Re: OT- part time home schooling

August 18, 2010

That's what they do here in Swansea, however I get the impression

it's unusual, which has just reminded me, Isobel that I said I'd

send you a copy of Tom's statement. Bit busy now but I'll just type

out the relevant bit on here in case it helps someone else.

Sara x

On 18/08/2010 11:31, michelle lacey wrote:

Hi Isobel

I am now wondering if you take your child out of school to

full time home school them, do you get the money instead

of the school for their education, this would obviously

helf me fund more tutor hours, as on my own i can only

afford approx 12 hours per week tutoring and 10 visits of

3 hours for supervisor who will oversee program.

x

Autism Treatment

From: isobelwizza@...

Date: Wed, 18 Aug 2010 10:15:49 +0000

Subject: Re: OT- part time home

schooling

hi michelle we o apart time aba home program which has

got longer and longer i tell them my son is out of

school for therp[aies ie osteopath homeopath this is

true but the rest of the day we do aba, I havnt

informed them off aba as have not gone to tribunal

yet, but if we loose will still continue to carry on

as we are, my son learned nothing at school for three

years except to jump on a trampoline and use touch

screen computers for priortywoods programs,, but with

sonrise first and then aba we have had huge success

found out he knew all sorts of things we awere not

aware of...Isobel

> >

> > Hi

> >

> > Just wondered if anyone is part time home

schooling their child, we

> > are currently having full time ABA (paid for

by LEA)at school but

> > they are starting to faze it out, to

completely faze out by April. I

> > was just wondering if i could take him out

of school for some of the

> >

; time and pay an ABA tutor myself to do ABA with him

at home as well

> > as me teaching him ABA. I am just wondering

if LEA/school would get

> > funny about us taking a full time place but

only using it pat of the

> > time.

> >

> > x

> >

>

August 18, 2010

Thanks Sara, did you have a battle with the LEA when you said you wanted to home school? Also how much do the government give for a special needs childs education?

x

Autism Treatment From: Moroza-@...Date: Wed, 18 Aug 2010 12:05:08 +0100Subject: Re: Re: OT- part time home schooling

That's what they do here in Swansea, however I get the impression it's unusual, which has just reminded me, Isobel that I said I'd send you a copy of Tom's statement. Bit busy now but I'll just type out the relevant bit on here in case it helps someone else.Sara xOn 18/08/2010 11:31, michelle lacey wrote:

Hi Isobel I am now wondering if you take your child out of school to full time home school them, do you get the money instead of the school for their education, this would obviously helf me fund more tutor hours, as on my own i can only afford approx 12 hours per week tutoring and 10 visits of 3 hours for supervisor who will oversee program. x

Autism Treatment From: isobelwizza@...Date: Wed, 18 Aug 2010 10:15:49 +0000Subject: Re: OT- part time home schooling

hi michelle we o apart time aba home program which has got longer and longer i tell them my son is out of school for therp[aies ie osteopath homeopath this is true but the rest of the day we do aba, I havnt informed them off aba as have not gone to tribunal yet, but if we loose will still continue to carry on as we are, my son learned nothing at school for three years except to jump on a trampoline and use touch screen computers for priortywoods programs,, but with sonrise first and then aba we have had huge success found out he knew all sorts of things we awere not aware of...Isobel> >> > Hi> >> > Just wondered if anyone is part time home schooling their child, we > > are currently having full time ABA (paid for by LEA)at school but > > they are starting to faze it out, to completely faze out by April. I > > was just wondering if i could take him out of school for some of the > > ; time and pay an ABA tutor myself to do ABA with him at home as well > > as me teaching him ABA. I am just wondering if LEA/school would get > > funny about us taking a full time place but only using it pat of the > > time.> >> > x> >> >> >> >>

August 18, 2010

Thanks Sara, did you have a battle with the LEA when you said you wanted to home school? Also how much do the government give for a special needs childs education?

x

Autism Treatment From: Moroza-@...Date: Wed, 18 Aug 2010 12:05:08 +0100Subject: Re: Re: OT- part time home schooling

That's what they do here in Swansea, however I get the impression it's unusual, which has just reminded me, Isobel that I said I'd send you a copy of Tom's statement. Bit busy now but I'll just type out the relevant bit on here in case it helps someone else.Sara xOn 18/08/2010 11:31, michelle lacey wrote:

Hi Isobel I am now wondering if you take your child out of school to full time home school them, do you get the money instead of the school for their education, this would obviously helf me fund more tutor hours, as on my own i can only afford approx 12 hours per week tutoring and 10 visits of 3 hours for supervisor who will oversee program. x

Autism Treatment From: isobelwizza@...Date: Wed, 18 Aug 2010 10:15:49 +0000Subject: Re: OT- part time home schooling

hi michelle we o apart time aba home program which has got longer and longer i tell them my son is out of school for therp[aies ie osteopath homeopath this is true but the rest of the day we do aba, I havnt informed them off aba as have not gone to tribunal yet, but if we loose will still continue to carry on as we are, my son learned nothing at school for three years except to jump on a trampoline and use touch screen computers for priortywoods programs,, but with sonrise first and then aba we have had huge success found out he knew all sorts of things we awere not aware of...Isobel> >> > Hi> >> > Just wondered if anyone is part time home schooling their child, we > > are currently having full time ABA (paid for by LEA)at school but > > they are starting to faze it out, to completely faze out by April. I > > was just wondering if i could take him out of school for some of the > > ; time and pay an ABA tutor myself to do ABA with him at home as well > > as me teaching him ABA. I am just wondering if LEA/school would get > > funny about us taking a full time place but only using it pat of the > > time.> >> > x> >> >> >> >>

August 18, 2010

He is at a special needs school. So if i say i want to homeschool him i get it and if i want ABA i don't - my Godness what are these people like - they put every type of obstical in the way of trying to make our children independant adults one day - blithering idiots! So anyone know how much education will fund for "homeschooling"?

xx

Autism Treatment From: Mum231ASD@...Date: Wed, 18 Aug 2010 07:21:17 -0400Subject: Re: Re: OT- part time home schooling

>>I doubt very much if you'll get anywhere near the deal Sara has in Swansea with Hampshire, they'll come up with something like we only pay for ABA for preschoolers.

Is the school he goes to special? If so then HS is cheaper and you might be able to swing it, if he in manistream then you are likely to have about as much chance as getting 25 hours per week DP.

Mandi x

In a message dated 18/08/2010 12:19:03 GMT Daylight Time, michelle0471@... writes:

Thanks Sara, did you have a battle with the LEA when you said you wanted to home school? Also how much do the government give for a special needs childs education?

August 18, 2010

He is at a special needs school. So if i say i want to homeschool him i get it and if i want ABA i don't - my Godness what are these people like - they put every type of obstical in the way of trying to make our children independant adults one day - blithering idiots! So anyone know how much education will fund for "homeschooling"?

xx

Autism Treatment From: Mum231ASD@...Date: Wed, 18 Aug 2010 07:21:17 -0400Subject: Re: Re: OT- part time home schooling

>>I doubt very much if you'll get anywhere near the deal Sara has in Swansea with Hampshire, they'll come up with something like we only pay for ABA for preschoolers.

Is the school he goes to special? If so then HS is cheaper and you might be able to swing it, if he in manistream then you are likely to have about as much chance as getting 25 hours per week DP.

Mandi x

In a message dated 18/08/2010 12:19:03 GMT Daylight Time, michelle0471@... writes:

Thanks Sara, did you have a battle with the LEA when you said you wanted to home school? Also how much do the government give for a special needs childs education?

August 18, 2010

Just thinking out loud (sorry sleep deprived) they have funded ABA in school for the reception year and we have it ongoing in school until April, although i wouldn't call it ABA as she is only allowed to have approx 5 hours a week one to one of pure ABA, the rest of the time it is plan and simple shadowing!

x

Autism Treatment From: Mum231ASD@...Date: Wed, 18 Aug 2010 07:21:17 -0400Subject: Re: Re: OT- part time home schooling

>>I doubt very much if you'll get anywhere near the deal Sara has in Swansea with Hampshire, they'll come up with something like we only pay for ABA for preschoolers.

Is the school he goes to special? If so then HS is cheaper and you might be able to swing it, if he in manistream then you are likely to have about as much chance as getting 25 hours per week DP.

Mandi x

In a message dated 18/08/2010 12:19:03 GMT Daylight Time, michelle0471@... writes:

Thanks Sara, did you have a battle with the LEA when you said you wanted to home school? Also how much do the government give for a special needs childs education?

August 18, 2010

Just thinking out loud (sorry sleep deprived) they have funded ABA in school for the reception year and we have it ongoing in school until April, although i wouldn't call it ABA as she is only allowed to have approx 5 hours a week one to one of pure ABA, the rest of the time it is plan and simple shadowing!

x

Autism Treatment From: Mum231ASD@...Date: Wed, 18 Aug 2010 07:21:17 -0400Subject: Re: Re: OT- part time home schooling

>>I doubt very much if you'll get anywhere near the deal Sara has in Swansea with Hampshire, they'll come up with something like we only pay for ABA for preschoolers.

Is the school he goes to special? If so then HS is cheaper and you might be able to swing it, if he in manistream then you are likely to have about as much chance as getting 25 hours per week DP.

Mandi x

In a message dated 18/08/2010 12:19:03 GMT Daylight Time, michelle0471@... writes:

Thanks Sara, did you have a battle with the LEA when you said you wanted to home school? Also how much do the government give for a special needs childs education?

August 18, 2010

No, no battle. I moved here from Plymouth where they were EVIL and

fought tooth and nail not to help you. when I got here and told them

I was home-schooling they asked me if I wanted the money!

They were already doing that with several families. They don't pay

for home programmes, they release the funds (which are less than the

cost of a full-time home programme usually) and you have to be

careful (as an LEA that is) how you word that on the statement or

you'll end up being liable for the entire programme.

Will type out that bit of Tom's statement later so people can show

their LEA's, no time now.

Sara x

On 18/08/2010 12:21, Mum231ASD@... wrote:

>>I doubt very much if you'll get anywhere

near the deal Sara has in Swansea with Hampshire,

they'll come up with something like we only pay for

ABA for preschoolers.

Is the school he goes to special? If so then HS is

cheaper and you might be able to swing it, if he in

manistream then you are likely to have about as much

chance as getting 25 hours per week DP.

Mandi x

In a message dated 18/08/2010 12:19:03 GMT

Daylight Time, michelle0471@... writes:

Thanks

Sara, did you have a battle with the LEA when you

said you wanted to home school? Also how much do

the government give for a special needs childs

education?

August 18, 2010

The funding is banded, so they have to assess the kid and say what

band they are and then release the equivalent funds (they refund

receipts up to the equivalent amount - they don't hand us the

money). The lowest band - or highest funding is £18,000 and

something.

Sara x

On 18/08/2010 12:18, michelle lacey wrote:

Thanks Sara, did you have a battle with the LEA when you

said you wanted to home school? Also how much do the

government give for a special needs childs education?

x

Autism Treatment

From: Moroza-@...

Date: Wed, 18 Aug 2010 12:05:08 +0100

Subject: Re: Re: OT- part time

home schooling

That's what they do here in Swansea, however I get the

impression it's unusual, which has just reminded me,

Isobel that I said I'd send you a copy of Tom's

statement. Bit busy now but I'll just type out the

relevant bit on here in case it helps someone else.

Sara x

On 18/08/2010 11:31, michelle lacey wrote:

Hi Isobel

I am now wondering if you take your child out of

school to full time home school them, do you get

the money instead of the school for their

education, this would obviously helf me fund

more tutor hours, as on my own i can only afford

approx 12 hours per week tutoring and 10 visits

of 3 hours for supervisor who will oversee

program.

x

Autism Treatment

From: isobelwizza@...

Date: Wed, 18 Aug 2010 10:15:49 +0000

Subject: Re: OT- part

time home schooling

hi michelle we o apart time aba home program

which has got longer and longer i tell them

my son is out of school for therp[aies ie

osteopath homeopath this is true but the

rest of the day we do aba, I havnt informed

them off aba as have not gone to tribunal

yet, but if we loose will still continue to

carry on as we are, my son learned nothing

at school for three years except to jump on

a trampoline and use touch screen computers

for priortywoods programs,, but with sonrise

first and then aba we have had huge success

found out he knew all sorts of things we

awere not aware of...Isobel

> >

> > Hi

> >

> > Just wondered if anyone is part

time home schooling their child, we

> > are currently having full time ABA

(paid for by LEA)at school but

> > they are starting to faze it out,

to completely faze out by April. I

> > was just wondering if i could take

him out of school for some of the

> > ; time and pay an ABA tutor myself

to do ABA with him at home as well

> > as me teaching him ABA. I am just

wondering if LEA/school would get

> > funny about us taking a full time

place but only using it pat of the

> > time.

> >

> > x

> >

>

August 18, 2010

Thanks Sara, is there anywhere i can find info regarding the band rates, just wondering if that info might be on internet somewhere? So do you have to invoice them for tutors/supervisors/rescources each month? They must give you guidence on the amount you can spend etc..

x

Autism Treatment From: Moroza-@...Date: Wed, 18 Aug 2010 13:14:56 +0100Subject: Re: Re: OT- part time home schooling

The funding is banded, so they have to assess the kid and say what band they are and then release the equivalent funds (they refund receipts up to the equivalent amount - they don't hand us the money). The lowest band - or highest funding is £18,000 and something.Sara xOn 18/08/2010 12:18, michelle lacey wrote:

Thanks Sara, did you have a battle with the LEA when you said you wanted to home school? Also how much do the government give for a special needs childs education? x

Autism Treatment From: Moroza-@...Date: Wed, 18 Aug 2010 12:05:08 +0100Subject: Re: Re: OT- part time home schooling

That's what they do here in Swansea, however I get the impression it's unusual, which has just reminded me, Isobel that I said I'd send you a copy of Tom's statement. Bit busy now but I'll just type out the relevant bit on here in case it helps someone else.Sara xOn 18/08/2010 11:31, michelle lacey wrote:

Hi Isobel I am now wondering if you take your child out of school to full time home school them, do you get the money instead of the school for their education, this would obviously helf me fund more tutor hours, as on my own i can only afford approx 12 hours per week tutoring and 10 visits of 3 hours for supervisor who will oversee program. x

Autism Treatment From: isobelwizza@...Date: Wed, 18 Aug 2010 10:15:49 +0000Subject: Re: OT- part time home schooling

hi michelle we o apart time aba home program which has got longer and longer i tell them my son is out of school for therp[aies ie osteopath homeopath this is true but the rest of the day we do aba, I havnt informed them off aba as have not gone to tribunal yet, but if we loose will still continue to carry on as we are, my son learned nothing at school for three years except to jump on a trampoline and use touch screen computers for priortywoods programs,, but with sonrise first and then aba we have had huge success found out he knew all sorts of things we awere not aware of...Isobel> >> > Hi> >> > Just wondered if anyone is part time home schooling their child, we > > are currently having full time ABA (paid for by LEA)at school but > > they are starting to faze it out, to completely faze out by April. I > > was just wondering if i could take him out of school for some of the > > ; time and pay an ABA tutor myself to do ABA with him at home as well > > as me teaching him ABA. I am just wondering if LEA/school would get > > funny about us taking a full time place but only using it pat of the > > time.> >> > x> >> >> >> >>

August 18, 2010

don't know, sorry. Someone else might know.

Also, I can't find Tom's statement, can only find amended bits and

annual review notes. Maybe another Swansea mum can post the relevant

bit. Sorry,

Sara x

On 18/08/2010 13:23, michelle lacey wrote:

Thanks Sara, is there anywhere i can find info regarding

the band rates, just wondering if that info might be on

internet somewhere? So do you have to invoice them for

tutors/supervisors/rescources each month? They must give

you guidence on the amount you can spend etc..

x

Autism Treatment

From: Moroza-@...

Date: Wed, 18 Aug 2010 13:14:56 +0100

Subject: Re: Re: OT- part time

home schooling

The funding is banded, so they have to assess the kid

and say what band they are and then release the

equivalent funds (they refund receipts up to the

equivalent amount - they don't hand us the money). The

lowest band - or highest funding is £18,000 and

something.

Sara x

On 18/08/2010 12:18, michelle lacey wrote:

Thanks Sara, did you have a battle with the LEA

when you said you wanted to home school? Also

how much do the government give for a special

needs childs education?

x

Autism Treatment

From: Moroza-@...

Date: Wed, 18 Aug 2010 12:05:08 +0100

Subject: Re: Re: OT-

part time home schooling

That's what they do

here in Swansea, however I get the

impression it's unusual, which has just

reminded me, Isobel that I said I'd send you

a copy of Tom's statement. Bit busy now but

I'll just type out the relevant bit on here

in case it helps someone else.

Sara x

On 18/08/2010 11:31, michelle lacey wrote:

Hi Isobel

I am now wondering if you take your

child out of school to full time home

school them, do you get the

money instead of the school for their

education, this would obviously helf me

fund more tutor hours, as on my own i

can only afford approx 12 hours per week

tutoring and 10 visits of 3 hours for

supervisor who will oversee program.

x

Autism Treatment

From: isobelwizza@...

Date: Wed, 18 Aug 2010 10:15:49 +0000

Subject: Re:

OT- part time home schooling

hi michelle we o apart time aba

home program which has got longer

and longer i tell them my son is

out of school for therp[aies ie

osteopath homeopath this is true

but the rest of the day we do aba,

I havnt informed them off aba as

have not gone to tribunal yet, but

if we loose will still continue to

carry on as we are, my son learned

nothing at school for three years

except to jump on a trampoline and

use touch screen computers for

priortywoods programs,, but with

sonrise first and then aba we have

had huge success found out he knew

all sorts of things we awere not

aware of...Isobel

> >

> > Hi

> >

> > Just wondered if anyone

is part time home schooling their

child, we

> > are currently having

full time ABA (paid for by LEA)at

school but

> > they are starting to

faze it out, to completely faze

out by April. I

> > was just wondering if i

could take him out of school for

some of the

> > ; time and pay an ABA

tutor myself to do ABA with him at

home as well

> > as me teaching him ABA.

I am just wondering if LEA/school

would get

> > funny about us taking a

full time place but only using it

pat of the

> > time.

> >

> > x

> >

>

August 18, 2010

Gosh this is a mine field! Does anyone know how things stand for appealing the review, can i state now that i want to home Ed my son, our review was back in May but i still haven't had anything formal in writting to confirm what they said.

Any help would be much appreciated.

xx

Autism Treatment From: Mum231ASD@...Date: Wed, 18 Aug 2010 08:51:23 -0400Subject: Re: Re: OT- part time home schooling

I think that's a Wales thing , its not national, most home edders get nothing at all. Poole will fund Son Rose for £11K per year coz its chepaer than special school but they'll go to tribunal to stop ABA funding. Is there a local support group you can ask?

The Home ed list is brill and they know all sorts of ways to try

Mandi x

In a message dated 18/08/2010 13:24:07 GMT Daylight Time, michelle0471@... writes:

Thanks Sara, is there anywhere i can find info regarding the band rates, just wondering if that info might be on internet somewhere?

August 18, 2010

Hiya

I have done ABA with my son since he was 4 years old for approx 20 hours a week.

He only did 2 x 1 hour sessions a week at a mainstream nursery.

When he started school, aged 5, he went to a Special School and spent the first

year only 9 to 12pm. Now he does 9 to 1.15pm. We have been doing ABA/VB (now

just starting RDI)for 2 hours in the afternoons. School were not happy about it

probably as I was the first parent to do it in my area. They have been ok since

it has been legally arranged as Flexi-Schooling.

Email me off list if you like.

Alison x

> >

> > Hi

> >

> > Just wondered if anyone is part time home schooling their child, we

> > are currently having full time ABA (paid for by LEA)at school but

> > they are starting to faze it out, to completely faze out by April. I

> > was just wondering if i could take him out of school for some of the

> > time and pay an ABA tutor myself to do ABA with him at home as well

> > as me teaching him ABA. I am just wondering if LEA/school would get

> > funny about us taking a full time place but only using it pat of the

> > time.

> >

> > x

> >

>

August 18, 2010

Hiya

I have done ABA with my son since he was 4 years old for approx 20 hours a week.

He only did 2 x 1 hour sessions a week at a mainstream nursery.

When he started school, aged 5, he went to a Special School and spent the first

year only 9 to 12pm. Now he does 9 to 1.15pm. We have been doing ABA/VB (now

just starting RDI)for 2 hours in the afternoons. School were not happy about it

probably as I was the first parent to do it in my area. They have been ok since

it has been legally arranged as Flexi-Schooling.

Email me off list if you like.

Alison x

> >

> > Hi

> >

> > Just wondered if anyone is part time home schooling their child, we

> > are currently having full time ABA (paid for by LEA)at school but

> > they are starting to faze it out, to completely faze out by April. I

> > was just wondering if i could take him out of school for some of the

> > time and pay an ABA tutor myself to do ABA with him at home as well

> > as me teaching him ABA. I am just wondering if LEA/school would get

> > funny about us taking a full time place but only using it pat of the

> > time.

> >

> > x

> >

>

August 18, 2010

LEA's seem to make up their own policies .As Sara experienced her previous

LEA to be evil ! and her present LEA to be a totally different kettle of fish.

In my area ( Essex) we get nothing........

>

> He is at a special needs school. So if i say i want to homeschool him i get it

and if i want ABA i don't - my Godness what are these people like - they put

every type of obstical in the way of trying to make our children independant

adults one day - blithering idiots! So anyone know how much education will fund

for " homeschooling " ?

>

August 18, 2010

LEA's seem to make up their own policies .As Sara experienced her previous

LEA to be evil ! and her present LEA to be a totally different kettle of fish.

In my area ( Essex) we get nothing........

>

> He is at a special needs school. So if i say i want to homeschool him i get it

and if i want ABA i don't - my Godness what are these people like - they put

every type of obstical in the way of trying to make our children independant

adults one day - blithering idiots! So anyone know how much education will fund

for " homeschooling " ?

>

August 18, 2010

hi michelle I get NO help for funding the aba and this is a catastrophe! my

council wont pay for anything they are the meanest borough in the country but

we have the lowest council tax! they will only give funding pt or ft with a

fight the younger the better i.e. aged 2,5 or 3 yrs

I was bulldozed into this school 3 years ago and now the head of childrens

service gets my ear ache all the time ,,,most councils are more helpful than

mine! We will see what happens, its quite cheap to get student volunteers from

universities who have music art or psychology degrees ..by law the council

only offer one hour of tutoring for free per week,so to take yr child out of

school full time comes down to you financially, but you have a duty of care to

prove you are giving a resonable education... to the education dept.etc., its

not easy for any of us!!some councils are much easier ours is not! hope this

gives insite!!Isobel

> > >

> > > Hi

> > >

> > > Just wondered if anyone is part time home schooling their child, we

> > > are currently having full time ABA (paid for by LEA)at school but

> > > they are starting to faze it out, to completely faze out by April. I

> > > was just wondering if i could take him out of school for some of the

> > > time and pay an ABA tutor myself to do ABA with him at home as well

> > > as me teaching him ABA. I am just wondering if LEA/school would get

> > > funny about us taking a full time place but only using it pat of the

> > > time.

> > >

> > > x

> > >

> >

>

August 18, 2010