Guest guest Posted April 9, 2007 Report Share Posted April 9, 2007 " But I am supposed to be thankful that some ape likes me. Um woo hoo " Ha ha, so true :-) I've had some apes put on the display and have told them I not interested, strangely enough (or maybe not) I had to get extremely blunt for the message to get through and then guess what? I get accused of being a lesbain! or that there must be something wrong with me for not been eternally thankful and grateful for their (unwanted) advances - Mmmmmmmm is it little wonder I remain mostly in cyber world. " mutual respect and discussion are the more likely ways to start a relationship. women can know when somone likes them and are able to send a go light. If that doesn't work you just might get told. " I agree, also I prefer to be told straight out; all the 'pussy footing' about (and aforementioned ape displays) is just confusing and annoying. However plucking up the courage to tell someone you are interested in more than just friendship can be difficult sometime and the last time I did that the guy wasn't interested in a serious relationship, but seemed to be implying he wouldn't mind a 'physical' element to the friendship - Mmmmmmmmmm that wasn't exactly a lasting friendship there. It is possible to be friends with guys without the physical aspect though - I have some good male friends online and also one good male friend off-line too (actually an ex boyfriend). > > > > Mmmmmmmm okay, from a slightly different perspective here, I've had > > male friends off line and I haven't noticed that they have been > > making advances and then when I have said I not interested in a > > romantic relationship - bye bye friendship :-( which makes me think > > they were never really interested in been friends in the first > place. > > > > Then there are some guys that seem to want friendship with what I > > assume they consider 'perks' well since I don't fool around with my > > friends like that those friendships don't last either. > > > > > Actually I was thinking the same thing friendship with a male sans > the desire for physical interaction means no friendship. I never had > a male friend that could stay a friend. unless we were in the same > working environment but that wasn't really friendship as much as > mutual consumption of space. By and large men are not interested in > friendship as they are in sex (I do find that however this is an NT > world construct) and one of the things I like about this place. I > have always preferred communication with men (but in this forum women > as well) suprise! But it is only with Aspies that I have felt safe. > Most men scare me(physical and mental agression) with a bent toward > subservience (they don't like them too smart either) But I am > supposed to be thankful that some ape likes me. Um woo hoo > > Not being lesbian I was sure I would remain alone, as most NT males > are completely unacceptable with 99% being scary or imbiciles or > exibiting confidence they could not back up with intelligence. I > know makes me look scary: but often I am insulted, by the audacity of > meager attempts. > > mutual respect and discussion are the more likely ways to start a > relationship. women can know when somone likes them and are able to > send a go light. If that doesn't work you just might get told. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 9, 2007 Report Share Posted April 9, 2007 > > > I have to wonder why some take things so personally when if they > looked at things logically they would realize it not personal against > them, that I withdrawing from the situation and too many people. > > To be honest sometimes I feel I bodering on paranoia, where I feel I > have to be careful of every thing I say and do lest I offend someone. I have learned to tell people I am claustaphobic around groups of people. If I am just honost that something is scaring me people tend to forgive me (and in reality I don't need their forgivness,) but whatever gets me the space!! he he It really is no secret to the people that I hang around that I am different. It is really only when I desire acceptance that I end up getting hurt (I am thinking of the rejection of my ex's family) They rejected Ravi's dx and made fun of me keeping him away from milk (behind my back) it didn't seem to matter to them that milk made him vomit. The more I tried to explain the more it hurt. So I just haven't seen them since and really they haven't tried to see Ravi. I think they are willing to see him when he is what they think he should be. He will never be what they expect an so we don't see them but I do need Ravi to know that there are those people out there. the ones that will never accept because they don't accept anything, because it might mean looking at themselves. Don't bother . i am sure it is best to interact with you when you feel best. It is best to interact with me when I am not wild eyed from a crowd and chest palpitating Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 10, 2007 Report Share Posted April 10, 2007 " By and large men are not interested in friendship as they are in sex (I do find that however this is an NT world construct) and one of the things I like about this place. " If you type " asexuality " in the search engine, you might pull up an article posted in this forum about Aspies and sex. Many Aspies are asexual, meaning they have little or no interest in sex. Women Aspies tend to have more testosterone in their systems and so take on more of a male role in relationships. Aspie men tend to be a bit less forward than their NT male counterparts. The result = more Aspie male/Aspie female friendships and fewer come- ons and flirtations. Tom Administrator Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 10, 2007 Report Share Posted April 10, 2007 I was saying that good relationships should take place as I have described them. Reality is quite different. In my experience, the few times I have been hit on by women, the women were just as aggressive as you describe men being. In reality, I think it would be much better if people were friends first before they involved themselves in relationships. Tom Administrator Tom your description is that of an Aspie relationship. a sensical one. no fair. From a female perspective, a woman is approached by a boorish, inflated, ignoramous. immidately sex is asked for, and the woman has to make a split decision. Say no, if she has any intrest she likely has to offer some physical offering just to find out if she should club or speak to him. NT men tend to rush everything. Aspie men are too afraid of fickle women that want displays of muscle over intelligence. relationships in this time tend to be shoot first and ask questions later. I agree with your rendition and that would be my preference but my experience is very different as others have also recounted. I wish your description were commonplace and mine were not mimi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 10, 2007 Report Share Posted April 10, 2007 " I have some good male friends online and also one good male friend off-line too (actually an ex boyfriend). " The reason the friendship with your offline ex-boyfriend works is because you two have already explored a relationship together and determined that it won't work. With that out of the way, friendship between two people of the opposite sex is much easier. Tom Administrator Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 10, 2007 Report Share Posted April 10, 2007 " I have some good male friends online and also one good male friend off-line too (actually an ex boyfriend). " The reason the friendship with your offline ex-boyfriend works is because you two have already explored a relationship together and determined that it won't work. With that out of the way, friendship between two people of the opposite sex is much easier. Tom Administrator Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 10, 2007 Report Share Posted April 10, 2007 Tom wrote: " ... <snip> ... In reality, I think it would be much better if people were friends first before they involved themselves in relationships. " Even then it may not work. Raven Co-Administrator Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 10, 2007 Report Share Posted April 10, 2007 Tom wrote: " ... <snip> ... In reality, I think it would be much better if people were friends first before they involved themselves in relationships. " Even then it may not work. Raven Co-Administrator Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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