WHO on pertussis vaccine dangers, was: for Vera (and others), Bethanacol

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Thanks guys, it does fit in with what I have been reading about (apart from the measles effect, that was also news to me)

To answer that question, yes, pertussis toxin is present in the 'live'

version, ie getting it through real illness could be a problem, but it

looks likely there are often toxin residues in vaccines

huh, guess what, now WHO admits that there might be a problem with this

vaccine !!!! of course they do not mention the A word, nothing specific

that might create problems for manufacturers God forbid , but they ARE

saying something is fishy... the following quote is from an official

recent WHO publication (guidelines for Pertussis vaccine

manufacturers), publicly available through their website:

......

The role of different toxins, such as pertussis toxin in the immunity

to the natural infection or in immunization is not fully understood. A

potential link between the presence of some of these toxins and

reactogenicity in humans has been reported but the mechanisms of their

action and the contribution of individual toxins in overall toxicity

remains unclear. Nevertheless, the determination of residual toxic

activity remains an important aspect in the safety assessment.

Residual levels of active pertussis toxin and endotoxin are is likely

to be a major contributor to the reactogenicity of whole cell pertussis

vaccines in humans and limits have been established for active PT

in acellular pertussis vaccines .. The First International

Standard for pertussis toxin has been established and various methods

for the determination residual levels of PT in vaccine preparations

have been developed.

.....

this publication is from 2005, what about vaccines

produced before this standard was in existence??!!! would this be

something that could potentially be used for claiming damages I

wonder???

Natasa

>> I thought Megson also said that the measles could also cause the G-Alpha> protein break as well as pertussis. My son started to regress with the MMR> but didn't lose his skills until 18 month shots like include DTP.> > > > _____ > > From: mb12 valtrex [mailto:mb12 valtrex ] On> Behalf Of tophat123> Sent: Sunday, August 20, 2006 12:16 PM> mb12 valtrex > Subject: Re: Re: for Vera (and others), question re:> Bethanacol treatment> > > > I wonder if there are similar genetic patterns (in the methylation> cycle...Dr. Yasko's testing) in the early DTP/DTaP regressors vs. the> later MMR regressors. I think that would be interesting to find out.> My son regressed very early also.> > > > ---- Original Message ----> From: sircarlito@sbcgloba <mailto:sircarlito%40sbcglobal.net> l.net> mb12 valtrex@ <mailto:mb12 valtrex%40> > Subject: Re: Re: for Vera (and others), question re:> Bethanacol treatment> Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2006 08:54:03 -0700 (PDT)> > >Yes, my son regressed at two months of age after his first DTaP and> >then after each subsequent DTaP. He was definitely more affected by> >the DTaPs then the MMR. In EOH, I believe that Kirby stated that> >they now beleive that 30% of kids were the early DTP/DTaP regresseros> >and that 70% were more affected by the MMR.> > > > And yes, I have long theorized that the kids who had a horrid time> >with the DTPs are more likely to be responders to Bethanechol. That> >is not to say my son does not have viral issues. His HHVI tither> >(reference range <1:10) was 1:1400 and the EBV was 1:800 I believe. > >I am not sure of the HBV, I would have to go back and check.> > > > Measles was high but not off the charts. Our DAN did some> >additional measles lab work, and said that he probably did not have> >the measles virus in his gut. I can not remember the test and we did> >not have in scoped. He used to suffer from chronic inflammation of> >the lower gut and chronic constipation, but that greatly improved> >with HBOT which we will go back to at some point. The only reason we> >stopped HBOT was because we could not continue to spend $600 per week> >indefinitely.> > > > Vera> >> > > > Messages> <mb12 valtrex/message/9719;_ylc=X3oDMTM1dGZmc2k> zBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzE2NDk5NTI4BGdycHNwSWQDMTYwMDA2MTYxNgRtc2dJZAM5NzI> zBHNlYwNmdHIEc2xrA3Z0cGMEc3RpbWUDMTE1NjA5MDU0MAR0cGNJZAM5NzE5> in this> topic (4)> <mb12 valtrex/post;_ylc=X3oDMTJxYXN0YzdrBF9TAzk> 3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzE2NDk5NTI4BGdycHNwSWQDMTYwMDA2MTYxNgRtc2dJZAM5NzIzBHNlYwN> mdHIEc2xrA3JwbHkEc3RpbWUDMTE1NjA5MDU0MA--?act=reply & messageNum=9723> Reply> (via web post) | Start> <mb12 valtrex/post;_ylc=X3oDMTJmcjUwcGtqBF9TAzk> 3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzE2NDk5NTI4BGdycHNwSWQDMTYwMDA2MTYxNgRzZWMDZnRyBHNsawNudHB> jBHN0aW1lAzExNTYwOTA1NDA-> a new topic > > Messages> <mb12 valtrex/messages;_ylc=X3oDMTJmMmVsaWE0BF9> TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzE2NDk5NTI4BGdycHNwSWQDMTYwMDA2MTYxNgRzZWMDZnRyBHNsawN> tc2dzBHN0aW1lAzExNTYwOTA1NDA-> | Files> <mb12 valtrex/files;_ylc=X3oDMTJnNDNlb3NuBF9TAz> k3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzE2NDk5NTI4BGdycHNwSWQDMTYwMDA2MTYxNgRzZWMDZnRyBHNsawNmaW> xlcwRzdGltZQMxMTU2MDkwNTQw> | Photos> <mb12 valtrex/photos;_ylc=X3oDMTJmZGZiazc4BF9TA> zk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzE2NDk5NTI4BGdycHNwSWQDMTYwMDA2MTYxNgRzZWMDZnRyBHNsawNwa> G90BHN0aW1lAzExNTYwOTA1NDA-> | Database> <mb12 valtrex/database;_ylc=X3oDMTJkb2ZpdmRyBF9> TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzE2NDk5NTI4BGdycHNwSWQDMTYwMDA2MTYxNgRzZWMDZnRyBHNsawN> kYgRzdGltZQMxMTU2MDkwNTQw> | Members> <mb12 valtrex/members;_ylc=X3oDMTJmOWtmZjVrBF9T> Azk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzE2NDk5NTI4BGdycHNwSWQDMTYwMDA2MTYxNgRzZWMDZnRyBHNsawNt> YnJzBHN0aW1lAzExNTYwOTA1NDA-> | Calendar> <mb12 valtrex/calendar;_ylc=X3oDMTJlMW1kb2l0BF9> TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzE2NDk5NTI4BGdycHNwSWQDMTYwMDA2MTYxNgRzZWMDZnRyBHNsawN> jYWwEc3RpbWUDMTE1NjA5MDU0MA--> > > > <;_ylc=X3oDMTJlcG1hODVsBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzE2N> Dk5NTI4BGdycHNwSWQDMTYwMDA2MTYxNgRzZWMDZnRyBHNsawNnZnAEc3RpbWUDMTE1NjA5MDU0M> A--> > You are receiving Individual Emails Change> <mb12 valtrex/join;_ylc=X3oDMTJndHZhN2U5BF9TAzk> 3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzE2NDk5NTI4BGdycHNwSWQDMTYwMDA2MTYxNgRzZWMDZnRyBHNsawNzdG5> ncwRzdGltZQMxMTU2MDkwNTQw> Delivery Settings > Visit> <mb12 valtrex;_ylc=X3oDMTJlbzYwaWUxBF9TAzk3MzU5> NzE0BGdycElkAzE2NDk5NTI4BGdycHNwSWQDMTYwMDA2MTYxNgRzZWMDZnRyBHNsawNocGYEc3Rp> bWUDMTE1NjA5MDU0MA--> Your Group | > <> Terms of Use | Unsubscribe> <mailto:mb12 valtrex-unsubscribe ?subject=Unsubscribe> > > Recent Activity> > * 25> > New> <mb12 valtrex/members;_ylc=X3oDMTJnNmRqMzFpBF9T> Azk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzE2NDk5NTI4BGdycHNwSWQDMTYwMDA2MTYxNgRzZWMDdnRsBHNsawN2> bWJycwRzdGltZQMxMTU2MDkwNTQw> Members> > Visit> <mb12 valtrex;_ylc=X3oDMTJmMDIyYjM3BF9TAzk3MzU5> NzE0BGdycElkAzE2NDk5NTI4BGdycHNwSWQDMTYwMDA2MTYxNgRzZWMDdnRsBHNsawN2Z2hwBHN0> aW1lAzExNTYwOTA1NDA-> Your Group > >