals as fertilizers or pesticides, then the leaves will have high amounts of fluoride. See abstract below. There is one solution. Apparently the type of tea, the cultivation manner (i.e. organic tea o regular), and the quality of it do have an impact. See quote from book on the subject. It seems that white organic or oolong organic are good choices, but never drink brick tea. Hope this helps. . _______________________________________________ From a chemist: No discussion about the body's immune system would be complete without an explanation of THE LAW OF HALOGEN DISPLACEMENT. There are five elements that make up what is known as the HALOGEN family of elements. The Halogen Law states that, " The Halogen element having the LOWEST atomic weight will ALWAYS DISPLACE another within the Halogen group whose atomic weight is greater. " Arranged in ascending order, the Halogen family is as follows: Element Symbol Atomic Weight Fluorine F 9 Chlorine Cl 17 Bromine Br 35 Iodine I 53 Asatine At 85 Both Fluorine and Chlorine are sometimes additives to public water supplies. These two toxic elements will ALWAYS displace Iodine, an element that is vitally needed to protect your Thyroid gland. ________________________________________________ http://www3.interscience.wiley.com/journal/105557587/abstract?CRETRY=1 & SRETRY=0 Uptake of fluoride by tea plant (Camellia sinensis L) and the impact of aluminium Abstract Tea plant (Camellia sinensis L) accumulates large amounts of fluoride in mature leaves from soils of normal fluoride availabilities, but the properties of fluoride absorption by this plant species are not well understood. The present study examined the characteristic of fluoride uptake by tea plants and the impact of Al with solution and soil experiments. The results showed that the fluoride taken up by tea plants was largely and readily transported, in particular to the leaves. The fluoride in leaves increased linearly with fluoride concentrations in the uptake solution (R2 = 0.75, P < 0.001) or in the soil (R2 = 0.88, P < 0.001), whereas those in root and stem were only marginally influenced.... ______________________________________________________ The Healing Power of Tea, by D. , Page 36 Fluoride: " The tea plant absorbs fluoride from the soil and from fertilizer, and the mineral accumulates in the leaves over time. The amount of fluoride in brewed tea varies depending on the type of leaf, the brewing time, and the amount of fluoride in the water. in general, high quality tea, which is made from younger leaves, contains less fluoride. That means white tea, which is made from the very youngest, opened leaf buds, is unlikely to have much fluoride at all. Of the more common teas, oolong tea has the least fluoride (0.1 - 0.2 mg per 8 ounces) while black tea has the most (0.2-0.5) mg per 8 ounces. Green tea is in between the two with 0.3-0.4 mg per 8 ounces. Brick tea, a lower grade of tea made from older leaves and stems, has the most fluoride of all (0.5-1.7 per 8 ounces), but it is rarely consumed in the United States. The fluoride content provided above does not include the water in which the tea is brewed. " " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 8, 2010 Report Share Posted July 8, 2010 Yes life is good you just have to really see. Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone, powered by CREDO Mobile. Fluoride! > > > > > > > > > Folks, > > > > > > I am not sure if this is clear to everyone, so just as a matter of warning I > > > >send this post. I think that I was affected by it. > > > > > > Humans ingest much more fluoride than desired and it has many detrimental > > >health effects. One of the things it causes is affect the absorption and use > >of > > > > >iodine, which is indispensable for good functioning of the thyroid, which is > > >extremely important for the immune system. Read an explanation below. > > > > > > Camelia Sinensis posesses the characteristic of absorbing fluoride from the > > >soil. If the latter is contaminated or if they use fluoride based chemicals > >as > > > > >fertilizers or pesticides, then the leaves will have high amounts of fluoride. > > > > >See abstract below. > > > > > > There is one solution. Apparently the type of tea, the cultivation manner > > >(i.e. organic tea o regular), and the quality of it do have an impact. See > > >quote from book on the subject. It seems that white organic or oolong organic > > > > >are good choices, but never drink brick tea. > > > > > > Hope this helps. > > > > > > . > > > > > >_______________________________________________ > > > From a chemist: > > > > > > No discussion about the body's immune system would be complete without an > > >explanation of THE LAW OF HALOGEN DISPLACEMENT. There are five elements that > > >make up what is known as the HALOGEN family of elements. The Halogen Law > >states > > > > >that, " The Halogen element having the LOWEST atomic weight will ALWAYS > >DISPLACE > > > > >another within the Halogen group whose atomic weight is greater. " Arranged in > > > >ascending order, the Halogen family is as follows: > > > > > > > > > Element Symbol Atomic Weight > > > Fluorine F 9 Chlorine Cl 17 Bromine Br 35 Iodine I 53 Asatine At 85 > > > > > > Both Fluorine and Chlorine are sometimes additives to public water supplies. > > > >These two toxic elements will ALWAYS displace Iodine, an element that is > >vitally > > > > >needed to protect your Thyroid gland. > > >________________________________________________ > > > > > > > > > http://www3.interscience.wiley.com/journal/105557587/abstract?CRETRY=1 & SRETRY=0 > > > > > > Uptake of fluoride by tea plant (Camellia sinensis L) and the impact of > > >aluminium > > > Abstract > > > Tea plant (Camellia sinensis L) accumulates large amounts of fluoride in > >mature > > > > >leaves from soils of normal fluoride availabilities, but the properties of > > >fluoride absorption by this plant species are not well understood. The present > > > > >study examined the characteristic of fluoride uptake by tea plants and the > > >impact of Al with solution and soil experiments. The results showed that the > > >fluoride taken up by tea plants was largely and readily transported, in > > >particular to the leaves. The fluoride in leaves increased linearly with > > >fluoride concentrations in the uptake solution (R2 = 0.75, P < 0.001) or in > >the > > > > >soil (R2 = 0.88, P < 0.001), whereas those in root and stem were only > >marginally > > > > >influenced.... > > >______________________________________________________ > > > > > > The Healing Power of Tea, by D. , Page 36 > > > > > > Fluoride: > > > " The tea plant absorbs fluoride from the soil and from fertilizer, and the > > >mineral accumulates in the leaves over time. The amount of fluoride in brewed > > > >tea varies depending on the type of leaf, the brewing time, and the amount of > > > >fluoride in the water. in general, high quality tea, which is made from > >younger > > > > >leaves, contains less fluoride. That means white tea, which is made from the > > >very youngest, opened leaf buds, is unlikely to have much fluoride at all. Of > > > >the more common teas, oolong tea has the least fluoride (0.1 - 0.2 mg per 8 > > >ounces) while black tea has the most (0.2-0.5) mg per 8 ounces. Green tea is > >in > > > > >between the two with 0.3-0.4 mg per 8 ounces. Brick tea, a lower grade of tea > > > >made from older leaves and stems, has the most fluoride of all (0.5-1.7 per 8 > > > >ounces), but it is rarely consumed in the United States. The fluoride content > > > >provided above does not include the water in which the tea is brewed. " " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 8, 2010 Report Share Posted July 8, 2010 Lynn..thanks for your exper-teas!!! Organic buds, picked early the Very Best! Luv Jahjet > > Good post Tonya! > > This is one of the reasons I personally drink only organic hand picked teas, and > only use organic hand picked teas for my kombucha. (Other reasons are that loose > leaf tea is higher in antioxidants, and tastes a whole lot better!) > > It's the older leaves that have the higher levels fluoride. > Loose leaf tea is typically two leaves and a bud -- the newest growth -- and is > most usually handpicked. > The leaves can be used to make white tea, yellow tea, green tea, black tea or > oolong > or pu-erh. The difference is in the processing. > White tea is steamed and dried quickly. The steaming stops the oxidation. > Yellow tea is steamed and dried slowly. The steaming stops the oxidation. > Green tea is pan-fried, or rolled and pan-fried or baked to stop further > oxidation. > Oolongs are bruised and baked to stop further oxidation. > Black teas are allowed to fully oxidize before firing. > Pu-Erh is green or black tea that is aged after oxidation or firing. This is not > the same as brick tea. > > The issue is not how old the leaf is, but rather how long the leave was on the > bush. > Even if the tea is coming from trees 100 years old, the fluoride content will > not be as great in the newly grown leaves, which is what is typically harvested > for higher quality teas. > > Lower quality teas, such as bagged tea from the grocer, are typically machine > harvested. The machine is unable to distinguish between new growth and older > leaves, so the bagged tea often contains some older leaves. Organic farming is > also not that important to the producers of bagged teas, so higher levels of > fluoride may exist in the soil. > > Brick teas are typically made of lower grade leaves ... this means leaves > further down the stem -- 3rd leaf or lower -- or leaves that have been on the > plant longer. The leaves are then ground. They absorb more fluoride from the > soil (assuming there is high levels of fluoride in the soil.) because they are > on the plant longer. > > Higher levels of fluoride exist in soil that has been fertilized or that have > been exposed to pesticides. Organically grown tea plants would not use > fertilizers and pesticides that would increase the level of fluoride in the > soil, and therefore the fluoride in the tea leaves. > > Adults can safely intake 3.0-4.0 mg of fluoride per day without great risk of > fluorosis or acute toxicity. Fluorosis occurs when an individual has consumed > more 10mg. or fluoride per day over an extended period of time. As for toxicity, > the lowest dose that could trigger adverse symptoms is considered to be 5 mg/kg > of body weight, with the lowest potentially fatal dose considered 15 mg/kg of > body weight typically taken in over an extended period of time. Here are some > handy fluoride number I hope you'll find useful. > > Fluoride Content of Teas > Type of Tea > Fluoride (mg/liter) Fluoride (mg/8 ounces) > Green 1.2-1.7 0.3-0.4 > Oolong 0.6-1.0 0.1-0.2 > Black 1.0-1.9 0.2-0.5 > Brick tea 2.2-7.3 0.5-1.7 >   > Food Serving Fluoride (mg) > Tea 100 ml (3.5 fluid ounces) 0.1-0.6 > Grape juice 100 ml (3.5 fluid ounces) 0.02-0.28 > Canned sardines (with bones) 100 g (3.5 ounces) 0.2-0.4 > Fish (without bones) 100 g (3.5 ounces) 0.01-0.17 > Chicken 100g (3.5 ounces) 0.06-0.10 > > So while it is always good to b especially cognizant of the foods and beverages > you consume, you should feel comfortable drinking tea in moderation. > You can always opt for preparing you tea with non-fluoridated water, or > alternating between real tea and herbal teas. > > > Tea is far more beneficial than harmful. > > Hope this helps! >  > Namaste -- > donnalynn, teasmith, SensibiliTeas, 71 Lawrence Street, Glens Falls, NY 12801 > (518) 824-1290 (888) 449-9888 www.sensibiliteasonline.com > Over 540 teas available. Over 350 organic teas in the collection. > 10% discount to OK subscribers when you leave the code KT is OK in the special > comments field of the online order form. > > > > > ________________________________ > From: mromargarcia <mromargarcia@...> > kombucha tea > Sent: Mon, July 5, 2010 9:18:54 AM > Subject: Fluoride! > >  > Folks, > > I am not sure if this is clear to everyone, so just as a matter of warning I > send this post. I think that I was affected by it. > > Humans ingest much more fluoride than desired and it has many detrimental health > effects. One of the things it causes is affect the absorption and use of iodine, > which is indispensable for good functioning of the thyroid, which is extremely > important for the immune system. Read an explanation below. > > Camelia Sinensis posesses the characteristic of absorbing fluoride from the > soil. If the latter is contaminated or if they use fluoride based chemicals as > fertilizers or pesticides, then the leaves will have high amounts of fluoride. > See abstract below. > > There is one solution. Apparently the type of tea, the cultivation manner (i.e. > organic tea o regular), and the quality of it do have an impact. See quote from > book on the subject. It seems that white organic or oolong organic are good > choices, but never drink brick tea. > > Hope this helps. > > . > > _______________________________________________ > From a chemist: > > No discussion about the body's immune system would be complete without an > explanation of THE LAW OF HALOGEN DISPLACEMENT. There are five elements that > make up what is known as the HALOGEN family of elements. The Halogen Law states > that, " The Halogen element having the LOWEST atomic weight will ALWAYS DISPLACE > another within the Halogen group whose atomic weight is greater. " Arranged in > ascending order, the Halogen family is as follows: > > > Element Symbol Atomic Weight > Fluorine F 9 Chlorine Cl 17 Bromine Br 35 Iodine I 53 Asatine At 85 > > Both Fluorine and Chlorine are sometimes additives to public water supplies. > These two toxic elements will ALWAYS displace Iodine, an element that is vitally > needed to protect your Thyroid gland. > ________________________________________________ > > http://www3.interscience.wiley.com/journal/105557587/abstract?CRETRY=1 & SRETRY=0 > > Uptake of fluoride by tea plant (Camellia sinensis L) and the impact of > aluminium > Abstract > Tea plant (Camellia sinensis L) accumulates large amounts of fluoride in mature > leaves from soils of normal fluoride availabilities, but the properties of > fluoride absorption by this plant species are not well understood. The present > study examined the characteristic of fluoride uptake by tea plants and the > impact of Al with solution and soil experiments. The results showed that the > fluoride taken up by tea plants was largely and readily transported, in > particular to the leaves. The fluoride in leaves increased linearly with > fluoride concentrations in the uptake solution (R2 = 0.75, P < 0.001) or in the > soil (R2 = 0.88, P < 0.001), whereas those in root and stem were only marginally > influenced.... > ______________________________________________________ > > The Healing Power of Tea, by D. , Page 36 > > Fluoride: > " The tea plant absorbs fluoride from the soil and from fertilizer, and the > mineral accumulates in the leaves over time. The amount of fluoride in brewed > tea varies depending on the type of leaf, the brewing time, and the amount of > fluoride in the water. in general, high quality tea, which is made from younger > leaves, contains less fluoride. That means white tea, which is made from the > very youngest, opened leaf buds, is unlikely to have much fluoride at all. Of > the more common teas, oolong tea has the least fluoride (0.1 - 0.2 mg per 8 > ounces) while black tea has the most (0.2-0.5) mg per 8 ounces. Green tea is in > between the two with 0.3-0.4 mg per 8 ounces. Brick tea, a lower grade of tea > made from older leaves and stems, has the most fluoride of all (0.5-1.7 per 8 > ounces), but it is rarely consumed in the United States. The fluoride content > provided above does not include the water in which the tea is brewed. " " > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 9, 2010 Report Share Posted July 9, 2010 This is awesome information. Thank you. The only thing that I would add is that intake of fluoride below the levels necessary to cause fluorosis over an extended period of time may prevent absorption and use of Iodine by our thyroid, which would lead to a lower immune system. Normally we have months of iodine supply in our bodies, but eventually it may ran out. My suggestion is to stop drinking Kombucha every 3 to 6 months or so for a bit, like a month. This may be why most authors recommend taking a break, e.g. Harald Tietze (Kombucha-Miracle fungus) and Alick Bartholomew (Kombucha Tea for your health and healing). Thank you again for such great info Donnalynn. . > > Good post Tonya! > > This is one of the reasons I personally drink only organic hand picked teas, and > only use organic hand picked teas for my kombucha. (Other reasons are that loose > leaf tea is higher in antioxidants, and tastes a whole lot better!) > > It's the older leaves that have the higher levels fluoride. > Loose leaf tea is typically two leaves and a bud -- the newest growth -- and is > most usually handpicked. > The leaves can be used to make white tea, yellow tea, green tea, black tea or > oolong > or pu-erh. The difference is in the processing. > White tea is steamed and dried quickly. The steaming stops the oxidation. > Yellow tea is steamed and dried slowly. The steaming stops the oxidation. > Green tea is pan-fried, or rolled and pan-fried or baked to stop further > oxidation. > Oolongs are bruised and baked to stop further oxidation. > Black teas are allowed to fully oxidize before firing. > Pu-Erh is green or black tea that is aged after oxidation or firing. This is not > the same as brick tea. > > The issue is not how old the leaf is, but rather how long the leave was on the > bush. > Even if the tea is coming from trees 100 years old, the fluoride content will > not be as great in the newly grown leaves, which is what is typically harvested > for higher quality teas. > > Lower quality teas, such as bagged tea from the grocer, are typically machine > harvested. The machine is unable to distinguish between new growth and older > leaves, so the bagged tea often contains some older leaves. Organic farming is > also not that important to the producers of bagged teas, so higher levels of > fluoride may exist in the soil. > > Brick teas are typically made of lower grade leaves ... this means leaves > further down the stem -- 3rd leaf or lower -- or leaves that have been on the > plant longer. The leaves are then ground. They absorb more fluoride from the > soil (assuming there is high levels of fluoride in the soil.) because they are > on the plant longer. > > Higher levels of fluoride exist in soil that has been fertilized or that have > been exposed to pesticides. Organically grown tea plants would not use > fertilizers and pesticides that would increase the level of fluoride in the > soil, and therefore the fluoride in the tea leaves. > > Adults can safely intake 3.0-4.0 mg of fluoride per day without great risk of > fluorosis or acute toxicity. Fluorosis occurs when an individual has consumed > more 10mg. or fluoride per day over an extended period of time. As for toxicity, > the lowest dose that could trigger adverse symptoms is considered to be 5 mg/kg > of body weight, with the lowest potentially fatal dose considered 15 mg/kg of > body weight typically taken in over an extended period of time. Here are some > handy fluoride number I hope you'll find useful. > > Fluoride Content of Teas > Type of Tea > Fluoride (mg/liter) Fluoride (mg/8 ounces) > Green 1.2-1.7 0.3-0.4 > Oolong 0.6-1.0 0.1-0.2 > Black 1.0-1.9 0.2-0.5 > Brick tea 2.2-7.3 0.5-1.7 >   > Food Serving Fluoride (mg) > Tea 100 ml (3.5 fluid ounces) 0.1-0.6 > Grape juice 100 ml (3.5 fluid ounces) 0.02-0.28 > Canned sardines (with bones) 100 g (3.5 ounces) 0.2-0.4 > Fish (without bones) 100 g (3.5 ounces) 0.01-0.17 > Chicken 100g (3.5 ounces) 0.06-0.10 > > So while it is always good to b especially cognizant of the foods and beverages > you consume, you should feel comfortable drinking tea in moderation. > You can always opt for preparing you tea with non-fluoridated water, or > alternating between real tea and herbal teas. > > > Tea is far more beneficial than harmful. > > Hope this helps! >  > Namaste -- > donnalynn, teasmith, SensibiliTeas, 71 Lawrence Street, Glens Falls, NY 12801 > (518) 824-1290 (888) 449-9888 www.sensibiliteasonline.com > Over 540 teas available. Over 350 organic teas in the collection. > 10% discount to OK subscribers when you leave the code KT is OK in the special > comments field of the online order form. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 9, 2010 Report Share Posted July 9, 2010 Wow, is that how you became interested? I think that it was the other way around with my father. He did not want anything to do with it, first, but then... Tonya, I agree that the internet is very good, especially at shortening distances, but it is the people who ultimately make the decision of with whom to hang out. This has always been the case, so you should give yourself credit for hanging out (via the internet) in places that help you learn. You could be blogging about who DiCaprio met in his latest trip to wherever, right? I believe this is why it is great that the moderators keep doing a great job making sure that we do the right thing. And thinking about it, I have wander off quite a bit. O. > > > > > > thank you for the lesson i so love to learn! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > From: mromargarcia <mromargarcia@> > > > kombucha tea > > > Sent: Mon, July 5, 2010 8:18:54 AM > > > Subject: Fluoride! > > > > > > > > > Folks, > > > > > > I am not sure if this is clear to everyone, so just as a matter of warning I > > > >send this post. I think that I was affected by it. > > > > > > Humans ingest much more fluoride than desired and it has many detrimental > > >health effects. One of the things it causes is affect the absorption and use > >of > > > > >iodine, which is indispensable for good functioning of the thyroid, which is > > >extremely important for the immune system. Read an explanation below. > > > > > > Camelia Sinensis posesses the characteristic of absorbing fluoride from the > > >soil. If the latter is contaminated or if they use fluoride based chemicals > >as > > > > >fertilizers or pesticides, then the leaves will have high amounts of fluoride. > > > > >See abstract below. > > > > > > There is one solution. Apparently the type of tea, the cultivation manner > > >(i.e. organic tea o regular), and the quality of it do have an impact. See > > >quote from book on the subject. It seems that white organic or oolong organic > > > > >are good choices, but never drink brick tea. > > > > > > Hope this helps. > > > > > > . > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > From a chemist: > > > > > > No discussion about the body's immune system would be complete without an > > >explanation of THE LAW OF HALOGEN DISPLACEMENT. There are five elements that > > >make up what is known as the HALOGEN family of elements. The Halogen Law > >states > > > > >that, " The Halogen element having the LOWEST atomic weight will ALWAYS > >DISPLACE > > > > >another within the Halogen group whose atomic weight is greater. " Arranged in > > > >ascending order, the Halogen family is as follows: > > > > > > > > > Element Symbol Atomic Weight > > > Fluorine F 9 Chlorine Cl 17 Bromine Br 35 Iodine I 53 Asatine At 85 > > > > > > Both Fluorine and Chlorine are sometimes additives to public water supplies. > > > >These two toxic elements will ALWAYS displace Iodine, an element that is > >vitally > > > > >needed to protect your Thyroid gland. > > > ________________________________________________ > > > > > > > > > http://www3.interscience.wiley.com/journal/105557587/abstract?CRETRY=1 & SRETRY=0 > > > > > > Uptake of fluoride by tea plant (Camellia sinensis L) and the impact of > > >aluminium > > > Abstract > > > Tea plant (Camellia sinensis L) accumulates large amounts of fluoride in > >mature > > > > >leaves from soils of normal fluoride availabilities, but the properties of > > >fluoride absorption by this plant species are not well understood. The present > > > > >study examined the characteristic of fluoride uptake by tea plants and the > > >impact of Al with solution and soil experiments. The results showed that the > > >fluoride taken up by tea plants was largely and readily transported, in > > >particular to the leaves. The fluoride in leaves increased linearly with > > >fluoride concentrations in the uptake solution (R2 = 0.75, P < 0.001) or in > >the > > > > >soil (R2 = 0.88, P < 0.001), whereas those in root and stem were only > >marginally > > > > >influenced.... > > > ______________________________________________________ > > > > > > The Healing Power of Tea, by D. , Page 36 > > > > > > Fluoride: > > > " The tea plant absorbs fluoride from the soil and from fertilizer, and the > > >mineral accumulates in the leaves over time. The amount of fluoride in brewed > > > >tea varies depending on the type of leaf, the brewing time, and the amount of > > > >fluoride in the water. in general, high quality tea, which is made from > >younger > > > > >leaves, contains less fluoride. That means white tea, which is made from the > > >very youngest, opened leaf buds, is unlikely to have much fluoride at all. Of > > > >the more common teas, oolong tea has the least fluoride (0.1 - 0.2 mg per 8 > > >ounces) while black tea has the most (0.2-0.5) mg per 8 ounces. Green tea is > >in > > > > >between the two with 0.3-0.4 mg per 8 ounces. Brick tea, a lower grade of tea > > > >made from older leaves and stems, has the most fluoride of all (0.5-1.7 per 8 > > > >ounces), but it is rarely consumed in the United States. The fluoride content > > > >provided above does not include the water in which the tea is brewed. " " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 9, 2010 Report Share Posted July 9, 2010 Yes, so right .. i am doing that right now! Decided to give it a short rest. Suffer with all the sufferes with no kombucha , those who were relying on storebought. I am drinking water..plenty of Clean Water! Luv Jahjet > > > > Good post Tonya! > > > > This is one of the reasons I personally drink only organic hand picked teas, and > > only use organic hand picked teas for my kombucha. (Other reasons are that loose > > leaf tea is higher in antioxidants, and tastes a whole lot better!) > > > > It's the older leaves that have the higher levels fluoride. > > Loose leaf tea is typically two leaves and a bud -- the newest growth -- and is > > most usually handpicked. > > The leaves can be used to make white tea, yellow tea, green tea, black tea or > > oolong > > or pu-erh. The difference is in the processing. > > White tea is steamed and dried quickly. The steaming stops the oxidation. > > Yellow tea is steamed and dried slowly. The steaming stops the oxidation. > > Green tea is pan-fried, or rolled and pan-fried or baked to stop further > > oxidation. > > Oolongs are bruised and baked to stop further oxidation. > > Black teas are allowed to fully oxidize before firing. > > Pu-Erh is green or black tea that is aged after oxidation or firing. This is not > > the same as brick tea. > > > > The issue is not how old the leaf is, but rather how long the leave was on the > > bush. > > Even if the tea is coming from trees 100 years old, the fluoride content will > > not be as great in the newly grown leaves, which is what is typically harvested > > for higher quality teas. > > > > Lower quality teas, such as bagged tea from the grocer, are typically machine > > harvested. The machine is unable to distinguish between new growth and older > > leaves, so the bagged tea often contains some older leaves. Organic farming is > > also not that important to the producers of bagged teas, so higher levels of > > fluoride may exist in the soil. > > > > Brick teas are typically made of lower grade leaves ... this means leaves > > further down the stem -- 3rd leaf or lower -- or leaves that have been on the > > plant longer. The leaves are then ground. They absorb more fluoride from the > > soil (assuming there is high levels of fluoride in the soil.) because they are > > on the plant longer. > > > > Higher levels of fluoride exist in soil that has been fertilized or that have > > been exposed to pesticides. Organically grown tea plants would not use > > fertilizers and pesticides that would increase the level of fluoride in the > > soil, and therefore the fluoride in the tea leaves. > > > > Adults can safely intake 3.0-4.0 mg of fluoride per day without great risk of > > fluorosis or acute toxicity. Fluorosis occurs when an individual has consumed > > more 10mg. or fluoride per day over an extended period of time. As for toxicity, > > the lowest dose that could trigger adverse symptoms is considered to be 5 mg/kg > > of body weight, with the lowest potentially fatal dose considered 15 mg/kg of > > body weight typically taken in over an extended period of time. Here are some > > handy fluoride number I hope you'll find useful. > > > > Fluoride Content of Teas > > Type of Tea > > Fluoride (mg/liter) Fluoride (mg/8 ounces) > > Green 1.2-1.7 0.3-0.4 > > Oolong 0.6-1.0 0.1-0.2 > > Black 1.0-1.9 0.2-0.5 > > Brick tea 2.2-7.3 0.5-1.7 > >   > > Food Serving Fluoride (mg) > > Tea 100 ml (3.5 fluid ounces) 0.1-0.6 > > Grape juice 100 ml (3.5 fluid ounces) 0.02-0.28 > > Canned sardines (with bones) 100 g (3.5 ounces) 0.2-0.4 > > Fish (without bones) 100 g (3.5 ounces) 0.01-0.17 > > Chicken 100g (3.5 ounces) 0.06-0.10 > > > > So while it is always good to b especially cognizant of the foods and beverages > > you consume, you should feel comfortable drinking tea in moderation. > > You can always opt for preparing you tea with non-fluoridated water, or > > alternating between real tea and herbal teas. > > > > > > Tea is far more beneficial than harmful. > > > > Hope this helps! > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 9, 2010 Report Share Posted July 9, 2010 Back before I knew to save things from the Internet--because they disappear--I was in a group that was having a big discussion about fluoride in tea. I found a paper by a scientist that said tea plants uptake NATURAL fluoride from the soil and that this was perfectly safe for a person. It's the man-made fluoride waste product that is so poisonous to us. But, I have never found that paper again--so all I can tell you is what I have in my memory. Two different fluorides and the one the plants uptake is safe. Samala, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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