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Wow Dave - did you get rebound behaviours? Was one of the first things I ever read about and seemed so exciting but I am thinking these days we have a much better handle on gut bugs, when I first started we (as in ASD community/DAN) only just knew about yeast, bacteria came along later and this was olden days stuff, ie 10 years+ ago

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In a message dated 29/09/2010 15:39:42 GMT Daylight Time, dava93@... writes:

Hi , used this alot, first time we used it s bowel improved loads and he was potty trained in a week. When he did used to get constipated if all else failed this would work. Probably it used to just change the composition of what was in the tube ie get rid of the bad bacteria. Also usually used it with an anti fungal never used it on its own.dave

Autism Treatment From: peter_2_@...Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2010 14:01:30 +0000Subject: Vancomycin (oral)

Has anyone used this (orally) and how was it?Was it obtained from Breakspears hospital?I understand it can be for Chlostridia and Strep amongst other thingsThanks

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I meant to say maybe rebound is not such a problem these days. Must cut down number of jobs I am doing at once, I'm a bit excitable today!

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Wow Dave - did you get rebound behaviours? Was one of the first things I ever read about and seemed so exciting but I am thinking these days we have a much better handle on gut bugs, when I first started we (as in ASD community/DAN) only just knew about yeast, bacteria came along later and this was olden days stuff, ie 10 years+ ago

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I meant to say maybe rebound is not such a problem these days. Must cut down number of jobs I am doing at once, I'm a bit excitable today!

Mandi x

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Wow Dave - did you get rebound behaviours? Was one of the first things I ever read about and seemed so exciting but I am thinking these days we have a much better handle on gut bugs, when I first started we (as in ASD community/DAN) only just knew about yeast, bacteria came along later and this was olden days stuff, ie 10 years+ ago

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We are seeing very good improvements with metronidazole antibiotics.

Jasmine has been taking them for 2 weeks on and 1 week off. We saw the

GI last week, and she admitted she could see the improvements too. We have had

to fight for many years to get a trial of these from the GI, but when we did,

the staff at her school came to me and said that Jasmine had suddenly started

engaging with her peers, could concentrate more, was less fidgety, and more

" with it " . I asked them if they would put this in a statement, which they did,

and I presented these to the GI at the next meeting. Since then the GI has said

as long as she gets at least a week off, she can have them long term. I asked

the GI if I could also add bicarbonate of soda, which she agreed to. We are

slowly working up to 1/2 a teaspoon per day, alongside the metronidazole, so I

am hoping to see more improvements soon.

Good luck

Glynis x

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> Has anyone used this (orally) and how was it?

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> Was it obtained from Breakspears hospital?

>

> I understand it can be for Chlostridia and Strep amongst other things

>

> Thanks

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We are seeing very good improvements with metronidazole antibiotics.

Jasmine has been taking them for 2 weeks on and 1 week off. We saw the

GI last week, and she admitted she could see the improvements too. We have had

to fight for many years to get a trial of these from the GI, but when we did,

the staff at her school came to me and said that Jasmine had suddenly started

engaging with her peers, could concentrate more, was less fidgety, and more

" with it " . I asked them if they would put this in a statement, which they did,

and I presented these to the GI at the next meeting. Since then the GI has said

as long as she gets at least a week off, she can have them long term. I asked

the GI if I could also add bicarbonate of soda, which she agreed to. We are

slowly working up to 1/2 a teaspoon per day, alongside the metronidazole, so I

am hoping to see more improvements soon.

Good luck

Glynis x

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> Has anyone used this (orally) and how was it?

>

> Was it obtained from Breakspears hospital?

>

> I understand it can be for Chlostridia and Strep amongst other things

>

> Thanks

>

>

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Fine, no side effects, works quickly. BUT not to be used lightly I'd say. Good

to wipe the slate clean and start again but it's a very thorough thing (although

orally it's apparently not systemic, but don't quote me on that) so handle with

care

x

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> Has anyone used this (orally) and how was it?

>

> Was it obtained from Breakspears hospital?

>

> I understand it can be for Chlostridia and Strep amongst other things

>

> Thanks

>

>

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Hello

I have been told by an extremely trustworthy source that ORAL Vancomycin does not enter the bloodsteeam (simply treats gut like nystatin does)

Please can you tell me from where you obtained this and if you/ anyone has any spare

Thanks

> Autism Treatment > From: mark.grabiec@...> Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2010 08:23:54 +0000> Subject: Re: Vancomycin (oral)> > Fine, no side effects, works quickly. BUT not to be used lightly I'd say. Good to wipe the slate clean and start again but it's a very thorough thing (although orally it's apparently not systemic, but don't quote me on that) so handle with care> x> > > >> > Has anyone used this (orally) and how was it?> > > > Was it obtained from Breakspears hospital?> > > > I understand it can be for Chlostridia and Strep amongst other things> > > > Thanks> > > > > >> > > > > ------------------------------------> > DISCLAIMER> No information contained in this post is to be construed as medical advice. If you need medical advice, please seek it from a suitably qualified practitioner.>

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We used Vanco oral from the US in a syrup form about 5 years ago[ stephanos was

7 ish] Got a better behaved child, less aggression had excellent results...

regards

chriso

Vancomycin (oral)

Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2010 14:01:30 -0000

> Has anyone used this (orally) and how was it?

>

> Was it obtained from Breakspears hospital?

>

> I understand it can be for Chlostridia and Strep amongst other things

>

> Thanks

>

>

>

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Please can you advise anywhere I can get this from > Autism Treatment > From: tryfonas@...> Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2010 20:43:34 +0300> Subject: Re: Vancomycin (oral)> > We used Vanco oral from the US in a syrup form about 5 years ago[ stephanos was 7 ish] Got a better behaved child, less aggression had excellent results...> regards> chriso> > Vancomycin (oral)> Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2010 14:01:30 -0000> > Has anyone used this (orally) and how was it?> > > > Was it obtained from Breakspears hospital?> > > > I understand it can be for Chlostridia and Strep amongst other things> > > > Thanks> > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------> > DISCLAIMER> No information contained in this post is to be construed as medical advice. If you need medical advice, please seek it from a suitably qualified practitioner.>

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Please can you advise anywhere I can get this from > Autism Treatment > From: tryfonas@...> Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2010 20:43:34 +0300> Subject: Re: Vancomycin (oral)> > We used Vanco oral from the US in a syrup form about 5 years ago[ stephanos was 7 ish] Got a better behaved child, less aggression had excellent results...> regards> chriso> > Vancomycin (oral)> Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2010 14:01:30 -0000> > Has anyone used this (orally) and how was it?> > > > Was it obtained from Breakspears hospital?> > > > I understand it can be for Chlostridia and Strep amongst other things> > > > Thanks> > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------> > DISCLAIMER> No information contained in this post is to be construed as medical advice. If you need medical advice, please seek it from a suitably qualified practitioner.>

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If i remember well Costal Compound in the US... Was prescribed to Stephanos from

Dr Bradstreet....

Hope that helps

good luck

Vancomycin (oral)

> > Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2010 14:01:30 -0000

> > > Has anyone used this (orally) and how was it?

> > >

> > > Was it obtained from Breakspears hospital?

> > >

> > > I understand it can be for Chlostridia and Strep amongst other things

> > >

> > > Thanks

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> >

> >

> > ------------------------------------

> >

> > DISCLAIMER

> > No information contained in this post is to be construed as medical advice.

If you need medical advice, please seek it from a suitably qualified

practitioner.

> >

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If i remember well Costal Compound in the US... Was prescribed to Stephanos from

Dr Bradstreet....

Hope that helps

good luck

Vancomycin (oral)

> > Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2010 14:01:30 -0000

> > > Has anyone used this (orally) and how was it?

> > >

> > > Was it obtained from Breakspears hospital?

> > >

> > > I understand it can be for Chlostridia and Strep amongst other things

> > >

> > > Thanks

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> >

> >

> > ------------------------------------

> >

> > DISCLAIMER

> > No information contained in this post is to be construed as medical advice.

If you need medical advice, please seek it from a suitably qualified

practitioner.

> >

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I did this for a month with Sam.

I didn't see any change. If it did do something, as Mandi says, they rebound

pretty much straight after :-(

.....and it costs me £500 just for the prescription, let alone the consult with a

european dan dr

Kirsty

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> I have read that it is very effective but they rebound as soon as you stop

> :( I never tried it

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> Mandi x

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> peter_2_@... writes:

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> Has anyone used this (orally) and how was it?

>

> Was it obtained from Breakspears hospital?

>

> I understand it can be for Chlostridia and Strep amongst other things

>

> Thanks

>

>

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