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I pray for your niece and the baby! Keep us informed, please.

Is it true that we need to have our seasonal flu shots without

preservative? Is it the same thing for the pneumonia shot? Please let us know

what

you think!

Thanks,

Nina in Bellevue, 66, PBC stage 2, lots of arthritis, down to 2 mg

prednisone: and I fell October 1st and have two fractures of my pelvis and

fractured the sacrum. Still bedridden but with enough energy at times to

write!

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What are you referring to Pat?

There is the new High Dose flu shot for people over 65 ( or weak immune system)

that is FDA approved for influenza virus subtypes A and type B

Fluzone High-Dose, which has been approved by the Food and Drug Administration

for use in people age 65 and older. The retailer reported that adults over 65

years of age account for 65% of flu-related hospitalizations and 90% of

flu-related deaths. Fluzone High-Dose contains the same components as

regular-strength flu vaccine but provides a superior immune response in people

65 and older.

http://www.fda.gov/BiologicsBloodVaccines/Vaccines/ApprovedProducts/ucm112854.ht\

m

and

http://www.cdc.gov/flu/protect/vaccine/qa_fluzone.htm

then ...

there is a ALL-IN-ONE: Flu shot and H1N1.

~chris

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I thought that the new high dose flu shot was an all in one also, so I guess the question becomes is there any advantage for those of us who are immune compromised in getting the high dose flu shot plus, I guess, the H1N1, or should we just get an all in one, since we don't know how much good the vaccine does? As the high dose vaccine is approved for those over 65 would we even be allowed to get it? Should we be getting more than one dose depending on which way we go as was recommended by some doctors last year?

Thanks!PatOn Sun, Sep 5, 2010 at 12:46 PM, cllcanada <cllcanada@...> wrote:

 

What are you referring to Pat?

There is the new High Dose flu shot for people over 65 ( or weak immune system)

that is FDA approved for influenza virus subtypes A and type B

Fluzone High-Dose, which has been approved by the Food and Drug Administration for use in people age 65 and older. The retailer reported that adults over 65 years of age account for 65% of flu-related hospitalizations and 90% of flu-related deaths. Fluzone High-Dose contains the same components as regular-strength flu vaccine but provides a superior immune response in people 65 and older.

http://www.fda.gov/BiologicsBloodVaccines/Vaccines/ApprovedProducts/ucm112854.htm

and

http://www.cdc.gov/flu/protect/vaccine/qa_fluzone.htm

then ...

there is a ALL-IN-ONE: Flu shot and H1N1.

~chris

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Yup...Fluzone High-Dose is for influenza A ~ H1N1 virus and A ~ H3N2 and

influenza B.

In Canada the shot will be for anyone over 65 AND people with compromised immune

systems. Not certain how they will handle the age thing in the U.S.

How well any vaccine works on any given patient varies widely depending on the

ability of the immune system to make antibodies. My doc recommends two shots,

since he believes that the flu season extends longer into the spring than it did

10 years ago.

Not certain the Tagment thing is being done anymore...never seemed to get much

traction.

HTH

~chris

>

> >

> >

> > What are you referring to Pat?

> >

> > There is the new High Dose flu shot for people over 65 ( or weak immune

> > system)

> > that is FDA approved for influenza virus subtypes A and type B

> >

> > Fluzone High-Dose, which has been approved by the Food and Drug

> > Administration for use in people age 65 and older. The retailer reported

> > that adults over 65 years of age account for 65% of flu-related

> > hospitalizations and 90% of flu-related deaths. Fluzone High-Dose contains

> > the same components as regular-strength flu vaccine but provides a superior

> > immune response in people 65 and older.

> >

> >

> >

http://www.fda.gov/BiologicsBloodVaccines/Vaccines/ApprovedProducts/ucm112854.ht\

m

> > and

> > http://www.cdc.gov/flu/protect/vaccine/qa_fluzone.htm

> >

> > then ...

> >

> > there is a ALL-IN-ONE: Flu shot and H1N1.

> >

> > ~chris

> >

> >

> >

>

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Karine,

We get pneumonia shots every 5 years, but that is separate from the flu shots.

This year, there will be 3 vaccines in 1 shot for the annual flu shot. Some

people in the group are complaining that they got sick for a day and some 3

days. I wrote the original post saying that we had to make a decision about

whether we were going to get the shot. Some people get it and others do not

because of the ingredients like mercury being used. Last year, it was said that

individual shots did not have he mercury, only the large bottles that they

refilled after giving them to a large group, like a school. That is what I

remember from last year. If someone has more recent information they can post

it here and every one can make up their own minds about what is best for them.

This is a personal decision everyone has to make for themselves after speaking

to their doctors.

This is a website with a strong warning about who should get the FLU MIST (

there are people with certain conditions who should definitely not take this, so

read up about this nasal mist vaccine before you take it. You should not get

FluMist if you: are allergic to eggs, gentamicin, gelatin, or arginine; have

ever had a life-threatening reaction to influenza vaccinations; or are 2 through

17 years old and take aspirin or medicines containing aspirin.

http://www.flumist.com/?dbsrc=mi-flum-eng-IPick-nnn-unbrned-insem-nnn & WT.sr\

ch=1 & WT.mc_id=1115

http://www.health.state.ny.us/diseases/communicable/influenza/flumist.htm

______________________________

These are some of the agents that may be in your flu shots and see if you still

want to take a flu shot. I am trying to present both sides for t he pros and

cons.

Ethylene glycol (antifreeze)

* Phenol, also known as carbolic acid (this is used as a disinfectant, dye)

* Formaldehyde, a known cancer-causing agent

* Aluminum, which is associated with Alzheimer's disease and seizures and also

cancer producing in laboratory mice (it is used as an additive to promote

antibody response)

* Thimerosal (a mercury disinfectant/preservative) can result in brain injury

and autoimmune disease

* Neomycin and Streptomycin (used as antibiotics) have caused allergic reaction

in some people.

http://answers./question/index?qid=20081008080922AAhrUij

________________________________

I hope that this answers some of your questions, Karine.

FYI,

Lottie Duthu

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Thanks Lottie!! I'm very impressed on how informative you are!  Im sure

everyone

feels very blessed by receiveing all your knowledge!!

Karine

________________________________

From: Lottie Duthu <lotajam@...>

CML < >

Sent: Sat, September 25, 2010 2:43:57 AM

Subject: [ ] Flu shots

 

Karine,

We get pneumonia shots every 5 years, but that is separate from the flu shots.

This year, there will be 3 vaccines in 1 shot for the annual flu shot. Some

people in the group are complaining that they got sick for a day and some 3

days. I wrote the original post saying that we had to make a decision about

whether we were going to get the shot. Some people get it and others do not

because of the ingredients like mercury being used. Last year, it was said that

individual shots did not have he mercury, only the large bottles that they

refilled after giving them to a large group, like a school. That is what I

remember from last year. If someone has more recent information they can post it

here and every one can make up their own minds about what is best for them. This

is a personal decision everyone has to make for themselves after speaking to

their doctors.

This is a website with a strong warning about who should get the FLU MIST (

there are people with certain conditions who should definitely not take this, so

read up about this nasal mist vaccine before you take it. You should not get

FluMist if you: are allergic to eggs, gentamicin, gelatin, or arginine; have

ever had a life-threatening reaction to influenza vaccinations; or are 2 through

17 years old and take aspirin or medicines containing aspirin.

http://www.flumist.com/?dbsrc=mi-flum-eng-IPick-nnn-unbrned-insem-nnn & WT.sr\

ch=1 & WT.mc_id=1115

http://www.health.state.ny.us/diseases/communicable/influenza/flumist.htm

______________________________

These are some of the agents that may be in your flu shots and see if you still

want to take a flu shot. I am trying to present both sides for t he pros and

cons.

Ethylene glycol (antifreeze)

* Phenol, also known as carbolic acid (this is used as a disinfectant, dye)

* Formaldehyde, a known cancer-causing agent

* Aluminum, which is associated with Alzheimer's disease and seizures and also

cancer producing in laboratory mice (it is used as an additive to promote

antibody response)

* Thimerosal (a mercury disinfectant/preservative) can result in brain injury

and autoimmune disease

* Neomycin and Streptomycin (used as antibiotics) have caused allergic reaction

in some people.

http://answers./question/index?qid=20081008080922AAhrUij

________________________________

I hope that this answers some of your questions, Karine.

FYI,

Lottie Duthu

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  • 1 year later...

Absolutely get the flu shot, just make sure it's not a live

virus. I believe they are not, but I always ask. Might

want to consider a pneumonia shot as well if you haven't had

one in the last 5 years.

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