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In a message dated 9/30/2007 11:22:41 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, julie.stevenson16@... writes:

I guess I just wondered if anyone else here found themselves being able to relate to any aspects of the article?

Many of us seem to have a lot going on at the moment.

Yes, a lot in this article struck home. It was articles like this and other first hand accounts that helped me to see that I wasn't alone with all the weird things I had been experiencing all of my life. It really helped seeing that other people had the same problems and I found some of their coping strategies helpful.

The bit you quoted about the picture applies to me. I can usually tell if something has been moved in my room or elsewhere. I tend also to notice little changes with people's clothing and such too.

This is also the reason for one of my favorite little tricks. Sometimes, I will switch two inconsequential items on someone's desk. Never anything as obvious as pictures or decorations mind you, that would probably be noticed. I mean that I will switch the red and blue pens in the pen holder, or reverse the orientation of the stapler. Little things like that. Most of the time people don't even notice. I don't do that often mind you, just now and then.

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In a message dated 9/30/2007 11:22:41 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, julie.stevenson16@... writes:

I guess I just wondered if anyone else here found themselves being able to relate to any aspects of the article?

Many of us seem to have a lot going on at the moment.

Yes, a lot in this article struck home. It was articles like this and other first hand accounts that helped me to see that I wasn't alone with all the weird things I had been experiencing all of my life. It really helped seeing that other people had the same problems and I found some of their coping strategies helpful.

The bit you quoted about the picture applies to me. I can usually tell if something has been moved in my room or elsewhere. I tend also to notice little changes with people's clothing and such too.

This is also the reason for one of my favorite little tricks. Sometimes, I will switch two inconsequential items on someone's desk. Never anything as obvious as pictures or decorations mind you, that would probably be noticed. I mean that I will switch the red and blue pens in the pen holder, or reverse the orientation of the stapler. Little things like that. Most of the time people don't even notice. I don't do that often mind you, just now and then.

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I found the below article (all it's parts) very interesting.

There was so much I found myself thinking I could comment on, however

feeling rather overwhelmed recently and when so I find my cognition

goes down and I find finding words to express myself more difficult.

I found myself being able to relate a lot to what this person wrote,

but sometimes it was familiar, but for different reasons - hard to

explain at the moment. It is like on the sensory issues, I have a lot

of sensory issues - tactile sensitive etc, however not necesarily for

the same reasons as described in the article.

I guess I just wondered if anyone else here found themselves being able

to relate to any aspects of the article?

>

> But if a picture is hanging crookedly, it might start being processed

along

> the same pathways to the same checkpoints, but then it might suddenly

stop at

> some checkpoint because something is not the same as before so some

> checkpoint made a different decision about the information.

(SNIP)

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> In a message dated 9/30/2007 11:22:41 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,

> julie.stevenson16@... writes:

>

> I guess I just wondered if anyone else here found themselves being

able

> to relate to any aspects of the article?

>

>

>

I

> will switch two inconsequential items on someone's desk. Never

anything as

> obvious as pictures or decorations mind you, that would probably be

noticed. I

> mean that I will switch the red and blue pens in the pen holder, or

reverse the

> orientation of the stapler. Little things like that. Most of the

time people

> don't even notice. I don't do that often mind you, just now and

then.

>

>

>

I too will notice if things have been moved and have booby trapped my

things in that way. i know if they have been moved. but it also

causes trouble. If i lose something I am frantic and will look is

severl possible spots. I notice things. Sometimes all I have to do

is look at someones things to know about them (usually I am correct)

In the negative, if i go the wrong way to a place I will go the wrong

way 2 or 3 more times until I find the route back. my confusion will

persist through several cycles. bummer

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" Many of us seem to have a lot going on at the moment. "

I wanted to issue a belated thanks particularly to for taking

care of things the past few days while Raven and I have been busy.

She has been traveling extensively and working on MIC, and I have

been working on MIC also.

In the meantime, has been posting lots of interesting and

useful articles and dealing with a member issue.

I may not have time to go back and read all of the articles that were

posted, but I skimmed them, and for the most part, they were very

very good, and good choices to post.

said to :

" The bit you quoted about the picture applies to me. I can usually

tell if something has been moved in my room or elsewhere. I tend also

to notice little changes with people's clothing and such too. "

Me too.

Tom

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In a message dated 9/30/2007 3:37:56 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, no_reply writes:

I wanted to issue a belated thanks particularly to for taking care of things the past few days while Raven and I have been busy.She has been traveling extensively and working on MIC, and I have been working on MIC also. In the meantime, has been posting lots of interesting and useful articles and dealing with a member issue. I may not have time to go back and read all of the articles that were posted, but I skimmed them, and for the most part, they were very very good, and good choices to post.

Thanks and you're welcome.

I can't claim full credit for the articles. They were posted on another website where I am also a moderator by a member there. I just reposted them here.

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In a message dated 9/30/2007 3:37:56 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, no_reply writes:

I wanted to issue a belated thanks particularly to for taking care of things the past few days while Raven and I have been busy.She has been traveling extensively and working on MIC, and I have been working on MIC also. In the meantime, has been posting lots of interesting and useful articles and dealing with a member issue. I may not have time to go back and read all of the articles that were posted, but I skimmed them, and for the most part, they were very very good, and good choices to post.

Thanks and you're welcome.

I can't claim full credit for the articles. They were posted on another website where I am also a moderator by a member there. I just reposted them here.

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In a message dated 10/2/2007 6:17:52 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, julie.stevenson16@... writes:

That would seriously drive me nuts. I tend to notice little changes around my house, things moved just slightly - it kind of makes me feel on edge.The way I have things arranged, (even if at times it may appear chaos to others) have very good reason behind such for me personally.It really does make me mad when my mum comes into my house and can't resist touching things, moving them, not putting things back where she found them. She can't understand why it gets to me so much; but later when she has gone and I am spending ages looking for something when it isn't where it should be and even if I ask her where she has put it she doesn't always remember, is no fun :-( I also know that she wouldn't do this in other people's houses, but for some reason the fact I am her daughter seems to compel her to do this in my house!

I wouldn't do that to someone that it would really bother. Like I said, most people don't even notice.

Your comment about you mother is amusing. My mother is like that, she will mess with my things sometimes and I can always tell. Of course, she never admits it, even if I find my good pen by her chair in the other room.

On the other hand, she goes wild when our cousin comes by and messes with her things. We've had her over many times to help clean up around the house. Her style of organization is different from my mother's and they often have tension. What is really funny is if they go to the grocery together and watching them move things around in the shopping cart to suit themselves. Really childish but funny.

"As applying to real life it is often easy to see where things are heading in certain situations due to the accumulation of little changes, but try point out such to some and I often hear things like 'you worry too much', 'that won't happen' - sadly it often does happen :-( and then I hear 'how could this happen?!' Mmmmmmm."

An astute observation. Little things do have a way of building up unnoticed. There is a Zulu Proverb about problems being like a hopping toad. No one notices is at the door, or when it hops inside. They only notice it when it is finally sitting in the middle of the room.

History is like that. Lots of little things that build up over time until it reaches a critical mass and sometimes major happens. I fear that we are on such a cycle now and nearing the tipping point on many matters.

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In a message dated 10/2/2007 6:17:52 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, julie.stevenson16@... writes:

That would seriously drive me nuts. I tend to notice little changes around my house, things moved just slightly - it kind of makes me feel on edge.The way I have things arranged, (even if at times it may appear chaos to others) have very good reason behind such for me personally.It really does make me mad when my mum comes into my house and can't resist touching things, moving them, not putting things back where she found them. She can't understand why it gets to me so much; but later when she has gone and I am spending ages looking for something when it isn't where it should be and even if I ask her where she has put it she doesn't always remember, is no fun :-( I also know that she wouldn't do this in other people's houses, but for some reason the fact I am her daughter seems to compel her to do this in my house!

I wouldn't do that to someone that it would really bother. Like I said, most people don't even notice.

Your comment about you mother is amusing. My mother is like that, she will mess with my things sometimes and I can always tell. Of course, she never admits it, even if I find my good pen by her chair in the other room.

On the other hand, she goes wild when our cousin comes by and messes with her things. We've had her over many times to help clean up around the house. Her style of organization is different from my mother's and they often have tension. What is really funny is if they go to the grocery together and watching them move things around in the shopping cart to suit themselves. Really childish but funny.

"As applying to real life it is often easy to see where things are heading in certain situations due to the accumulation of little changes, but try point out such to some and I often hear things like 'you worry too much', 'that won't happen' - sadly it often does happen :-( and then I hear 'how could this happen?!' Mmmmmmm."

An astute observation. Little things do have a way of building up unnoticed. There is a Zulu Proverb about problems being like a hopping toad. No one notices is at the door, or when it hops inside. They only notice it when it is finally sitting in the middle of the room.

History is like that. Lots of little things that build up over time until it reaches a critical mass and sometimes major happens. I fear that we are on such a cycle now and nearing the tipping point on many matters.

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" This is also the reason for one of my favorite little tricks.

Sometimes, I will switch two inconsequential items on someone's desk.

Never anything as obvious as pictures or decorations mind you, that

would probably be noticed. I mean that I will switch the red and blue

pens in the pen holder, or reverse the orientation of the stapler.

Little things like that. Most of the time people don't even notice. I

don't do that often mind you, just now and then. "

That would seriously drive me nuts. I tend to notice little changes

around my house, things moved just slightly - it kind of makes me

feel on edge.

The way I have things arranged, (even if at times it may appear chaos

to others) have very good reason behind such for me personally.

It really does make me mad when my mum comes into my house and can't

resist touching things, moving them, not putting things back where

she found them. She can't understand why it gets to me so much; but

later when she has gone and I am spending ages looking for something

when it isn't where it should be and even if I ask her where she has

put it she doesn't always remember, is no fun :-( I also know that

she wouldn't do this in other people's houses, but for some reason

the fact I am her daughter seems to compel her to do this in my house!

I do agree that not many would notice little changes though, as many

people are quite oblivous to small changes.

Mmmmmmm almost going off on a tangent a bit, but also a possible

explanation of how many people often have that feeling of 'waking up'

and wondering how they got in a certain posistion in life etc, I

suspect maybe they didn't notice all the little subtle changes that

led them there.

As applying to real life it is often easy to see where things are

heading in certain situations due to the accumulation of little

changes, but try point out such to some and I often hear things

like 'you worry too much', 'that won't happen' - sadly it often does

happen :-( and then I hear 'how could this happen?!' Mmmmmmm.

>

> In a message dated 9/30/2007 11:22:41 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,

> julie.stevenson16@... writes:

>

> I guess I just wondered if anyone else here found themselves being

able

> to relate to any aspects of the article?

>

>

>

> Many of us seem to have a lot going on at the moment.

>

> Yes, a lot in this article struck home. It was articles like this

and other

> first hand accounts that helped me to see that I wasn't alone with

all the

> weird things I had been experiencing all of my life. It really

helped seeing

> that other people had the same problems and I found some of their

coping

> strategies helpful.

>

> The bit you quoted about the picture applies to me. I can usually

tell if

> something has been moved in my room or elsewhere. I tend also to

notice little

> changes with people's clothing and such too.

>

> This is also the reason for one of my favorite little tricks.

Sometimes, I

> will switch two inconsequential items on someone's desk. Never

anything as

> obvious as pictures or decorations mind you, that would probably be

noticed. I

> mean that I will switch the red and blue pens in the pen holder, or

reverse the

> orientation of the stapler. Little things like that. Most of the

time people

> don't even notice. I don't do that often mind you, just now and

then.

>

>

>

>

>

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> It really does make me mad when my mum comes into my house and can't

> resist touching things, moving them, not putting things back where

> she found them. She can't understand why it gets to me so much; but

> later when she has gone and I am spending ages looking for something

> when it isn't where it should be and even if I ask her where she has

> put it she doesn't always remember, is no fun :-( I also know that

> she wouldn't do this in other people's houses, but for some reason

> the fact I am her daughter seems to compel her to do this in my house!

Have you ever watched Law and Order Criminal Intent? Detective Goren

uses this tactic of touching people's things to mess with suspects and

make them nervous. In a few episodes they have had people following him

around fixing everything he's messed up.

It's interesting to watch... I love the show for it's psychological

angles like that.

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(SNIP) " Have you ever watched Law and Order Criminal Intent? Detective

Goren uses this tactic of touching people's things to mess with

suspects and make them nervous. In a few episodes they have had people

following him around fixing everything he's messed up.

It's interesting to watch... I love the show for it's psychological

angles like that. "

No I haven't seen it, but it would make me not only nervous, but mad

and I suspect I would say something to anyone doing such as that. If

someone asks if they can look at something, borrow, etc and wait for my

reply I do not mind as much.

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I also get very annoyed when people go around touching or moving things. Touching things is usually an indication they're about to move them. On occasions I've told people that I'm a hypochondriac and obsess over germs so don't go around touching things! (I am a little bit that way, but no where near clinical. But I always have pencils on hand in case someone asks to borrow my pen. Pencils are inexpensive so I just ~give~ them the pencil, even though some have the rudeness to act like I'm offending them somehow. ) Maybe next time I'll say that I'm like that tv character in the show "Monk". Heph greebohere <julie.stevenson16@...> wrote: (SNIP)"Have you ever watched Law and Order Criminal Intent? Detective Goren uses this tactic of touching people's things to mess with suspects and make them nervous. In a few episodes they have had people following him around fixing everything he's messed up.It's interesting to watch... I love the show for it's psychologicalangles like that."No I haven't seen it, but it would make me not only nervous, but mad and I suspect I would say something to anyone doing such as that. If someone asks if they can look at something, borrow, etc

and wait for my reply I do not mind as much.

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