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I have two boys with Shwachman-Diamond Syndrome and part of SDS is failure

to thrive (until they start enzymes) you can meet my family at:

www.shwachman.50megs.com <http://www.shwachman.50megs.com/>

I agree with April R-the weight issues do sound like SDS and SDS kids have

recurrent infections like CVID kids, but they usually stem from neutropenia

and neutrophil chemotaxis issues. My boys also have had low IgG and

IgM...my oldest SDSer seems to have resolved with the IgG issues for now-at

least what we checked.

My youngest is still on SCIG---- he's the one who has been hospitalized more

often with infections (cellulitis, etc) --he is doing better though, this

winter we only had one pneumonia.

~Peace be with you~

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" Faith is to believe what you do not see. The reward of that faith is to

see what you believe. " Saint Augustine

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Thanks for the welcome from everyone.... We go back to the PED

immunologist at UNC in 2weeks and they took 12vials of blood so I am

assuming that they are checking lots of stuff. The first labs were

done when he was in surgery for 2nd set of tubes. We are having a

rough day/night... Lance has a high fever and he always becomes

orally aversive when he is sick so it is going to be a battle to get

the Keflex in him...His left lymph node is swollen again and red

however it is not as bad as in Feb when he had surgery to clean out

the staph.. My husband is not very supportive right now because he

does not see past the current infection. The more I read the more

this all makes sense and I am so mad for not knowing about this

sooner. Lance has had everything odd compared to my oldest who only

has asthma. Lance hardly eats to begin with and he is always saying

he hurts in his bones and head and belly. I feel like a horrible

parent for waiting this long to get pushy. So how long is the

diagnostic process? Also what age do treatments start and wanted to

share that Lance's IGg was 380 and wondering how that sounds to

everyone?

Forgive me for my newness

April

> >

> > Hello everyone I am hoping to soak in as much info as possible

from

> > your group! My son just turned 4yrs old and he is the most

sickly

> > little fella! He catches everything and he has GI issues

(weighing in

> > at a whopping 30 lbs) chronic ear infections recurring staph in

his

> > lymph node and teeny tonsils(as the Dr pointed out Wed) His IGg

> levels

> > are very low and he had labs to test the sub levels on Wed... So

does

> > this sound like any of your kiddos. If so please tell me as much

as

> > possible and what measures do you take to help your children with

> their

> > immunity?

> > Thanks

> > April

> >

>

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Sounds like you should have some more answers soon. The immunologist should be

able to give you some strong preliminary answers. They will probably do a

vaccine for Pneumovax with before and after titers to see how he builds

antibodies.  They need to do all of the testing before they start Gammaglobulin.

The antibody testing takes about 6 wks. Our initial one they only waited 3

wks but now I have seen most doctors are waiting the 6 to see if they hold onto

the antibodies. My sons IgG was usually around 400 also not really low but not

very protective either. There are a number of other tests. If you do not have

info from IDF then make sure you call and order things in the AM so that you can

get a very comprehensive information and get the big picture put together in

your mind.  It is very helpful to share with family and friends as well. Feel

free to ask all the questions you need. This is a great group. I have been on

here since

my son was 3 and we were finally put on Gammaglobulin. He was sick from birth

on. Initial diagnosis was at 16mo. but we did not treat except with massive

antibiotics. He was ALWAYS sick except for 10 days in July. It was awful. His

quality of life has Greatly improved. He gets Sub Q gammaglobulin by me here at

home weekly. It has made all the difference in the world.

 BARBIE 

Re: My son

Thanks for the welcome from everyone.... We go back to the PED

immunologist at UNC in 2weeks and they took 12vials of blood so I am

assuming that they are checking lots of stuff. The first labs were

done when he was in surgery for 2nd set of tubes. We are having a

rough day/night... Lance has a high fever and he always becomes

orally aversive when he is sick so it is going to be a battle to get

the Keflex in him...His left lymph node is swollen again and red

however it is not as bad as in Feb when he had surgery to clean out

the staph.. My husband is not very supportive right now because he

does not see past the current infection. The more I read the more

this all makes sense and I am so mad for not knowing about this

sooner. Lance has had everything odd compared to my oldest who only

has asthma. Lance hardly eats to begin with and he is always saying

he hurts in his bones and head and belly. I feel like a horrible

parent for waiting this long to get pushy. So how long is the

diagnostic process? Also what age do treatments start and wanted to

share that Lance's IGg was 380 and wondering how that sounds to

everyone?

Forgive me for my newness

April

> >

> > Hello everyone I am hoping to soak in as much info as possible

from

> > your group! My son just turned 4yrs old and he is the most

sickly

> > little fella! He catches everything and he has GI issues

(weighing in

> > at a whopping 30 lbs) chronic ear infections recurring staph in

his

> > lymph node and teeny tonsils(as the Dr pointed out Wed) His IGg

> levels

> > are very low and he had labs to test the sub levels on Wed... So

does

> > this sound like any of your kiddos. If so please tell me as much

as

> > possible and what measures do you take to help your children with

> their

> > immunity?

> > Thanks

> > April

> >

>

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Oh yeah my son is 12 now so we have been doing this for a little while.

 BARBIE 

Re: My son

Thanks for the welcome from everyone.... We go back to the PED

immunologist at UNC in 2weeks and they took 12vials of blood so I am

assuming that they are checking lots of stuff. The first labs were

done when he was in surgery for 2nd set of tubes. We are having a

rough day/night... Lance has a high fever and he always becomes

orally aversive when he is sick so it is going to be a battle to get

the Keflex in him...His left lymph node is swollen again and red

however it is not as bad as in Feb when he had surgery to clean out

the staph.. My husband is not very supportive right now because he

does not see past the current infection. The more I read the more

this all makes sense and I am so mad for not knowing about this

sooner. Lance has had everything odd compared to my oldest who only

has asthma. Lance hardly eats to begin with and he is always saying

he hurts in his bones and head and belly. I feel like a horrible

parent for waiting this long to get pushy. So how long is the

diagnostic process? Also what age do treatments start and wanted to

share that Lance's IGg was 380 and wondering how that sounds to

everyone?

Forgive me for my newness

April

> >

> > Hello everyone I am hoping to soak in as much info as possible

from

> > your group! My son just turned 4yrs old and he is the most

sickly

> > little fella! He catches everything and he has GI issues

(weighing in

> > at a whopping 30 lbs) chronic ear infections recurring staph in

his

> > lymph node and teeny tonsils(as the Dr pointed out Wed) His IGg

> levels

> > are very low and he had labs to test the sub levels on Wed... So

does

> > this sound like any of your kiddos. If so please tell me as much

as

> > possible and what measures do you take to help your children with

> their

> > immunity?

> > Thanks

> > April

> >

>

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Oh yeah my son is 12 now so we have been doing this for a little while.

 BARBIE 

Re: My son

Thanks for the welcome from everyone.... We go back to the PED

immunologist at UNC in 2weeks and they took 12vials of blood so I am

assuming that they are checking lots of stuff. The first labs were

done when he was in surgery for 2nd set of tubes. We are having a

rough day/night... Lance has a high fever and he always becomes

orally aversive when he is sick so it is going to be a battle to get

the Keflex in him...His left lymph node is swollen again and red

however it is not as bad as in Feb when he had surgery to clean out

the staph.. My husband is not very supportive right now because he

does not see past the current infection. The more I read the more

this all makes sense and I am so mad for not knowing about this

sooner. Lance has had everything odd compared to my oldest who only

has asthma. Lance hardly eats to begin with and he is always saying

he hurts in his bones and head and belly. I feel like a horrible

parent for waiting this long to get pushy. So how long is the

diagnostic process? Also what age do treatments start and wanted to

share that Lance's IGg was 380 and wondering how that sounds to

everyone?

Forgive me for my newness

April

> >

> > Hello everyone I am hoping to soak in as much info as possible

from

> > your group! My son just turned 4yrs old and he is the most

sickly

> > little fella! He catches everything and he has GI issues

(weighing in

> > at a whopping 30 lbs) chronic ear infections recurring staph in

his

> > lymph node and teeny tonsils(as the Dr pointed out Wed) His IGg

> levels

> > are very low and he had labs to test the sub levels on Wed... So

does

> > this sound like any of your kiddos. If so please tell me as much

as

> > possible and what measures do you take to help your children with

> their

> > immunity?

> > Thanks

> > April

> >

>

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April,

first of all, don't feel like a bad parent. Remember, PID is a RARE

disease, how would you think of it? Who do you know who has ever

heard of it? Don't beat yourself up. Your ped saw the red flags,

and be glad that you're on the right track now. The diagnostic

process can take a while, because they have to test vaccine titers.

They check to see how he responded to DTAP, HIB, etc. If he didn't

make a vaccine response to his shots, and his counts are low, then

they will likely start him on IVIG. They also might want to check

and make sure he's not losing cells somewhere else, like excreting it

in his urine or BM.

The treatment for PID is IVIG. They will start that as soon as the

diagnosis is confirmed. They start it any age, Mark went on at 3

months. The large amount of blood drawn sounds like they are doing

very thorough testing, probably his entire B & T cell studies, which

tell them if they are low in number, how they work, etc. I'm

guessing they drew titers then, too.

380 is low for IGG. Normal is usually over 600, they don't like it

to dip below 500. IVIG boosts IGG levels, and they try to do the

dose so it stays about 600. If he goes on IVIG, they will check his

dose every few months to make sure his levels stay up. Once he's on

IVIG, he will do much better as far as infections go. It can take a

couple infusions before you really see an improvement in infection

rate. The first couple doses he may feel tired, achy, etc since the

antibodies are going to go in there and attack his infections he has

going on now.

As for your husband, it's tough. My experience is that men have

a " fix it " type of thinking, and PID is not a fix-it disease. It's

something that you have to learn to cope with since it's not going to

go away. He, and you, will need time to deal with it. We have been

working on dealing with Mark's disease for 6 years, and we still

don't have it down. Sometimes are good, sometimes hard. You're in

the initial stage, it's incredibly stressful. Don't be too hard on

yourself, or him. This is your precious child, and you would do

anything to protect him from this.

Again, I would strongly urge you to contact IDF for information on

PID and the books they have for children. www.primaryimmune.org.

You can order them right from the website. They have a great amount

of resources.

Intermittent bone, belly pain is pretty common. Make a list of all

your questions for your immuno and take it with you. Again, please

don't stress yourself out by figuring out his entire future before

you meet with immuno and see what they are thinking. :)

Keep us posted.

, mom to Mark, 6, CVID

> > >

> > > Hello everyone I am hoping to soak in as much info as possible

> from

> > > your group! My son just turned 4yrs old and he is the most

> sickly

> > > little fella! He catches everything and he has GI issues

> (weighing in

> > > at a whopping 30 lbs) chronic ear infections recurring staph in

> his

> > > lymph node and teeny tonsils(as the Dr pointed out Wed) His IGg

> > levels

> > > are very low and he had labs to test the sub levels on Wed...

So

> does

> > > this sound like any of your kiddos. If so please tell me as

much

> as

> > > possible and what measures do you take to help your children

with

> > their

> > > immunity?

> > > Thanks

> > > April

> > >

> >

>

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Hi,

My son was bullied out of high school he is 17 years old. He has always tested off the charts with the schools IQ testing. Since he was a young boy I have always had problems with violent outbursts. In grade school he was put into a class for emotionally disturbed children. A teacher in that class asked me to get him tested for Aspergers. I only took him to see counselors who all said he did not have it.

Earlier this week he came to me and said he wanted to go to the hospital because he was so depressed about school that he felt he may hurt himself. I took him and he was admitted into the psych ward. After a physician met with him and did some testing for about three hours, he called me and asked if I had ever heard of Aspergers Syndrome, I just broke down and cried out of relief. My son is now diagnosed with this. I would like to receive any information that would help me help him. The hospital will be referring us to a person who specializes in this. I just feel horrible for all the torment that my son has been through not only from his peers but from us expecting things from him that he could not do. For 17 years my son has felt alone and that no one cared for him. Any information would be helpful.

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Braasch

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It'll all be okay , Don't blame yourself as people don't know what they don't know until you make the right connections. It can be very frustrating and heartbreaking. All will be well as you're on the right track now. Blessings, RhodaFrom: Braasch <izzme1967@...>Autism and Aspergers Treatment Sent: Friday, April 29, 2011 9:39 AMSubject: Re:

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Hi,

My son was bullied out of high school he is 17 years old. He has always tested off the charts with the schools IQ testing. Since he was a young boy I have always had problems with violent outbursts. In grade school he was put into a class for emotionally disturbed children. A teacher in that class asked me to get him tested for Aspergers. I only took him to see counselors who all said he did not have it.

Earlier this week he came to me and said he wanted to go to the hospital because he was so depressed about school that he felt he may hurt himself. I took him and he was admitted into the psych ward. After a physician met with him and did some testing for about three hours, he called me and asked if I had ever heard of Aspergers Syndrome, I just broke down and cried out of relief. My son is now diagnosed with this. I would like to receive any information that would help me help him. The hospital will be referring us to a person who specializes in this. I just feel horrible for all the torment that my son has been through not only from his peers but from us expecting things from him that he could not do. For 17 years my son has felt alone and that no one cared for him. Any information would be helpful.

Thanks,

Braasch

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I am so sorry for your incredible loss! Take care of yourselves.

On Feb 23, 2012 4:08 PM, " stoogepigeon " <lilibet4@...> wrote:

**

only 10 years old, who was neutropenic and cvid, died 3 weeks ago from an

overwhelming infection. One day he was fine, taking a secondary school

exam, the next day he was on life support. Bad things can happen quickly.

We are devastated.

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I am so sorry for your incredible loss! Take care of yourselves.

On Feb 23, 2012 4:08 PM, " stoogepigeon " <lilibet4@...> wrote:

**

only 10 years old, who was neutropenic and cvid, died 3 weeks ago from an

overwhelming infection. One day he was fine, taking a secondary school

exam, the next day he was on life support. Bad things can happen quickly.

We are devastated.

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I am distraught for you at the loss of your precious son. Please know your

family will be in our prayers.

Dayna Fladhammer

Mom. To Charlie, 11, Kate, 9, Tommy,8, and Grace 5 months.

Older 3 with CVID.

Sent from my iPhone

On Feb 23, 2012, at 4:08 PM, " stoogepigeon " <lilibet4@...> wrote:

> only 10 years old, who was neutropenic and cvid, died 3 weeks ago from an

overwhelming infection. One day he was fine, taking a secondary school exam, the

next day he was on life support. Bad things can happen quickly. We are

devastated.

>

>

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I am distraught for you at the loss of your precious son. Please know your

family will be in our prayers.

Dayna Fladhammer

Mom. To Charlie, 11, Kate, 9, Tommy,8, and Grace 5 months.

Older 3 with CVID.

Sent from my iPhone

On Feb 23, 2012, at 4:08 PM, " stoogepigeon " <lilibet4@...> wrote:

> only 10 years old, who was neutropenic and cvid, died 3 weeks ago from an

overwhelming infection. One day he was fine, taking a secondary school exam, the

next day he was on life support. Bad things can happen quickly. We are

devastated.

>

>

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I am so sorry for your loss. My family and I are praying for your family. I

wish we could do more to help you through this difficult time. May God watch

over you all and help you find strength and peace.

A

Mom to Madi (7), (5 with hypogamma + many other medical issues), Gabby 4

and Gus (2)

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I am so sorry for your loss. My family and I are praying for your family. I

wish we could do more to help you through this difficult time. May God watch

over you all and help you find strength and peace.

A

Mom to Madi (7), (5 with hypogamma + many other medical issues), Gabby 4

and Gus (2)

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So sorry for your loss. Prayers going out to you and your family.

Kim, (15, CVID)

my son

only 10 years old, who was neutropenic and cvid, died 3 weeks ago from an

overwhelming infection. One day he was fine, taking a secondary school exam, the

next day he was on life support. Bad things can happen quickly. We are

devastated.

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So sorry for your loss. Prayers going out to you and your family.

Kim, (15, CVID)

my son

only 10 years old, who was neutropenic and cvid, died 3 weeks ago from an

overwhelming infection. One day he was fine, taking a secondary school exam, the

next day he was on life support. Bad things can happen quickly. We are

devastated.

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