Re: Andy Cutler Chelation Update - to help newcomers

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Did they why?

Mandi x

In a message dated 14/09/2010 11:34:27 GMT Daylight Time, fabienne.serna@... writes:

I have been by our doc that we have to hold off with chelation

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We are seeing really good gains and is 13, started just before his 12th birthday.

In some ways I wish I had started sooner but then again we are getting absolutley no yeast flare ups, he is strong and coping well, he was a complete mess in his younger days and would not have coped with chelation I am sure, there was no room for any more problems with his gut, just my tuppence worth.

Vicky

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We are seeing really good gains and is 13, started just before his 12th birthday.

In some ways I wish I had started sooner but then again we are getting absolutley no yeast flare ups, he is strong and coping well, he was a complete mess in his younger days and would not have coped with chelation I am sure, there was no room for any more problems with his gut, just my tuppence worth.

Vicky

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Kirsty

you have just made me cry again, so lovely to hear kids progressing so well.

For all the newbies:- I was so nervous about starting chelation and it took me about six months to start because of this fact, now we are on round 24 and Harry is making nice steady gains, lots more vocalisation, so anyone who is at the stage of wanting to start, don't be nervous Andy Cutlers protocol (1/8mg - 1/2mg per pound of body weight) is safe because like Kirsty said it is low dose chelation. Harry weighed 35lbs when we started so i gave him 5mg of DMSA every 3 hours in day and 4 hourly at night starting 4pm on a Friday after school to the following Monday 8am before school, i did 6 weeks of DMSA alone, then added in ALA (at 5mg also). Harry has been doing so well that i have been able to slightly increase both the DMSA & ALA but seeing as his weight has increased to he is probably still on the same dose.

My only disapointment was not starting sooner.

xx

Autism Treatment From: greenkirsty1@...Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2010 09:56:19 +0000Subject: Andy Cutler Chelation Update - to help newcomers

Dear all,I find i am normally just posting questions on here but i wanted to give an update on my son Sam since he has started Andy Cutler Chelation. We are currently on round 19 and Sam is on 10mg ALA and 5mg of DMSA for 72 hour rounds.Sam's language is what we are seeing the most gains in. His language is so much more normal if this makes sense. We have small normal conversations. He makes comments to me now all the time that a typical boy would make like "don't do that, its annoying" "leave my toys, stop clearing up, it makes me angry" His expressive language is what is rocketing. Sometimes abit too much!! I constantly get told i am fired, is very defiant etc etc....but from what he has come gained in speech from what he had....is amazing. He only started talking when he was 5.Also his behaviour is alot more normal, the aggression has gone right down. Sam was 8 last month and we had a birthday party for him and so many people commented on how he was so relaxed and how he understood everything and they all had conversations with him.I showed him last week the presentation i was going to do at the TA conference and he told me he didn't like the video (an early one of him screaming and upset, basically how he communicated with us 24/7 in the days before we started working with him). He liked all the recent stuff on it though. When i came through the door sunday evening after driving home from the conference, he told me he had missed me, he loved me and that daddy is fired! I'll leave you with a little moment that has made the last few rounds worth it. On Sam's birthday when i tucked him in, he turned to me and said "mum, it was the best birthday ever"Hopefully this will encourage newcomers to look into the safe, low dosing of Andy Cutler. I really believe it is having these huge affects on him.Kirstyxx

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Hi Ladies - you both seem to be doing so well and so pleased for you.  Realised on Sunday I have so much more to do with Jack and did sign up on the AC group but to be honest couldnt make head nor tail of it!!  I need some time to go through it properly - is there an idiot proof guide to starting out?  Have to admit bit scared to start it but know it needs to be done as I am still waiting for 'the thing' that works for Jack.  Been on Cytoflora and LL for a month and haven't seen the great gains that other parents have seen and Jack's speech is his main problem other than his constant chewing of plastic objects - any ideas on that anyone????  His Atec score is at 80 at present but was over 100 on the last one so I know biomed is working!! Marina x

 

 

On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 11:12 AM, michelle lacey <michelle0471@...> wrote:

 

Kirsty you have just made me cry again, so lovely to hear kids progressing so well.  For all the newbies:-  I was so nervous about starting chelation and it took me about six months to start because of this fact, now we are on round 24 and Harry is making nice steady gains, lots more vocalisation, so anyone who is at the stage of wanting to start, don't be nervous Andy Cutlers protocol (1/8mg - 1/2mg per pound of body weight) is safe because like Kirsty said it is low dose chelation. Harry weighed 35lbs when we started so i gave him 5mg of DMSA every 3 hours in day and 4 hourly at night starting 4pm on a Friday after school to the following Monday 8am before school, i did 6 weeks of DMSA alone, then added in ALA (at 5mg also). Harry has been doing so well that i have been able to slightly increase both the DMSA & ALA but seeing as his weight has increased to he is probably still on the same dose.

 My only disapointment was not starting sooner.  xx 

Autism Treatment From: greenkirsty1@...Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2010 09:56:19 +0000

Subject: Andy Cutler Chelation Update - to help newcomers  

Dear all,I find i am normally just posting questions on here but i wanted to give an update on my son Sam since he has started Andy Cutler Chelation. We are currently on round 19 and Sam is on 10mg ALA and 5mg of DMSA for 72 hour rounds.

Sam's language is what we are seeing the most gains in. His language is so much more normal if this makes sense. We have small normal conversations. He makes comments to me now all the time that a typical boy would make like " don't do that, its annoying " " leave my toys, stop clearing up, it makes me angry " His expressive language is what is rocketing. Sometimes abit too much!! I constantly get told i am fired, is very defiant etc etc....but from what he has come gained in speech from what he had....is amazing. He only started talking when he was 5.

Also his behaviour is alot more normal, the aggression has gone right down. Sam was 8 last month and we had a birthday party for him and so many people commented on how he was so relaxed and how he understood everything and they all had conversations with him.

I showed him last week the presentation i was going to do at the TA conference and he told me he didn't like the video (an early one of him screaming and upset, basically how he communicated with us 24/7 in the days before we started working with him). He liked all the recent stuff on it though. When i came through the door sunday evening after driving home from the conference, he told me he had missed me, he loved me and that daddy is fired!

I'll leave you with a little moment that has made the last few rounds worth it. On Sam's birthday when i tucked him in, he turned to me and said " mum, it was the best birthday ever " Hopefully this will encourage newcomers to look into the safe, low dosing of Andy Cutler. I really believe it is having these huge affects on him.

Kirstyxx

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Marina

Hemisphere in Surrey helped my friend some with the chewing problem, we are seeing them too with Harry, they deal with primitive reflexes etc, this is there website:-

http://www.hemispheres.org.uk/

If you need any help with chelation i am more than happy to help you, email me direct and i will tell you all i know.

xxx

Autism Treatment From: marinavrahimi@...Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2010 11:26:44 +0100Subject: Re: Andy Cutler Chelation Update - to help newcomers

Hi Ladies - you both seem to be doing so well and so pleased for you. Realised on Sunday I have so much more to do with Jack and did sign up on the AC group but to be honest couldnt make head nor tail of it!! I need some time to go through it properly - is there an idiot proof guide to starting out? Have to admit bit scared to start it but know it needs to be done as I am still waiting for 'the thing' that works for Jack. Been on Cytoflora and LL for a month and haven't seen the great gains that other parents have seen and Jack's speech is his main problem other than his constant chewing of plastic objects - any ideas on that anyone???? His Atec score is at 80 at present but was over 100 on the last one so I know biomed is working!! Marina x

On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 11:12 AM, michelle lacey <michelle0471@...> wrote:

Kirsty you have just made me cry again, so lovely to hear kids progressing so well. For all the newbies:- I was so nervous about starting chelation and it took me about six months to start because of this fact, now we are on round 24 and Harry is making nice steady gains, lots more vocalisation, so anyone who is at the stage of wanting to start, don't be nervous Andy Cutlers protocol (1/8mg - 1/2mg per pound of body weight) is safe because like Kirsty said it is low dose chelation. Harry weighed 35lbs when we started so i gave him 5mg of DMSA every 3 hours in day and 4 hourly at night starting 4pm on a Friday after school to the following Monday 8am before school, i did 6 weeks of DMSA alone, then added in ALA (at 5mg also). Harry has been doing so well that i have been able to slightly increase both the DMSA & ALA but seeing as his weight has increased to he is probably still on the same dose. My only disapointment was not starting sooner. xx

Autism Treatment From: greenkirsty1@...Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2010 09:56:19 +0000Subject: Andy Cutler Chelation Update - to help newcomers

Dear all,I find i am normally just posting questions on here but i wanted to give an update on my son Sam since he has started Andy Cutler Chelation. We are currently on round 19 and Sam is on 10mg ALA and 5mg of DMSA for 72 hour rounds.Sam's language is what we are seeing the most gains in. His language is so much more normal if this makes sense. We have small normal conversations. He makes comments to me now all the time that a typical boy would make like "don't do that, its annoying" "leave my toys, stop clearing up, it makes me angry" His expressive language is what is rocketing. Sometimes abit too much!! I constantly get told i am fired, is very defiant etc etc....but from what he has come gained in speech from what he had....is amazing. He only started talking when he was 5.Also his behaviour is alot more normal, the aggression has gone right down. Sam was 8 last month and we had a birthday party for him and so many people commented on how he was so relaxed and how he understood everything and they all had conversations with him.I showed him last week the presentation i was going to do at the TA conference and he told me he didn't like the video (an early one of him screaming and upset, basically how he communicated with us 24/7 in the days before we started working with him). He liked all the recent stuff on it though. When i came through the door sunday evening after driving home from the conference, he told me he had missed me, he loved me and that daddy is fired! I'll leave you with a little moment that has made the last few rounds worth it. On Sam's birthday when i tucked him in, he turned to me and said "mum, it was the best birthday ever"Hopefully this will encourage newcomers to look into the safe, low dosing of Andy Cutler. I really believe it is having these huge affects on him.Kirstyxx

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If you join the forum recoveryfromautism, they have Documents you can download

in the file section that are extremley easy to read. Especially the one called

" How to chelate children safely "

They also have the tables of the vitamins and supplements they need to be on

before you start and how to dose and schedules.

Kirsty

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> Kirsty

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> you have just made me cry again, so lovely to hear kids progressing so well.

>

> For all the newbies:- I was so nervous about starting chelation and it took

me about six months to start because of this fact, now we are on round 24 and

Harry is making nice steady gains, lots more vocalisation, so anyone who is at

the stage of wanting to start, don't be nervous Andy Cutlers protocol (1/8mg -

1/2mg per pound of body weight) is safe because like Kirsty said it is low dose

chelation. Harry weighed 35lbs when we started so i gave him 5mg of DMSA every 3

hours in day and 4 hourly at night starting 4pm on a Friday after school to the

following Monday 8am before school, i did 6 weeks of DMSA alone, then added in

ALA (at 5mg also). Harry has been doing so well that i have been able to

slightly increase both the DMSA & ALA but seeing as his weight has increased to

he is probably still on the same dose.

>

> My only disapointment was not starting sooner.

>

> xx

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> Autism Treatment

> From: greenkirsty1@...

> Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2010 09:56:19 +0000

> Subject: Andy Cutler Chelation Update - to help

newcomers

>

>

>

>

>

> Dear all,

> I find i am normally just posting questions on here but i wanted to give an

update on my son Sam since he has started Andy Cutler Chelation. We are

currently on round 19 and Sam is on 10mg ALA and 5mg of DMSA for 72 hour rounds.

>

> Sam's language is what we are seeing the most gains in. His language is so

much more normal if this makes sense. We have small normal conversations. He

makes comments to me now all the time that a typical boy would make like " don't

do that, its annoying " " leave my toys, stop clearing up, it makes me angry " His

expressive language is what is rocketing. Sometimes abit too much!! I constantly

get told i am fired, is very defiant etc etc....but from what he has come gained

in speech from what he had....is amazing. He only started talking when he was 5.

>

> Also his behaviour is alot more normal, the aggression has gone right down.

Sam was 8 last month and we had a birthday party for him and so many people

commented on how he was so relaxed and how he understood everything and they all

had conversations with him.

>

> I showed him last week the presentation i was going to do at the TA conference

and he told me he didn't like the video (an early one of him screaming and

upset, basically how he communicated with us 24/7 in the days before we started

working with him). He liked all the recent stuff on it though. When i came

through the door sunday evening after driving home from the conference, he told

me he had missed me, he loved me and that daddy is fired!

>

> I'll leave you with a little moment that has made the last few rounds worth

it. On Sam's birthday when i tucked him in, he turned to me and said " mum, it

was the best birthday ever "

> Hopefully this will encourage newcomers to look into the safe, low dosing of

Andy Cutler. I really believe it is having these huge affects on him.

>

> Kirsty

> xx

>

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Thanks! I have been by our doc that we have to hold off with chelation, but I cannot wait to start.FabienneOn 14.09.2010, at 11:56, "greenkirsty1" <greenkirsty1@...> wrote:

Dear all,

I find i am normally just posting questions on here but i wanted to give an update on my son Sam since he has started Andy Cutler Chelation. We are currently on round 19 and Sam is on 10mg ALA and 5mg of DMSA for 72 hour rounds.

Sam's language is what we are seeing the most gains in. His language is so much more normal if this makes sense. We have small normal conversations. He makes comments to me now all the time that a typical boy would make like "don't do that, its annoying" "leave my toys, stop clearing up, it makes me angry" His expressive language is what is rocketing. Sometimes abit too much!! I constantly get told i am fired, is very defiant etc etc....but from what he has come gained in speech from what he had....is amazing. He only started talking when he was 5.

Also his behaviour is alot more normal, the aggression has gone right down. Sam was 8 last month and we had a birthday party for him and so many people commented on how he was so relaxed and how he understood everything and they all had conversations with him.

I showed him last week the presentation i was going to do at the TA conference and he told me he didn't like the video (an early one of him screaming and upset, basically how he communicated with us 24/7 in the days before we started working with him). He liked all the recent stuff on it though. When i came through the door sunday evening after driving home from the conference, he told me he had missed me, he loved me and that daddy is fired!

I'll leave you with a little moment that has made the last few rounds worth it. On Sam's birthday when i tucked him in, he turned to me and said "mum, it was the best birthday ever"

Hopefully this will encourage newcomers to look into the safe, low dosing of Andy Cutler. I really believe it is having these huge affects on him.

Kirsty

xx

[Guest guest]

Hi Kirsty - thanks for that info will be helpful to see it in an easy format!

Cant wait to get started.

- thanks for the hemisphere link as I know that Jack does actually

digest some of the plastic he is chewing as I see it come out the other end!! It

is a real obsession with him and he has to have one in each hand, this morning

he rooted through the kitchen drawer and found two Nurofen syringes and started

chewing on them, when he is chewing them he is banging them together!!! The

banging doesnt bother me but chewing and eating them really does. Marina xx

>

>

>

>

>

>

> Kirsty

>

> you have just made me cry again, so lovely to hear kids progressing so well.

>

> For all the newbies:- I was so nervous about starting chelation and it took

me about six months to start because of this fact, now we are on round 24 and

Harry is making nice steady gains, lots more vocalisation, so anyone who is at

the stage of wanting to start, don't be nervous Andy Cutlers protocol (1/8mg -

1/2mg per pound of body weight) is safe because like Kirsty said it is low dose

chelation. Harry weighed 35lbs when we started so i gave him 5mg of DMSA every 3

hours in day and 4 hourly at night starting 4pm on a Friday after school to the

following Monday 8am before school, i did 6 weeks of DMSA alone, then added in

ALA (at 5mg also). Harry has been doing so well that i have been able to

slightly increase both the DMSA & ALA but seeing as his weight has increased to

he is probably still on the same dose.

>

> My only disapointment was not starting sooner.

>

> xx

>

>

>

> Autism Treatment

> From: greenkirsty1@...

> Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2010 09:56:19 +0000

> Subject: Andy Cutler Chelation Update - to help

newcomers

>

>

>

>

>

> Dear all,

> I find i am normally just posting questions on here but i wanted to give an

update on my son Sam since he has started Andy Cutler Chelation. We are

currently on round 19 and Sam is on 10mg ALA and 5mg of DMSA for 72 hour rounds.

>

> Sam's language is what we are seeing the most gains in. His language is so

much more normal if this makes sense. We have small normal conversations. He

makes comments to me now all the time that a typical boy would make like " don't

do that, its annoying " " leave my toys, stop clearing up, it makes me angry " His

expressive language is what is rocketing. Sometimes abit too much!! I constantly

get told i am fired, is very defiant etc etc....but from what he has come gained

in speech from what he had....is amazing. He only started talking when he was 5.

>

> Also his behaviour is alot more normal, the aggression has gone right down.

Sam was 8 last month and we had a birthday party for him and so many people

commented on how he was so relaxed and how he understood everything and they all

had conversations with him.

>

> I showed him last week the presentation i was going to do at the TA conference

and he told me he didn't like the video (an early one of him screaming and

upset, basically how he communicated with us 24/7 in the days before we started

working with him). He liked all the recent stuff on it though. When i came

through the door sunday evening after driving home from the conference, he told

me he had missed me, he loved me and that daddy is fired!

>

> I'll leave you with a little moment that has made the last few rounds worth

it. On Sam's birthday when i tucked him in, he turned to me and said " mum, it

was the best birthday ever "

> Hopefully this will encourage newcomers to look into the safe, low dosing of

Andy Cutler. I really believe it is having these huge affects on him.

>

> Kirsty

> xx

>

[Guest guest]

Hi MarinaThe constant chewing might be parasites or low zinc. I would try a parasite cleanse first (there is a file on the recoveryfromautism group about products and timings), I used a clove, black walnut and wormwood product from Nature's Answer which worked well here. You need to start four days before the full moon which is Sunday 19th. If that doesn't fix it I would increase his zinc slowly. Sometimes different forms of zinc work better than others but you just have to keep trying them to see.Autism Treatment From: marinavrahimi@...Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2010 10:48:53 +0000Subject: Re: Andy Cutler Chelation Update - to help newcomers

Hi Kirsty - thanks for that info will be helpful to see it in an easy format! Cant wait to get started.

- thanks for the hemisphere link as I know that Jack does actually digest some of the plastic he is chewing as I see it come out the other end!! It is a real obsession with him and he has to have one in each hand, this morning he rooted through the kitchen drawer and found two Nurofen syringes and started chewing on them, when he is chewing them he is banging them together!!! The banging doesnt bother me but chewing and eating them really does. Marina xx

>

>

>

>

>

>

> Kirsty

>

> you have just made me cry again, so lovely to hear kids progressing so well.

>

> For all the newbies:- I was so nervous about starting chelation and it took me about six months to start because of this fact, now we are on round 24 and Harry is making nice steady gains, lots more vocalisation, so anyone who is at the stage of wanting to start, don't be nervous Andy Cutlers protocol (1/8mg - 1/2mg per pound of body weight) is safe because like Kirsty said it is low dose chelation. Harry weighed 35lbs when we started so i gave him 5mg of DMSA every 3 hours in day and 4 hourly at night starting 4pm on a Friday after school to the following Monday 8am before school, i did 6 weeks of DMSA alone, then added in ALA (at 5mg also). Harry has been doing so well that i have been able to slightly increase both the DMSA & ALA but seeing as his weight has increased to he is probably still on the same dose.

>

> My only disapointment was not starting sooner.

>

> xx

>

>

>

> Autism Treatment

> From: greenkirsty1@...

> Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2010 09:56:19 +0000

> Subject: Andy Cutler Chelation Update - to help newcomers

>

>

>

>

>

> Dear all,

> I find i am normally just posting questions on here but i wanted to give an update on my son Sam since he has started Andy Cutler Chelation. We are currently on round 19 and Sam is on 10mg ALA and 5mg of DMSA for 72 hour rounds.

>

> Sam's language is what we are seeing the most gains in. His language is so much more normal if this makes sense. We have small normal conversations. He makes comments to me now all the time that a typical boy would make like "don't do that, its annoying" "leave my toys, stop clearing up, it makes me angry" His expressive language is what is rocketing. Sometimes abit too much!! I constantly get told i am fired, is very defiant etc etc....but from what he has come gained in speech from what he had....is amazing. He only started talking when he was 5.

>

> Also his behaviour is alot more normal, the aggression has gone right down. Sam was 8 last month and we had a birthday party for him and so many people commented on how he was so relaxed and how he understood everything and they all had conversations with him.

>

> I showed him last week the presentation i was going to do at the TA conference and he told me he didn't like the video (an early one of him screaming and upset, basically how he communicated with us 24/7 in the days before we started working with him). He liked all the recent stuff on it though. When i came through the door sunday evening after driving home from the conference, he told me he had missed me, he loved me and that daddy is fired!

>

> I'll leave you with a little moment that has made the last few rounds worth it. On Sam's birthday when i tucked him in, he turned to me and said "mum, it was the best birthday ever"

> Hopefully this will encourage newcomers to look into the safe, low dosing of Andy Cutler. I really believe it is having these huge affects on him.

>

> Kirsty

> xx

>

[Guest guest]

Hi MarinaThe constant chewing might be parasites or low zinc. I would try a parasite cleanse first (there is a file on the recoveryfromautism group about products and timings), I used a clove, black walnut and wormwood product from Nature's Answer which worked well here. You need to start four days before the full moon which is Sunday 19th. If that doesn't fix it I would increase his zinc slowly. Sometimes different forms of zinc work better than others but you just have to keep trying them to see.Autism Treatment From: marinavrahimi@...Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2010 10:48:53 +0000Subject: Re: Andy Cutler Chelation Update - to help newcomers

Hi Kirsty - thanks for that info will be helpful to see it in an easy format! Cant wait to get started.

- thanks for the hemisphere link as I know that Jack does actually digest some of the plastic he is chewing as I see it come out the other end!! It is a real obsession with him and he has to have one in each hand, this morning he rooted through the kitchen drawer and found two Nurofen syringes and started chewing on them, when he is chewing them he is banging them together!!! The banging doesnt bother me but chewing and eating them really does. Marina xx

>

>

>

>

>

>

> Kirsty

>

> you have just made me cry again, so lovely to hear kids progressing so well.

>

> For all the newbies:- I was so nervous about starting chelation and it took me about six months to start because of this fact, now we are on round 24 and Harry is making nice steady gains, lots more vocalisation, so anyone who is at the stage of wanting to start, don't be nervous Andy Cutlers protocol (1/8mg - 1/2mg per pound of body weight) is safe because like Kirsty said it is low dose chelation. Harry weighed 35lbs when we started so i gave him 5mg of DMSA every 3 hours in day and 4 hourly at night starting 4pm on a Friday after school to the following Monday 8am before school, i did 6 weeks of DMSA alone, then added in ALA (at 5mg also). Harry has been doing so well that i have been able to slightly increase both the DMSA & ALA but seeing as his weight has increased to he is probably still on the same dose.

>

> My only disapointment was not starting sooner.

>

> xx

>

>

>

> Autism Treatment

> From: greenkirsty1@...

> Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2010 09:56:19 +0000

> Subject: Andy Cutler Chelation Update - to help newcomers

>

>

>

>

>

> Dear all,

> I find i am normally just posting questions on here but i wanted to give an update on my son Sam since he has started Andy Cutler Chelation. We are currently on round 19 and Sam is on 10mg ALA and 5mg of DMSA for 72 hour rounds.

>

> Sam's language is what we are seeing the most gains in. His language is so much more normal if this makes sense. We have small normal conversations. He makes comments to me now all the time that a typical boy would make like "don't do that, its annoying" "leave my toys, stop clearing up, it makes me angry" His expressive language is what is rocketing. Sometimes abit too much!! I constantly get told i am fired, is very defiant etc etc....but from what he has come gained in speech from what he had....is amazing. He only started talking when he was 5.

>

> Also his behaviour is alot more normal, the aggression has gone right down. Sam was 8 last month and we had a birthday party for him and so many people commented on how he was so relaxed and how he understood everything and they all had conversations with him.

>

> I showed him last week the presentation i was going to do at the TA conference and he told me he didn't like the video (an early one of him screaming and upset, basically how he communicated with us 24/7 in the days before we started working with him). He liked all the recent stuff on it though. When i came through the door sunday evening after driving home from the conference, he told me he had missed me, he loved me and that daddy is fired!

>

> I'll leave you with a little moment that has made the last few rounds worth it. On Sam's birthday when i tucked him in, he turned to me and said "mum, it was the best birthday ever"

> Hopefully this will encourage newcomers to look into the safe, low dosing of Andy Cutler. I really believe it is having these huge affects on him.

>

> Kirsty

> xx

>

[Guest guest]

Hi - I seem to remember Jack having no parasites but very yeasty on his first tests so do you think it could be zinc???  He has the Kirkmans Zinc magnesium cream that I rub into his back at night time.  Marina x

On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 2:26 PM, McReynolds <canadacath@...> wrote:

 

Hi Marina

The constant chewing might be parasites or low zinc.  I would try a parasite cleanse first (there is a file on the recoveryfromautism group about products and timings), I used a clove, black walnut and wormwood product from Nature's Answer which worked well here.  You need to start four days before the full moon which is Sunday 19th.  If that doesn't fix it I would increase his zinc slowly.  Sometimes different forms of zinc work better than others but you just have to keep trying them to see.

Autism Treatment From: marinavrahimi@...

Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2010 10:48:53 +0000Subject: Re: Andy Cutler Chelation Update - to help newcomers

 

Hi Kirsty - thanks for that info will be helpful to see it in an easy format! Cant wait to get started. - thanks for the hemisphere link as I know that Jack does actually digest some of the plastic he is chewing as I see it come out the other end!! It is a real obsession with him and he has to have one in each hand, this morning he rooted through the kitchen drawer and found two Nurofen syringes and started chewing on them, when he is chewing them he is banging them together!!! The banging doesnt bother me but chewing and eating them really does. Marina xx

> > > > > > > Kirsty> > you have just made me cry again, so lovely to hear kids progressing so well.

> > For all the newbies:- I was so nervous about starting chelation and it took me about six months to start because of this fact, now we are on round 24 and Harry is making nice steady gains, lots more vocalisation, so anyone who is at the stage of wanting to start, don't be nervous Andy Cutlers protocol (1/8mg - 1/2mg per pound of body weight) is safe because like Kirsty said it is low dose chelation. Harry weighed 35lbs when we started so i gave him 5mg of DMSA every 3 hours in day and 4 hourly at night starting 4pm on a Friday after school to the following Monday 8am before school, i did 6 weeks of DMSA alone, then added in ALA (at 5mg also). Harry has been doing so well that i have been able to slightly increase both the DMSA & ALA but seeing as his weight has increased to he is probably still on the same dose.

> > My only disapointment was not starting sooner.> > xx> > > > Autism Treatment

> From: greenkirsty1@...> Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2010 09:56:19 +0000> Subject: Andy Cutler Chelation Update - to help newcomers > > > > > > Dear all,

> I find i am normally just posting questions on here but i wanted to give an update on my son Sam since he has started Andy Cutler Chelation. We are currently on round 19 and Sam is on 10mg ALA and 5mg of DMSA for 72 hour rounds.

> > Sam's language is what we are seeing the most gains in. His language is so much more normal if this makes sense. We have small normal conversations. He makes comments to me now all the time that a typical boy would make like " don't do that, its annoying " " leave my toys, stop clearing up, it makes me angry " His expressive language is what is rocketing. Sometimes abit too much!! I constantly get told i am fired, is very defiant etc etc....but from what he has come gained in speech from what he had....is amazing. He only started talking when he was 5.

> > Also his behaviour is alot more normal, the aggression has gone right down. Sam was 8 last month and we had a birthday party for him and so many people commented on how he was so relaxed and how he understood everything and they all had conversations with him.

> > I showed him last week the presentation i was going to do at the TA conference and he told me he didn't like the video (an early one of him screaming and upset, basically how he communicated with us 24/7 in the days before we started working with him). He liked all the recent stuff on it though. When i came through the door sunday evening after driving home from the conference, he told me he had missed me, he loved me and that daddy is fired!

> > I'll leave you with a little moment that has made the last few rounds worth it. On Sam's birthday when i tucked him in, he turned to me and said " mum, it was the best birthday ever " > Hopefully this will encourage newcomers to look into the safe, low dosing of Andy Cutler. I really believe it is having these huge affects on him.

> > Kirsty> xx>

[Guest guest]

Hi - I seem to remember Jack having no parasites but very yeasty on his first tests so do you think it could be zinc???  He has the Kirkmans Zinc magnesium cream that I rub into his back at night time.  Marina x

On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 2:26 PM, McReynolds <canadacath@...> wrote:

 

Hi Marina

The constant chewing might be parasites or low zinc.  I would try a parasite cleanse first (there is a file on the recoveryfromautism group about products and timings), I used a clove, black walnut and wormwood product from Nature's Answer which worked well here.  You need to start four days before the full moon which is Sunday 19th.  If that doesn't fix it I would increase his zinc slowly.  Sometimes different forms of zinc work better than others but you just have to keep trying them to see.

Autism Treatment From: marinavrahimi@...

Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2010 10:48:53 +0000Subject: Re: Andy Cutler Chelation Update - to help newcomers

 

Hi Kirsty - thanks for that info will be helpful to see it in an easy format! Cant wait to get started. - thanks for the hemisphere link as I know that Jack does actually digest some of the plastic he is chewing as I see it come out the other end!! It is a real obsession with him and he has to have one in each hand, this morning he rooted through the kitchen drawer and found two Nurofen syringes and started chewing on them, when he is chewing them he is banging them together!!! The banging doesnt bother me but chewing and eating them really does. Marina xx

> > > > > > > Kirsty> > you have just made me cry again, so lovely to hear kids progressing so well.

> > For all the newbies:- I was so nervous about starting chelation and it took me about six months to start because of this fact, now we are on round 24 and Harry is making nice steady gains, lots more vocalisation, so anyone who is at the stage of wanting to start, don't be nervous Andy Cutlers protocol (1/8mg - 1/2mg per pound of body weight) is safe because like Kirsty said it is low dose chelation. Harry weighed 35lbs when we started so i gave him 5mg of DMSA every 3 hours in day and 4 hourly at night starting 4pm on a Friday after school to the following Monday 8am before school, i did 6 weeks of DMSA alone, then added in ALA (at 5mg also). Harry has been doing so well that i have been able to slightly increase both the DMSA & ALA but seeing as his weight has increased to he is probably still on the same dose.

> > My only disapointment was not starting sooner.> > xx> > > > Autism Treatment

> From: greenkirsty1@...> Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2010 09:56:19 +0000> Subject: Andy Cutler Chelation Update - to help newcomers > > > > > > Dear all,

> I find i am normally just posting questions on here but i wanted to give an update on my son Sam since he has started Andy Cutler Chelation. We are currently on round 19 and Sam is on 10mg ALA and 5mg of DMSA for 72 hour rounds.

> > Sam's language is what we are seeing the most gains in. His language is so much more normal if this makes sense. We have small normal conversations. He makes comments to me now all the time that a typical boy would make like " don't do that, its annoying " " leave my toys, stop clearing up, it makes me angry " His expressive language is what is rocketing. Sometimes abit too much!! I constantly get told i am fired, is very defiant etc etc....but from what he has come gained in speech from what he had....is amazing. He only started talking when he was 5.

> > Also his behaviour is alot more normal, the aggression has gone right down. Sam was 8 last month and we had a birthday party for him and so many people commented on how he was so relaxed and how he understood everything and they all had conversations with him.

> > I showed him last week the presentation i was going to do at the TA conference and he told me he didn't like the video (an early one of him screaming and upset, basically how he communicated with us 24/7 in the days before we started working with him). He liked all the recent stuff on it though. When i came through the door sunday evening after driving home from the conference, he told me he had missed me, he loved me and that daddy is fired!

> > I'll leave you with a little moment that has made the last few rounds worth it. On Sam's birthday when i tucked him in, he turned to me and said " mum, it was the best birthday ever " > Hopefully this will encourage newcomers to look into the safe, low dosing of Andy Cutler. I really believe it is having these huge affects on him.

> > Kirsty> xx>

[Guest guest]

Hi Kirsty

Is this a group!!!

Thanks

Vinoo

xx

From: greenkirsty1 <greenkirsty1@...>Subject: Re: Andy Cutler Chelation Update - to help newcomersAutism Treatment Date: Tuesday, 14 September, 2010, 11:32

If you join the forum recoveryfromautism, they have Documents you can download in the file section that are extremley easy to read. Especially the one called "How to chelate children safely"They also have the tables of the vitamins and supplements they need to be on before you start and how to dose and schedules.Kirstyx> > > > > > > Kirsty> > you have just made me cry again, so lovely to hear kids progressing so well. > > For all the newbies:- I was so nervous about starting chelation and it took me

about six months to start because of this fact, now we are on round 24 and Harry is making nice steady gains, lots more vocalisation, so anyone who is at the stage of wanting to start, don't be nervous Andy Cutlers protocol (1/8mg - 1/2mg per pound of body weight) is safe because like Kirsty said it is low dose chelation. Harry weighed 35lbs when we started so i gave him 5mg of DMSA every 3 hours in day and 4 hourly at night starting 4pm on a Friday after school to the following Monday 8am before school, i did 6 weeks of DMSA alone, then added in ALA (at 5mg also). Harry has been doing so well that i have been able to slightly increase both the DMSA & ALA but seeing as his weight has increased to he is probably still on the same dose.> > My only disapointment was not starting sooner.> > xx> > > > Autism Treatment > From: greenkirsty1@...> Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2010 09:56:19 +0000> Subject: Andy Cutler Chelation Update - to help newcomers > > > > > > Dear all,> I find i am normally just posting questions on here but i wanted to give an update on my son Sam since he has started Andy Cutler Chelation. We are currently on round 19 and Sam is on 10mg ALA and 5mg of DMSA for 72 hour rounds.> > Sam's language is what we are seeing the most gains in. His language is so much more normal if this makes sense. We have small normal conversations. He makes comments to me now all the time that a typical boy would make like "don't do that, its

annoying" "leave my toys, stop clearing up, it makes me angry" His expressive language is what is rocketing. Sometimes abit too much!! I constantly get told i am fired, is very defiant etc etc....but from what he has come gained in speech from what he had....is amazing. He only started talking when he was 5.> > Also his behaviour is alot more normal, the aggression has gone right down. Sam was 8 last month and we had a birthday party for him and so many people commented on how he was so relaxed and how he understood everything and they all had conversations with him.> > I showed him last week the presentation i was going to do at the TA conference and he told me he didn't like the video (an early one of him screaming and upset, basically how he communicated with us 24/7 in the days before we started working with him). He liked all the recent stuff on it though. When i came through the door sunday evening after driving home

from the conference, he told me he had missed me, he loved me and that daddy is fired! > > I'll leave you with a little moment that has made the last few rounds worth it. On Sam's birthday when i tucked him in, he turned to me and said "mum, it was the best birthday ever"> Hopefully this will encourage newcomers to look into the safe, low dosing of Andy Cutler. I really believe it is having these huge affects on him.> > Kirsty> xx>

[Guest guest]

We are thinking about starting Chelation but my doctor tells me my son will have

to swallow a capsule of the DMSA to do the initial testing. My son doesn't take

pills. The pharmacy told me there is no other way to do the test. I asked if

we could use the creme, but I was told that would not working for testing, only

treatment. Any ideas?

>

> Dear all,

> I find i am normally just posting questions on here but i wanted to give an

update on my son Sam since he has started Andy Cutler Chelation. We are

currently on round 19 and Sam is on 10mg ALA and 5mg of DMSA for 72 hour rounds.

>

> Sam's language is what we are seeing the most gains in. His language is so

much more normal if this makes sense. We have small normal conversations. He

makes comments to me now all the time that a typical boy would make like " don't

do that, its annoying " " leave my toys, stop clearing up, it makes me angry " His

expressive language is what is rocketing. Sometimes abit too much!! I constantly

get told i am fired, is very defiant etc etc....but from what he has come gained

in speech from what he had....is amazing. He only started talking when he was 5.

>

> Also his behaviour is alot more normal, the aggression has gone right down.

Sam was 8 last month and we had a birthday party for him and so many people

commented on how he was so relaxed and how he understood everything and they all

had conversations with him.

>

> I showed him last week the presentation i was going to do at the TA conference

and he told me he didn't like the video (an early one of him screaming and

upset, basically how he communicated with us 24/7 in the days before we started

working with him). He liked all the recent stuff on it though. When i came

through the door sunday evening after driving home from the conference, he told

me he had missed me, he loved me and that daddy is fired!

>

> I'll leave you with a little moment that has made the last few rounds worth

it. On Sam's birthday when i tucked him in, he turned to me and said " mum, it

was the best birthday ever "

> Hopefully this will encourage newcomers to look into the safe, low dosing of

Andy Cutler. I really believe it is having these huge affects on him.

>

>

> Kirsty

> xx

>

[Guest guest]

HiI don't know exactly what test your doctor means??? I hope it isn't a challenge test as this is dangerous and can cause redistribution of metals/regression. There is absolutely no need to do any test first. And yes of course you can empty the pills into a drink or applesauce or yoghurt or whatever your son likes - he does not have to be able to swallow pills.Please join the recoveryfromautism group and read the files. There is probably information there about challenge testing too and how dangerous and unnecessary it is. If your doctor wants you to do this test, I would be seriously worried about the timing and dosage of the chelators they are recommending too. Andy Cutler chelation is the only protocol that is safe as it uses very low doses and is dosed according to its half life so there is no redistribution of metals. The DAN protocol is not safe. Please post again if you need any more information. Chelation has been by far the best thing we've done but it has to be the Cutler protocol. You do not need a doctor to do it, most of the people on the group are doing it without a doctor/DAN practitioner.Autism Treatment From: lynnadeiter@...Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2010 13:22:00 +0000Subject: Re: Andy Cutler Chelation Update - to help newcomers

We are thinking about starting Chelation but my doctor tells me my son will have to swallow a capsule of the DMSA to do the initial testing. My son doesn't take pills. The pharmacy told me there is no other way to do the test. I asked if we could use the creme, but I was told that would not working for testing, only treatment. Any ideas?

>

> Dear all,

> I find i am normally just posting questions on here but i wanted to give an update on my son Sam since he has started Andy Cutler Chelation. We are currently on round 19 and Sam is on 10mg ALA and 5mg of DMSA for 72 hour rounds.

>

> Sam's language is what we are seeing the most gains in. His language is so much more normal if this makes sense. We have small normal conversations. He makes comments to me now all the time that a typical boy would make like "don't do that, its annoying" "leave my toys, stop clearing up, it makes me angry" His expressive language is what is rocketing. Sometimes abit too much!! I constantly get told i am fired, is very defiant etc etc....but from what he has come gained in speech from what he had....is amazing. He only started talking when he was 5.

>

> Also his behaviour is alot more normal, the aggression has gone right down. Sam was 8 last month and we had a birthday party for him and so many people commented on how he was so relaxed and how he understood everything and they all had conversations with him.

>

> I showed him last week the presentation i was going to do at the TA conference and he told me he didn't like the video (an early one of him screaming and upset, basically how he communicated with us 24/7 in the days before we started working with him). He liked all the recent stuff on it though. When i came through the door sunday evening after driving home from the conference, he told me he had missed me, he loved me and that daddy is fired!

>

> I'll leave you with a little moment that has made the last few rounds worth it. On Sam's birthday when i tucked him in, he turned to me and said "mum, it was the best birthday ever"

> Hopefully this will encourage newcomers to look into the safe, low dosing of Andy Cutler. I really believe it is having these huge affects on him.

>

>

> Kirsty

> xx

>

[Guest guest]

HiI don't know exactly what test your doctor means??? I hope it isn't a challenge test as this is dangerous and can cause redistribution of metals/regression. There is absolutely no need to do any test first. And yes of course you can empty the pills into a drink or applesauce or yoghurt or whatever your son likes - he does not have to be able to swallow pills.Please join the recoveryfromautism group and read the files. There is probably information there about challenge testing too and how dangerous and unnecessary it is. If your doctor wants you to do this test, I would be seriously worried about the timing and dosage of the chelators they are recommending too. Andy Cutler chelation is the only protocol that is safe as it uses very low doses and is dosed according to its half life so there is no redistribution of metals. The DAN protocol is not safe. Please post again if you need any more information. Chelation has been by far the best thing we've done but it has to be the Cutler protocol. You do not need a doctor to do it, most of the people on the group are doing it without a doctor/DAN practitioner.Autism Treatment From: lynnadeiter@...Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2010 13:22:00 +0000Subject: Re: Andy Cutler Chelation Update - to help newcomers

We are thinking about starting Chelation but my doctor tells me my son will have to swallow a capsule of the DMSA to do the initial testing. My son doesn't take pills. The pharmacy told me there is no other way to do the test. I asked if we could use the creme, but I was told that would not working for testing, only treatment. Any ideas?

>

> Dear all,

> I find i am normally just posting questions on here but i wanted to give an update on my son Sam since he has started Andy Cutler Chelation. We are currently on round 19 and Sam is on 10mg ALA and 5mg of DMSA for 72 hour rounds.

>

> Sam's language is what we are seeing the most gains in. His language is so much more normal if this makes sense. We have small normal conversations. He makes comments to me now all the time that a typical boy would make like "don't do that, its annoying" "leave my toys, stop clearing up, it makes me angry" His expressive language is what is rocketing. Sometimes abit too much!! I constantly get told i am fired, is very defiant etc etc....but from what he has come gained in speech from what he had....is amazing. He only started talking when he was 5.

>

> Also his behaviour is alot more normal, the aggression has gone right down. Sam was 8 last month and we had a birthday party for him and so many people commented on how he was so relaxed and how he understood everything and they all had conversations with him.

>

> I showed him last week the presentation i was going to do at the TA conference and he told me he didn't like the video (an early one of him screaming and upset, basically how he communicated with us 24/7 in the days before we started working with him). He liked all the recent stuff on it though. When i came through the door sunday evening after driving home from the conference, he told me he had missed me, he loved me and that daddy is fired!

>

> I'll leave you with a little moment that has made the last few rounds worth it. On Sam's birthday when i tucked him in, he turned to me and said "mum, it was the best birthday ever"

> Hopefully this will encourage newcomers to look into the safe, low dosing of Andy Cutler. I really believe it is having these huge affects on him.

>

>

> Kirsty

> xx

>

[Guest guest]

Lynn,

I am sending you off forum why not to do a challenge test. It can be very

dangerous, even though a lot of doctors seem to recommend it. The document i

send you will make it alot clearer as to why not

Kirsty

x

> >

> > Dear all,

> > I find i am normally just posting questions on here but i wanted to give an

update on my son Sam since he has started Andy Cutler Chelation. We are

currently on round 19 and Sam is on 10mg ALA and 5mg of DMSA for 72 hour rounds.

> >

> > Sam's language is what we are seeing the most gains in. His language is so

much more normal if this makes sense. We have small normal conversations. He

makes comments to me now all the time that a typical boy would make like " don't

do that, its annoying " " leave my toys, stop clearing up, it makes me angry " His

expressive language is what is rocketing. Sometimes abit too much!! I constantly

get told i am fired, is very defiant etc etc....but from what he has come gained

in speech from what he had....is amazing. He only started talking when he was 5.

> >

> > Also his behaviour is alot more normal, the aggression has gone right down.

Sam was 8 last month and we had a birthday party for him and so many people

commented on how he was so relaxed and how he understood everything and they all

had conversations with him.

> >

> > I showed him last week the presentation i was going to do at the TA

conference and he told me he didn't like the video (an early one of him

screaming and upset, basically how he communicated with us 24/7 in the days

before we started working with him). He liked all the recent stuff on it though.

When i came through the door sunday evening after driving home from the

conference, he told me he had missed me, he loved me and that daddy is fired!

> >

> > I'll leave you with a little moment that has made the last few rounds worth

it. On Sam's birthday when i tucked him in, he turned to me and said " mum, it

was the best birthday ever "

> > Hopefully this will encourage newcomers to look into the safe, low dosing of

Andy Cutler. I really believe it is having these huge affects on him.

> >

> >

> > Kirsty

> > xx

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Lynn,

I am sending you off forum why not to do a challenge test. It can be very

dangerous, even though a lot of doctors seem to recommend it. The document i

send you will make it alot clearer as to why not

Kirsty

x

> >

> > Dear all,

> > I find i am normally just posting questions on here but i wanted to give an

update on my son Sam since he has started Andy Cutler Chelation. We are

currently on round 19 and Sam is on 10mg ALA and 5mg of DMSA for 72 hour rounds.

> >

> > Sam's language is what we are seeing the most gains in. His language is so

much more normal if this makes sense. We have small normal conversations. He

makes comments to me now all the time that a typical boy would make like " don't

do that, its annoying " " leave my toys, stop clearing up, it makes me angry " His

expressive language is what is rocketing. Sometimes abit too much!! I constantly

get told i am fired, is very defiant etc etc....but from what he has come gained

in speech from what he had....is amazing. He only started talking when he was 5.

> >

> > Also his behaviour is alot more normal, the aggression has gone right down.

Sam was 8 last month and we had a birthday party for him and so many people

commented on how he was so relaxed and how he understood everything and they all

had conversations with him.

> >

> > I showed him last week the presentation i was going to do at the TA

conference and he told me he didn't like the video (an early one of him

screaming and upset, basically how he communicated with us 24/7 in the days

before we started working with him). He liked all the recent stuff on it though.

When i came through the door sunday evening after driving home from the

conference, he told me he had missed me, he loved me and that daddy is fired!

> >

> > I'll leave you with a little moment that has made the last few rounds worth

it. On Sam's birthday when i tucked him in, he turned to me and said " mum, it

was the best birthday ever "

> > Hopefully this will encourage newcomers to look into the safe, low dosing of

Andy Cutler. I really believe it is having these huge affects on him.

> >

> >

> > Kirsty

> > xx

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Hello Lynn,

If I am not wrong for remembering, I used suppositories, I think.My son was 7 I

think, we've done the initial testing.You could ask Breakspear Hospital.My son

had the test under the Dr 's supervison at that time.

Nevin

> >

> > Dear all,

> > I find i am normally just posting questions on here but i wanted to give an

update on my son Sam since he has started Andy Cutler Chelation. We are

currently on round 19 and Sam is on 10mg ALA and 5mg of DMSA for 72 hour rounds.

> >

> > Sam's language is what we are seeing the most gains in. His language is so

much more normal if this makes sense. We have small normal conversations. He

makes comments to me now all the time that a typical boy would make like " don't

do that, its annoying " " leave my toys, stop clearing up, it makes me angry " His

expressive language is what is rocketing. Sometimes abit too much!! I constantly

get told i am fired, is very defiant etc etc....but from what he has come gained

in speech from what he had....is amazing. He only started talking when he was 5.

> >

> > Also his behaviour is alot more normal, the aggression has gone right down.

Sam was 8 last month and we had a birthday party for him and so many people

commented on how he was so relaxed and how he understood everything and they all

had conversations with him.

> >

> > I showed him last week the presentation i was going to do at the TA

conference and he told me he didn't like the video (an early one of him

screaming and upset, basically how he communicated with us 24/7 in the days

before we started working with him). He liked all the recent stuff on it though.

When i came through the door sunday evening after driving home from the

conference, he told me he had missed me, he loved me and that daddy is fired!

> >

> > I'll leave you with a little moment that has made the last few rounds worth

it. On Sam's birthday when i tucked him in, he turned to me and said " mum, it

was the best birthday ever "

> > Hopefully this will encourage newcomers to look into the safe, low dosing of

Andy Cutler. I really believe it is having these huge affects on him.

> >

> >

> > Kirsty

> > xx

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Hello Lynn,

If I am not wrong for remembering, I used suppositories, I think.My son was 7 I

think, we've done the initial testing.You could ask Breakspear Hospital.My son

had the test under the Dr 's supervison at that time.

Nevin

> >

> > Dear all,

> > I find i am normally just posting questions on here but i wanted to give an

update on my son Sam since he has started Andy Cutler Chelation. We are

currently on round 19 and Sam is on 10mg ALA and 5mg of DMSA for 72 hour rounds.

> >

> > Sam's language is what we are seeing the most gains in. His language is so

much more normal if this makes sense. We have small normal conversations. He

makes comments to me now all the time that a typical boy would make like " don't

do that, its annoying " " leave my toys, stop clearing up, it makes me angry " His

expressive language is what is rocketing. Sometimes abit too much!! I constantly

get told i am fired, is very defiant etc etc....but from what he has come gained

in speech from what he had....is amazing. He only started talking when he was 5.

> >

> > Also his behaviour is alot more normal, the aggression has gone right down.

Sam was 8 last month and we had a birthday party for him and so many people

commented on how he was so relaxed and how he understood everything and they all

had conversations with him.

> >

> > I showed him last week the presentation i was going to do at the TA

conference and he told me he didn't like the video (an early one of him

screaming and upset, basically how he communicated with us 24/7 in the days

before we started working with him). He liked all the recent stuff on it though.

When i came through the door sunday evening after driving home from the

conference, he told me he had missed me, he loved me and that daddy is fired!

> >

> > I'll leave you with a little moment that has made the last few rounds worth

it. On Sam's birthday when i tucked him in, he turned to me and said " mum, it

was the best birthday ever "

> > Hopefully this will encourage newcomers to look into the safe, low dosing of

Andy Cutler. I really believe it is having these huge affects on him.

> >

> >

> > Kirsty

> > xx

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Lynn,

If your doctor is saying you need to run a test in order to determine whether or

not your child is toxic, a challenge test is a poor choice for a two good

reasons.

First, a large one time dose of any chelator will move a lot of metals in almost

anyone. Healthy people without metal toxicity, for example. One group of

people that don't seem to always move a lot of metals in a challenge test are

children with asd and huge problems detoxifying--I've read about lots of kids

who showed no metals on these sorts of tests, only to go on and chelate with

great results. So, your child could not have metal problems but still excrete a

large amount of metals. Your child could have problems and excrete a large

amount of metals. Your child could have problems and excrete virtually no

metals. How will you know what is the case?

Second, a large bolus dose can pick up a lot of metals that aren't actually

causing harm, and then because the body cannot excrete all of them, they settle

back into other places, running the very real risk that they settle back into

the brain, the endocrine system, and other vulnerable systems. This is what

happened to many of our kids in the first place. The harm done by this sort of

thing is not always immediately apparent--ask any parent whose kid was shot full

of thimerosal. For my own son, the damage didn't become fully known for

months.

I'd also like to comment on the advice you've been given that transdermal

chelation can treat but cannot be used to test. This makes no sense to me. If

you do test with oral chelation, then believe that it works, why would moving to

a completely different form of chelation be a good option? Wouldn't it make

more sense to test with the form of chelation that you intend to use long term,

to have a better idea if it is going to work?

I would suggest that you do a few safe rounds of chelation per Cutler protocol

and see what happens. If you want to test after that, wait 4 weeks and run a

porphyrins test. You run absolutely no risk with porphyrin testins and can get

a better view of what is going on inside your child.

If the doctor won't give you dmsa to chelate because you won't do it his/her

way, you can easily get it on your own.

Anita

> >

> > Dear all,

> > I find i am normally just posting questions on here but i wanted to give an

update on my son Sam since he has started Andy Cutler Chelation. We are

currently on round 19 and Sam is on 10mg ALA and 5mg of DMSA for 72 hour rounds.

> >

> > Sam's language is what we are seeing the most gains in. His language is so

much more normal if this makes sense. We have small normal conversations. He

makes comments to me now all the time that a typical boy would make like " don't

do that, its annoying " " leave my toys, stop clearing up, it makes me angry " His

expressive language is what is rocketing. Sometimes abit too much!! I constantly

get told i am fired, is very defiant etc etc....but from what he has come gained

in speech from what he had....is amazing. He only started talking when he was 5.

> >

> > Also his behaviour is alot more normal, the aggression has gone right down.

Sam was 8 last month and we had a birthday party for him and so many people

commented on how he was so relaxed and how he understood everything and they all

had conversations with him.

> >

> > I showed him last week the presentation i was going to do at the TA

conference and he told me he didn't like the video (an early one of him

screaming and upset, basically how he communicated with us 24/7 in the days

before we started working with him). He liked all the recent stuff on it though.

When i came through the door sunday evening after driving home from the

conference, he told me he had missed me, he loved me and that daddy is fired!

> >

> > I'll leave you with a little moment that has made the last few rounds worth

it. On Sam's birthday when i tucked him in, he turned to me and said " mum, it

was the best birthday ever "

> > Hopefully this will encourage newcomers to look into the safe, low dosing of

Andy Cutler. I really believe it is having these huge affects on him.

> >

> >

> > Kirsty

> > xx

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Lynn,

If your doctor is saying you need to run a test in order to determine whether or

not your child is toxic, a challenge test is a poor choice for a two good

reasons.

First, a large one time dose of any chelator will move a lot of metals in almost

anyone. Healthy people without metal toxicity, for example. One group of

people that don't seem to always move a lot of metals in a challenge test are

children with asd and huge problems detoxifying--I've read about lots of kids

who showed no metals on these sorts of tests, only to go on and chelate with

great results. So, your child could not have metal problems but still excrete a

large amount of metals. Your child could have problems and excrete a large

amount of metals. Your child could have problems and excrete virtually no

metals. How will you know what is the case?

Second, a large bolus dose can pick up a lot of metals that aren't actually

causing harm, and then because the body cannot excrete all of them, they settle

back into other places, running the very real risk that they settle back into

the brain, the endocrine system, and other vulnerable systems. This is what

happened to many of our kids in the first place. The harm done by this sort of

thing is not always immediately apparent--ask any parent whose kid was shot full

of thimerosal. For my own son, the damage didn't become fully known for

months.

I'd also like to comment on the advice you've been given that transdermal

chelation can treat but cannot be used to test. This makes no sense to me. If

you do test with oral chelation, then believe that it works, why would moving to

a completely different form of chelation be a good option? Wouldn't it make

more sense to test with the form of chelation that you intend to use long term,

to have a better idea if it is going to work?

I would suggest that you do a few safe rounds of chelation per Cutler protocol

and see what happens. If you want to test after that, wait 4 weeks and run a

porphyrins test. You run absolutely no risk with porphyrin testins and can get

a better view of what is going on inside your child.

If the doctor won't give you dmsa to chelate because you won't do it his/her

way, you can easily get it on your own.

Anita

> >

> > Dear all,

> > I find i am normally just posting questions on here but i wanted to give an

update on my son Sam since he has started Andy Cutler Chelation. We are

currently on round 19 and Sam is on 10mg ALA and 5mg of DMSA for 72 hour rounds.

> >

> > Sam's language is what we are seeing the most gains in. His language is so

much more normal if this makes sense. We have small normal conversations. He

makes comments to me now all the time that a typical boy would make like " don't

do that, its annoying " " leave my toys, stop clearing up, it makes me angry " His

expressive language is what is rocketing. Sometimes abit too much!! I constantly

get told i am fired, is very defiant etc etc....but from what he has come gained

in speech from what he had....is amazing. He only started talking when he was 5.

> >

> > Also his behaviour is alot more normal, the aggression has gone right down.

Sam was 8 last month and we had a birthday party for him and so many people

commented on how he was so relaxed and how he understood everything and they all

had conversations with him.

> >

> > I showed him last week the presentation i was going to do at the TA

conference and he told me he didn't like the video (an early one of him

screaming and upset, basically how he communicated with us 24/7 in the days

before we started working with him). He liked all the recent stuff on it though.

When i came through the door sunday evening after driving home from the

conference, he told me he had missed me, he loved me and that daddy is fired!

> >

> > I'll leave you with a little moment that has made the last few rounds worth

it. On Sam's birthday when i tucked him in, he turned to me and said " mum, it

was the best birthday ever "

> > Hopefully this will encourage newcomers to look into the safe, low dosing of

Andy Cutler. I really believe it is having these huge affects on him.

> >

> >

> > Kirsty

> > xx

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Kirsty

Who is the Moderator on the Recovery from Autism group?

Eileen

>

> Dear all,

> I find i am normally just posting questions on here but i wanted to give an

update on my son Sam since he has started Andy Cutler Chelation. We are

currently on round 19 and Sam is on 10mg ALA and 5mg of DMSA for 72 hour rounds.

>

> Sam's language is what we are seeing the most gains in. His language is so

much more normal if this makes sense. We have small normal conversations. He

makes comments to me now all the time that a typical boy would make like " don't

do that, its annoying " " leave my toys, stop clearing up, it makes me angry " His

expressive language is what is rocketing. Sometimes abit too much!! I constantly

get told i am fired, is very defiant etc etc....but from what he has come gained

in speech from what he had....is amazing. He only started talking when he was 5.

>

> Also his behaviour is alot more normal, the aggression has gone right down.

Sam was 8 last month and we had a birthday party for him and so many people

commented on how he was so relaxed and how he understood everything and they all

had conversations with him.

>

> I showed him last week the presentation i was going to do at the TA conference

and he told me he didn't like the video (an early one of him screaming and

upset, basically how he communicated with us 24/7 in the days before we started

working with him). He liked all the recent stuff on it though. When i came

through the door sunday evening after driving home from the conference, he told

me he had missed me, he loved me and that daddy is fired!

>

> I'll leave you with a little moment that has made the last few rounds worth

it. On Sam's birthday when i tucked him in, he turned to me and said " mum, it

was the best birthday ever "

> Hopefully this will encourage newcomers to look into the safe, low dosing of

Andy Cutler. I really believe it is having these huge affects on him.

>

>

> Kirsty

> xx

>

[Guest guest]

Kirsty

Who is the Moderator on the Recovery from Autism group?

Eileen

>

> Dear all,

> I find i am normally just posting questions on here but i wanted to give an

update on my son Sam since he has started Andy Cutler Chelation. We are

currently on round 19 and Sam is on 10mg ALA and 5mg of DMSA for 72 hour rounds.

>

> Sam's language is what we are seeing the most gains in. His language is so

much more normal if this makes sense. We have small normal conversations. He

makes comments to me now all the time that a typical boy would make like " don't

do that, its annoying " " leave my toys, stop clearing up, it makes me angry " His

expressive language is what is rocketing. Sometimes abit too much!! I constantly

get told i am fired, is very defiant etc etc....but from what he has come gained

in speech from what he had....is amazing. He only started talking when he was 5.

>

> Also his behaviour is alot more normal, the aggression has gone right down.

Sam was 8 last month and we had a birthday party for him and so many people

commented on how he was so relaxed and how he understood everything and they all

had conversations with him.

>

> I showed him last week the presentation i was going to do at the TA conference

and he told me he didn't like the video (an early one of him screaming and

upset, basically how he communicated with us 24/7 in the days before we started

working with him). He liked all the recent stuff on it though. When i came

through the door sunday evening after driving home from the conference, he told

me he had missed me, he loved me and that daddy is fired!

>

> I'll leave you with a little moment that has made the last few rounds worth

it. On Sam's birthday when i tucked him in, he turned to me and said " mum, it

was the best birthday ever "

> Hopefully this will encourage newcomers to look into the safe, low dosing of

Andy Cutler. I really believe it is having these huge affects on him.

>

>

> Kirsty

> xx

>